helping immigration

[Shai Gar]

okay here is my idea, we INTPs who live in 1st world nations should help the INTPs from the 3rd world to immigrate to our nation by sponsorship, the way i propose doing this is simple. if a person on the forums is INTP and from a third world nation they should be able to post in an Immigration forum about their situation and we firstworlders could post in their threads offers to come to live with us untill they get onto their feet.

because honestly a person can survive very well on just an initial fee of 50 dollars for a library card, and 30 dollars a week for food. and we should be able to spare it and help them out. after all how would we like it.

we would obviously have to work legally and follow every single thing that our governments require but i think we could do it.

guys. tell me how you feel about this, and how we could improve upon it.

[Hypnos]

Most INTPs, like most people, are morons.

I think the following should be expanded in the US:

Tips for U.S. Visas: EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISAS
http://immigration.about.com/library/blempbasGC.htm

[Shai Gar]

nah, most INTPs are very knowledgable when they have the chance to learn.
what i am suggesting is giving them that chance, a chance to live in a real nation where they have the possibility to succeed.

and i dont know about US immigration laws but to get immigration to australia all you need is a person to sponsor you and for you to find real work. i found that out with the areas church supporting refugees from zimbabwe.

[Hypnos]

nah, most INTPs are very knowledgable when they have the chance to learn.
what i am suggesting is giving them that chance, a chance to live in a real nation where they have the possibility to succeed.
Well, you can't just learn -- you have to do.

Anyway, i find your optimism refreshing, and hope you're right
:sombrero:

[Shai Gar]

well i will personally sponsor 2 3rd worlders if they can get here.

[Shai Gar]

so it might work.

[PonderBee]

There are plenty-o-thirdworlders in this area being sponsored by thirdworlders that came before them. They take full advantage of the tax breaks and loopholes available to them as new immigrants. My help is not needed.

[Claverhouse]

How about sponsoring them not to come, but to continue infesting wherever they were known and loved ?


[ Everytime we have one of our popular wars, the aftermath is that people from the region concerned make a bee-line for London, possibly as some primitive instinct of revenge, and set up criminal gangs. Currently we've got Albanians. --- Strangely, the refugees from Saddam's tyrannical regime of hell don't seem to be returning to the fatherland now it's happy, peaceful and has it's very own democracy. ]

[ A few years ago a prominent black leftist here, called Bernie Grant, suddenly made the amazingly cool suggestion that disaffected West Indians, and other ethnics, should be given large amounts of government cash to surrender their alleged British citizenship and return to Jamaica or wherever they came from with sums that would make them comparatively rich there ( certainly rich enough to engage in drug-smuggling to the USA and Europe, which can parley into a veritable fortune ). He then died.

I'd like it extended to include many millions of normal British people as well: there's room for a super-underground mini-nation in central Australia, which could account for 30 million British people. All they really want is to work hard, drive cars, shop, and watch sport: all of which can be done in the bowels of the earth ( which I rarely visit ). It could be done under the pretext of telling them there's going to be, or has been, a nuclear war --- vide the Hitchhiker's Guide.

The Aussies wouldn't even have to know they were there. ]



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[PonderBee]

How about sponsoring them not to come, but to continue infesting wherever they were known and loved ?

I'd like it extended to include many millions of normal British people as well: there's room for a super-underground mini-nation in central Australia, which could account for 30 million British people. All they really want is to work hard, drive cars, shop, and watch sport: all of which can be done in the bowels of the earth ( which I rarely visit ). It could be done under the pretext of telling them there's going to be, or has been, a nuclear war --- vide the Hitchhiker's Guide.

The Aussies wouldn't even have to know they were there. ]
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Excellent ideas! Reroute all of the 3rd worlders and jackass citizens to Australia. Claverhouse you work the list of Britons and I'll compile the list of US citizens that need to be shipped out. Shai Gar - opportunity is calling. An army of followers to do your bidding.

[mgb]

How about sponsoring them not to come, but to continue infesting wherever they were known and loved ?


[ Everytime we have one of our popular wars, the aftermath is that people from the region concerned make a bee-line for London, possibly as some primitive instinct of revenge, and set up criminal gangs. Currently we've got Albanians. --- Strangely, the refugees from Saddam's tyrannical regime of hell don't seem to be returning to the fatherland now it's happy, peaceful and has it's very own democracy. ]

[ A few years ago a prominent black leftist here, called Bernie Grant, suddenly made the amazingly cool suggestion that disaffected West Indians, and other ethnics, should be given large amounts of government cash to surrender their alleged British citizenship and return to Jamaica or wherever they came from with sums that would make them comparatively rich there ( certainly rich enough to engage in drug-smuggling to the USA and Europe, which can parley into a veritable fortune ). He then died.

I'd like it extended to include many millions of normal British people as well: there's room for a super-underground mini-nation in central Australia, which could account for 30 million British people. All they really want is to work hard, drive cars, shop, and watch sport: all of which can be done in the bowels of the earth ( which I rarely visit ). It could be done under the pretext of telling them there's going to be, or has been, a nuclear war --- vide the Hitchhiker's Guide.

The Aussies wouldn't even have to know they were there. ]



Claverhouse :ph34r:

It's funny because you did it to yourselves.

Shai, the problem is that 3rd world people are pretty short on ways to contact 1st world people. Many of them can't read let alone use a computer. I am sure the guidence counsellors at school haven't even heard of MBTI. There is also a pretty good chance that the Human Resourses director at the quarry or "Domestic Help" firm they work at probably doesn't use MBTI either. Plus, someone has to distribute the prince of their country's inheretence money right? It just can't work.

[coffeezombie]

50 dollars for a library card?! Damn, they are free here. I can get one as an unemployed resident of my city. No wonder more people immigrate to the US than Australia.

[Claverhouse]

It's funny because you did it to yourselves. Quite.

[ Nonetheless, I'm sure that in your land the old chaps who either wear tartan skirts on a regular basis or keep a photograph of de Gaulle over their bed, just adore more Vietnamese neighbours...* ]



Claverhouse :ph34r:

* You didn't even join the war against them.

---

Anyway, why's this in the Forum Suggestion Box ?

[Geoff]

50 dollars for a library card?! Damn, they are free here. I can get one as an unemployed resident of my city. No wonder more people immigrate to the US than Australia.

Ah yes. Fancy having to pay for a library card. You certainly dont here!

At the very least is should be one of the basic human rights.

Water, Hygiene, Health, Food, Library Card.

-Geoff

[Vagabond]

Not many people from 3rd world countries have access to the internet.

[SensEye]

Not many people from 3rd world countries have access to the internet.Not in their homes perhaps, but internet cafés are getting pretty common everywhere (in larger cities anyways).

[Geoff]

Actually this 'sponsoring the third world' reminds me of when I was at University. Every year the University would sponsor some students from underprivileged foreign backgrounds (like a scholarship of sorts, I suppose).

In my year, a poor black South African (this was prior to the ending of Apartheid - just). I knew the guy that they brought over with University money. He'd married 4 white Englishwomen before they sent him home....
(and apparently he was married in South Africa too!)
I dont know, they come over here, taking our women... ha.

-Geoff

[mgb]

Quite.

[ Nonetheless, I'm sure that in your land the old chaps who either wear tartan skirts on a regular basis or keep a photograph of de Gaulle over their bed, just adore more Vietnamese neighbours...* ]



Claverhouse :ph34r:

* You didn't even join the war against them.

---

Anyway, why's this in the Forum Suggestion Box ?


It's mostly those old crazy cooks in their kilts or/and berets that are the bigger problem. That and not recognizing the credentials of trained immigrants so they can maximize their potential.

*exactly why I don't mind the Vietnamese neighbors. A little communism never hurt anyone :D