View Full Version : GREED --- Essay on the effects of the 'Free Market' model
Claverhouse
12 Aug 2004, 07:21 PM
Brilliant essay by Julian Edney on the destructive and idiotic doctrine of libertarian freedom which makes the rich super-rich and the poor super-poor.
Plus his 'Nuts' game.
GREED (http://www.g-r-e-e-d.com/GREED.htm)
Death to Adam Smith Now !
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Johnny
12 Aug 2004, 08:43 PM
Well, at least it's easy to tell who is not Libertarian...:lol:
Is Adam Smith an Objectivist?
Claverhouse
21 Sep 2004, 10:26 PM
You may have gathered that I wouldn't like to speculate in which direction Smith went when he departed this earthly vail, nonetheless I think it safe to say he probably hasn't received news of the odious Miss Rand's existence nor her philosophy.
So many things, so little time, even in Eternity...
:D
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Or rather was Rand influenced by Adam Smith, I should have asked. Oh thaaaat Adam Smith... man, I had forgot about him. Yea, he has been worm food for ages.
Forgive my ignorance and laziness. :D
Hypnos
22 Sep 2004, 03:43 AM
Same old whine, bitch, moan rehashed by all statists, and my rebuttals which no one has been able to penetrate:
* Isn't it perverse to grant rights by need? Why disincentivize productivity?
* What's so good about egalitarianism? Why snip the tall poppies?
* Wealth creation is not a zero sum game -- efficiencies are created every day by new ideas, technologies, natural resources and shifts in large economic structures.
Another theme this particular author harps on is rank materialism -- humanist house of cards! A free market does not _induce_ materialism, but rather it is an instinctual/cultural problem that can be exploited by people who know better to work towards their own happiness.
sme_bro
23 Sep 2004, 03:15 AM
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995080
dammit, tried to find an article on a study done that shows that no matter what there is always a build-up of money amongst a few people. The study showed that over time therehas always been a large gap between the rich and poor, and even when a rich person falls and loses wealth another person will rise and replace them. anyway the point is you want distribute wealth equaly, there are always people who horde and grow their wealth.
I love business debates, there is never a right or wrong answer. Havnt read the essay yet but i am printing it off to read later right now.
MacGuffin
8 Oct 2004, 03:58 PM
Same old whine, bitch, moan rehashed by all statists, and my rebuttals which no one has been able to penetrate:
* Isn't it perverse to grant rights by need? Why disincentivize productivity?
* What's so good about egalitarianism? Why snip the tall poppies?
* Wealth creation is not a zero sum game -- efficiencies are created every day by new ideas, technologies, natural resources and shifts in large economic structures.
Another theme this particular author harps on is rank materialism -- humanist house of cards! A free market does not _induce_ materialism, but rather it is an instinctual/cultural problem that can be exploited by people who know better to work towards their own happiness.
Socialism is for Ss and Js.
Not that I believe in a totally laissez-faire capitalism system either. I fear the concentration of power everywhere: religion, government, business....
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