Need data please

[BAJ]

No more emoticons.

All I want is a list of six mafia.

From everyone.

No poll.



Like this:
Rhu, Augi55, Avolkit, Rajah, Manzanita, Wolfblood


I don't want an essay (or emoticons) from my list of suspects. All I want is a list of six people. You are not mafia? Fine don't include your name in your list.

No more manipulation and confusion. All I want is a list. I have analyzed the possible strategies the mafia can employ with such a database. There are four main strategies, but even so, if everyone enters a simple record, then the mafia is in big trouble.

Thus, the first strategy is Omerta. The code of silence. Now that I've said this, then the mafia may be encouraged to post their own lists. I hope everyone does. Thus it may be more effective.

Are you concerned you fingering the mafia will lead to your demise? Don't worry, if your team wins, you win (including our bereaved member, Limey).


If you can't post six names here, then PM. It will not be as effective, but still useful. We can discuss later. All I need are six names.

I don't trust anyone. No one.

I just want data.

[Autumn]

I would like to see your list first. Or was that not just an example?

Townies desperately need information, I agree.
So here is mine:

Mafia:
OMW, Eye-In-TiPi, Ape, aelan, Works, Janeway(?)

[BAJ]

I would like to see your list first. Or was that not just an example?

Townies desperately need information, I agree.
So here is mine:

Mafia:
OMW, Eye-In-TiPi, Ape, aelan, Works, Janeway(?)



That was my actual current list subject to change.


That brings up an important point. If you change your mind, then post the change.

[aelan]

I'm only confident of works.

[Madrigal]

Works
OMW
Avolk
Ape
LastRailway
2ds


(In order of who I'm more suspicious of.)

[Corbin]

BAJ,BAJ,BAJ,BAJ,BAJ,BAJ

[BAJ]

Ah, I hope I get killed at this point. I'm hoping I get killed in real life too. I'm thinking of driving to a populated area start insulting people in a bad neighborhood.

[ApeTheDog]

Works, Madrigal, 2ds, OWM, Rhu, manzanita

[LastRailway]

Subject to change:

avolkiteshvara, manzanita, OMW, Rajah, RinconSB, Works

(alphabetical order)

[manza]

WTF?

If I had to name the six most suspicious (alphabetically):

Ape, Avolk, LastRailway, OMW, Rajah, Works.

But I want to see what happens tonight.

[Rajah]

OMW, avolketishvara, Rhu, BAJ, 2ds, ape

First three in order; some flexibility on the last three

[Autumn]

OMW, avolketishvara, Rhu, BAJ, 2ds, ape

First three in order; some flexibility on the last three

Heh, what did avolketishvara ever do? :ph34r:

[Rajah]

Heh, what did avolketishvara ever do? :ph34r:Acted suspiciously. :ph34r:


/Ne

[Madrigal]

OMW, avolketishvara, Rhu, BAJ, 2ds, ape

First three in order; some flexibility on the last three

:stupid:

I can even accept your omission of Works... but adding BAJ?!!

I change my list:

Works
OMW
Avolk
Ape
LastRailway
2ds
Rajah


I really fear the mafia may have snatched you up after all. They were not stupid. You didn't win the Strongest Member award for nothing, Miss Kung Fu Master.

[BAJ]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/Untitled_2.jpg



This is sort of raw data so far.

I did not include madrigal's change.


The blue line indicates how many suspect them. The maroon line is high if they did not vote.

As I said, I suspect people who don't vote, and the "more suspected" people on average are generally more likely.

Yet, quite a lot of people have not yet given data. Either they are not involved with the game much, or highly likely to be mafia.

Edit: According to this data alone, my opinion of the most likely mafia is:

(2ds, avl, eye, omw, rhu, works)

Meanwhile, my alternates might be augi55, rajah, and wolfblood.

If the maroon lines drop to zero, then I will do a different kind of analysis on it.

[augi55]

You're suspecting people for not telling your suspective ass who they suspect.

Brilliant.

[BAJ]

You're suspecting people for not telling your suspective ass who they suspect.

Brilliant.



Love your signature. I always say something similar.

If I get killed today (and you are townie), just think about this strategy and how it may help the town.

When we get data for everyone, then I'll put different layers of analysis.

Peace, Brother.


:stupid:

I can even accept your omission of Works... but adding BAJ?!!

.


It's fine. I put her in my list. Why can she do the same?

Townies: compare the data with the voting patterns for the execution.

[Rincon]

Here's my current guesses:

Likely mafia = {2ds, avolk, OMW, Rahja, Rhu, works}

Likely townies = {Aelan, BAJ, LR, Madrigal, RinconSB}

unsure = {Ape, Augi, Autumn, Eye, Jug, Jenway, Manza, Sandwich, woolf}

[augi55]

Love your signature. I always say something similar.

If I get killed today (and you are townie), just think about this strategy and how it may help the town.

When we get data for everyone, then I'll put different layers of analysis.

Peace, Brother.

Do you have reason to suspect you will be killed today?

Fine why not? Everyone else is: My top suspects in no particular order are OMW, Rhu, Avolk, 2ds, Ape, and Eye.

[BAJ]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/Untitled_3.jpg


Keep in mind that the mafia can be extra clever. However, if they do all post, then I start doing a different kind of analysis based on the four main strategies they can use to try and screw up my data.

So STILL, although some may have posted data, they are still in trouble from this analysis.

Yet, if they post, then I'll start with another kind of analysis.

[Oso Mocoso]

How come no one ever accuses Janeway of being Mafia?

[Rincon]

How come no one ever accuses Janeway of being Mafia?

Accusing and suspecting are two different things...

[Rajah]

I can even accept your omission of Works... but adding BAJ?!! Is there a reason I shouldn't suspect BAJ?!?

[BAJ]

How come no one ever accuses Janeway of being Mafia?



Oh, he's been suspected. If so, I think he is low in their organization, and not their leader. Pokemon is not very dangerous.

There are three strategies the mafia could employ in voting for the execution. The best strategy is to not vote, and say, "Oh, I forgot", or "I was too busy."

I am aware most have lives and I do not, but people had many hours to vote. Many hours. They could have voted last night or during the day. Rajah is much too smart to claim she didn't know how to vote. I think. However, she could still be townsfolk.

However, other non-voters are jughead, Janwey, Wolfblood, and Sandwich. The non-voters jughead, Janwey, and Wolfblood also provided no data for this database, so they are suspected for this reason. Sandwich did provide data, but she is still a suspect. Almost everyone is.

The other suspected members of the mafia voted in the execution directly according to the other two strategies the mafia could execute. They voted exactly as I expected them to do...unless one actually voted for works, which would have been bad for them in another way.

[Rhu]

Is there a reason I shouldn't suspect BAJ?!?
Would a mafia member put in this much analysis without some giant holes in the analytical methodology that would lend doubt to its credibility?

For what it's worth, you just made my personal list of suspects, Rajah.

[Rajah]

Would a mafia member put in this much analysis without some giant holes in the analytical methodology that would lend doubt to its credibility?

For what it's worth, you just made my personal list of suspects, Rajah.You've been on my list, Rhu. You're on notice.







Okay, you might have a good point about this BAJ thing. But if I were a mafia member, I'd make one of these types of threads too. Which is why I'm suspicious.

[2ds]

My Mafia suspects are BAJ, BAJ, BAJ, BAJ and BAJ :p

[BAJ]

My Mafia suspects are BAJ, BAJ, BAJ, BAJ and BAJ :p

Very interesting.

This is good information.

I still want to know what YOUR other picks are.

Rhu's as well. That would be very helpful.

The mafia have no need to make a database. That much is obvious. Besides...build a database? I believe they are having trouble deciding who to kill, a much simpler task. They don't have time to make spreadsheets. Plus all that time cutting up newspapers and making a note. Where do they have time?

[2ds]

Very interesting.

This is good information.

I still want to know what YOUR other picks are.

Rhu's as well. That would be very helpful.

The mafia have no need to make a database. That much is obvious. Besides...build a database? I believe they are having trouble deciding who to kill, a much simpler task. They don't have time to make spreadsheets. Plus all that time cutting up newspapers and making a note. Where do they have time?

And by starting a database you can put yourself above suspicion and pick off the people who have the most correct guesses mr mafioso. I wont contribute any meaningful data to your ploy

[Oso Mocoso]

In Jughead's defense, the reason she didn't vote was that for the 24 hours she could have voted she didn't have access to the Internet because she was traveling from India to the U.S. She ought to have normal access to a computer again on Monday, I think.

[avolkiteshvara]

Why is everyone voting for me? I haven't said shit. I also said from the very start of the game I didn't want to put a lot of effort into it.

So lets read the tea leaves:

Aelan - works, avolkiteshvara, OMW, RinconSB
Avolkiteshvara - Eye-in-Tipi
Madrigal - 2ds
OMW - Rhu
works - aelan, BAJ, Madrigal, Augi55, manzanita, LastRailway, Autumn, ApetheDog

Didn't vote: Jughead, Janeway, Rajah, Wolfblood, Sandwich


Obviously everyone that voted for works is a townie. I don't think mafia would canibalize.

By that same token we can look at the voting pattern of everyone that didn't vote works. I have some thoughts.

1. We can look at the blocks of votes and assume people that voted Aelan or that didn't vote at all are mafia.

2. The theory which I subscribe to because I know I am not mafia, is that mafia votes were dispersed in an attempt to not show any type of voting pattern. If that is the case then most of the people voting aelan or didn't vote are townies and the one offs like 2ds, Rhu, and Eye nTipi are the mafia.

Anyhow discuss. We should try explore 2. hypothesis next round. If that turns out false then we know it is hypothesis #1. But I am really a townie. Don't hold it against me aelan.

[outmywindow]

Heh, this is hilarious.

Anyway, here's my list:
-Autumn
-Janeway
-2ds
-Rajah
-BAJ
-Rhu
-aelan

[aelan]

Why is everyone voting for me? I haven't said shit. I also said from the very start of the game I didn't want to put a lot of effort into it.

So lets read the tea leaves:

Aelan - works, avolkiteshvara, OMW, RinconSB
Avolkiteshvara - Eye-in-Tipi
Madrigal - 2ds
OMW - Rhu
works - aelan, BAJ, Madrigal, Augi55, manzanita, LastRailway, Autumn, ApetheDog

Didn't vote: Jughead, Janeway, Rajah, Wolfblood, Sandwich


Obviously everyone that voted for works is a townie. I don't think mafia would canibalize.

I'm not holding anything against you, I'm just working on probability when I asked people to vote for Works. This was the voting pattern we needed to see, in a way.

Disagree with the bold. Of those who voted for Works, I suspect at least one is mafia. They had to cannibalise one of their own, and throw their remaining votes to hide. Some townies are too suspicious but I cannot blame them. I find it hard to explain Ne.

I didn't expect people could not vote though.

Working on probability, assuming M = mafia, T = townie:

Scenario 1:
a) Of those who voted works, at least one is mafia: 1M 7T
b) Works himself: 1M
c) Of those who voted singly (2ds, Rhu, Eye), at least one of you has to be mafia: 1M 2T
d) Of those who voted aelan, at least one mafia: 1M 3T
e) Of those who didn't vote, it means there's probably 2 mafia there (assuming 6-7 mafiaso): 2M 3T. <- i have difficulty with this because Jughead and Wolf have not posted at all and have not voted at all. I know Jug is travelling but I wonder on Wolf.

Total = 6M 15T


The mafia are not likely to have two persons voting for me, it'd be too much of a tell. This means that avolkit, OMW and likely Rincon are townies.

Scenario 2: There is one other mafia in a, c, and one less/same number in e.

Has the detective taken a turn? If he/she hasn't, I've a suspect I need to verify.

[Rajah]

In Jughead's defense, the reason she didn't vote was that for the 24 hours she could have voted she didn't have access to the Internet because she was traveling from India to the U.S. She ought to have normal access to a computer again on Monday, I think.
And in my defense, the reason my vote was late is because I've only been on the forums sporadically and, more so, I am disinclined to scroll through for the rules. My son is in town, and we had a mommy/Lurker/son night at the high-falutin' Shoney's. Two nights in a row. :wub:

And bloody hell, I tried to vote.

[avolkiteshvara]

They had to cannibalise one of their own, and throw their remaining votes to hide.

So you think they are trying to set up a mole?

Seems too early in the game for such a strategy.

If mafioso did vote for other without a unanimous consultation, there is going to be some disention within their ranks also.

[elfinchilde]

you townies do have the option to co-opt a mafia, you know. just sayin'. :whistle:

avol, how did you choose your screen name? :wave:

[avolkiteshvara]

avol, how did you choose your screen name? :wave:

Just a nick I've been using for a decade or so. Got it from an art history class I took.

[elfinchilde]

^ cos I was wondering if it's a diminutive or mispelling of avalokiteshvara, which is the sanskrit name for the bodhisattva of compassion/mercy. :huh:

and just a curiosity: can you actually pronounce it? :grin:

[avolkiteshvara]

One in the same. Although it is possible my spelling is off. Its possible I tried to use avalokiteshvara and it was taken so I used avolkiteshvara and just stuck with it.

But no, no compassion or mercy inherent within this elightened being.

[aelan]

you townies do have the option to co-opt a mafia, you know. just sayin'. :whistle:

avol, how did you choose your screen name? :wave:

don't think I haven't thought of that. :grin:

[BAJ]

Okay, avolkit, Rhu, and others, what are your six picks, please?

[aelan]

BAJ:

1. Works
2. Rajah

[LastRailway]

Subject to change:

avolkiteshvara, manzanita, OMW, Rajah, RinconSB, Works

(alphabetical order)

New list:

avolkiteshvara +
Madrigal ++++
manzanita +
OMW +++
Rajah +++
(Works) +++++

+ in relation to how much I suspect them. 5 + for Works who we know he was a Mafia and 1 + for avolks and manza, that we have no data about them other than the fact they don't participate too much on the conversations but they do vote, which could be a sign that they're low profile Mafias

[pocohauntus]

My list:
aelan, Madrigal, Wolfblood

[LastRailway]

My list:
aelan, Madrigal, Wolfblood

No play, no list :P

[BAJ]

The newest graph...

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/Untitled_5.jpg


Well it's been a while since I had fun like this. I guess I like making graphs.

There's enough contradictory information to suspect almost anyone. Everyone is still suspect.

The data is very curious. I think the mafia are being clever.

I think low key members of the mafia are laughing their butts off, as well as some people who know they are not mafia, but are highly suspected.

To increase the entertainment value, I suggest the mafia kill a towns folk who is highly suspect...maybe OMW, if she is not mafia herself. This would be the most amusing avenue.

If the mafia really wants to confuse us, they should kill a low key member. I suspect two people of being the detective, but since the detective is silent or hasn't contacted the undergound, I'm not sure. The detective could be almost anyone.

Of course, I think the mafia will kill someone who is really thinking clearly among the townsfolk, and make the rest of the townsfolk be more timid.

The most dangerous strategy would be for them to select townsfolk with dice or random number generator.

And I hope they explain which strategies they used in the end.

On the townsfolk side, I don't think we can afford to kill randomly.

Okay, end of public discussion...

:/to the underground bunker...

Edit: What would really be funny would be to see the spider web of who suspects who. It looks like those paranoid schizophrenic yarn webs from the "Beautiful Mind" movie.

:rofl:

[LastRailway]

The data is quite curious - in fact I don't think it will ever get to be very helpful since there are several major groups here:

-The anti-aelan anti-Madrigal front, who could be composed either by Mafia or townies or a mixture

-The anti-OMW, anti-Rhu and anti-Rajah front, who is more likely to be composed by townies that suspect their behaviour (though, in fact, Rhu hasn't displayed any behaviour to suspect of)

-The anti-avolks, anti-manza front, to which I temporarily subscribe myself too, mainly cause they do not participate in any of the public conversations and do not share their reasons for voting whoever they are voting.

I find myself less and less confident on that any of these groups is worth considering, in fact. My previous suspicions of OMW have weakened, and, depending on who dies today I'll try to decide if I suspect more Madrigal, or Rajah or another member.

[BAJ]

I find myself less and less confident on that any of these groups is worth considering, in fact. My previous suspicions of OMW have weakened, and, depending on who dies today I'll try to decide if I suspect more Madrigal, or Rajah or another member.



Yeah, I have received contradictory information...not just from the data. Someone is (I believe) pulling off a major con. We can't decide who to kill until the mafia kill one of us, and they are taking their sweet bee-jesus time about it. It's as if we killed works...their main strategist, and now they can't decide. Quick, who are the most perceiving members among the suspects? We can solve this using type theory! 'course, they could also just enjoy making us suffer. They are probably slowly torturing one of us to death...maybe the detective...or torturing to find out information...or just because they enjoy it.

[LastRailway]

Yeah, I have received contradictory information...not just from the data. Someone is (I believe) pulling off a major con. We can't decide who to kill until the mafia kill one of us, and they are taking their sweet bee-jesus time about it. It's as if we killed works...their main strategist, and now they can't decide. Quick, who are the most perceiving members among the suspects? We can solve this using type theory! 'course, they could also just enjoy making us suffer. They are probably slowly torturing one of us to death...maybe the detective...or torturing to find out information...or just because they enjoy it.

Or maybe they live in a timezone where now it's Sunday, 9.00 AM, namely USA :P

[Autumn]

Heh, this is hilarious.

Anyway, here's my list:
-Autumn
-Janeway
-2ds
-Rajah
-BAJ
-Rhu
-aelan

Woohoo. I've been suspected at last :bigguns: It's been like I was the invisible man.... Then again, being suspected by OMW is like possessing a certificate that I'm townie (I guess).


I suspect two people of being the detective, but since the detective is silent or hasn't contacted the undergound, I'm not sure.

Wait! We have an underground? Tell me more about it! Please, someone spare me a PM?


Or maybe they live in a timezone where now it's Sunday, 9.00 AM, namely USA :P

Btw, my son is 1 year old this weekend. Relatives are swarming the place. I don't know when I can be around today....

[aelan]

Yeah, I have received contradictory information...not just from the data. Someone is (I believe) pulling off a major con. We can't decide who to kill until the mafia kill one of us, and they are taking their sweet bee-jesus time about it. It's as if we killed works...their main strategist, and now they can't decide. Quick, who are the most perceiving members among the suspects? We can solve this using type theory! 'course, they could also just enjoy making us suffer. They are probably slowly torturing one of us to death...maybe the detective...or torturing to find out information...or just because they enjoy it.


Agreed. Of the 8 who voted for Works (aelan, BAJ, Madrigal, Augi55, manzanita, LastRailway, Autumn, ApetheDog), there is at least one mafia there. It is the only way the math works out. http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=1035775&postcount=33

However, there is likely at least 1 mafia or two, among the list who did not vote (Jughead, Janeway, Rajah, Wolfblood, Sandwich).

Because of this, I'd vote for Rajah out:

My thought process as follows:

Math rationale:
- townies scored a right hit with works. Means mafia number is down to 5-6, townies to 13-14.

- The pressure is off to make another direct hit for the next 2-3 tries before the situation becomes dire. (M = T)

- This means we should use this chance to strike at another less obvious mafia person who could be the second brains.

- Probability means it is best to strike at the group which didn't vote first, to score a hit, vs. try ferret out the mole in the group which voted for Works. (1/5 vs. 1/8).

- Of the 5, my personal opinion is Rajah would be the most dangerous to have around. (sorry to the rest. :grin: )

Now what if townies instead decided to try vote out the mole now?

- There are too many of those who voted works to try figure out who right now: ape, madrigal and 2ds feature high on the suspects list, I see I have a vote against me too. etc.

- I sincerely doubt all of us are mafia.

- We run a higher risk of hitting a townie if we try ferret out the mole, and more importantly, unless we can reach a consensus, the voting would be split, which allows the other mafia to hide vs. if the votes are pooled - we basically risk losing a pattern to check.

- also, if the voting is split, the mafia could easily vote as 2 blocs against the real townies, and try get out a townie by using our paranoia against us. It saves them the trouble to have to kill one of us, basically.

- all in, townies are still stronger voting as one bloc, even if it is in the wrong direction, to out the mafia. Basically, like OMW, the mole can be killed later. I'd rather go for the possible brains. :mellow:


Why Rajah:

I find her fishy because :

a) she was definitely online during the voting period of 24 hours, but did not vote (If you check the time of her last posts prior to her saying she was away - voting was already open then). Then later she went on invisible mode, which she is seldom on. Now she is visible again. Even if we assume she was undecided, so didn't vote;

b) She says she missed the voting and submitted for works late, after closing. She'd obviously been on the "vote works" thread before that however (has posted there), and has posts made around closing too. Now even if we assume she missed voting:

c) her suspect list (OMW, avolketishvara, Rhu, BAJ, 2ds, ape) - it includes BAJ. Now of all players in the game, it has somehow always appeared to me that BAJ is the most obvious townie (or pulling the best con job of all lol)? Now even if we assume she's not following the posts as much, as there're so many threads;

d) My question is why would she post this suspect list, which omits Works, when she said she'd cast a vote for Works and apparently did so, after the poll closed.


With the math and the too many assumptions needed for her story to be consistent, I'd ask for townies to do a pooled vote on Rajah.

There's a better chance of hitting a mafia if we do so, and of outing the other mafia even if we're wrong.

And man, I kind of hope the mafia kills me tonight. =))

[manza]

-The anti-avolks, anti-manza front, to which I temporarily subscribe myself too, mainly cause they do not participate in any of the public conversations and do not share their reasons for voting whoever they are voting.
For what it's worth (though, for all I know, it could be nothing)-- I'm going to be really busy with school for a while, and I also threw out my back and sitting at my desk causes me indescribable pain, so you probably won't see much from me on the forum at all for a while. Life > mafia.

I've also played this game enough times to know: being too loud gets you killed quickly, either by the townsfolk or by the mafia.

As far as why I suspect you: You wanted to lead a lynch against aelan, who strikes me as townfolk through and though. Works wanted to help. Works was mafia. Can you explain this for me, please?

[aelan]

For what it's worth (though, for all I know, it could be nothing)-- I'm going to be really busy with school for a while, and I also threw out my back and sitting at my desk causes me indescribable pain, so you probably won't see much from me on the forum at all for a while. Life > mafia.

I've also played this game enough times to know: being too loud gets you killed quickly, either by the townsfolk or by the mafia.
As far as why I suspect you: You wanted to lead a lynch against aelan, who strikes me as townfolk through and though. Works wanted to help. Works was mafia. Can you explain this for me, please?

you can say that again.

:grin: I've had all the suspense I can take. I certainly wish the mafia would off me tonight. Or the townies tomorrow. :mellow: Ah well, if everyone goes for me vs. Rajah, the voting patterns could work too.

[LastRailway]

As far as why I suspect you: You wanted to lead a lynch against aelan, who strikes me as townfolk through and though. Works wanted to help. Works was mafia. Can you explain this for me, please?

Yep:
I hadn't closely watch the game before first Mafia's move and, when I skimmed the threads, I was surprised with aelan's presence and, especially, with how loudly aelan and Madrigal had grouped.
I threw some questioning against aelan and Works gave some input. Madrigal's protests were not very convincing.
Later, and after much private talk with some players, I re-examined my position and finally voted against Works.

Ah, and BTW I really don't have any good reason to suspect you - and I tend more and more to think you're no Mafia.

[BAJ]

Life > mafia.





Yeah, this is a distraction from all the people who want to kill me in real life.

:puppy:


Fake paranoia...taking place of real paranoia.

[manza]

Yep:
I hadn't closely watch the game before first Mafia's move and, when I skimmed the threads, I was surprised with aelan's presence and, especially, with how loudly aelan and Madrigal had grouped.
I threw some questioning against aelan and Works gave some input. Madrigal's protests were not very convincing.
Later, and after much private talk with some players, I re-examined my position and finally voted against Works.

Ah, and BTW I really don't have any good reason to suspect you - and I tend more and more to think you're no Mafia.

Fair enough. Thank you. I'll consider it... after I go write this paper.

I am also available for private discussion, although I must admit my response time (for PMs in general) is unpredictable and ranges around terrible.

[avolkiteshvara]

I haven't read all the past threads.

Did anyone seem to backup Work's rhetoric?

We should stay away from the voting blocks that got Works.

[Rajah]

Oh, for chrissakes, kill me then. I've been too distracted around here to play, and I've only been ducking on for a minute or two every so often. I have yet to read through a single thread in the subforum. Just know if you kill me, you're killing a townie, albeit a distracted, mostly absent townie.

[aelan]

I haven't read all the past threads.

Did anyone seem to backup Work's rhetoric?

We should stay away from the voting blocks that got Works.

:mellow: Eh. Works was guilty.

[syzygy]

Okay, data. These are really random guesses from skimming the threads, there have been around 305843094832048 new threads in the time I was gone and/or computerless. I haven't really had the time to make a more informed decision, but everything seems to be contradictory anyway, so I might not actually be able to make an informed decision even if I read all the posts thoroughly.

I suspect Madrigal, omw, Jynweythek, aelan, Autumn, 2ds.

[sandwich]

(though, in fact, Rhu hasn't displayed any behaviour to suspect of)


Which is the most suspicious of all.

Damn, you guys were busy while i was asleep.

[Madrigal]

My new list of Mafia suspects:


Rajah
2ds
avolk
OMW
Rhu
Eye-IN-TP

[avolkiteshvara]

I think:

2ds
Rhu
Eye-IN-TP

for sure. Others, not so sure.

Lets come to some agreement before noon tomorrow.

[augi55]

My new list of Mafia suspects:


Rajah
2ds
avolk
OMW
Rhu
Eye-IN-TP


Sounds very likely.