INTP musicians?

[Rojo]

Here's a few likely candidates I reckon...

Kurt Cobain
David Byrne
Brian Eno
Thurston Moore
John Lennon (?)
Elvis Costello
Bjork

Feel free to violently disagree or add further suggestions. :)

[April]

I have DVD's with Bjork interviews on them. In one of them, she speaks about how everything starts on an emotional level with her. So I'd peg her as an NF.

[melancholeric]

Lennon was probably INFP. Cobain was ISFP or INFP, can't say for sure. ( Somehow I pick an artisan vibe from him. ) Don't know about others.

[DevNull]

Thomas Dolby
Jimmy Pop Ali (Bloodhound Gang)
Nerfherder
Barenaked Ladies

[Hamro]

i have read that bjork was esfj. but she keeps sending these vibes of introversion and intelligence.

what about Craig Nicholls?

[Sir Isaac Lime]

Here's a few likely candidates I reckon...

Kurt Cobain

Feel free to violently disagree or add further suggestions. :)


I read that he was ISTP or something rather

[Serotonin]

Here's a few likely candidates I reckon...

Kurt Cobain
David Byrne
Brian Eno
Thurston Moore
John Lennon (?)
Elvis Costello
Bjork

Feel free to violently disagree or add further suggestions. :)

The Bjork = esfj was from a VI site somewhere. It's bullshit.

April will like this... I can't think of any other type she could be other than INFP.
Kurt Cobain was an INFP.
Elvis Costello I think is an ENFP.

I think David Byrne is the only one on that list who is possibly INTP. xNFP is much more common than xNTP among musicians I believe.

[j4ck]

Huh, I actually read Kurt Cobain was INTP...he did off himself, which should put him high in the running anyway.

[Serotonin]

Huh, I actually read Kurt Cobain was INTP...he did off himself, which should put him high in the running anyway.

Stand corrected. Reference please.

[j4ck]

Hmm, I am looking right now to see if I can find what I remember reading... He tests 5w4 (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:D0GeOOoB214J:www.geocities.com/lifexplore/enfame.htm+cobain+myers+briggs&hl=en&client=firefox-a) on the Enneagram, supposedly. I don't know much about Enneagram, but I think that means I was mistaken.

Edit: Serotonin's sig suggests 5w4<-->INTP ? Serotonin, ARE you Kurt Cobain? Weird...

[Serotonin]

Edit: Serotonin's sig suggests 5w4<-->INTP ? Serotonin, ARE you Kurt Cobain? Weird...

I would hope the sig doesn't suggest that at all. MBTI and Enneagram don't correlate perfectly.

Tom Condon pegs him as a 4w5 anyway. (http://www.thechangeworks.com/ennprimer/fineenn9styls1.html)

Peace, love, empathy,......???

Sounds NF to me.

[April]

The Bjork = esfj was from a VI site somewhere. It's bullshit.

April will like this... I can't think of any other type she could be other than INFP.
Kurt Cobain was an INFP.
Elvis Costello I think is an ENFP.

I think David Byrne is the only one on that list who is possibly INTP. xNFP is much more common than xNTP among musicians I believe.

Yes, that quite pleases me happppy I honestly just didn't want to claim a lot of people for "myself." But Kurt Cobain, Lennon, and Bjork are INFP's, I think.

[In...TP]

Growing up with The Beatles, I find them an interesting study in group dynamics.
Lennon: advocate, ENFP
McCartney: entertainer, ESFP
Harrison: serious,religious, ISFJ
Starr: happy go lucky, ISFP
I think under the stress of fame, Lennon wanted to change the world and McCartney wanted just to entertain the world with music.
I think their love for rock'n'roll brought them together, but fame, fortune, and psychological differences tore them apart.
As far as INTPs go... I'm still trying to figure that one out.
Next study, the Rolling Stones...

[glassmoon]

Is Marilyn Manson ISTP, or maybe ENTP?

[coffeezombie]

I've always thought Bob Dylan is an INTP.

[glassmoon]

I think Dylan is more F idealist.

Frank Zappa is INTP.

[coffeezombie]

I think Dylan is more F idealist.

Frank Zappa is INTP.

Dylan is much more T than Lennon or Cobain. Just because the guy lets some emotion come through doesn't make him an F. When can't INTPs be idealists?

[glassmoon]

Dylan is much more T than Lennon or Cobain. Just because the guy lets some emotion come through doesn't make him an F. When can't INTPs be idealists?Hmm, prob. This leaves only the S/N preference in question.

[In...TP]

They can, but not to the extent of NF's

[glassmoon]

They can, but not to the extent of NF's
I don't know many of his songs... but aren't they much more social criticism than personal feelings?

[sbw]

i have read that bjork was esfj. but she keeps sending these vibes of introversion and intelligence.

what about Craig Nicholls?

Craig Nicholls is just fucking crazy. I would guess ISFP, but his penchant for smoking more pot than god probably makes it more difficult to figure...but damn can the kid write a hook. If only he could put some non-stupid words with it, he might have something...

Scott

[sbw]

Hmm, prob. This leaves only the S/N preference in question.

There is no question in this fan's mind that the Bob is an N. I think the T/F distinction is most up in the air. Also, anyone else notice how almost everyone on our growing list fits into IXXP?

Scott

P. S. (just so I don't post 15 times, here's another) stephen malkmus (of pavement, the best band of the 90's) could possibly be an INTP. His lyrics have an off-kilter "intellectualism", for lack of a better term, and he seems to address romantic relationships in his songwriting through a more, umm, analytical lens than most.

[sbw]

Next study, the Rolling Stones...

Mick: ESTJ (consummate performer, attended LSE before joining band)

Keith: INFJ (just a guess; I have a bio in my house, but I've not read it yet)

obviously, those are the ones we all know about...but I'm thinking charlie watts could be either INFP or INTP, just a vibe I've gotten from reading interviews and hearing him talk...

Scott

[Last Song]

Any idea what Elliott Smith's type may have been?

[PonderBee]

Jim Morrison - INTP

[glassmoon]

Jim Morrison - INTP
I bet he's SP (mainly V.I.)...

How's about Leonard Coen? He could be INTP...

[melancholeric]

How about Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull? I don't have a clue.

[Voidoid]

i'd say Lennon was an INFP, judging from his music/lyrics, but take that with a grain of salt because all i've read about his actual life comes from various internet capsule biographies. as for Kurt Cobain, i'm gonna go with INTP. i read a Nirvana biography awhile back, i've seen/heard/read various interviews with the guy, and i get huge 5w4 INTP vibes.

tom waits, anyone? i haven't read much about him either, but he seems INTPish from the little that i have read.

[songbird36]

What about Warren Zevon? ISTP I'd say.

[Lilith]

This thread is from a while ago, but does anyone know Andrew Bird? Pretty darn INTP I would have to say.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnXCzFnkxtY

[metalight]

This guy is the first that spring to my mind.
Aphex Twin

[working title]

This dude:
Buckethead interview
Buckethead

[fduniho]

I have DVD's with Bjork interviews on them. In one of them, she speaks about how everything starts on an emotional level with her. So I'd peg her as an NF.

I would disagree. Yes, Björk expresses emotions in her music, but her expression of emotion strikes me as typical of an inferior feeling function, not a dominant feeling function. This is not a criticism of her in any way. We all have our inferior functions, my own being feeling too. But sometimes it takes one to know one, and that's where I'm going with this. As an INTP with an inferior feeling function, I have firsthand experience of what emotions are like with inferior feeling. Inferior feeling is more childlike and immature. It is harder to control, and when it expresses itself, it is more raw, honest, and authentic than dominant feeling. Björk comes across as very childlike. Her emotional expressions are simple, which stands in contrast to the otherwise complicated structure of her songs, and they break out of her in a raw form that feels honest and authentic.

Contrast Björk with Barry Manilow, who is probably an ESFJ. (As an aside, I HATE Barry Manilow!!! But I digress.) Barry Manilow's emotional expression is very smooth and controlled. He has a way of manipulating emotions that I find very uncomfortable, and it is hard for me to trust that the emotions he expresses are honest and genuine, because he plays his emotional expressions like he's playing a piano. It's eerie and sickening to me. But Björk is nothing like Barry Manilow. She sings in a raw manner with rough patches from emotions she can't fully control the expression of.

As an INTP myself, I recognize in Björk's music the same kinds of emotions I feel myself, not so in Barry Manilow's. Björk also comes across as very playful, spontaneous, imaginative, introverted, and intellectual -- a constellation of INTP qualities. One more thing I noticed today while watching some Björk interviews on youtube is that she looks sort of like me. There are differences, such as her gender, her slanted eyes, and her smaller nose, yet as I watched her, it was almost like looking at myself. I had the intuitive sense that I was looking at someone who is the same type as I am. So I believe she is an INTP.

[alienhated]

Is Marilyn Manson ISTP, or maybe ENTP?

I think he is INTP :s

buckethead seems too INTP

Trent Reznor ?

Ian Curtis?

billy Corgan?

nobuo uematsu?

[Llewellyn]

I would disagree. Yes, Bj&#246;rk expresses emotions in her music, but her expression of emotion strikes me as typical of an inferior feeling function, not a dominant feeling function. This is not a criticism of her in any way. We all have our inferior functions, my own being feeling too. But sometimes it takes one to know one, and that's where I'm going with this. As an INTP with an inferior feeling function, I have firsthand experience of what emotions are like with inferior feeling. Inferior feeling is more childlike and immature. It is harder to control, and when it expresses itself, it is more raw, honest, and authentic than dominant feeling. Bj&#246;rk comes across as very childlike. Her emotional expressions are simple, which stands in contrast to the otherwise complicated structure of her songs, and they break out of her in a raw form that feels honest and authentic.

Contrast Bj&#246;rk with Barry Manilow, who is probably an ESFJ. (As an aside, I HATE Barry Manilow!!! But I digress.) Barry Manilow's emotional expression is very smooth and controlled. He has a way of manipulating emotions that I find very uncomfortable, and it is hard for me to trust that the emotions he expresses are honest and genuine, because he plays his emotional expressions like he's playing a piano. It's eerie and sickening to me. But Bj&#246;rk is nothing like Barry Manilow. She sings in a raw manner with rough patches from emotions she can't fully control the expression of.

As an INTP myself, I recognize in Bj&#246;rk's music the same kinds of emotions I feel myself, not so in Barry Manilow's. Bj&#246;rk also comes across as very playful, spontaneous, imaginative, introverted, and intellectual -- a constellation of INTP qualities. One more thing I noticed today while watching some Bj&#246;rk interviews on youtube is that she looks sort of like me. There are differences, such as her gender, her slanted eyes, and her smaller nose, yet as I watched her, it was almost like looking at myself. I had the intuitive sense that I was looking at someone who is the same type as I am. So I believe she is an INTP.

It's difficult to analyze a famous person from a distance. Often one sees oneself in it (I think you do this as well). I don't think Bj&#246;rk is very intellectual. In another thread ("famous INTP singers", I guess) we came at IXFP as her type. In the interview mentioned there she herself a.o. said she could be all analytical about things. I think Fi can be 'analytical'. Her sometimes extravagant clothing would fit INFP. Her emotional 'childishness' would point to INTP again. She says she sometimes retreats and screams things out, and is then OK again. But how complex are things in reality, to just type them like this? I know I'm doing it, suggesting it.

I always imagine her line "Dinosaurs have always existed, they've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment" (something along those lines) as saying something about her.

About the ESFJ, she does have something extraverted about her. Icelanders have the name to be the most extraverted among Scandinavians (am I right?). So it could be a cultural influence. She is pretty serious... I think ISFP is a good possibility still, when I compare her 'sweet' talking with an ISFP friend of me, by way of speaking as if to a cute animal. She's just very playful. Playfulness of ISFP can account for the apparent extraversion.

Add: Thurston Moore had als ocrossed my mind as a possible INTP. Now you mention it. I don't think he is enough of a real thinker. He does seem clearly P.

[Mons]

As a group, I'd say that modern Tool is INTP.

[decades]

I think he is INTP :s

buckethead seems too INTP

Trent Reznor ?

Ian Curtis?

billy Corgan?

nobuo uematsu?

buckethead - ISTP

Reznor - INTJ

Curtis - probably INTP, maaaaaaybe J. Steve Morris seems very ENTP/INTP as well.

Corgan - more like INFJ.




Isaac Brock is probably the best example of an INTP musician that I can think of.

[augi55]

Is Marilyn Manson ISTP, or maybe ENTP?

No. No. Manson is definitely a feeler. I'd say INFJ, possibly INFP. More likely INFJ though. He's an Enneagram type 4.


Trent Reznor ?

INTJ no doubt.


As a group, I'd say that modern Tool is INTP.

The only INTP artist I know without a doubt is Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle.

It's the reason I connect so well to his lyrics and love Tool so much.

[alienhated]

manson is too much of a thinker to be a feeler, if you say that he is feeler you shouldn know him very well, and I know lots about...

[decades]

The only INTP artist I know without a doubt is Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle.

It's the reason I connect so well to his lyrics and love Tool so much.

Possibly INTP but also possibly INFJ or INTJ.


manson is too much of a thinker to be a feeler, if you say that he is feeler you shouldn know him very well, and I know lots about...

What's the deal with non native English speakers asserting that if you're thinking much at all, you're using Ti, and not Ni and/or Fi?

[augi55]

manson is too much of a thinker to be a feeler, if you say that he is feeler you shouldn know him very well, and I know lots about...

Wrong. Thinkers wouldn't make sure their makeup is on every time they go out in public. Thinkers wouldn't have as much emotion and hatred in their songs as feelers.

Just because someone thinks a lot doesn't mean they aren't a feeler. You may know a lot about Manson but you obviously don't know much about MBTI.


Possibly INTP but also possibly INFJ or INTJ.

I think Maynard's choice of lyrics definitely point to P rather than J. J's are much more direct in their lyrics, making sure what you get out of the song is what they want you do get, like Trent Reznor. Maynard is so abstract in his lyrics and allowing the listener to make their own decision on what the lyrics means definitely points to P. And I think T just because I've seen him live and he doesn't seem like a feeler performing. His thoughts remind me a lot of my own as well.

[alienhated]

[QUOTE
What's the deal with non native English speakers asserting that if you're thinking much at all, you're using Ti, and not Ni and/or Fi?[/QUOTE]

what?

[decades]

what?

read augi's post above.

[alienhated]

My Ti and Te are high and my Fi too and?

extraverted Sensing (Se) *********************** (23.8)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) *************************** (27.6)
average use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) **************************************** (40.7)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************* (37.6)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************************** (29.8)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ********************************************** (46.1)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ***** (5.4)
unused
introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************** (29.4)
average use

I just think that you are confined to stereotypes...

[The Unforgiven]

Cliff Burton, R.I.P

[xiao]

This thread is from a while ago, but does anyone know Andrew Bird? Pretty darn INTP I would have to say.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnXCzFnkxtY

Yeah, I was thinking Andrew Bird when I saw this thread.
And Thom Yorke. (First to come to mind)

[quantumzero]

Here's a few likely candidates I reckon...

Kurt Cobain
David Byrne
Brian Eno
Thurston Moore
John Lennon (?)
Elvis Costello
Bjork

Feel free to violently disagree or add further suggestions. :)

Van Morrison

[MacGuffin]

Wrong. Thinkers wouldn't make sure their makeup is on every time they go out in public. Thinkers wouldn't have as much emotion and hatred in their songs as feelers.

That's not always true.

[fripping]

Isaac Brock is probably the best example of an INTP musician that I can think of.

Van Morrison

oh come on. you really don't think he's an F?

[qsr]

I don't know what Maynard is but I love him. I think everyone wishes he was the INTP who actually made it in the mainstream.

David Byrne certainly acts like an INTP but I couldn't claim to be an expert on his music.

What about Sting? He wrote a song about stalking after all.

Neil Peart of Rush...?

[Last Song]

Kaki King?

[fduniho]

I think the band Yes may have several INTPs among its past and present membership. Their music seems to be largely in an NT vein. There is great emphasis in Yes on virtuoso playing (which suggests a T preference) but very little on emotional expression. Their songs tend to be surrealist sound paintings rather than simple love songs (which would be big among Fs) or protest songs (which would be big among NFs). Their music often sounds as otherworldly as the paintings Roger Dean sometimes drew for their album covers (which suggests an N preference). In light of augi55's comments on how Js and Ps write lyrics, the lyrics of Yes suggest a strong P preference. Most of their lyrics are impressionistic without a clear meaning behind them. I have listened to Yes for many years and still don't know what most of their songs are about. One more specifically INTP quality of their music is that it has a very architectural quality. Keirsey has called the INTP the Architect, and the members of Yes have created sonic architecture with their music. In some ways, it is a progressive rock precursor of ambient music. It's harder to pick out the individual members who may be INTPs. Steve Howe is probably the main one I would consider an INTP. Maybe some of the other core members, such as Jon Anderson and Chris Squire. Rick Wakeman looks more like an ENTP to me. I think Bill Bruford is more likely an INTP than Alan White is, given that Bruford has continually studied music composition, and White seems to have left most compositional responsibilities to other members while focusing on drumming. Trevor Rabin might be a J, since his lyrics are less ambiguous than most Yes lyrics, and Yes had more of a military precision sound when he was in the band. Compare Rhythm of Love (a Rabin song) with Close to the Edge (an Anderson/Howe song).

[Adymus]

i have read that bjork was esfj.

No fucking way, that's just not possible.

[DennisThePenetrator]

Robert Fripp is INTP

[Llewellyn]

I have to mention my old long-time love R.E.M.

Guesses of types:
Michael Stipe - INTP (look at his lyrics, a score for INTP)
Peter Buck - ENTJ
Mike Mills - ESTP
Bill Berry - ISTJ (or -P)

[Scarecrow]

Bj&#246;rk is so not INTP.

Dylan's lyrics are very INTP. Even some Death Cab for Cutie lyrics are INTP. In general, I would say that you can't type musicians, since musicians are mostly insane multi-personality nutcases.

[fduniho]

Björk is so not INTP.

Please elaborate.

[Scarecrow]

Bjork is an overrated lunatic who confuses description of bad acid trips with art.

Edit: My humble opinion.

[Llewellyn]

Bjork is an overrated lunatic who confuses description of bad acid trips with art.

Edit: My humble opinion.

Lunatic yeah. Overrated no. And: ISFP (I guess, there are parallells with INTP).

[Last Song]

Björk is so not INTP.

Dylan's lyrics are very INTP. Even some Death Cab for Cutie lyrics are INTP. In general, I would say that you can't type musicians, since musicians are mostly insane multi-personality nutcases.


Please elaborate.


I dislike Björk's music.

Fantastic.

[Llewellyn]

The only INTP artist I know without a doubt is Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle.

It's the reason I connect so well to his lyrics and love Tool so much.

Thanks for the Tool tip (hehe). I never picked up on them in the past, but I just listened to "Sober" and pretty much like it.

[fduniho]

Bjork is an overrated lunatic who confuses description of bad acid trips with art.

Björk is a musical genius.:wub: I suppose there may be a psychedelic quality to her music, but I consider that a good thing. Some of my favorite bands, such as Yes and Tangerine Dream, have done psychedelic music, and of all the forms of electronic dance music, I prefer psy trance.

[HerExcellency]

Bjork


No way, Bjork is definitely an NF, and probably introverted as well.
I read somewhere that when she recorded a song with Thom Yorke (from Radiohead) she moved him to tears, but told him to stop and not to use up that emotion now; that it was selfish to keep it to himself, and urged him to save it all for his vocal performance.

[DennisThePenetrator]

Bjork is an overrated lunatic who confuses description of bad acid trips with art.

Edit: My humble opinion.

lol if you think Bjork's music is just a bad acid trip you must have a small record collection. The melodical techniques in her music are nothing short of exceptional. I also think she's INFP.

[The Unforgiven]

anyone know Avenged Sevenfold? i think their drummer The Rev (Jimmy Sullivan)

a member of System of a Down possibly (Daron Malkian)

[Mons]

Robert Fripp is INTP

Most definitely.

[euterpenc]

Maybe Maynard vs. Reznor is a good example of INTP vs. INTJ.

If we look at the lyrics and attitudes on the Feeling level, Maynard's anger seems to be more rooted in some sort of objective morals, or what he sees to be such. Reznor seems to lack this, and is rather angry because something happened to him.

Maynard: consider Opiate as an album, The Pot, Vicarious... etc. The criticism seems to be on principle. Blind following is bad in principle, as is censorship, and living ignorant of onself through others (all over-simplified I'm sure).

Reznor: consider Pretty Hate machine as an album, so much of it is "you did this to ME." So much of his feeling of value seems inward directed, especially in the form of apparent self-hatred. Reznor is also noticeably resentful on a lot of tracks, while Maynard has only one that is outright resentful (Prison Sex).

All of this maybe too simple and, of course, an outsider perspective.

Edit/Note: I am examining Fe vs. Fi here.

[Faust06]

The closest ones I can think of:

Robert Fripp - INTP
Frank Zappa - ISTP
Allan Holdsworth - INTP definitely
Steve Morse - InTj
John Zorn - INTP?? maybe ISTP, or J.. hell, I don't know
Mikael Akerfeldt - iNTP (both in personality and his music.. check out Opeth)
Joni Mitchell - InfP
Jimmy Page - iNTp
Kristoffer Rygg (Garm) - INTP (very INTP music, I think.. but I haven't heard or seen him speak much at all)
Kevin Moore (ex-Dream Theater) - INfP
John Petrucci - inTP
Ian Thornley - enTP
Nick Drake - INFp
Dennis D'Amour (ex-Voivod, rip) - INTp

[Last Song]

Frank Zappa as ISTP? Interesting.

I'll pay more attention.

[The Unforgiven]

mikael akerfeldt is great, you may be right

[Faust06]

Frank Zappa as ISTP? Interesting.

I'll pay more attention.

That's my best guess. In any case he's introverted, a pure thinker, a workaholic, his guitar playing is more intuitive but his composition I'm not sure.. it is however sometimes pretty complex and out there.

[Last Song]

Have you also watched interviews? There are heaps on youtube.

[DennisThePenetrator]

Zappa's music sounds like an NT creation but who knows. I think he's probably INTJ.

[Bassliner]

Brian Wilson?

[augi55]

Thanks for the Tool tip (hehe). I never picked up on them in the past, but I just listened to "Sober" and pretty much like it.

Try the songs Lateralus and Aenima now and see what you think.

[Lauren Ashley]

No way, Bjork is definitely an NF, and probably introverted as well.
I read somewhere that when she recorded a song with Thom Yorke (from Radiohead) she moved him to tears, but told him to stop and not to use up that emotion now; that it was selfish to keep it to himself, and urged him to save it all for his vocal performance.

INFP ftw.

[Llewellyn]

Try the songs Lateralus and Aenima now and see what you think.

I've heard the songs and seen what I thought ;) No, Aenima was impressive, musically, and for its strength. But it's not yet convincing me... (I'm more into Lais, Fotheringay right now --> folk stuff).

[Adymus]

BT seems to be more than likely an INTP

[fduniho]

BT seems to be more than likely an INTP

Coincidentally, I was watching a bunch of BT videos on YouTube today. Well, I watched some and just listened to others, because I was interested in hearing This Binary Universe, and all the songs from it were on YouTube. I should actually go back and watch the videos. Anyway, I don't really know a lot about BT except that I like his music and he loves his daughter. Why do you think he may be an INTP?

[Adymus]

Coincidentally, I was watching a bunch of BT videos on YouTube today. Well, I watched some and just listened to others, because I was interested in hearing This Binary Universe, and all the songs from it were on YouTube. I should actually go back and watch the videos. Anyway, I don't really know a lot about BT except that I like his music and he loves his daughter. Why do you think he may be an INTP?

I have seen him speak in interviews, and the way he equates the cerebral experience of electronic music and raves with the Shamanistic experience of a tribal ritual seemed very Ne. The guy is also a genious when it comes to assimilating cutting edge technology, and understanding electronics and programming so he can apply it to his music (Ti).
So I'd wager INTP or ENTP, but he doesn't seem to string his thoughts into words as fluently as ENTPs usually can, so I lean toward INTP.

[mthomps]

I've seen on the web that Frank Zappa was an ISTP, but I disagree with that. Frank's music is 90% of what I listen to. I also have read, listened, and watched a great deal of content regarding his views and philosphies on music, sociology and politics.

I'm very sure he was an INTP. Most people do not realize how well he understood music. I'm willing to go out on a limb and say he understood the way it worked, from dots on paper to the concept of tension and resolution through organized sound, better than anyone. Yep. The things he says and the way he explains them, also his lifestyle, bleeeeed NT.

There is an interview with him conducted by Bob Marshall on the web. Reading that interview helped shape my current perspective on everything.

[DennisThePenetrator]

I'm quite certain that Cedric Bixler-Zavala (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rorXgZVqfCs) from The Mars Volta is INTP.

[outmywindow]

And Thom Yorke. (First to come to mind)
Dunno, Thom Yorke strikes me as an INFP. Then again, I don't really care what his type is, so long as he keeps producing orgasmically good music.

[The Unforgiven]

I'm quite certain that Cedric Bixler-Zavala (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rorXgZVqfCs) from The Mars Volta is INTP.

definately. what do you think Omar is?

[DennisThePenetrator]

definately. what do you think Omar is?

INTJ. Incredibly intellectual and logical but he must have 1000000% J. He's a workaholic in the constant mode of writing, performing, and essentially leading and controlling all of his projects. He's process orientated and will go out of his way to do anything he wants. He can also explain himself extremely well.

[Roger Mexico]

A while back on either this forum or MBTIc there were a lot of references going around to Ludacris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPfmcGP1kLs) being an INTP.

I could see that, mainly since he has a very adept and technical command of language, and likes to play with semantics to make clever intuitive connections. Such as: "Why do you think you take a ho to a ho-tel?"

[The Unforgiven]

INTJ. Incredibly intellectual and logical but he must have 1000000% J. He's a workaholic in the constant mode of writing, performing, and essentially leading and controlling all of his projects. He's process orientated and will go out of his way to do anything he wants. He can also explain himself extremely well.

Lethal Combination....

[Ghost-Girl]

Andrew Bird? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnXCzFnkxtY)

[kali]

Andrew Bird? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnXCzFnkxtY)I'd be Andrew Bird's bird. He is ineffably amazing.

He gives off an F vibe to me.



A while back on either this forum or MBTIc there were a lot of references going around to Ludacris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPfmcGP1kLs) being an INTP.

I could see that, mainly since he has a very adept and technical command of language, and likes to play with semantics to make clever intuitive connections. Such as: "Why do you think you take a ho to a ho-tel?"
Don't forget "It's a ho wide world... that we're livin' in".

Not to mention his skilled grasp on slang, which perfectly captures the adolescent context of our time. Yous a ho, indeed.

[mildchild]

love andrew bird. don't know about intp, but pretty sure he's Ni.

[YHWH]

A while back on either this forum or MBTIc there were a lot of references going around to Ludacris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPfmcGP1kLs) being an INTP.

I could see that, mainly since he has a very adept and technical command of language, and likes to play with semantics to make clever intuitive connections. Such as: "Why do you think you take a ho to a ho-tel?"

Hmm yeah, genius.

[The Unforgiven]

Arif Mirabdolbaghi, Bass Player from Protest The Hero is an INTP...
(the one with the afro)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ2tWdyiCdk

http://headbangersblog.mtv.com/2009/02/27/random-shuffle-your-ipod-is-showing-protest-the-hero-bassist-arif-mirabdolbaghi/

[The Unforgiven]

Rick Rubin

[bass_n_treble]

Rivers Cuomo, Weezer INTP
Ric Ocasek, Cars INTP
Kurt Cobain ISFP
Eddie Vedder ESFP
Freddie Mercury ESFJ
Sting INFJ
Bono ENFJ
The Edge INTP
Robert Plant ESFP
Jimmy Page ISFP

You can't be serious about Ludacris having command of the English language.... lol

[The Unforgiven]

hahahahaha....i don't even know who ludachris is......

Rivers Cuomo Definately....not so sure about The Edge though...

[dynamiteninja]

Rivers Cuomo, Weezer INTP
Ric Ocasek, Cars INTP
Kurt Cobain ISFP
Eddie Vedder ESFP
Freddie Mercury ESFJ
Sting INFJ
Bono ENFJ
The Edge INTP
Robert Plant ESFP
Jimmy Page ISFP

Kurt Cobain: INFP

Bono yes.

[xiao]

Dunno, Thom Yorke strikes me as an INFP. Then again, I don't really care what his type is, so long as he keeps producing orgasmically good music.

I think you're right, actually. (On both points :grin: )

[Adymus]

Future Sound of London (Garry Cobain, specifically)
Autechre (Sean Booth)
Boom Jinx
Genesis P. Orridge (Edit: On second thought , s/he could be INFP)

I shouldn't come to a surprise that a lot of electronic music artists are INTPs.

[Adymus]

*woops double post

[teleforce]

Brian Wilson?

i'd say there's a good chance. to me, he gives off that INTP "vibe" in an 1976 interview on the mike douglas show in which he talks very intelligently and precisely about his drug use and feelings towards drugs (can't post the link, but you can find it easily on youtube)

[ryan_m_parr]

To the previous:

Yes, Brian Wilson's brother was Dennis Wilson. Dennis befriended Charles Manson, who invariably must have been drug buddies knowing what led up to the massacres. Not that what I'm saying has anything at all to do with being an INTP, only I can imagine the Beach Boy's Producer talking about drugs.

[profound420]

James Taylor is INFP

[ciphersort]

Alex Patterson of the Orb possibly.

[Furtive]

I think Dylan is more F idealist.

Frank Zappa is INTP.

While I never got into Frank's music, he is a deity in terms of standing up to all the PMRC bullshit, his perfectionist abilities at being a bandleader, and coming up with this quote:

"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST..."

Fucking A right.

Oh yeah, and he rescued the red Stratocaster that Jimi sacrificed at 1967's Montery Pop Festival.

[The Unforgiven]

Anders Frieden from In Flames an INTP

[anthonydean]

Brian May (Queen)

[Opeth]

I don't know about INTP musicians as individuals, but i'd say almost every technical metal band could be INTPish.
Spiral Architect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0a1FXBmmw
Behold... The Arctopus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZipRrVxQI
Canvas Solaris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dSuMaKR4Q

Cynic, Atheist and more...
And yeah, i'd also classify Dream Theater's and Aphex Twin's music as INTPish.

[The Unforgiven]

i would say that Athiest, Cynic etc would be INTP

and Meshuggah, Necrophagist etc would be INTJ

i think that the jazzier death metal would be INTP as opposed to the more "Mechanical" stuff like Daath, Mnemic, Meshuggah would be INTJ.

i also think Chuck Schuldiner from Death is INFP.

[The Unforgiven]

...and Daron Malakian is 100&#37; INTP, no doubt.

[Animus]

I want to say that The Faceless is an INTP death metal band. Especially in their recent album, Planetary Duality.

[glitch]

How do you guys know for certain someone is an INTP is there a database or something I'm missing?

[Last Song]

There is a database.

[LaeroProcni]

HI! I'm a musician. The only problem is i can't commit to the material. Or being a musician. So I dunno, intp musician? Pretty rare I would think. Expecially one you've heard of.

[Roger Mexico]

Hmm yeah, genius.

Didn't say you had to like it. And maybe not the most impressive example, you're right, but I was trying to make my point accessible to those who aren't familiar with his music.

I actually think the song is rather brilliant if you pick up on the tongue-in-cheek subtext, which is true of a lot of his music, IMO.

[Opeth]

i would say that Athiest, Cynic etc would be INTP

and Meshuggah, Necrophagist etc would be INTJ

i think that the jazzier death metal would be INTP as opposed to the more "Mechanical" stuff like Daath, Mnemic, Meshuggah would be INTJ.


Yeah, I agree. That probably explains why i like so much bands like Atheist/Cynic/Death/Spiral Architect but don't like Necrophagist and Daath, and can't stand Meshuggah. Their music is way to repititive to me.

[The Unforgiven]

Ben Weinman from The Dillinger Escape Plan

[Technical]

If these have been mentioned (even by myself), sorry:

Paul Banks of Interpol
Andy Summers of The Police

[Managarmr]

I like the idea of Mikael Akerfeldt. I hadn't really thought about him before.

What about Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree? John McCrea from Cake seems like a possibility too.

[Llewellyn]

I was looking for Natalie Merchant's type. I think she's amazing. First I guessed INFP, then ISFP, but I could also get she was a thinker. Then I found this on a forum that also lists some other potential INTP musicians (of which I don't know much, even less than of Natalie Merchant):



Natalie Merchant 5w4 INTP
Jarvis Cocker 5W6 INTP
Robert Pollard 5w4 INTP
Elvis Costello 5w4 INTP
(http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/FORUM/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12442&whichpage=4)


Edit: I've watched the 10,000 Maniacs DVD again, and considering her lyrics and the character of the videos I am thinking Natalie Merchant is ISTP (A very good example of it). Then again, I'm not good at this, and how important is it... Anyway, it's fun to think about.

[teleforce]

this is the interview i was talking about before. does he sound like an INTP to you?

Brian Wilson

[Corbin]

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But more seriously, I think the lead singer from The Bloodhound Gang (I forget his name) is an INTP.