Where would you want to live during a global crisis?

[PsiKik]

Where would you want to live depending on the following
possible disaster scenarios:

a: global economic depression/collapse
b: oil/energy supply crisis
c: severe climate change effects


- what country would be least affected by such an event?
- would have ample food supply ?
- least affected by lack of imports
- would suffer minimal crime, civil unrest or civil war?

Fantasies about living in self sufficiency in a cabin in the woods are not an option.
I have absolutely no idea. I need some.

[Linkage]

A big one maybe like Russia, there would be a lot of potential for growing food and stuff, a lot of places to hide - crime.. ok well I think crime would be on the general up anywhere you went, I think the ones with the tightest regimes like China, North Korea would suffer less unrest, but at the expense of liberties - so I really am not sure myself. I still would go with Russia on a whim.

[PsiKik]

A big one maybe like Russia, there would be a lot of potential for growing food and stuff, a lot of places to hide - crime.. ok well I think crime would be on the general up anywhere you went, I think the ones with the tightest regimes like China, North Korea would suffer less unrest, but at the expense of liberties - so I really am not sure myself. I still would go with Russia on a whim.

Russia - interesting choice.
I would think they would be in a good situation in an oil crisis as they are an independent producer. I would not like to be there in the other scenarios. The Winter would be a killer, literally.

[SensEye]

I'll stay put. Canadians aren't too crazy and global warming should be a boon not a hinderence in my part of the world, of course, global warming is no longer all about warming, now it's just change, so it might get colder.

In any event, by the time most people realize it is a real disaster and not just a bunch of Chicken Little's running around, it will probably be too late to make a major move anyhow.

[PsiKik]

In any event, by the time most people realize it is a real disaster and not just a bunch of Chicken Little's running around, it will probably be too late to make a major move anyhow.

I posted the question because my boss has asked me this twice. He has this big map of the World in his office and we both turn and look at it after he has asked the question.
I point to a region and he gives his reasons why that particular region is not suitable and I then give my reasons for agreement or disagreement.

I want some other feedback.

All this talk of the end of the world reminds me of the Y2K hysteria and how that turned out. I keep saying to myself "this is another Y2K" but then I reply "What if this is really the end?".

Bleh, am getting tired of this shit. I am actually having apocalyptic dreams that would make disaster movies.

[demagogic_schizoid]

somewhere with a good view of the City to watch them periodically flying out of the windows. :p

[Anonymous]

Some place where I speak the language of the natives (or can learn with relative ease) and they're already self-sufficient for the most part. Some places in South America seem like a good choice for this, maybe Colombia or somewhere. Also, there's some places in Northern Australia that look like a decent pick, although I think they may rely on imports to some extent.

Inhabited tropical islands would be nice as well, but probably too difficult to get to.

Alternatively, I could hit the road and just keep moving. In the event of such a huge crisis, stuff is probably going to become unstable, and it would probably be easier to survive via less than legal means.

[outmywindow]

Mars, in my own personal, self-sustaining biosphere.

If that doesn't work, and the global crisis is going to be caused by something big and flashy (say, gigantic nukes, asteroids, catastrophically large coronal mass ejections, etc.), I'd make sure I had a good view of the show, then embrace the results.

[rawr]

The U.S. Wyoming/Montana/Colorado/South Dakota



WOLLLLLLLVERINESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A Schnitzel]

Southern Spain

- they grow their own food
- nice weather
- rural areas aren't affected much by modern events/culture
- decent roads
- can get places by bike
- transport food by animal cart
- not many young people, which translates into low crime rate

[thod]

You need to be part of the majority. There is little point in moving to Africa where you are not part of the group and will be the first to be eliminated.

My own choice would be New Zealand or Tasmania. Tasmania is where the nuclear sub crews were told to head after a nuclear exchange. These places are able to support themselves from their own resources.

What you have is low population density on fertile land. You could grow your own crops with minimal tech such as oxen ploughs, fish the seas, hunt the forests etc. You have to be able to do this without oil or power. These places can still generate power with geothermal and hydro to maintain some supply. Of course replacement parts such as iron would dry up but these could be scavenged to keep going a while. Since they have good climates the need for heating/air con is limited and construction is local wood/stone. Water is plentiful and clean.

The advantage of such isolated islands is that they are very difficult to reach by sail boat. Thus they will not have to defend from hordes coming from abroad. Any that do land will be dealt with by local militia, which is why you must be part of the 'in group', the majority.

[Sloc10]

A)Amsterdam
B)Amsterdam
C)Tripping my balls off in a whore-house in Amsterdam

[Erratic]

Southern Spain

- they grow their own food
- nice weather
- rural areas aren't affected much by modern events/culture
- decent roads
- can get places by bike
- transport food by animal cart
- not many young people, which translates into low crime rate

:mellow: That's just... wow, which century do you think we're in? Southern Spain is seriously fucked up by lack of water problems anyway. Also, all those old people who you see living in the 1900s conditions have family in the cities, which would likely return before you get there.

That said, yeah, my option is "Northwestern Spain", more specifically "home". If something really bad happens in the next decade, that's definitely where I'd go. I grew up in my maternal family house with all the modern commodities, but there are still family members who lived there when the area had basically a subsistence economy. I think that knowledge is vital, because I personally don't know how to preserve foods, and would plant all the wrong crops at the wrong times if left alone. Moving somewhere else would mean learning how the natives managed there. We have enough land and trees, the kitchen still keeps all the old facilities (wooden stove and oven), the stables could be brought back, even the thing to make wine could be easily restored. I'm hoping something could be done for the well too. The bay is half an hour away on foot, so there should be fish around, but we're high enough that the water won't ever get here even if the poles melt. We have less drought issues and most of Spain, too.

Of course, there are still some issues. We'd have to have something to exchange for the things we couldn't make ourselves, and I can't think of much (maybe renting the wine-making thing, as they used to do with the mills). I'm also worried about heating... the stables and the cave are now insulated, so the idea of having animals living behind you and letting the heat come up through the floor won't work anymore (that's how the houses were designed around here). There isn't any place to burn wood inside the house (kitchen and oven are in a different building). I'm not entirely sure the current heating unit could be converted to a wood-based one, and that'd probably require electricity anyway (I'm not entirely sure we'll get any even with the windmills they're installing on the village's property*). And with "village's property" I don't mean the government... it's a really old system where the people who live there own part of the forest collectively, which also regulates stuff like running water and irrigating turns.

[dubbeltop]

Where would you want to live during a global crisis?

Somewhere in the mountains of a unknown scarcely populated country consisting of mainly animals and rugged terrain .....

[Ferrus]

The Azores...

[Madrigal]

Right in the eye of the storm.

[Thor]

Fantasies about living in self sufficiency in a cabin in the woods are not an option.



:cough: Fantasies huh...

http://forums.intpcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5504&d=1194396138

Food is everywhere. There's gold and even a little platinum to be had out there too...

[composer]

The United States. Best of a bad lot.