Discussion on "Esoteric Agenda"

[Zero Angel]

A 2-hour video in the spirit of "Zeitgiest" (a similar conspiracy-related documentary).

View it here: Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139&q=esoteric+agenda&ei=2ENVSIWuI46y-wGvirTlDg)

I thought it was interesting and even went so far as to do some research on topics covered by the film instead of believing or disbelieving in them blindly. Problem is that a lot of things covered in this documentary are based on rumor or speculation only, and some have been discredited. Its still worth a watch though. Feel free to discuss any of the concepts covered in this film here.

[Zero Angel]

The Mayan Calendar / 13-moon calendar
I've been interested in this for awhile. The 13 moon calendar is quite interesting, as it is partially a symbological calendar, and the equalizing of the days does make a lot of sense. But of course it does eliminate the concept of quarters. Also, there are not exactly 13 moon cycles in a year. In fact the moon cycles occur every 29.5 days. There are however, supposedly major world events that correspond to larger cycles. I have not investigated these to see if they bear any real resemblence to actual facts.

Codex Alimentarius
True. Codex alimentarius is a set of proposals set up by a subcomittee of the UN, setting guidelines for the regulation of food and health products
The Codex Alimentarius (Latin for "food code" or "food book") is a collection of internationally recognized standards, codes of practice, guidelines and other recommendations relating to foods, food production and food safety under the aegis of consumer protection. These texts are developed and maintained by the Codex Alimentarius Commission, a body that was established in 1963 by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). The Commission's main aims are stated as being to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair practices in the international food trade. The Codex Alimentarius is recognized by the World Trade Organization as an international reference point for the resolution of disputes concerning food safety and consumer protection.
...The Guidelines have attracted concern from both consumers and industry due to the potential for restrictions on vitamins and minerals as dietary supplements. The health freedom movement has pointed to greater concerns related to restrictions on dietary supplement ingredients in Europe [4] via the European Union's Food Supplements Directive [5] (which utilizes approved lists of ingredients and ingredient forms) and potentially restrictive dosage limits to be based on a Codex model via the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and World Health Organization (WHO) Nutrient Risk Assessment Project. [6]
Generally, Codex Alimentarius *has* gone into effect for certain countries such as Germany, which have partially reclassified natural health supplements (even herbals such as St.Johns Wort) as drugs, and have tightened regulation on them. In other countries such as Canada (see: Bill C-51), Codex Alimentarius in various stages of legislation. The effect of this will be to increase regulation on natural or homeopathic remedies, and lessen their availability as they will need to be tested and approved for sale.

In the film it states that cows will be REQUIRED to use Monsanto's rBGH (growth hormones). This is blatantly false. The Codex sets maximum permissible levels for growth hormones, but it does not require that cows be given these. (to my knowledge)

IRS Document 6209
Blatantly False. This is a 600+ page document on deciphering IMF codes (the long number that the IRS assigns to US citizens, which contains various indicators and 'flags' as to that persons status with the IRS). I mustve spent at least half an hour painstakingly skimming through this massive document, as well as running searches on keywords. And nowhere in this document does it mention that the USA makes these payments as tribute to Britain, nor does it mention anything about any enemy of the state clauses or anything claimed by the film.

Fluoride Dangers:
TRUE. Fluoride in high enough doses is dangerous to ones health. The movie claims that sodium fluoride is used in rat poison. This claim is also true. High levels of fluoride are quite harmful to ones health, much in the same way that high levels of many substances are. However, even rather low levels of fluoride can be harmful as evidence by this study (www.fluoride-journal.com/00-33-2/332-74.pdf), which has appears to show a link between high fluoridation and a reduction in IQ. It should be noted that the 'high' fluoride benchmark in that study is 3.15mg/L -- whereas the fluoridation level of many communities is much lower than that. (my community fluoridates water at 1.3mg/L or less than half of the level shown in the study)

Most communities are fluoridating water using sodium fluoride, but even more alarmingly is that some communities are instead using Hexafluorosilicic acid for water fluoridation. Hexafluorosilicic acid attacks glass and stoneware and releases Hydrogen Fluoride upon evaporation. It is not exactly the kind of stuff you want in your body. And yes, these substances are biproducts of certain manufacturing techniques, and thusly can be classified as industrial waste.

Oh, and I seen that some people used to take sodium fluoride tablets to have whiter teeth. Ugh, can people be any worse informed? Thats like taking cancer pills, or anti-calcium (as SiF actually harms bones)

Real person, Artifical Person, and name capitalization
Likely false. I looked around but didnt find any evidence supporting or opposing this point of view.

100th Monkey Effect
Likely false. I did a bunch of digging around about this, and it seems to be based on anecdotal evidence. Interviews with the people who have actually observed the effect, have explained possible ways in which the monkeys may have learned the behavior. An inspiring story, but it hasn't been backed by any real research.

I'll look up some more stuff later.