Mad Cow Madness [Archive]

INTerloPer

7 Mar 2005, 04:32 AM

Is it just me? or does anyone else find it absolutely amazing that the U.S.
government can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to
the stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington, and determine
exactly what that cow ate, not to mention the fact that they can also track her calves right to their stalls, and tell you what kind of feed they ate. But they are unable to
locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around in their country,
including people that are trying to blow up important structures in the U.S.

As soon as these people enter the country, every illegal alien should be
given a cow.

Dunearhp

7 Mar 2005, 04:44 AM

We just have to legalize cannibalism. The health regulations would take care of the rest.

garak

7 Mar 2005, 04:46 AM

No I don't find it particularly amazing. The cows are part of businesses and the farmers have good reasons to keep track of them.

INTerloPer

7 Mar 2005, 04:48 AM

No I don't find it particularly amazing. The cows are part of businesses and the farmers have good reasons to keep track of them.
The illegal immigrants are part of a national security problem. doesn't the US have a good reason to track them? By the way, why does the whole world have a hate on for the states?

Division56

7 Mar 2005, 05:07 AM

The illegal immigrants are part of a national security problem. doesn't the US have a good reason to track them? By the way, why does the whole world have a hate on for the states?

Because we're just so damn pretty.

Helios

7 Mar 2005, 05:28 AM

By the way, why does the whole world have a hate on for the states?

'cause the media tells you that.

I have traveled pretty widely, hell I was in Paris (of all places!) last month, and while I have spoke with many people about what is happening in the world, even when they mistook me for some sorta Eurotrash I never heard "I hate America". You can't believe what they tell you man, I stopped watching TV a long time ago. It is is all BS anyway.

garak

7 Mar 2005, 05:50 AM

The illegal immigrants are part of a national security problem. doesn't the US have a good reason to track them?
Banks keep track of money down to the penny, but we do vote recounts and get different results -- wtf? It is obvious that individuals and businesses are much more careful with money than the government is with just about anything. I mean, just think about it, really. Yes obviously we should do a better job of dealing with immigration, but it's not that hard to see why we don't.

Arioch

7 Mar 2005, 06:25 AM

The illegal immigrants are part of a national security problem. doesn't the US have a good reason to track them? By the way, why does the whole world have a hate on for the states?

Bush. People liked the united states a lot more before him.

INTerloPer

7 Mar 2005, 07:48 AM

'cause the media tells you that.
I have traveled pretty widely, hell I was in Paris (of all places!) last month, and while I have spoke with many people about what is happening in the world, even when they mistook me for some sorta Eurotrash I never heard "I hate America". You can't believe what they tell you man, I stopped watching TV a long time ago. It is is all BS anyway.

LMAO. I dont form my opinions from tv, what kind of elitist do you think i am? I look at the fact that American tourists will be treated better, by European countries, with a Canadian flag sewn on their bag. I mean, a whole industry has popped up to teach Americans how to act Canadian. What kind of game is this? Our nationality is good enough but not our beef?

INTerloPer

7 Mar 2005, 07:54 AM

Bush. People liked the united states a lot more before him.

Too true. I don't know how he got re-elected!!! I mean, sure Kerry wasn't such a hot candidate, but at least he wasn't pissing nations off by policing the middle east, simultaneously f*cking up the economy. The strange thing is that I've yet to meet anyone who admits to voting for Bush (I guess I haven't gone south enough?) and I don't blame the religious-conservative war-mongering liars.

PonderBee

7 Mar 2005, 09:56 AM

I look at the fact that American tourists will be treated better, by European countries, with a Canadian flag sewn on their bag. I mean, a whole industry has popped up to teach Americans how to act Canadian. What kind of game is this? Our nationality is good enough but not our beef?[/font]
Call me an ignorant American, but I am unsure what industry you are referencing here. Please illuminate me.

INTerloPer

7 Mar 2005, 05:25 PM

Call me an ignorant American, but I am unsure what industry you are referencing here. Please illuminate me.
Well, PonderBee, the industry I'm refering to is the one that specializes in Canadianizing Americans before they travel abroad. There are many companies now involved in this [anyone know a web link to post?], selling everything from Canadian flag patches for bags, to books on how to act Canadian (I'm sure they're full of stereotypes, eh?), to reference cards with quick Canadian facts (names of prov/terr.'s, name of PM, info about beavers and who knows what all else). The fact that these companies exist is proof that at least SOME Americans are emberassed by American foreign policies... what's wrong with the rest of you?

PonderBee

7 Mar 2005, 11:32 PM

Well, PonderBee, the industry I'm refering to is the one that specializes in Canadianizing Americans before they travel abroad. There are many companies now involved in this [anyone know a web link to post?], selling everything from Canadian flag patches for bags, to books on how to act Canadian (I'm sure they're full of stereotypes, eh?), to reference cards with quick Canadian facts (names of prov/terr.'s, name of PM, info about beavers and who knows what all else). The fact that these companies exist is proof that at least SOME Americans are emberassed by American foreign policies... what's wrong with the rest of you?
I'd like to see the sales figures - and what the customer base is. The industry must not have to market these products because I haven't seen a single ad here in the US. Through work I am regularly at various international airports here in the states and there's been nary a hint of it. The Americans I see traveling abroad always seem quite happy on travel day - certainly they're not wetting their pants. Perhaps it is an underground industry with products shipped in plain brown paper wrappers to the shameful ugly Americans. I'll tell you this much - although I am not supportive of the current powers that be or their policies I am not embarrassed to be American. Actually I count myself lucky to be American.

MacGuffin

7 Mar 2005, 11:58 PM

I'll tell you this much - although I am not supportive of the current powers that be or their policies I am not embarrassed to be American. Actually I count myself lucky to be American.
You evil bastard!

INTerloPer

9 Mar 2005, 05:10 AM

I'd like to see the sales figures - and what the customer base is. The industry must not have to market these products because I haven't seen a single ad here in the US. Through work I am regularly at various international airports here in the states and there's been nary a hint of it. The Americans I see traveling abroad always seem quite happy on travel day - certainly they're not wetting their pants. Perhaps it is an underground industry with products shipped in plain brown paper wrappers to the shameful ugly Americans. I'll tell you this much - although I am not supportive of the current powers that be or their policies I am not embarrassed to be American. Actually I count myself lucky to be American.

Although I haven't been able to track down exactly what I've been looking for (try googling 'Americans Canadian flags' and you'll understand my difficulty), but here's a few sites that edge on our topic.
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/?Nao=1&No=1&Nty=1&N=0&Ntk=All&Ntt=canada (selling american/canadian political sh*t)
http://webboard.su.ualberta.ca/viewtopic.php?t=1516&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=7529d7b08e6a6b69f3e60e19aa7942cc (forum discussing canadian/american politics, travel, etc)

PonderBee

9 Mar 2005, 07:16 PM

INTerloper - is there a market for kits to disguise oneself as a Canadian? Probably, but I'd wager that the market for this is quite small. People would be most likely buy an item like this as a joke gift. Are there ignorant Americans that would actually travel to other nations and attempt to "pass" as a Canadian citizen for fear that they'd otherwise be targeted for violence as an American? Yes, there are many ignorant Americans, just as there are many ignorant Canadians. Is it a good idea for Americans traveling to other nations to try to blend in with the residents of said nation to avoid being targeted by criminals? Yes. Just as it is wise for all travelers to do when away from their country of origin. Is it fashionable in the US to make fun of, or sweeping generalizations about Canadians? No. Not in my experience.

MacGuffin

9 Mar 2005, 07:26 PM

booyalab

9 Mar 2005, 07:29 PM

I have heard of Americans passing themselves off as Canadians while traveling abroad. Not because of violence, just so they get treated better and aren't constantly called on to explain government policy.

I know this happens, before my parents went to Europe this summer, a lot of their friends told them to pretend to be Canadians. They didn't, and were practically mauled by some drunk bush-hating guy, but aside from that no one bothered them about their nationality.

mgb

9 Mar 2005, 07:35 PM

Canadians are probably the worst at attacking Americans (as individuals with no political context at all) about political policies.

I had a class once where we did this online link with a Canadian Lit class at Nebraska. The questions the Canadians asked were retarded. "Why do you all have different accents?" "Why does your government keep it's sanctions against Cuba?"

PonderBee is right. Lots of ignorant Canadians and ignorant Americans. Probably goes for every country. Except Britian, they know everything.

MacGuffin

9 Mar 2005, 07:38 PM

Except Britian, they know everything.
Quit giving Claverhouse and Geoff ammo.

Americans are pretty ignorant. I think a lot of it is the geographical isolation. Only two neighbors we share borders with.

crule81

9 Mar 2005, 07:38 PM

Too true. I don't know how he got re-elected!!! I mean, sure Kerry wasn't such a hot candidate, but at least he wasn't pissing nations off by policing the middle east, simultaneously f*cking up the economy. The strange thing is that I've yet to meet anyone who admits to voting for Bush (I guess I haven't gone south enough?) and I don't blame the religious-conservative war-mongering liars.

Just go a few hundred miles to the southwest and you can meet me.

mgb

9 Mar 2005, 07:42 PM

Just go a few hundred miles to the southwest and you can meet me.

And your brass knuckles?

booyalab

9 Mar 2005, 07:43 PM

Quit giving Claverhouse and Geoff ammo.

Americans are pretty ignorant. I think a lot of it is the geographical isolation. Only two neighbors we share borders with.

Speaking of ignorant countries, I knew someone who was in Afghanistan right after the war and apparently 90%(or so..the point is: most) of Afghani men thought..and may continue to think..that the US only went over there for the gold.

That's so silly....I mean how could we find time to mine all their gold when we're so busy extracting every last drop of their oil through that massive pipeline we're building under the Atlantic?

crule81

9 Mar 2005, 08:13 PM

And your brass knuckles?

I prefer the mag-lite.

But seriously, I don't get annoyed easily, but the implicit and explicit statements "that everyone who voted for Bush is a cretan with a sub-100 IQ and no grasp on rational thought" are beginning to piss me off. It's easy to dismiss opposing ideologies and beliefs by labelling the other side stupid. Such a label relieves the labeler from having to debate the strengths and weaknesses of the opponents beliefs since they are only the product of stupidity and lack of reason. I don't think INTerloPer actually implied this in his(?) post so I don't mean to criticize him(?). It just made my think of some other threads.

I think I may have posted something like this several times in the past.

booyalab

9 Mar 2005, 08:20 PM

I noticed it a lot more around election time. It doesn't piss me off, it just further convinces me that neither party has a monopoly on intelligence.

The funny thing is that this stance taken by the elitists of the democratic party is meant to draw people to the party (I think..) but it's really making it harder and harder for them to attract anyone. So who's smarter now?

crule81

9 Mar 2005, 08:22 PM

I noticed it a lot more around election time. It doesn't piss me off, it just further convinces me that neither party has a monopoly on intelligence.

It only pisses me off because it interferes with intelligent discussion.

booyalab

9 Mar 2005, 08:28 PM

It only pisses me off because it interferes with intelligent discussion.

I think the reflexive dismissal of Republicans as stupid or evil interferes, yeah. If anything could have changed it it should have been the election results, but now it just seems to have changed from a loud, high pitched shriek to a whiny, persistent moan. (just the general impression I get, lol)

Dman

9 Mar 2005, 09:55 PM

INTerloPer

9 Mar 2005, 10:00 PM

I prefer the mag-lite.
But seriously, I don't get annoyed easily, but the implicit and explicit statements "that everyone who voted for Bush is a cretan with a sub-100 IQ and no grasp on rational thought" are beginning to piss me off. It's easy to dismiss opposing ideologies and beliefs by labelling the other side stupid. Such a label relieves the labeler from having to debate the strengths and weaknesses of the opponents beliefs since they are only the product of stupidity and lack of reason. I don't think INTerloPer actually implied this in his(?) post so I don't mean to criticize him(?). It just made my think of some other threads.
I think I may have posted something like this several times in the past.
Certainly a vote for Bush does not indicate sub-standard intelligence. It does indicate that SOMETHING is lacking, however. Perhaps the same part of the brain that keeps most people from backing a losing horse.

2hype

9 Mar 2005, 11:52 PM

The funny thing is that this stance taken by the elitists of the democratic party is meant to draw people to the party (I think..) but it's really making it harder and harder for them to attract anyone. So who's smarter now?

I've thought the same thing.

Claverhouse

10 Mar 2005, 12:32 AM

but the implicit and explicit statements "that everyone who voted for Bush is a cretan with a sub-100 IQ and no grasp on rational thought" are beginning to piss me off.
But all Cretans are liars.

Claverhouse :ph34r:

Architectonic

10 Mar 2005, 12:55 PM

PonderBee is right. Lots of ignorant Canadians and ignorant Americans. Probably goes for every country. Except Britian, they know everything.

I wish Americans would stop confusing me with being British. (when I was in the USA) :huh:

But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around in their country,

Its either illegal aliens, or legalizing slave labor. ;P

gypseymothlee

27 Mar 2005, 10:10 AM

But they are unable to
locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around in their country,
including people that are trying to blow up important structures in the U.S.

We aren't trying to eat illegal aliens. At least not most of us.

ppc

28 Mar 2005, 04:14 AM

ppc

28 Mar 2005, 04:16 AM

No I don't find it particularly amazing. The cows are part of businesses and the farmers have good reasons to keep track of them.

Just look at it the other way as well - there is good reason to not keep track of the immigrants because many people have vested interests to let them come to this country that way.

Essentially a second class of illegal citizens/indentured servants.