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Division56
13 Aug 2004, 03:12 PM
What would be your preffered method of suicide. So many people seemed very opinionated on it, I was wondering.
Building jumping might be an option, but it seems so messy.
If I did it it would have to be quick, unreversable, pain doesn't really bother me, but I wouldn't like the wait of drowning of suffocating.
HairlessBluetick
13 Aug 2004, 03:16 PM
"Officer-assisted"
Vagabond
13 Aug 2004, 03:48 PM
I am not sure we should be giving people ideas in here... anyways... jumping would be my No1, off a high cliff preferably. Flying has always been a dream of mine, dying is instant and the mess is for others to clean up. ;)
But I wouldn't commit suicide. This is just theory.
Crazy
13 Aug 2004, 05:05 PM
Natural Causes.
Or maybe some type of consequence of ciggarettes.
picking a fight with a Hells Angel or the Yakuza would be interesting.
Utopmk
13 Aug 2004, 05:27 PM
-_- Something injected.
http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/doctor.gif :ph34r:
flan2dave
13 Aug 2004, 05:43 PM
Two short knives, pierce the stomach in the upper region with one and the lower with the other, slice through in a clockwise motion with each knife, have the flesh of the stomach fall down in front like a plate, then eat the intestines and guts until I pass out from blood loss. :)
paladinoflunaria
13 Aug 2004, 09:40 PM
Something quick. Drowning or suffocating is out of the question, because I would probably change my mind while I was dying.
giftedmadness@hotmail.com
13 Aug 2004, 09:41 PM
This is a waste of thinking.
paladinoflunaria
13 Aug 2004, 09:47 PM
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?—To die,—to sleep,—
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to,—’tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish’d. To die,—to sleep;—
To sleep: perchance to dream:—ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of despis’d love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would these fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,—
The undiscover’d country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns,—puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought;
And enterprises of great pith and moment,
With this regard, their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.
A waste of thinking, eh?
Johnny
13 Aug 2004, 09:55 PM
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?—To die,—to sleep,—
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to,—’tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish’d. To die,—to sleep;—
To sleep: perchance to dream:—ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of despis’d love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would these fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,—
The undiscover’d country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns,—puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought;
And enterprises of great pith and moment,
With this regard, their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.
A waste of thinking, eh?
Nice. :D
giftedmadness@hotmail.com
13 Aug 2004, 10:02 PM
I'm lost. I don't understand what that piece of writing has to do with describing the best way to kill yourself would be. I would understand if it was the best way to die, which isn't of your will, but the best way to end your own life, to me, is silly, and if you actually went through with killing yourself, it would be the worst possible thing you could do to yourself. So thinking about it would be a waste of time. Why don't you use your own thoughts and explain yourself instead of quoting someone else's vague lines?
Division56
13 Aug 2004, 11:34 PM
I think you are wrong, there are worse things than death.
Crazy
13 Aug 2004, 11:37 PM
I think you are wrong, there are worse things than death.
True, but suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem
Johnny
14 Aug 2004, 02:03 AM
I think the point is that both death and ways of dying are universal thoughts...even Shakespeare, through one of his characters, reveals thoughts on death and ways of dying. You should see the play to understand the context, along with getting to see that Hamlet doesn't really try to commit suicide...
file cabinet
14 Aug 2004, 02:18 AM
I would probably want to kill other people first then I would take care of myself.
MasterMerk
14 Aug 2004, 02:37 AM
Gun to the head, quick and painless.
Claverhouse
14 Aug 2004, 02:50 AM
Gun to the head, quick and painless.
Sounds good, but failing the Tsarist or Russian or whatever method of sticking the barrel in the mouth, it is actually extremely difficult; the skull is too hard at such a minute range and the angle of elbow/wrist/hand isn't really optimal.
Either way you risk brain-damage instead.
But then most methods have that drawback...
Claverhouse :ph34r:
MasterMerk
14 Aug 2004, 03:01 AM
Surviving suicide with severe brain damage would be an annoyance :/. I still can’t think of any other preferable way to do the job.
file cabinet
14 Aug 2004, 03:03 AM
explosive device? I heard about some guy who blew himself up in front of his home.
Utopmk
14 Aug 2004, 03:05 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that people associate suicide with relief?
I always thought that was silly since relief is a human (living) emotion.
flan2dave
14 Aug 2004, 03:08 AM
heh, funny you bring up literature to justify this diversion, my idea actually comes from a novel (Bell Jar).
Vagabond
14 Aug 2004, 03:08 AM
Actually it is about getting rid of the pain.
Utopmk
14 Aug 2004, 03:15 AM
Actually it is about getting rid of the pain.
I understand that is the case for some, but what about the people who say "I'd feel better dead."? Some people actually belive that they will get relief once they die.
Vagabond
14 Aug 2004, 03:17 AM
Um... feel better dead you said...? :blink: They've got to stop smoking that stuff :lol:
Utopmk
14 Aug 2004, 03:24 AM
Um... feel better dead you said...? :blink: They've got to stop smoking that stuff :lol:
Alice In Chains - "Nutshell" (lyrics look like a suicide letter)
My gift of self is raped
My privacy is raked
And yet I find
And yet I find
Repeating in my head
If I can't be my own
I'd feel better dead
Its a common expression, actually.
MasterMerk
14 Aug 2004, 03:31 AM
It's just a figure of speech. Some people also believe in heaven.
Vagabond
14 Aug 2004, 03:34 AM
I understand that is the case for some, but what about the people who say "I'd feel better dead."? Some people actually belive that they will get relief once they die.
It is you who asked... I am greek ;)
(Muahaha, this excuse will always work :D )
Utopmk
14 Aug 2004, 03:40 AM
:mellow:
Vagabond
14 Aug 2004, 03:58 AM
Nah, I am a sp Five... ;P
(I am trying to ignore the pattern that is starting to form... hmm.)
Birnam
14 Aug 2004, 04:28 AM
not even jumping will always work
http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffresearch.html
Division56
14 Aug 2004, 05:15 AM
I just remembered a good way. Quick release insulin for diabetics. You inject it and within seconds it drops your blood sugar to unsafe levels, knocks you out and then stops your heart.
Melody
14 Aug 2004, 05:27 AM
Hmmm. One of the cells to my comic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/tocca/cell089.jpg
I think this wrist slitting way is good, as long it is done along the vein. I imagine I would get lightheaded and doze off into diminishing thought.
Google Monster
14 Aug 2004, 05:53 AM
Skydive without a choute.
paladinoflunaria
14 Aug 2004, 05:54 AM
I think someone's survived that, but I can't remember. Either way, it is extremely unlikely.
Melody
14 Aug 2004, 06:06 AM
Hmmm. What about a combination? Taking a massive amount of dangerous pills, slitting your wrist, shooting yourself in the head, and getting married while skydiving without a parachute into the middle of a shark-infested area of ocean. Instead of a parachute, your backpack will have a time bomb meant to go off some time before you land (you will calculate this with your extensive knowledge of physics,) splitting you in half and making it easier for your body to be mangled by sharks.
MasterMerk
14 Aug 2004, 06:14 AM
It's original, what can I say?
Birnam
14 Aug 2004, 06:22 AM
Your spouse to be (you were getting married) freaks when you pass out from lack of blood/shock after shooting yourself in the head, figures you're dead and takes the backpack that she thought was the parachute, leaving you to die alone. The bomb goes off exploding her instead of you, which explosion alerts the plane piolet that all isn't well. They just so happen to be flying a sea-plane, and rescue you from the sea before the sharks can eat too much as your spouse to be was "easier to mangle". Swallowing all that seawater makes you puke up the pills. You are sent to a very intensive care unit on a nearby navy ship and surprise everyone by surviving. Did I leave anything out? Oh yes, the shot to the head missed the vital spot because your spouse to be went bananas when she saw it and was wrestleing it out of your hand when you pulled the trigger... or better still, she took it before you got the chance to shoot yourself and threw it.
all in fun people..
paladin- see my above post :)
Melody
14 Aug 2004, 06:38 AM
D'oh. I forgot to mention that you were getting married online with the AIM feature on your nifty cellphone.
Yeh, in fun. Still, there are people that suffer by being alive because they have cancer or something similar. What is the difference between them and someone who has had a rough life and is considering suicide? Most of us do not have rough-rough lives, but even we are aware that some memories and experiences and sensations do not go away.
SensEye
15 Aug 2004, 08:00 AM
You folks need to experience a cold climate. Hypothermia is definitely the way to go. Like the old Inuit who walk off into the arctic. Relatively painless and not the least bit messy. Plus, it leaves the enigma of what happened? Did he just get lost or what?
Having said this, tongue in cheek, I would strongly counsel against suicide. You will die soon enough compared to the eternity of existence and all. Enojoy life while you have it. Nothing is so bad it can not change.
HackerX
15 Aug 2004, 08:13 AM
I always thought a quote from bash.org was a funny way to go:
"Walk into a crowded room, Yell out "I HAVE AIDS" and blow your head off with a shotgun"
Personally, something quick would be nice... though its not something I really care for.
jimkopelli
15 Aug 2004, 08:06 PM
In the ancient Chinese militia, there was a death penalty for commiting suicide. How would that work?
I would try to go out with a bang, Bonnie and Clyde style. Rob a bank, jack a car, head for an airport. If you get shot to death, then it's a success. If you somehow make it onto a plane and out of the country with all the loot, wouldn't you suddenly have a will to live, and also be able to consider that a success?
Utopmk
15 Aug 2004, 08:44 PM
Nah, I am a sp Five... ;P
(I am trying to ignore the pattern that is starting to form... hmm.)
..
I always joke that if I'm flying and something happens, I'm taking the plane into the office of our old apartment complex.
Vagabond
15 Aug 2004, 10:14 PM
Nah, I am a sp Five... ;P
(I am trying to ignore the pattern that is starting to form... hmm.)
Trust me, I'm no "SF." :angry:
I never said you were. <_< My problem is not with SFs, my family is packed with them and I love them. My problem is simply with taking personal offense if someone suggests someone is another type than the one they think. I thought discussing it helps growing and I thought we are interested in growing. Do you really think we should move that discussion in other threads too?
Salad
20 Aug 2004, 07:55 AM
*gasps with joy and clutches hands over heart*
we could jump off a cliff together vaga!
*swoons and faints, overjoyed at the thought*
afton
20 Dec 2005, 11:16 AM
Many methods here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_method
eyebyte_atWork
20 Dec 2005, 12:50 PM
I am curious what thought started this thread - I started to think.. how can this be done in a way that garauntees results with much fuss.
It is harder than I thought - there are so many ways it can go wrong.
Biff_Loman
20 Dec 2005, 03:46 PM
Suicide is harder, but one can build redundancy into the mix, such:
1) Stand in deep water, lean forward and shoot yourself in the head. You'll most likely be knocked unconscious, even if the bullet fails to kill you. . . and then you fall forward and drown.
2) Take a lethal dose of poison and then jump off a bridge.
3) My father knew someone who parked his car, lit it on fire and then stabbed himself in the chest. Not my first choice, but certainly a manly way to do it. Incidentally, my cousin dated this individual's daughter after they met in grief counselling; my cousin's sister had been murdered.
Well, there are certainly a multitude of ways to get the job done. If one is really motivated one could walk naked into a freezing wilderness with a rope, a gun, poison, and a knife and just not give up.
Edit: I read once about a woman who was on suicide watch for some period of time. She grew out one fingernail without anyone noticing, then sharpened it to a point and slit her wrists with the nail. Talk about motivation!
Darkness
20 Dec 2005, 03:55 PM
Commiting suicide is difficult because of the biological Negative Feeback Systems that govern the human body...
misutii
21 Dec 2005, 10:59 AM
opium
cjs55
21 Dec 2005, 11:12 AM
Shot to the head, maybe in the middle of the ocean.
I would certainly research it beforehand, to make sure my chosen firearm and angle was powerful enough to certainly get the job done.
I have always thought I would kill myself when I got too old, in the middle of the sea, or on a high mountain. Maybe I would simply just starve to death, but I don't know if that would be preferable or not.
the_stumpycat
21 Dec 2005, 12:10 PM
Close to me is a motorway with a bend. On the outside is a wall (its the support for a bridge actually). With a quiet road (in the night for example), I reckon I could hit the wall head on at at least 100mph and probably more. With no seatbelt I reckon that should do the job in a pretty quick and painless way - it also has the advantage that people would never be sure if it was just an accident (I think that would upset and bother people less).
Thats the way I would do it, my fantasy would be guns (more than one) and being in a crowded shopping area (or my office) shooting people until the police took me out - I reckon with suitable weapons you could take out quite a lot.
Ka.avik
22 Dec 2005, 02:56 AM
When I first had suicidal thoughts, probably pre-teen but don't quote me, the technique I envisioned was to stand on a stool after placing some phone books or the like a certain distance away, and with the household machete (of course a large cooking knife could be made to work, too) placed carefully so as to miss my ribs but not my heart, I would fall forward. Handle->ph.books, and I should be run through.
I could never successfully slit my wrists. It would hurt. I can ignore pain, but I can't cause it...
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