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Division56
8 Mar 2005, 05:13 AM
What do you think of backing up the forums and archives, and then deleting everything? Starting out with a completely blank slate?

Just a middle of the night rambling... :ph34r: :laser:

mgb
8 Mar 2005, 05:14 AM
But then how would new people revive really old threads?

Trolsk
8 Mar 2005, 05:15 AM
In order to redesign the forum layout, or what?

Division56
8 Mar 2005, 05:20 AM
More for... well... I didn't really have a reason.

Anyway, it would make everything new again. It would be interesting to see if the forum reshaped itself in new ways.

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 05:21 AM
Here's me thinking it probably wouldn't. People are kinda set in the ways of this one, and would probably try to make it the same again, rather that just coming up with a new format out of nowhere.

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 05:23 AM
We could try archiving the last twenty pages of threads from the Pub or something, though, if you really felt like doing something.

Division56
8 Mar 2005, 05:25 AM
We could try archiving the last twenty pages of threads from the Pub or something, though, if you really felt like doing something.


Doing something and talk of doing something are two very, very different things, my blue haired friend.

:whistle:

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 05:30 AM
True.
Very true.

Trolsk
8 Mar 2005, 05:35 AM
More for... well... I didn't really have a reason.
Great. :)


Anyway, it would make everything new again. It would be interesting to see if the forum reshaped itself in new ways.
Assuming that you're thinking of a completely clean layout with no categories and so on, I don't like that idea since I'm thinking of categories popping up ad-hoc style. It'd be better with a clean and fresh redesign, IMO.

Division56
8 Mar 2005, 05:37 AM
I agree. It would be madness to simply have no categories.

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 07:13 AM
I agree. It would be madness to simply have no categories.
And also an unholy mess.


"... and out of the chaos... formed the Pub. And it was good."

garak
8 Mar 2005, 07:16 AM
Sounds exciting.

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 07:20 AM
Forum Genesis.

Still sounds like secession, though.

ApeTheDog
8 Mar 2005, 10:38 AM
I don't think erasing everything in the forum would be practical either. It would have certain advantages, such as being able to talk about everything anew again - but it would also not change anything, since people would just restart the threads they used to like in the old forum, and not start new ones in a different style from how they started them before either.

But what if...

- instead of one giant big forum, we had lots of small ones, as many as are required, each limited to 100 people. No more. That way, the same threads could be discussed with more participation and more attention to individual posts - in my opinion one of the biggest factors for how much fun it is to be on a forum is how much feedback you get and give, with more people that number automatically reduces because otherwise you'd be doing nothing but, and it leads to people feeling unappreciated - several times, in different forums.
* People could transfer between forums when they're bored of a certain 'crowd'.
* People could also choose to have other people forcibly be transferred to another forum, if they are bored of that persons company.

- We add a wiki to the site. That is like a site that can be edited by everybody at once. We could use this to do all kinds of things, like post highscores for games or co-write a story. Or something else. Anybody who has an idea on how to make it better, would be able to just go ahead and do it.

garak
8 Mar 2005, 10:53 AM
The wiki idea had entered my mind as well, but I thought that there wasn't anything compelling enough for people to actually write about and it would languish.

ApeTheDog
8 Mar 2005, 11:07 AM
Quite possible. I can think of some implementations for it right now, though.

- favourite quotes page. If anyone says something particularily brilliant or interesting, you can copy it there.
- book reviews/discussion. If you're read a great book, review it there and/or post your opinion on it on the page.

and more like that. The great benefit of the wiki is that it's not subject to threads coming and going. On the forum, a discussion is fresh for a while, then dies because it goes to the second page and/or it's too long so nobody can be bothered to read through it all in order to reply. On the wiki, everything would be subject for adding to, and the amount of text to read about one issue would be a lot smaller, as instead of rewriting what someone else said, but with one added detail, you could instead edit what they said.

It might be a great place for the grammar nazi's to patrol and fuel their innate thirst for correcting others on too. :)

indie
8 Mar 2005, 04:10 PM
It might be a great place for the grammar nazi's to patrol and fuel their innate thirst for correcting others on too. :)

It's "grammar Nazis."

jimkopelli
8 Mar 2005, 05:17 PM
How hard would it be for someone to add on a wiki section to the main site? We could keep the INTP description there, and also branch off and do whatever else... Could be very useful.

booyalab
8 Mar 2005, 05:58 PM
I agree. It would be madness to simply have no categories.

I think it would be interesting to have no categories and see if any develop on their own.

Claverhouse
8 Mar 2005, 08:11 PM
It's "grammar Nazis."
:thumbup:



Claverhouse :ph34r:


[ Ground Zero options generally appeal to only the most visionary and tireless leaders: the sort who need strait-jackets. ]

[ Besides, a blank slate is certainly going to unattract new members: unless that's your intention... ]

heeroyuy
8 Mar 2005, 08:54 PM
A "wiki" of sometype is under discussion currently.

My groups project, which so many people seemed to hate, is still in development, and would provide the functionality of small "mini-forums" for people to talk about specialized topics.

Blah.

misutii
8 Mar 2005, 10:38 PM
i think any type of change would be wicked, preferably a change that is literally wicked and makes other posters cry and stomp their feet in frustration

mgb
8 Mar 2005, 10:49 PM
A "wiki" of sometype is under discussion currently.

My groups project, which so many people seemed to hate, is still in development, and would provide the functionality of small "mini-forums" for people to talk about specialized topics.

Blah.

I think that would be a good idea. I might not have when you suggested it, I can see myself doing that, but I do now. And the faster the better.

Star
8 Mar 2005, 10:53 PM
i think any type of change would be wicked, preferably a change that is literally wicked and makes other posters cry and stomp their feet in frustration

Yeah! Like wiping the user list and making everyone start over again, with new nicknames and no posting history. :devil:

misutii
8 Mar 2005, 11:00 PM
Yeah! Like wiping the user list and making everyone start over again, with new nicknames and no posting history. :devil:

great minds think alike.... however, if that is too much (because the people that that would exert tears and stomping on are the one's with probably most say in the forum) i think everyone with over 100 posts should have the right to have their own title's, if just to spite the people who wasted 1000 posts of their time to get their stupid titles, 222 posts would also suffice if 100 is too low
damn traditionalists

mgb
8 Mar 2005, 11:02 PM
great minds think alike.... however, if that is too much (because the people that that would exert tears and stomping on are the one's with probably most say in the forum) i think everyone with over 100 posts should have the right to have their own title's, if just to spite the people who wasted 1000 posts of their time to get their stupid titles, 222 posts would also suffice if 100 is too low
damn traditionalists

Would it really matter what the number of posts to get a nickname is? I don't think so. More the merrier.

Star
9 Mar 2005, 12:54 AM
Would it really matter what the number of posts to get a nickname is? I don't think so. More the merrier.

Yeah, I was thinking more of how everyone would deal with the loss of their online persona. I think several people* would be easily recognizable in their first posts under new handles, though.

* [ Guess which one I'm thinking about right now! ]

mgb
9 Mar 2005, 01:28 AM
Yeah, I was thinking more of how everyone would deal with the loss of their online persona. I think several people* would be easily recognizable in their first posts under new handles, though.

* [ Guess which one I'm thinking about right now! ]

I can't guess, it's impossible. Give me some hints. I wonder if anyone would change their username to Victim?

Utopmk
9 Mar 2005, 07:48 AM
I say nuke it, but I won't be back for reconstruction.

Claverhouse
9 Mar 2005, 06:13 PM
OK, to satisfy both the old party members and the destructionist elements, how about:

i/ Intpcentral remains as it is.

ii/ a parallel is created, subsectored only from within intpcentral: Intpcentral Freebase.

Only existing members of Intpcentral could join Intpcentral Freebase, and to register for the latter would have their membership of the main site suspended for the duration of their stay there ( minimum two months ); nor could they be allowed to enter a false registration to gain the benefit of both worlds.

Members of Freebase would get new identities/avatars and not be allowed to reveal their Intpcentral personality; nor discuss the main site/it's members.

Freebase would consist solely of a registration form; and it's front page on which there would either be any thread started or ( more radical ) one long thread to discuss everything: ie: no categories at all.

( Although categories might later emerge from the group consciousness. An inexorable consequence of any experiment in raw democracy.)

Freebase would be either unmonitored, or monitored by the good sense and natural harmony of the democratic mass therein.

Members of Intpcentral would wholly ignore Intpcentral Freebase and it's members.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

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