View Full Version : EZ and SB
Division56
26 Mar 2005, 05:11 AM
Both users have been issued 2 day bans for their behavior on these boards.
The thread they were commenting has been moved, temporarily.
booyalab
26 Mar 2005, 09:34 PM
EZ is no longer with us.
His parting words...
Shelter me from the powder and the finger.
Cover me with the thought that pulled the trigger.
Think of me as one you never figured
Would fade away so young...
With so much left undone...
Remember me to my love- I know I'll miss her!
MacGuffin
26 Mar 2005, 09:41 PM
I like Neil Young
cjs55
26 Mar 2005, 10:11 PM
He'll be back. He can't resist my charms.
Shai Gar
26 Mar 2005, 11:10 PM
she wants to touch me
she wants to huuug me
she wants to smooch me
MasterMerk
27 Mar 2005, 12:40 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Claverhouse
27 Mar 2005, 01:24 AM
'He sobbed and he sighed, and a gurgle he gave,
Then he threw himself into the billowy wave,
And an echo arose from the suicide's grave ---
"Oh, willow, titwillow, titwillow !"'
Claverhouse :ph34r:
jimkopelli
27 Mar 2005, 04:55 AM
Songbird has also said that she very likely won't be back... but don't hold me to that.
garak
27 Mar 2005, 06:06 AM
Although I might not agree with all of the specifics of the action taken, in the end I think it definitely did a good job of cleaning up the forums.
:thumbup:
misutii
27 Mar 2005, 06:16 AM
whatever
SensEye
27 Mar 2005, 06:43 AM
Ah, a timeout for the children. The noise was becoming a bit much.
Heather Harrison
27 Mar 2005, 06:44 AM
I abhor any kind of conflict, and I avoid it to the extent that I can. I have seen this go on but have refrained from posting in the threads in which they were fighting because I didn't want to get dragged in. It is a relief to know that the bickering will stop now, but it is a shame that it had to come to this. They are both interesting people; I, for one, would happily welcome them back if they would stop the bickering.
All I want is peace, harmony, and love. (What a hippy-ish "F" thing to say!)
Heather Harrison
Serotonin
27 Mar 2005, 07:01 AM
Most of us have a threshold in which we will gracefully back down when we see things are getting too heavy and we are wasting other people's time (and bandwidth).
SB and EZs threshold was in the stars..... they would have fought the 100 years war all over again if they had the opportunity to.
However I like EZs parting words.
I also like songbird.
*has NF moment, wonders why everyone just can't get along!!!!!*
Shai Gar
27 Mar 2005, 10:36 AM
it only stops for 2 days, only one more left
garak
27 Mar 2005, 11:09 AM
it only stops for 2 days, only one more left
How do you figure?
1. both supposedly are not coming back
2. if they do come back, they now know that the bickering will not be tolerated
it only stops for 2 days, only one more left
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ctai/itp104/apu.jpg
"Let us party like it's 1999."
Star
27 Mar 2005, 05:30 PM
What we need is a public poll asking which will come back and how soon. I wanna be able to say "I told you so!" and have proof. :D
Shai Gar
28 Mar 2005, 01:10 AM
the obituary sucked
Ode to Immortality - Wordsworth
THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
The earth, and every common sight,
To me did seem
Apparelled in celestial light,
The glory and the freshness of a dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore;--
Turn wheresoe'er I may,
By night or day,
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.
II
The Rainbow comes and goes,
And lovely is the Rose,
The Moon doth with delight
Look round her when the heavens are bare,
Waters on a starry night
Are beautiful and fair;
The sunshine is a glorious birth;
But yet I know, where'er I go,
That there hath past away a glory from the earth.
III
Now, while the birds thus sing a joyous song,
And while the young lambs bound
As to the tabor's sound,
To me alone there came a thought of grief:
A timely utterance gave that thought relief,
And I again am strong:
The cataracts blow their trumpets from the steep;
No more shall grief of mine the season wrong;
I hear the Echoes through the mountains throng,
The Winds come to me from the fields of sleep,
And all the earth is gay;
Land and sea
Give themselves up to jollity,
And with the heart of May
Doth every Beast keep holiday;--
Thou Child of Joy,
Shout round me, let me hear thy shouts, thou happy
Shepherd-boy!
___________________________________________________________________________
This is a message from Songbird.
Songbird has said that she will not return and sends thanks those who expressed to her messages of support.
Claverhouse
28 Mar 2005, 01:52 AM
Hopefully EZ will drive around a lot to let out his anger before returning.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Hopefully EZ will drive around a lot to let out his anger before returning.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Good for us, bad for Lawrence, Kansas. He has guns, right? *phear*
Utopmk
28 Mar 2005, 07:48 AM
I see a lack of participation for certain users, if a lack of drama is present.
This forum has been corrupted that way.
I am officially siding with the opposition, as SB and EZ are no more guilty than I, or their provokers.
I will be pming an admin shortly to alert them of the various rules I have broken, and request a ban for myself, and possibly the removal of my posts.
Goodbye all. :)
Solo
28 Mar 2005, 09:33 AM
NO! NO! NO!
I'm gone for 5 days and forum members are leaving? What the hell is going on? EZ and SB are gone? Please tell me this is all a dream. Was the arguing that bad? Could someone point me in the direction of these threads?
I may be a little slow but did Utopmk really point out why he should be banned and was he banned for those reasons?
booyalab
28 Mar 2005, 05:10 PM
He probably just changed his nickname to "Banned"
Utopmk can be dramatic that way.
Yea, the EZ and SB thread? I actually felt (yes, that is right) badly for her. Being hurled those kind of hateful personal attacks, is just uncalled for.
Booya, I never noticed your gender... funny.
booyalab
28 Mar 2005, 06:08 PM
Utopmk can be dramatic that way.
Yea, the EZ and SB thread? I actually felt (yes, that is right) badly for her. Being hurled those kind of hateful personal attacks, is just uncalled for.
there were attacks from both sides.
It's my personal opinion that since way more people were incompatible with songbird than EZ, then if SB had just been banned..everything would have returned to normal..more or less, but if EZ had just been banned, there still would have been fights. Although EZ had the first thread to be entitled in a straightforward manner of it's intended purpose "anti songbird" it wasn't even the first anti songbird thread. I dont want to name the other people who didn't get along with her on the forum because it might look petty, but there were enough.
I was neutral until she tried to repeatedly drag me into the argument (against my CLEAR wishes) by betraying some of the content of a few of our PRIVATE messages and using it to discredit and bait zedo by taking it totally out of context.
booyalab
28 Mar 2005, 06:30 PM
Booya, I never noticed your gender... funny.
hehe, thanks, I changed it in honor of mgbradsh's abortion thread.
Claverhouse
28 Mar 2005, 06:51 PM
...
Booya, I never noticed your gender... funny.
My post above was pretty nasty, but your's is just cruel.
I'm watching you.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
file cabinet
28 Mar 2005, 10:15 PM
I may be a little slow but did Utopmk really point out why he should be banned and was he banned for those reasons?
he was only banned because he asked to be banned not because he "broke the rules"
booyalab
28 Mar 2005, 10:20 PM
he was only banned because he asked to be banned not because he "broke the rules"
That's pretty lame. :dont:
It would be funnier if he had changed his nickname to "Banned", like I suspected.
Eileen
28 Mar 2005, 10:49 PM
That's pretty lame. :dont:
It would be funnier if he had changed his nickname to "Banned", like I suspected.
WAS he actually banned?
C.J.Woolf
28 Mar 2005, 11:04 PM
he was only banned because he asked to be banned not because he "broke the rules"
Wha? He can "ban" himself by not posting. Did he ask you to ban him because he doubted his willpower, or what?
Division56
28 Mar 2005, 11:15 PM
Wha? He can "ban" himself by not posting. Did he ask you to ban him because he doubted his willpower, or what?
Utopmk can be dramatic that way.
Ahem.
SensEye
28 Mar 2005, 11:23 PM
he was only banned because he asked to be banned not because he "broke the rules"LOL. That is ridiculous. It's like reading/posting here is an addiction.
BTW, as I understand it, EZ and SB were suspended not banned. They can return now if they want, although indications seem to be they "don't want". Of course, they might have to modify their behavior (primarily to start ignoring each other) which is why they choose exile I suppose. It's like they have an obsessive compulsive disorder with each other.
My post above was pretty nasty, but your's is just cruel.
I'm watching you.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Good ole' Claver...
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 12:12 AM
Just for the record, I believe that Booyalab and Zedo are the same person.
I have suspected this for quite some time, and recent events have strengthened my belief.
melancholeric
29 Mar 2005, 12:19 AM
Yeah, and I am Ngene's reincarnation. I'm surprised no one has figured it out yet.
I think the admins have their IP addresses. That should be the easiest way to find out.
Just for the record, I believe that Booyalab and Zedo are the same person.
I have suspected this for quite some time, and recent events have strengthened my belief.
Wow, that took a long time.
And you are delusional if you think that.
Division56
29 Mar 2005, 12:36 AM
I think the admins have their IP addresses. That should be the easiest way to find out.
They have shared IP addresses in the past, but that means little if they were shacked up.
EDIT: I think I am going to regret getting involved in this.
They have shared IP addresses in the past, but that means little if they were shacked up.
EDIT: I think I am going to regret getting involved in this.
I know they've had some visits, but we shouldn't let someone else's paranoia interfere with their lives. That's not really fair.
melancholeric
29 Mar 2005, 12:49 AM
They have shared IP addresses in the past, but that means little if they were shacked up.
If they had different IPs most of the time, they weren't the same person.
Or if they posted within minutes of each others from different IPs or something. It would be too much of a hassle to log out, get new IP, log in, post, log out, get new IP, etc. when they were basically posting oneliners at a post per minute rate. (Actually, the login/logout would probably be too much in itself. Consider how much they both posted.)
Can you find the IPs where individual posts came from? Just to help songbird get a grip on reality.
I know they've had some visits, but we shouldn't let someone else's paranoia interfere with their lives. That's not really fair.
Brilliant....
MasterMerk
29 Mar 2005, 12:53 AM
Same person? I seriously, honestly doubt it.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 01:21 AM
I notice Booyalab disappeared pretty quickly after I posted my hypothesis. Perhaps she'd like to return and address it?
I have nothing to lose here - I've lost it all already.
Vagabond
29 Mar 2005, 01:33 AM
Or maybe you could prove your hypothesis instead. It is as if I say you and universal (for instance) are the same person, and if you can't prove me wrong, I am right. Doesn't make sense.
Eileen
29 Mar 2005, 01:34 AM
sigh... what are you doing, Songbird? Are you just having fun or what? I don't understand this fixation, and while it really should just garner a chuckle from everybody else, it's just going to start some silly argument.
Heh, I post Songbird's obituary and then she rises from the grave... now don't I look silly.
http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/thelook.gif (maybe I am Songbird34 http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/ng_shock.gif ?!?!?!?!) http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/thelook.gif
Heh, I post Songbird's obituary and then she rises from the grave... now don't I look silly.
http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/thelook.gif (maybe I am Songbird34 http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/ng_shock.gif ?!?!?!?!) http://forums.intpcentral.com/images/smilies/thelook.gif
Maybe we are all either SB or EZ?
Sir Isaac Lime
29 Mar 2005, 01:56 AM
You're close Songbird. Booya is actually Helios.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:06 AM
I'm not saying "prove it". All I'm saying it's what *I* personally think.
If I'm wrong, so be it. Booyalab and Zedo have both played mind games with me in their own way for quite a while now. I've never really believed in the "Zedo" persona as a real person. He seemed too extreme and emotionally charged to be a real person (and for that matter, to be a male).
You're all welcome to disagree with me - I don't really care. I will be interested in what Booyalab has to say about this.
Maybe we are all either SB or EZ?
M = Mastermerk
G = Geoff
B = Booyalab
R = Relaxo
A = Albino Sartan
D = Deepsky
S = S
H = Helios
MGBRADSH
This is proof as far as I am concerned!
jyakulis
29 Mar 2005, 02:07 AM
I'm not saying "prove it". All I'm saying it's what *I* personally think.
If I'm wrong, so be it. Booyalab and Zedo have both played mind games with me in their own way for quite a while now. I've never really believed in the "Zedo" persona as a real person. He seemed too extreme and emotionally charged to be a real person (and for that matter, to be a male).
You're all welcome to disagree with me - I don't really care. I will be interested in what Booyalab has to say about this.
leave the theories to the INTP's ;P
jimkopelli
29 Mar 2005, 02:12 AM
You'll never believe who I really am.
*maniacal laughter...*
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:18 AM
btw Eileen, I'm not the least bit interested in reviving any disputes with Zedo. That is all over as far as I'm concerned.
I am only concerned to try and understand why this all happened to begin with, as I've found it extremely upsetting and personally very stressful.
Ascending
29 Mar 2005, 02:27 AM
Just for the record, I believe that Booyalab and Zedo are the same person.
I have suspected this for quite some time, and recent events have strengthened my belief.
Yea... that is a frightening thought. I don't know why, but it is.
jyakulis
29 Mar 2005, 02:29 AM
Where's the evidence...you're a god damn lawyer....let's see some proof woman.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:34 AM
I don't have proof - only a suspicion.
The fact that they may have different IP addresses is irrelevant - he/she could be using a lap top for one of them.
This Zedo thing is a sick twisted game with me that he has been playing over several months.
The truth is Booyalab is the only person I ever had conflict with before Zedo came on the forum (no-one else had attacked me before that), and after Zedo surfaced, the Zedo attacks started pretty quickly.
I've noticed that they often come on and post at different times, but again, that's not conclusive (as I said they could be using different IP addresses).
If I'm wrong on this, the fact remains that the attacks on me have been sick, and unwarranted by my own persona or behaviour.
btw Eileen, I'm not the least bit interested in reviving any disputes with Zedo. That is all over as far as I'm concerned.
I am only concerned to try and understand why this all happened to begin with, as I've found it extremely upsetting and personally very stressful.
You are doing a good job of not coming back.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:37 AM
I'm not back and won't be posting anywhere else in future.
I am just hoping to sort out this issue once and for all (although I suspect even if Boo and Zedo are one person, he/she will not admit to it).
Vagabond
29 Mar 2005, 02:41 AM
although I suspect even if Boo and Zedo are one person, he/she will not admit to it. So this is pretty pointless then, isn't it?
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:43 AM
No because if Booyalab is reading this, she will know what I think and suspect.
And hopefully that will affect how things pan out in future.
Trolsk
29 Mar 2005, 02:46 AM
This is what is called passive aggressiveness?
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:50 AM
The aggression has been directed largely at me Hush. I don't want to keep harking back to it, I merely want to see things move on.
It may not be possible to get to the bottom of this, but I'm still going to try. It has been a stressful few months here.
Serotonin
29 Mar 2005, 02:53 AM
The aggression has been directed largely at me Hush. I don't want to keep harking back to it, I merely want to see things move on.
It may not be possible to get to the bottom of this, but I'm still going to try. It has been a stressful few months here.
Then possibly sort it using PMs? Making it public seems like you want to garner support.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 02:59 AM
PMs would defeat the objective here.
If I PM'd Booyalab about this she would deny she was Zedo, or would not respond. The behaviour then would not change.
And I see that people are interested in the mutual banning, as people have posted on this thread in the past few days when Zedo and I have not been around.
Star
29 Mar 2005, 03:00 AM
This is called ensuring her place in the Hall of INTP Central Kookdom.
CosmicDust
29 Mar 2005, 03:10 AM
If I PM'd Booyalab about this she would deny she was Zedo, or would not respond. The behaviour then would not change.
And what's to make you think the outcome of a public message would be any different? Her chance of responding may increase if the message is public, but chances are she'll still deny she's Zedo (most likely because she's not, IMO).
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 03:14 AM
I don't want her to respond necessarily.
I only want her to modify her behaviour. Her post on this thread this morning was hostile, and I wouldn't be surprised if Zedo resurfaces sometime soon (in fact I saw him here briefly yesterday).
I want all this to stop, as although I won't be posting in future as SB34, I would like to continue on this forum in some capacity, as I find it generally an interesting place to be.
Vagabond
29 Mar 2005, 03:26 AM
I want all this to stop, as although I won't be posting in future as SB34 So now you have me wondering which your alias is.:whistle:
garak
29 Mar 2005, 03:26 AM
This is called ensuring her place in the Hall of INTP Central Kookdom.
Ahahaha. Took the sentiment right out of my head. (not the words out of my mouth because I was still trying to figure out how to word it :P)
All I have to say is: W T F
:rofl:
Songbird IIRC also accused someone else of being zedo in disguise. What a joke.
garak
29 Mar 2005, 03:27 AM
So now you have me wondering which your alias is.:whistle:
Unless she stays quiet, it shouldn't take long to be obvious.
SensEye
29 Mar 2005, 03:28 AM
Zedo posted long before you arrived songbird. He, booya, and mgbrdsh could be quite annoying in their own right, mainly as a result of thread hijacking with personal conversations as opposed to arguements. I can't see your theory holding any water.
Heather Harrison
29 Mar 2005, 03:31 AM
I have been reluctant to get involved with this because I don't like conflict.
However, Songbird, I have to admire your patience, staying power, or whatever quality it is that allowed you to live through so much of it. I could use a little more of that. If I ever became involved in serious conflict like that, I would probably just quietly melt away.
I do find your hypothesis interesting, although I don't have enough information to determine whether I think it is true or not. If true, however, you may have uncovered a truly masterful and committed troll, and I am duly impressed (with you, and in a way, the troll).
I hope I don't get dragged in by posting here, but I felt that I had to say something. And I hope you can find a way to stay here, Songbird. I find many of your posts interesting. And perhaps you should check out Intuitive Central if you haven't already.
Heather Harrison
Eileen
29 Mar 2005, 03:37 AM
If I PM'd Booyalab about this she would deny she was Zedo, or would not respond. The behaviour then would not change.
Well, she'd probably deny she was Zedo because she's not Zedo. If there's any conspiracy at all indicated by the fact that you'd only had conflicts with Booyalab before Zedo showed up, it's probably that B and Z are buddies and thus on the same "side." That's IF there was a conspiracy, which I don't believe. It's rather elaborate, and as much as I'm generally unimpressed with the quality of Zedo's person, I don't see him making such an effort. He can be a jackass, but that's all he is.
The fact is, much of this could have been avoided had you chosen, instead of consistently confronting Zedo and company head-on, to deem them not worth your time, energy, and emotional reserves and IGNORE THEM. I took up for you, and when you were first attacked--and you were attacked, don't misunderstand me here--it was uncalled for and unfair. But you let it escalate after that because you refused to let things go--forgive, forget, or whatever. If you had wanted things to change, you could have put Zedo and company on ignore, and eventually they'd shut the fuck up because that's what obnoxious aggressors do when they aren't given the time of day. Instead, you let him get to you and you (and whomever you were arguing with at the time) allowed it to taint the quality of the forum. It's not all your fault, and it's not all his fault. But neither of you are innocent, and quite frankly, MY patience has run out on the whole mess, and my patience stretches pretty goddamn far.
I like you and you know it. I've tried to support you and defend you throughout all of this, but this is absurd. For all the interesting and thoughtful posting you could have been doing and could be doing now, you let yourself get sucked up into what pretty much amounts to a petty middle school popularity squabble. Let it go.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 03:54 AM
Zedo posted long before you arrived songbird. He, booya, and mgbrdsh could be quite annoying in their own right, mainly as a result of thread hijacking with personal conversations as opposed to arguements. I can't see your theory holding any water.
Just to correct some misinformation, Booyalab started here in Sept 2004. Zedo started in Nov 2004 a month or so *after* I arrived. In the month before his arrival no-one had flamed me, or even argued with me.
I had an early dispute with Booylab on some views I posted about males and typology. She didn't flame me however on these occasions.
The vitriol from Zedo started in January of this year.
Heather Harrison
29 Mar 2005, 03:55 AM
Good suggestions, Eileen. While I admire Songbird's determination in fighting back, there is a time to move on - for both sides. Perhaps ignoring persistent aggressors is the best method. Fortunately, in a forum like this, aggression doesn't turn physical so ignoring it doesn't have such a big potential downside.
Heather Harrison
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 03:57 AM
The fact is, much of this could have been avoided had you chosen, instead of consistently confronting Zedo and company head-on, to deem them not worth your time, energy, and emotional reserves and IGNORE THEM. I took up for you, and when you were first attacked--and you were attacked, don't misunderstand me here--it was uncalled for and unfair. But you let it escalate after that because you refused to let things go--forgive, forget, or whatever. If you had wanted things to change, you could have put Zedo and company on ignore, and eventually they'd shut the fuck up because that's what obnoxious aggressors do when they aren't given the time of day. Instead, you let him get to you and you (and whomever you were arguing with at the time) allowed it to taint the quality of the forum. It's not all your fault, and it's not all his fault. But neither of you are innocent, and quite frankly, MY patience has run out on the whole mess, and my patience stretches pretty goddamn far.
I like you and you know it. I've tried to support you and defend you throughout all of this, but this is absurd. For all the interesting and thoughtful posting you could have been doing and could be doing now, you let yourself get sucked up into what pretty much amounts to a petty middle school popularity squabble. Let it go.
I agree with a lot of this. I could have chosen to ignore him, and not respond to posts. However once this started happening, often Zedo would post some bile about me which I didn't respond to, and then Mgbradsh would jump on the bandwagon and post something agreeing with it, or flaming me.
That becomes hard to ignore. From a reputational point of view, leaving something like that sitting there with no response means that essentially I am allowing myself to be humiliated.
How would others perceive a lack of response from me? And Zedo would continue his attacks on multiple threads, sometimes not even in response to a post from me.
I accept I could have handled things better, but I'm still not sure exactly how. I don't agree that my lack of response would have made him stop his flaming of me.
Heather Harrison
29 Mar 2005, 04:00 AM
Perhaps my signature line, a Middle English proverb, has some bearing in general to flame wars. Translated (but not nearly so poetic) it means roughly "One shouldn't argue with fools any more than one should try to open ones mouth wider than an oven." It sounds a little weird in modern form, but the sentiment is timeless. It's one of my favorite sayings. In short, "One can never win a flame war."
Heather Harrison
Vagabond
29 Mar 2005, 04:02 AM
Jesus Christ, you talk as if you never baited zedo out of the blue too.
Eileen
29 Mar 2005, 04:04 AM
I don't agree that my lack of response would have made him stop his flaming of me.
It would have become dull. He would have found somebody else to play with... and I think probably people would have been more likely to tell him to shut up because there would have been no perception at all that you were egging him on (whether that was your intent or not).
SensEye
29 Mar 2005, 04:12 AM
The fact is, much of this could have been avoided had you chosen, instead of consistently confronting Zedo and company head-on, to deem them not worth your time, energy, and emotional reserves and IGNORE THEM. I took up for you, and when you were first attacked--and you were attacked, don't misunderstand me here--it was uncalled for and unfair. But you let it escalate after that because you refused to let things go--forgive, forget, or whatever. If you had wanted things to change, you could have put Zedo and company on ignore, and eventually they'd shut the fuck up because that's what obnoxious aggressors do when they aren't given the time of day. Instead, you let him get to you and you (and whomever you were arguing with at the time) allowed it to taint the quality of the forum. It's not all your fault, and it's not all his fault. But neither of you are innocent, and quite frankly, MY patience has run out on the whole mess, and my patience stretches pretty goddamn far.
I like you and you know it. I've tried to support you and defend you throughout all of this, but this is absurd. For all the interesting and thoughtful posting you could have been doing and could be doing now, you let yourself get sucked up into what pretty much amounts to a petty middle school popularity squabble. Let it go. Well said Eileen. I couldn't agree more.
Just to correct some misinformation, Booyalab started here in Sept 2004. Zedo started in Nov 2004 a month or so *after* I arrived. In the month before his arrival no-one had flamed me, or even argued with me.Hmmm, I must be getting old. I really can't recall you from that far back, but I stand corrected.
That becomes hard to ignore. From a reputational point of view, leaving something like that sitting there with no response means that essentially I am allowing myself to be humiliated. NO. NO. A 1000% wrong. This is the very crux of the matter. Give people some credit. Everybody can see exactly what is going on. Sitting there with no response would gain you respect, not humiliation. If you don't agree you need to trust me on this.
How would others perceive a lack of response from me?They would perceive you as taking the high road. By taking the low road and playing the game you have become every bit as annoying.
Serotonin
29 Mar 2005, 04:18 AM
Nicky Wire from the Manic Street Preachers baited Michael Stipe in 1992, saying on stage that he was glad that Stipe had AIDS.
Stipe didn't have AIDS, and has made absolutely no public statement on the matter since. R.E.M. have continued to garner respect in the past decade, while MSP have lost a guitarist and their albums have become continually more mediocre.
Take from that allegory what you will.
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 04:20 AM
Well you could be right. I'll never know now.
I got to know his persona quite well though, and my assessment was that he wouldn't have left me alone. What he used to do was post something about me and then if I didn't respond, go on to post something else on another thread. Often there would be multiple posts about me at the same time.
Anyway, enough now. I don't want to relitigate all this - I said what I came here to say.
I find it funny that this argument is still raging without any input from Zedo, which probably indicates who most often started the arguments in the first place.
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 03:57 PM
I predicted all of this.
It's my personal opinion that since way more people were incompatible with songbird than EZ, ...if EZ had just been banned, there still would have been fights.
and "for the record", SB had her chance to take the high road..and failed. Instead EZ's on it now, as he knew what would happen if he layed low and allowed songbird to show her true colors.
As for the dissociative identity theory, it's been done to death songbird......
especially if it has to result in me shooting myself or getting killed by a small demonic child or ending up in an asylum, I will have no part in it!
CoHo
29 Mar 2005, 04:39 PM
"Ah, you're crazy."
"Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?!"
"It's impossible!"
"Is it? Or is it so possible that your head is spinning like a top?!"
"It can't be."
"Can it? Or is your entire world just crashing down all around you?"
"Alright, that's enough."
"Yaaaaaaahhh!!!"
- Jerry and Kramer, in "The Stall"
.
Division56
29 Mar 2005, 08:01 PM
You're all fucking drama queens.
You're all fucking drama queens.
I guess that's what happens when the thiothixene runs out.
You're all fucking drama queens.
You know you love it.
MacGuffin
29 Mar 2005, 08:47 PM
You know you love it.
It is amusing.
Dman
29 Mar 2005, 09:38 PM
What is this shit? Days of our lives?
Besides, the theory that multiple users are all just the same person is old news.
I've been operating under the assumption that it's only me and one other person on this board. You can't fool me!
melancholeric
29 Mar 2005, 09:40 PM
I've been operating under the assumption that it's only me and one other person on this board. You can't fool me!
I thought I was the only one here.
Division56
29 Mar 2005, 09:48 PM
I thought I was the only one here.
Well that explains a lot.
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 09:50 PM
You're all fucking drama queens.
Am I missing something here? I thought only one of us is suffering from paranoid delusions.
CreativeChaos
29 Mar 2005, 09:56 PM
Gee, I started at you're all fucking drama queens.
EZ is one of my most beloved as you know and SG is one of my most....
uhh... well....not hated, not despised, hmmm....my most wicked.:wub:
HAAAAAA!!
HAHAHAHAH!
HHHAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! :rofl:
I am just too funny and too sexy for words. Hee! :smooch:
Claverhouse
29 Mar 2005, 09:57 PM
I thought I was the only one here.
You are.
And you just wrote this.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Sir Isaac Lime
29 Mar 2005, 10:00 PM
HHHAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! :rofl:
I am just too funny and too sexy for words. Hee! :smooch:
I thought only one of us is suffering from paranoid delusions..
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 10:12 PM
.
CC's post would be an example of narcissistic delusions.
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 10:20 PM
Admins, I have a complaint of a member committing the serious crime of stating the obvious. SB just pmed me saying I'm not nearly as clever as I imagine. Well, duh! I'm an INTP, no one in the history of the world is as clever as I think I am.
heeroyuy
29 Mar 2005, 10:34 PM
Seriously people, grow the fuck up. It's a damn forum, little else. It's fun, it's awesome, but honestly...
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 10:35 PM
Seriously people, grow the fuck up. It's a damn forum, little else. It's fun, it's awesome, but honestly...
Sorry for having fun.
jyakulis
29 Mar 2005, 10:39 PM
Hey hey hey...What is going on here?!?!
ZACK MORRIS
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 10:41 PM
:lol: It's a good thing heero's (probably)too young to remember saved by the bell :whistle:
heeroyuy
29 Mar 2005, 10:42 PM
It's a good thing I have a sense of humor today.
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 10:43 PM
It's a good thing I have a sense of humor today.
ok mr belding. *shows hall pass*
heeroyuy
29 Mar 2005, 10:53 PM
I was the bopper once, and don't you fucking forget it...
jyakulis
29 Mar 2005, 10:54 PM
I was the bopper once, and don't you fucking forget it...
:rofl: :rofl:
CreativeChaos
29 Mar 2005, 11:17 PM
Gee, I started at you're all fucking drama queens.
EZ is one of my most beloved as you know and SG is one of my most....
uhh... well....not hated, not despised, hmmm....my most wicked.:wub:
HAAAAAA!!
HAHAHAHAH!
HHHAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! :rofl:
I am just too funny and too sexy for words. Hee! :smooch:
You are.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Thanks Claver!:wub:
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 11:36 PM
EZ is watching this thread right now - I know his new handle on here.
Only he won't be able to say anything now under his new ID.
hehehe
MasterMerk
29 Mar 2005, 11:47 PM
:|
jyakulis
29 Mar 2005, 11:57 PM
EZ is watching this thread right now - I know his new handle on here.
Only he won't be able to say anything now under his new ID.
hehehe
miss him already?
songbird36
29 Mar 2005, 11:59 PM
Nah I'm just enjoying seeing whether he will slip up and reveal his new identity.
btw EZ - your secret is safe with me for the meantime.
booyalab
29 Mar 2005, 11:59 PM
I doubt I ever wil..I mean I doubt he ever will.
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:00 AM
Nah I'm just enjoying seeing whether he will slip up and reveal his new identity.
btw EZ - your secret is safe with me for the meantime.
Introverted intuition at it's best.
or lunacy
I doubt I ever wil..I mean I doubt he ever will.
Is it time to fess up booyalab?
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:01 AM
We'll see. It's hard for a leopard to hide his spots. He's shown them off already in fact.
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:01 AM
oops
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:09 AM
btw Booyalab, I'm somewhat reassured in my conclusion that Zedo is a fictional character.
If he were real, I'd have some serious concerns on behalf of the citizens of Lawrence, Kansas, based on his anger issues.
Vagabond
30 Mar 2005, 12:13 AM
Nah I'm just enjoying seeing whether he will slip up and reveal his new identity.
btw EZ - your secret is safe with me for the meantime. Personally I am still more curious as to what *your* alias is (ever since you said you won't be posting here *as songbird* I have been). Of course this alias thing is stupid, since neither of you is banned and can use your regular nicks. So... why would zedo make a new account? Why can't he use it? How come you know about it? Kind of hard to think he shared his secret with you, given that you are not exactly best buddies... and why would you protect such a secret, given (again) that you are not best buddies? None of this makes sense, I am seriously amused by the fact you underestimate the mental capacity of the members of this particular board en masse... I suggest you stop stirring up shit, let go of this entire fuss (since it is not zedo that keeps it alive now, it is you apparently) and start posting on threads that make some sense. Show what you're made of there.
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:18 AM
You know what I can't believe. Songbird is a lawyer and she missed her chance to leave here going out Jerry Maguire style. You are ruining the movie....Jerry wasn't spose to come back begging for his job.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:19 AM
Oh I will be posting on serious threads (not as SB though).
However given the continual humiliation Boo/Zedo have subjected me to over a period of months, and the fact that the admins have taken a fairly laissez-faire attitude to it, I think I have a right to turn a little of that humiliation back on him/her.
I'm not going to reveal Zedo's new identity because he has the right to create a new one without being revealed as the "old" Zedo. That's my sense of fair play coming to the fore.
And Vagabond it may interest you to know that I have PMed Zedo several times over the past few months seeking a "truce" in all of this, but he refused to do so. I can only conclude therefore that he wanted to play out this drama on the forum for his own reasons.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:19 AM
btw Booyalab, I'm somewhat reassured in my conclusion that Zedo is a fictional character.
If he were real, I'd have some serious concerns on behalf of the citizens of Lawrence, Kansas, based on his anger issues.
:rofl:
dont be silly, if I had our combined intellects do you think I'd be wasting my time on here?(with you)
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:24 AM
However given the continual humiliation Boo.. have (has)subjected me to over a period of months
?
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 12:27 AM
She's talking about the public spankings. It must be the public spankings!
*obligatory monty python reference to castle Antrhax*
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 12:28 AM
EZ had a song once, played by his band in which he sang and had a male voice. Now I know that it's always possible to use somebody elses voice, but I do not see why somebody would go through all that trouble doing this - something that is no fun at all - merely to convince people he was not a fake.
It is my opinion that he is real, only he is playing you all for a fool, constantly - because it is his way, and because he is afraid to show himself, his feelings, his interests, his whatever.
I also think his teasing of late was self-destructive behavior, and I strongly suspect this ban is something he secretly longed for, or at least knew was coming, being bored of having to keep up this fake image he played here.
I understand why it is impossible for songbird to put it to rest. She doesn't seem to be that kind of person. And EZ would be incapable of putting it to rest either, because I imagine getting her angry and getting her to be obsessed by (this argument with) him *is* something of a victory to him.
I find the hypothesis of Booyalab being Zedo to be a weak one, but if it's true, I don't care much, since it doesn't affect me at all. If somebody plays a female or a male on the internet, and is careful to give me no reason to suspect otherwise, then they are such - no matter what sex they are beyond the keyboard, as it is irrelevant.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:29 AM
She's talking about the public spankings. It must be the public spankings!
*obligatory monty python reference to castle Antrhax*
:D
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:30 AM
I find the hypothesis of Booyalab being Zedo to be a weak one, but if it's true, I don't care much, since it doesn't affect me at all. If somebody plays a female or a male on the internet, and is careful to give me no reason to suspect otherwise, then they are such - no matter what sex they are beyond the keyboard, as it is irrelevant.
She wants revenge, plain and simple. (for what, I'm not sure)
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:30 AM
OK - if you're so skeptical ask him for his address and contact details in Lawrence Kansas then. Get him to PM you with that info, and then phone him.
That way this can be laid to rest once and for all.
Star
30 Mar 2005, 12:31 AM
OK - if you're so skeptical ask him for his address and contact details in Lawrence Kansas then. Get him to PM you with that info, and then phone him.
That way this can be laid to rest once and for all.
Ha, so some nutjob (like you) can stalk him?
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:32 AM
OK - if you're so skeptical ask him for his address and contact details in Lawrence Kansas then. Get him to PM you with that info, and then phone him.
That way this can be laid to rest once and for all.
and then tell her the info so she can stalk him.
dammit, deepsky....JINX
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:33 AM
OK - if you're so skeptical ask him for his address and contact details in Lawrence Kansas then. Get him to PM you with that info, and then phone him.
That way this can be laid to rest once and for all.
this wreaks of awkwardness....um edmond zedo...yeah this is jyakulis FROM A FUCKING MESSAGE BOARD
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:36 AM
I have no intention to, or desire, to stalk him. Hence I have no interest in learning his contact details.
However if you're all so convinced he's a bona fide person, prove it. It's easy enough to make a phone call.
Vagabond
30 Mar 2005, 12:38 AM
And Vagabond it may interest you to know that I have PMed Zedo several times over the past few months seeking a "truce" in all of this, but he refused to do so. I can only conclude therefore that he wanted to play out this drama on the forum for his own reasons. Yes you've said so before, Zedo said you only PMed him once, frankly it makes no difference. But really... drama...? Drama is what this thread is. Drama is whining about everyone being mean to "me", while "I" have been such a sweet quiet angel that never bothered anyone. Drama is if I keep complaining about how an evil person has his eye on me, everyone else is against me just because, the admins are tough with me and lenient with everyone else, the society is a fucking bitch to me, I am a victim of everyone while I do nothing against no one etc... guess who is producing drama here.
Now, if I conveniently choose to ommit how I have been kicking the "evil somene's" ass and baiting him into fights out of the blue as well right before I have been starting to play my innocent angel's act, that's unhealthy cph 6 drama. Typical, actually.
(Not saying I have anything against unhealthy cph Sixes, merely an observation).
Btw, if anyone from a board with whom I am in no way remotely close asked me for my address, phone number, real name and the like in order to verify my gender, I would tell them to fuck off and get a life. That wouldn't prove I am of the wrong gender, that would only prove I was not stupid enough to give my personal data out to just about anyone.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:38 AM
Here's his number 7865330939
here's mine 5346060126
...oh, but you have to unscramble the numbers, actually though
Star
30 Mar 2005, 12:38 AM
By the way, I'm pretty sure vBulletin has a ban by IP feature. So I think it's kinda funny to see SB start the same stuff she was banned for, thinking she can come right back as someone else whenever it happens again. :dont:
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 12:40 AM
I called somebody I'd only talked to on IRC once. The conversation lasted only a few minutes and as often is the case in such things, the only relaxed part was the part where we said goodbye to each other. (I also said I would say hello to the books I was studying in for him (as this was my excuse for not being able to talk long - obviously - the conversation being awkward and weird obviously not being one) and it was oh so hilarious and spontaneous a joke)
Anyway, yes. That is the only way to know for certain if he is real. The same goes for everybody else here as well, though. And I choose to simplify things and accept that you are all real without needing proof, and the alternative would be hellish. I would have to suspect everybody, all the time.
Stem
30 Mar 2005, 12:43 AM
I would have to suspect everybody, all the time.
And you should.
:devil:
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 12:43 AM
this could almost be some elaborate interactive analogy she constructed to show the parallels of faith between this and the ongoing belief in God argument, but at this point I doubt she's that intelligent or detached.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:44 AM
Well the options are simple - phone him. If he is who he purports to be he will have nothing to fear by being phoned by someone he trusts.
I reckon I've said enough now on this topic. As Vagabond says it's time to let it go. My main objective has been fulfilled, which is to let Boo/Zedo know that I'm aware of the situation and I'm watching them. There is no further objective.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 12:47 AM
I've called indy via VoIP, but he was helping me test. The only people with my phone numbers are the l337 administration posse (intentional sarcasm).
In any event, want me to compare his IP songbird? Did you think of that, that if he and someone else posts from the same IP, they must be the same person else share a room, hmm? Oh, right, sorry, I'll shutup and let you have what is in my opinion a neurotic and paranoid dillusion which will continue to distort the space time which this board occupies on my server until the area of hard drive upon which this thread is stored dies due to bullshit overload.
But that's just my opinion, I'm feeling vindictive and cynical right now :)
Sir Isaac Lime
30 Mar 2005, 12:47 AM
I called somebody I'd only talked to on IRC once. The conversation lasted only a few minutes and as often is the case in such things, the only relaxed part was the part where we said goodbye to each other. (I also said I would say hello to the books I was studying in for him (as this was my excuse for not being able to talk long - obviously - the conversation being awkward and weird obviously not being one) and it was oh so hilarious and spontaneous a joke)
So what did I do to make the conversation so akward? By the way, did ever check those books out?
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:53 AM
I wonder what will happen next on Young and the INTP'less.....
Songbird finds shocking evidence into the mystery of edmond zedo.
Apethedog and sirisaaclime give another shot at an awkward friendship.
Booyalab gets breast implants.
And jyakulis checks himself into the I can't believe I just wasted 2 hours of my life reading this garbage clinic.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:53 AM
But that's just my opinion, I'm feeling vindictive and cynical right now :)
IP addresses are irrelevant. She could be using a laptop and a separate internet account for one of the IDs.
The only way to verify Zedo is to phone or visit him.
btw, I'm not really bothered that you all think I'm nuts. My reputation was in tatters way before this anyway due to the ongoing flame war. I know who and what I am IRL in any case.
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 12:55 AM
And you should.
:devil:
I knew it! It was you who killed my father! I swear by the moon that I will draw a last breath from you for every one of the years you have stolen from me!
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 12:57 AM
Now you're all enjoying this. There are *plenty* of other serious threads to occupy your collective IQs but no, here you are.
lol
Star
30 Mar 2005, 12:58 AM
IP addresses are irrelevant. She could be using a laptop and a separate internet account for one of the IDs.
The only way to verify Zedo is to phone or visit him.
Wrong, IP address blocks are assigned to ISPs and almost always show a geographical region. They are not random.
http://www.arin.net
http://www.ripe.net
http://www.apnic.net
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 12:59 AM
I don't think you're nuts, I just think you're on a semi-neurotic fantasy for fun or profit. In reality, I think you just want a reason to be mad at booya, I don't really blame you, as I've been annoyed by her in the past as well, but just get over the fact she'll constantly hurl insults at you and join in hurling an insult or two at yourself/back at her, and you'll learn it really doesn't matter. As for EZ, he's a real person due to IPs and what ranges they're in, it'd be hard to fake what I see in logs etc. But that's just my opinion, I have very little against you personally.
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 12:59 AM
Now when I reread my posts I picture screech saying them. This is creeping me out I'm outta here.
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:00 AM
She's talking about the public spankings. It must be the public spankings!
*obligatory monty python reference to castle Antrhax*
Public Spankings? I'm ready!
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:01 AM
What about proxies? I don't really know enough about IT to know how this can be done, but I understand that proxies can be used by someone with a bit of nous.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:01 AM
Now when I reread my posts I picture screech saying them. This is creeping me out I'm outta here.
no dont go! just change your avatar
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 01:01 AM
So what did I do to make the conversation so akward? By the way, did ever check those books out?
It's just that, with friends, I have this rule that you only fart into the telephone horn on a fourth call or later. Sooner that that I consider a breach of privacy. The books say hello back, by the way.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:02 AM
Geez CC I must have seen that photo at least 10,000 times.
Don't you have a new one? Botty showing perhaps?
hehehe
Vagabond
30 Mar 2005, 01:02 AM
Well the options are simple - phone him. If he is who he purports to be he will have nothing to fear by being phoned by someone he trusts. By someone he trusts, cool. So if Booyalab calls him and reports him male, it counts? :P
Seriously, you trust people you know more than just off of a board. And say zedo had a friend on this board other than booya (I have no clue about this, just speculating), he/she calls him and reports him male; then oops! That doesn't count either, you can always come back and claim his friend is covering up for him. The only way this would work, is if someone that was *not* close to him (therefore with no personal agenda) called him, but like I said, I would consider edmond as an idiot if he just handed out his personal data to just about anyone in order to prove himself as a male to a message board that doesn't even care.
Btw, if booyalab and edmond were the same person, I would feel like congratulating that person for their creativity, ability to log her aliases in and out so fast, flirting themselves, arguing with themselves so realistically, being able to present two kinds of personalities so efficiently and consistently and their sense of pointless humour, since all that would be, of course, pointless. But I don't feel like that, strangely. Must be my fixation holding me back from accepting that someone has been such a genius and that someone was not me.
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:04 AM
Heeroguy? Didn't you say public spankings? Where? :wub:
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:04 AM
What about proxies? I don't really know enough about IT to know how this can be done, but I understand that proxies can be used by someone with a bit of nous.
nous? are you refering to the french pronoun which is equivalent of "we" or do you mean something entirely different?
And yes-that would be possible, but if you lookup where an IP is from, and check into it, see if it is consistently where he posts from, and do other port scans, you can see if it is a proxy. That is, unless by magic his computer is transmitting by telepathy to the remote proxy, in which case, yes, it would be undetectable, and your paranoid fantasy might be grounded.
So...next on As The INTP's Stomach Churns....
Is EZ telepathic?
Will CC get spanked?
Will Booya convince mr jyakulis to stay?
Will the duke boys make it over that jump?
Tune in next time to find out!
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:05 AM
Geez CC I must have seen that photo at least 10,000 times.
Don't you have a new one? Botty showing perhaps?
hehehe
Heh, that's the only sexy one you'll see too. Don't want a lot of those floating about. Hee! :devil:
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:06 AM
Will CC get spanked?
Will heeroguy spank CC?
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:07 AM
So, this is the new post whore thread?
songbird, I don't care which incarnation you show up as, you are still going to be some whackjob from New Zealand. I seriously think you should get psyciatrich help. I'm not even trying to be insulting. It seems like you have some legitamate problems that need some serious examination.
This got past drama a long time ago.
I think most of us are sitting back and laughing at how crazy this is and wondering what led you to these conclusions and what other conclusions you have concocted.
But I think you should stop now. At least for a while, and get some help for whatever is happening in your life that brought you to the "place" you are in now. It's not a healthy place and I think it's only getting inflamed by your presence here.
I can't say I speak for everyone, I imagine I don't, but your dogmatic approach to things, currently manifesting itself in this little game, is becoming not so funny anymore.
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:08 AM
Will Booya convince mr jyakulis to stay?
promise of cc's hidden provocitive pictures is keeping me here. and my friend needed 30 minutes to bone his girlfriend before i come over to finish our homework. Ohh and it woulda been an hour if it was the other way around just in case all the girls are wondering.....no prolly not. FUCK
kooliganka
30 Mar 2005, 01:09 AM
Personally I am still more curious as to what *your* alias is (ever since you said you won't be posting here *as songbird* I have been). Of course this alias thing is stupid, since neither of you is banned and can use your regular nicks. So... why would zedo make a new account? Why can't he use it? How come you know about it? Kind of hard to think he shared his secret with you, given that you are not exactly best buddies... and why would you protect such a secret, given (again) that you are not best buddies?
You're missing the obvious, Vagabond. Songbird = EZ
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:09 AM
Hehe - I never knew you had that sort of humour Heeroguy.
So we've established it's theoretically possible to use proxies. That's as much as I need right now. There are lots of other clues as to Zedo and Boo being the same person that don't rely on IT issues:
* Timing of appearances on the forum
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
* Similarities in thought and expression
* Similarities in "abrasiveness"
* Recent posts by Boo which more or less give the game away.
Yes I think she's clever. Clever, and decidedly strange. I'm not clear on why anyone would want to do this.
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:09 AM
So, this is the new post whore thread?
OOOOOooooooo!!!! Oh to be spanked by Darth Vadar!!! Wow!!! THAT is a turn on!
And whore threads are wherever I post when I haven't had enough lately. :p
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:10 AM
songbird, I don't care which incarnation you show up as, you are still going to be some whackjob from New Zealand. I seriously think you should get psyciatrich help. I'm not even trying to be insulting. It seems like you have some legitamate problems that need some serious examination.
This got past drama a long time ago.
I think most of us are sitting back and laughing at how crazy this is and wondering what led you to these conclusions and what other conclusions you have concocted.
But I think you should stop now. At least for a while, and get some help for whatever is happening in your life that brought you to the "place" you are in now. It's not a healthy place and I think it's only getting inflamed by your presence here.
I can't say I speak for everyone, I imagine I don't, but your dogmatic approach to things, currently manifesting itself in this little game, is becoming not so funny anymore.
Why are you here then, and posting? You have choices. Go and make a serious argument about abortion, or Terri Schiavo, or something. I'd like to have something to critique!
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:11 AM
Hehe - I never knew you had that sort of humour Heeroguy.
So we've established it's theoretically possible to use proxies. That's as much as I need right now. There are lots of other clues as to Zedo and Boo being the same person that don't rely on IT issues:
* Timing of appearances on the forum
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
* Similarities in thought and expression
* Similarities in "abrasiveness"
* Recent posts by Boo which more or less give the game away.
Yes I think she's clever. Clever, and decidedly strange. I'm not clear on why anyone would want to do this.
Yes, but is Boo, EZ or EZ, Boo? I say that that really hadsome dude in EZ's pic is EZ and Boo's pic is just some girl.
DON'T take AWAY MY FANTASY!!!!!:cry:
So, this is the new post whore thread?
Yea, what he said.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:12 AM
Hehe - I never knew you had that sort of humour Heeroguy.
So we've established it's theoretically possible to use proxies. That's as much as I need right now. There are lots of other clues as to Zedo and Boo being the same person that don't rely on IT issues:
* Timing of appearances on the forum
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
* Similarities in thought and expression
* Similarities in "abrasiveness"
* Recent posts by Boo which more or less give the game away.
Yes I think she's clever. Clever, and decidedly strange. I'm not clear on why anyone would want to do this.
you forgot.......BOTH INTPS!!!! OH...MY...GOD..that kind of shit doesn't just happen.
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:12 AM
boo + EZ = boozy!
Where is boozer?!??!?
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:14 AM
ok, "booya" tends to be on the forum in the morning and afternoon around my class schedule and "zedo" tends to be on at night. I'm curious how "boozy" affords to sit on her/his ass all day. Did "I" inherit a massive fortune?
edit:
Where is boozer?!??!?
I've wondered that too....
Why are you here then, and posting? You have choices. Go and make a serious argument about abortion, or Terri Schiavo, or something. I'd like to have something to critique!
How about I do that after you and all your incarnations have gotten the help you need.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:15 AM
Hehe - I never knew you had that sort of humour Heeroguy.
So we've established it's theoretically possible to use proxies. That's as much as I need right now. There are lots of other clues as to Zedo and Boo being the same person that don't rely on IT issues:
* Timing of appearances on the forum
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
* Similarities in thought and expression
* Similarities in "abrasiveness"
* Recent posts by Boo which more or less give the game away.
Yes I think she's clever. Clever, and decidedly strange. I'm not clear on why anyone would want to do this.
Yes, but you're ignoring the fact that I have already looked into it, and it is OBVIOUS they are not the same person. If it's anything, Boo has to be impersonating EZ, as I can confirm the existence of Boo as a "real person" through fci, as he has met her in person.
It only takes on counterpoint to disprove an argument. Here it is. Do you have any other arguments :)
(Yes, I do have a sense of humor, I'm just selective of when I use it ;))
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:16 AM
* Timing of appearances on the forum
I looked this up already their join dates were months apart. HEY SO I"M A LITTLE NEUROTIC TOO.
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
They heart each other :wub:
* Similarities in thought and expression
what boo said
* Similarities in "abrasiveness"
what boo said
* Recent posts by Boo which more or less give the game away.
:huh:
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:16 AM
promise of cc's hidden provocitive pictures is keeping me here. and my friend needed 30 minutes to bone his girlfriend before i come over to finish our homework. Ohh and it woulda been an hour if it was the other way around just in case all the girls are wondering.....no prolly not. FUCK
Gee! At your age jyalulis it would be 15 minutes, then an hour, then two hours, then a 30 minute break, then 1 hour and gee! Lots of spanking too I hope. Haa!
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:16 AM
What is Zedo's job then? Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us on that (without identifying his place of work).
On the other hand, his job/abode will all be part of the invented persona.
He's been on for about 3 hours already (aka new identity) so I presume he's not working today?
lol
ok, I tend to be on the forum in the morning and afternoon around my class schedule and zedo tends to be on at night. I'm curious how "boozy" affords to sit on her/his ass all day. Did "I" inherit a massive fortune?
It's irrelavent. You could both show up at her house, be the people in the pictures, and she would still think it's a hoax.
Either songbird34 is delusional or she is a troll doing this for amusement. Either way I'd be for her not coming back.
boo + EZ = boozy!
Where is boozer?!??!?
The only boozer posting anymore is you, Mac.
[laughing]
I kid!
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:18 AM
* Close relationship that happened quickly and for little apparent reason
They heart each other :wub:
Yeah. This is why I say Boo is Z and Z hearts ME! :devil: or himself. :blink:
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:18 AM
Gee! At your age jyalulis it would be 15 minutes, then an hour, then two hours, then a 30 minute break, then 1 hour and gee! Lots of spanking too I hope. Haa!
Finally, this thread is going somewhere. Change it to jy and cc admins please.
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 01:18 AM
I must make a confession.
...
I am EZ.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:19 AM
Yes I could be posting from a padded cell for all you know. I may not be a lawyer, or have a job, at all.
Perhaps I am going shortly for my next round of ECT treatment.
What a delectable prospect!!
Sir Isaac Lime
30 Mar 2005, 01:19 AM
I must make a confession.
...
I am EZ.
No shit, all it took was a combo meal from McDonalds
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:19 AM
I must make a confession.
...
I am EZ.
:rofl:
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:20 AM
I must make a confession.
...
I am EZ.
No you're not. I spotted EZ's new identity instantly. He is very very obvious in his choice of name, and behaviour on the forum.
Sorry (perhaps you wanted to be EZ and I have ruined a fantasy).
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:20 AM
Yeah, just upping my post count.
s - people should drink more!
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:21 AM
Yes, but you're ignoring the fact that I have already looked into it, and it is OBVIOUS they are not the same person. If it's anything, Boo has to be impersonating EZ, as I can confirm the existence of Boo as a "real person" through fci, as he has met her in person.
It only takes on counterpoint to disprove an argument. Here it is. Do you have any other arguments :)
(Yes, I do have a sense of humor, I'm just selective of when I use it ;))
Oh! Pooh! :( No, I do like you Boo. But pooh! :( The non-existance of EZ would be very very very veryveryveryveryveyryevvyeryeryveysf sjsoa;;;;;klae;oiahs;dd,adhhaoses;h;as........daaefasdadadadadadadaadadadaadadadadaad.a.d.dldaldalaldalaldalaladlaladl.....
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 01:21 AM
I can't help it. I always fall for that 'smell my chloroform, bitch' line. It's a real classic.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:22 AM
What is Zedo's job then? Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us on that (without identifying his place of work).
On the other hand, his job/abode will all be part of the invented persona.
He's been on for about 3 hours already (aka new identity) so I presume he's not working today?
lol
*sigh*
He works at an industrial-type job at a paper factory. He went to college for 2 months then left. He plans on going back either next fall or next year to major in Industrial Design. He knows a lot about cars, I know zilch. He loves ESFPs. They annoy me. He's 6'4". I'm 5'8". He's 200 lbs. I'm 105 lbs. We like long walks on short piers.
Eileen
30 Mar 2005, 01:22 AM
Wow. I am honestly INCREDULOUS at this thread!
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:24 AM
Wow. I am honestly INCREDULOUS at this thread!
Just take the opportunity and whore it up!!!!!!!
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:24 AM
I can't help it. I always fall for that 'smell my chloroform, bitch' line. It's a real classic.
Huh? What does THAT mean? ARe YOU TALKING about ME! :angry: http://forums.intpcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=410
Sir Isaac Lime
30 Mar 2005, 01:25 AM
Huh? What does THAT me. ARe YOU TALKING about ME!
Nobodies talking about you. And stop posting that fucking picture!
:rant:
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:25 AM
There are now 26 people viewing the suggestions forum, and I doubt they're all reading Claverhouse's mod initiation speech.
Yes I could be posting from a padded cell for all you know. I may not be a lawyer, or have a job, at all.
Perhaps I am going shortly for my next round of ECT treatment.
What a delectable prospect!!
Not so much delectable. More probable an pitifull. You really are sad.
There is now 26 people viewing the suggestions forum, and I doubt they're all reading Claverhouse's mod initiation speech.
Go Claverhouse!!
Yeah, just upping my post count.
s - people should drink more!
I'll drink to that.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:27 AM
Oh noes!!! She posted so much she overflowed them buffers in the software post counter, which is, ya know, theoretically possible, and it negativized her post count!!! Oh noes! The end is near!
*smiles at the -3,000*
Of course, first the software had to alter the table to allow for negative integar numers, but, ya know, it's theoretically possible.
Sir Isaac Lime
30 Mar 2005, 01:28 AM
Go Claverhouse!!
Thanks mgbradsh.
Division56
30 Mar 2005, 01:29 AM
Oh noes!!! She posted so much she overflowed them buffers in the software post counter, which is, ya know, theoretically possible, and it negativized her post count!!! Oh noes! The end is near!
*smiles at the -3,000*
Of course, first the software had to alter the table to allow for negative integar numers, but, ya know, it's theoretically possible.
*looks around, horrified and in fear*
Just take the opportunity and whore it up!!!!!!!
I FEEL LIKE... FREE... LIKE CC! HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*insert far too many adorable smilies*
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:30 AM
Not so much delectable. More probable an pitifull. You really are sad.
DAMN YOUR AVATAR
Bob Barker: Tell her what she's won rod.
Rod (is he dead?): Sure thing Bob, Songbird has just won herself a free 18 month trip to the closest mental institution. There she'll be lavished with shock therapy and a full front lobotomy.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:30 AM
oh and no one's viewing the science forum. We might as well not even have an INTP profile up. IT'S ALL LIES! LIES I SAY
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:30 AM
*puts on his announcer voice*
Them duke boys sure are in trouble now, negativizing of post counts ain't happened in Duke county for a good long time!
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:31 AM
*sigh*
He works at an industrial-type job at a paper factory. He went to college for 2 months then left. He plans on going back either next fall or next year to major in Industrial Design. He knows a lot about cars, I know zilch. He loves ESFPs. They annoy me. He's 6'4". I'm 5'8". He's 200 lbs. I'm 105 lbs. We like long walks on short piers.
Oh thanks - you've convinced me now that you are separate people.
This was *all* the proof I needed. I'm quite sure it would stand up in court.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:32 AM
Oh thanks - you've convinced me now that you are separate people.
This was *all* the proof I needed. I'm quite sure it would stand up in court.
I'm quite sure any court would consider this a valid case. Or not.
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:32 AM
Nobodies talking about you. And stop posting that fucking picture!
:rant:
Deleted. Shit! She's right! 26 people, all making copies of my pic! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! 8O
:devil: (jk)
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:33 AM
Not so much delectable. More probable an pitifull. You really are sad.
You're not even funny. You're lowering the humour standards on this thread if nothing else.
Hey - maybe *you're* Zedo Mach 3.
CreativeChaos
30 Mar 2005, 01:33 AM
There are now 26 people viewing the suggestions forum, and I doubt they're all reading Claverhouse's mod initiation speech.
Uh, what mod intitiation speech? :blush:
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:33 AM
And btw it's spelt "pitiful". Just for clarification.
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:35 AM
http://www.frashii.com/wldo.swf
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:35 AM
Uh, what mod intitiation speech? :blush:
in this thread http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=3403 at bottom of 1st page
There are now 26 people viewing the suggestions forum, and I doubt they're all reading Claverhouse's mod initiation speech.
Claver has quite the fan club, I hear. He IS the most compelling jacobite on intpcentral.
Vagabond
30 Mar 2005, 01:35 AM
Know what, *I* am Zedo. I did say I would refuse to post my phone number on the board, after all...:ph34r:
You're not even funny. You're lowering the humour standards on this thread if nothing else.
Hey - maybe *you're* Zedo Mach 3.
I'm not trying to be funny. I really think you are a sad and pitiful person.
You obviously have some sort of gigantic hole in your life and you are trying to fill it with this Zedo/booyalab thing. And I really do think you need to talk to someone about whatever caused the hole.
edit:I think everyone else sees it too, and are joking about it because they don't know what else to do.
ApeTheDog
30 Mar 2005, 01:38 AM
I think the lack of conclusive proof may be due to nobody wanting to go out and put in the effort of coming up with it, rather than due to it not existing. I for one would never phone somebody to know if they were real unless I had a very good reason and a wish for doing this - and the only person here who has a reason for doing this seems to be you, songbird34. I think you will need to find the proof yourself.
I think it would be healthy for you if you relaxed and stopped taking this seriously, as you seem to be getting upset and that is not needed. Is this really what you want to be doing right now? Is this who you want to be?
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:38 AM
I think it's her -3000 posts she's trying to fill. But that's just me.
Seriously SB, let it fucking go. It's a forum for cthulhu's sake!
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:39 AM
You *still* can't spell pitiful. That is truly tragic.
Yes I do have a hole. The hole relates to the lack of abstract philosophical debate in my real life due to an overabundance of "SJ" type friends.
The Zedo hole I could have done without. My repeated efforts to make it stop did not bear fruit unfortunately.
Ape - I'm not upset any more. I simply want the real Zedo to stand up and be counted. I note that he's watching this thread (from the paper factory) but not posting. An interesting strategy.
CapnEnnui
30 Mar 2005, 01:39 AM
*I* am Spartacus!
Stem
30 Mar 2005, 01:39 AM
Whoa! You guys actually do this to your own members?
Nighthawk
30 Mar 2005, 01:40 AM
I'M Spartacus!!!
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:41 AM
Whoa! You guys actually do this to your own members?
Look at her history, including a temporary ban, and you'll understand why :)
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:41 AM
Whoa! You guys actually do this to your own members?
Yeah man there ain't no extra lives here or magic flowers that make you throw fireballs. WELCOME TO INTP HELLFEST
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:41 AM
*I* am Spartacus!
*single tear*
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:41 AM
_I_ am spartacus. That's why no one can find him, I'm covering my, his, our trail.
*I* am Spartacus!
Shit, that is good.
[laughing like a lunatic]
Solo
30 Mar 2005, 01:42 AM
I would post something intelligent but what is the point? Why is this thread not deleted? This has got to be one of the most pointless threads I have ever read.
I hope you all enjoy this silly little drama you seem to be so engaged in. And people tell me I'm immature because I'm fifteen:rolleyes2
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:43 AM
I'm sixteen, yet I engage in this because once it reaches a point it isn't even sad anymore, it's hilariously paranoid and foolish to continue. But why not? I have nothing better to waste this tuesday on.
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:43 AM
I would post something intelligent but what is the point? Why is this thread not deleted? This has got to be one of the most pointless threads I have ever read.
I hope you all enjoy this silly little drama you seem to be so engaged in. And people tell me I'm immature because I'm fifteen:rolleyes2
I think 9 out of 10 (as long as the 10th is songbird) of us are just having fun.
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:43 AM
So you all are Spartacus, eh?
[crucifies whole forum]
Always look on the bright side of life!
jyakulis
30 Mar 2005, 01:44 AM
I would post something intelligent but what is the point? Why is this thread not deleted? This has got to be one of the most pointless threads I have ever read.
I hope you all enjoy this silly little drama you seem to be so engaged in. And people tell me I'm immature because I'm fifteen:rolleyes2
Please see mr. belding section of thread.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:44 AM
You're telling me the thread about dick size isn't pointless? Or the one about breast size?
Hello..welcome to the rarified world of the forum Solo!
Stem
30 Mar 2005, 01:44 AM
They were told to take it to pm and then an admin created a public thread about it?
Huh...what? Why is everyone involved?
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:45 AM
They were told to take it to pm and then an admin created a public thread about it?
Huh...what? Why is everyone involved?
zedo is no longer involved, now it's SB against the world.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:45 AM
Life's a peice of shit, when you look at it, life's a laugh, and death's a joke, it's true. You'll see it's all a show, just keep on laughing as you go, just remember that the last laugh is on you, and....
See, you started out with nuffin, you're going back to nuffin, whatcha lost? Nuffin!
Send in the suicide squad to scare off MacGuffin.
(sorry, monty python reference, couldn't stop)
But seriously, yes, this is all just one big joke, and we should seriously disable post count setting for this entire thread.
So you all are Spartacus, eh?
[crucifies whole forum]
Always look on the bright side of life!
*wine shoots through s' nose and onto monitor*
Division56
30 Mar 2005, 01:46 AM
They were told to take it to pm and then an admin created a public thread about it?
Huh...what? Why is everyone involved?
Hello Mike. :)
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:46 AM
Zedo I know you are watching now.
I challenge you to log out as your new ID and log back as Zedo, and post something to clear up this terrible misapprehension that I have fallen under.
The credibility of this forum demands it I say..
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:46 AM
They were told to take it to pm and then an admin created a public thread about it?
Huh...what? Why is everyone involved?
An admin posted a thread explaining the EZ and SB bans, and SB started this, now it's just a laugh, and there is a good chance it'll be shutdown by the end of the night. But until then, it's funny...if nothing else, it needs moved so it won't up people's post counts.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:47 AM
Ah Stem is Mike?
The plot thickens. Is he Zedo too?
booyalab
30 Mar 2005, 01:47 AM
*wine shoots through s' nose and onto monitor*
you mean it's possible to enjoy this even more??? gimme summa dat!
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:48 AM
Don't move it PLEASE!!!!
Just lock it!
This is the best ESFJ thread ever on INTPcentral.
songbird36
30 Mar 2005, 01:48 AM
zedo is no longer involved, now it's SB against the world.
Aha but he is watching from a friendly distance.
Don't make me blow his cover Boo - bring him back on to face his accuser!
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:49 AM
Hello Mike. :)
And someone got pwned :). But you requested a ban, as such, your ip address is hereby banned as per your request.
Stem
30 Mar 2005, 01:50 AM
Ah Stem is Mike?
The plot thickens. Is he Zedo too?
8O
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:50 AM
This thread pwns!
you mean it's possible to enjoy this even more??? gimme summa dat!
Sure here. *hands glass* Mike.. I mean, Stem has the smoke. *winks*
Claverhouse
30 Mar 2005, 01:52 AM
You want it locked... ?
Claverhouse :ph34r:
And someone got pwned :). But you requested a ban, as such, your ip address is hereby banned as per your request.
You scored some major cool points in this thread, Heero.
MacGuffin
30 Mar 2005, 01:53 AM
You want it locked... ?
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Not at all, but I prefer a lock to a move into the mod subforum.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 01:57 AM
No need yet, we'll discuss though claverhouse, I'd vote we move to somewhere post counts don't elevate as this _IS_ a hilarious fun thread now, not a suggestion.
heeroyuy
30 Mar 2005, 02:09 AM
Admins all agree no need to lock, as stated, but we'll probably move it. Sorry for confusion.
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