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Johnny
16 Aug 2004, 12:02 AM
To balance the now extinct War Thread, I wish now to offer a Peace Thread. To kick it off, I wish to offer my reasons for starting the War Thread.

Firstly, part of the INTP description in Myers-Briggs is the interest in this personality preference to display the qualities of iconoclasticism. For the forum here, it seems to exist in a form that rails against things such as sexual conservatism, religious intolerance, economic and social inequality, et al. I did make a conscious decision when joining this forum a while back to deliver an image that, in part, railed also against the image of the iconoclast that is manifesting itself here as I understand it (and that, frankly, is all I’ve got to work with in the end…so please know that I agree with any claims that I do not know “ALL”).

Secondly, the Myers-Briggs description of the INTP is one who, when it comes to interacting with the world, prefers to offer intuition and feeling so that thinking and sensing can remain unmolested in its preference for introversion in such a way as to display the qualities of Perception. This is where I understand that some members here are offering the interesting notion that I am displaying something more akin an INTJ personality preference rather than INTP – that I am not truly offering intuition and feeling to the forum in a manner that indicates openness and flexibility, but thinking and strong judgment instead. I wanted to "feel" these assertions out in an unorthodox manner.

Lastly, there is something that I did not wish to share with most members of this forum – I possess an understanding of myself and the world that has very little of the likeness that my understanding displayed when I was in my late teens and early twenties. You could say that there is little of me that is “young at heart” now. I revealed this early on because I do not believe that I am able to pull off the claim that I’m still a teenager. :lol: But I think it is challenging the younger members here to picture someone who is older but is searching for answers to life just the same.

So I wanted to give these things a shot, to see how my intuition and feeling functions, when extraverted, would work when posting the first things that came to me. It was an interesting experience, to say the least.

As we all do, I have my ideas of people, the world, right, wrong, love, happiness, religion, politics, Jung’s psychological types and MBTI, et al...even if they remain open-ended. But as they are not the same now as they were when I was young, as I get older my ideas will undoubtedly change with me as I continue to learn and grow. So please accept this lengthy post as my offer for Peace amongst any member of this forum who I have intentionally or unintentionally offended through my now extinct war thread.

Claverhouse
16 Aug 2004, 01:01 AM
Actually, I'm offended. Not deeply, but still.

Having started to post on the war thread my ISP cut out ( 'Anytime' = 2hr cut-outs, not sure why ), so I went off and did something else. And I'd voted that it should be visible to all.

Being unsure I'm an INTP, I took all the posts as personal attacks upon myself, but that's probably just the usual paranoia. As an idle thought might I suggest there are subsets among the types ?

Still, why should all INTPs be expected to share the same values or beliefs ? This for instance will be a rare instance where I post in the Mature section, cos I don't believe in sharing that stuff much; but it pleases others.

I can't remember that much of the thread, except that lots of people said fuck a lot, since my memory is appalling: but I seem to recall you suggesting some were too self-absorbed: well, perhaps they, or I, am; but that is surely their way of finding themselves. To suggest they should do something alien to their nature won't encourage them. We should just hope nihilists and atheists don't work out the real meaning of the freedom from constraint imposed by the lack of God.
:rofl:

And if there's anyone I've offended, believe me from the bottom of my heart, I don't care that much.
:ph34r:

in fear and trembling

regards


Claverhouse :ph34r:

jittus rye
16 Aug 2004, 01:09 AM
We each are against our own things. No matter what someone's personality type, they are undoubtably going to behave and believe noticably different than others similar. Perhaps this isn't true, but dear god, I hope it is. See, my god, is me. Kind of fun that you consider your "war thread" an experiment, which it was. Should it be encouraged that other members do the same? No. Does it matter? Not really. Would it be amusing? Yes. Do I know why I am posting this? No. See, that is the beauty of the human experience, as my 'wacked out' pysch teacher likes to say. It is interesting how people behave when they are offended at least. Let's do an examination of the textbook "INTP's" reaction to something offensive. Well, if it is an emotional response, you can throw a few preconcieved notions about people's behavior right out the window. Huh.

Needless to say, you deserve a good "smack bottom." I only think that because you had the general feel of disregarding other's intellegence.

Melody
16 Aug 2004, 01:47 AM
Well, I am a "textbook" "INTP." My reaction to something offensive to me is becoming very, very quiet and calculating. That has not happened for a long time, though. And these forums are certainly not offensive, especially because I am so awesome.

In any case, if you are offended by something, you are using emotion. Facts by themselves have no capacity to offend anyone.

Johnny
16 Aug 2004, 02:06 AM
We should just hope nihilists and atheists don't work out the real meaning of the freedom from constraint imposed by the lack of God.
Gentlemen such as Nietzche and Sartre have proposed as much already, in a rather effective, if brutal and unpopular, manner. Luckily, I still have a choice. :D


Needless to say, you deserve a good "smack bottom." I only think that because you had the general feel of disregarding other's intellegence.
My feelings on certain issues remain, Firechoice, though I will not again share them or support the threads from which they were inspired. The thread has been removed. Bring it back, and we can debate on the matter futher before I agree to your judgment and sentence.

Utopmk
16 Aug 2004, 02:13 AM
I still say you can suck my balls.

Melody
16 Aug 2004, 02:25 AM
yep yep

I might jump around like a goof, but I indeed am "textbook."

If my logic is underestimated, it is easier to bite people in the ass while they are not looking. Everyone should feel free to judge. ^.^

jittus rye
16 Aug 2004, 02:33 AM
Wow, that almost makes me... attracted.

Not in any freaky homosexual sort of way mind you. All homo's feel free not to be offended that I said freaky, I don't mind you.

jimkopelli
16 Aug 2004, 02:58 AM
I'm just glad I had a chance to read the war thread before it went away... it was very interesting.

paladinoflunaria
16 Aug 2004, 03:31 AM
Well, I am a "textbook" "INTP." My reaction to something offensive to me is becoming very, very quiet and calculating. That has not happened for a long time, though. And these forums are certainly not offensive, especially because I am so awesome.

In any case, if you are offended by something, you are using emotion. Facts by themselves have no capacity to offend anyone.

That's my thought exactly. I am also a textbook INTP, if you can't tell from my scores.

int
16 Aug 2004, 04:53 AM
I said it before here:

http://intp.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=68&st=20

Even twins argue sometimes.

Avengardh
16 Aug 2004, 06:37 AM
It was fun while it lasted, I didn't get offended, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and that's about it, life goes on.

~*Aven*~

int
16 Aug 2004, 06:45 AM
It was fun while it lasted, I didn't get offended, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and that's about it, life goes on.

~*Aven*~

:)


<edit> I had some edits, but decided against. I'm an idiot, don't mind me.</edit>

Melody
16 Aug 2004, 07:13 AM
I am also a textbook INTP, if you can't tell from my scores.
Not a bad idea. I should reveal my scores as well.

sme_bro
16 Aug 2004, 09:29 AM
It was fun while it lasted, I didn't get offended, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and that's about it, life goes on.

~*Aven*~

:)


<edit> I had some edits, but decided against. I'm an idiot, don't mind me.</edit>

:hello: me too, i just took it as a chance to really complain, was fun