How do you like small kids?

[KentOhio]

This, I guess, goes for babies up to age 7 or so. (Partially inspired by all you world solution scientists out there wanting to ban children.)

[Jezebel]

It really depends on the individual kids. Some are fun, some I can't stand. A lot of it also has to do with the parenting. I can't stand kids who act like spoiled brats who don't have to do anything anyone says because "you're not my mommy" and go around annoying other people and acting like pests, but I'm even more annoyed by the parents who let them behave like that.

[Crazy]

Medium rare, with a twist of lemon and a sprig of parsley. :devil:




they're cool, but only in small doses. After too long they become clingy and needy, always begging for attention, and that doesn't jive well with me.

[shaytana]

Yes, small doses. The way that they strive for attention drains me, mainly because I will usually give it to the kid ... at first anyways. My best friend has two kids, girl is 9 and boy is 11. I like to teach them, maybe guide them a little, but with smaller kids I like to play with them and find their potential, see what they are good at and encourage it.

[MacGuffin]

I am not too keen on them. Too ignorant to have a conversation with, and they are attention whores.

Some are ok. And when they calm down you can play with them. But when they get wound up, or have bad parents, or eat sugar, or....

[file cabinet]

keep them away but maybe my tune will change if I ever have kids? who knows

[BritainOphira]

I avoid them like the plague, except for one three year old cousin, mainly because he is probably the most intelligent person I will ever have the honour of meeting. He's had a larger vocabulary than I have since he was about two (and, amazingly, he uses every word correctly).

[Vagabond]

When you make a kid believe you take them seriously and treat them as grown-ups, they are way interesting - all the reactivity is left aside, because kids (for some strange reason, lol) admire us... thinking that we are actually considering them as equals (well, almost - you still have to have the upper hand) makes them feel honoured. It is miraculous.

[Crazy]

When you make a kid believe you take them seriously and treat them as grown-ups, they are way interesting - all the reactivity is left aside, because kids (for some strange reason, lol) admire us... thinking that we are actually considering them as equals (well, almost - you still have to have the upper hand) makes them feel honoured. It is miraculous.

Nearly impossible to do as a parent. They will think they are equals, and every time they misbehave, they will get punished and stop thinking you are equals.

[Vagabond]

I don't know about parents... I do this with other people's kids... =P

[Melody]

When you make a kid believe you take them seriously and treat them as grown-ups, they are way interesting - all the reactivity is left aside, because kids (for some strange reason, lol) admire us... thinking that we are actually considering them as equals (well, almost - you still have to have the upper hand) makes them feel honoured. It is miraculous.

Nearly impossible to do as a parent. They will think they are equals, and every time they misbehave, they will get punished and stop thinking you are equals.
I agree with Vagabond. And, I love children! They're so cute! ^.^ Not to mention they are much quicker of the mind than people give them credit for.

Punishment is not an issue if you express to them that what they did is not right, in such a manner as to not talk down to them. If the child respects you, they will follow what you say. If parents have to punish their children to get their point across, I think the parents have not performed well.

[paladinoflunaria]

It depends. If the kid is a genius, it's fun to watch them figure stuff out. If they're dumb, or if they're old enough to have already conformed, then I don't enjoy them. Those kids are the same old slop as most everyone else- they get old.

[int]

I'll let you know in February... :)

[Vagabond]

That's the best month you could get. B)

[ohnoaninfp]

They are ok. I love my little cousins they are so cute and they are fun to be around. I don't really like bratty kids they are annoying. I want to have kids someday, but not now.

[CosmicDust]

I don't mind them generally. Whether I lean more towards liking or disliking being around them probably depends on my mood.

I'm thinking that if I ever met an Aspie small child who could already discuss Socrates (or something similarly complex), I'd probably hit it off with him or her. An old lady - a relative of my stepdad - once told me about a little Aspie boy in her family and said I'd probably get along well with him. She said he liked to read about the workings of the inner ear. It's the INTP 5w6 nerd vibe, I tell ya.

[MasterMerk]

I'm not overly fond of kids. They take up alot of time, and I'm not one for looking after them either.

[antireconciler]

I'm with Vaga and Melody. Children are remarkably able to mirror the people they are around a lot, so, with children that are yours or you are around a lot, you're partially dealing with yourself. Children are also very easy to read because they have unsophisticated barriers and few of them, so, given your patience, it is easy to understand thier desires and act appropriatly ... even if it means they end up screaming a little.

... theoretically. I wouldn't know, though. I find children fascinating in any case.

[Avengardh]

I am one at heart, really, I still act like a kid a lot when around people that know me well.

It's not that I don't like them (the ones that are annoying...ugh...) but they follow me and like me for some reason, which kinda creeps me out...so I just avoid them, unless they win me over...some really can.

~*Aven*~

[Spartan26]

Not into little kids. Bunch of crybabies. Which, in and of itself is fine, but I don't know what to do. Like, I don't want to make faces or dance around for them because that's just enabling. The blowfish face only works once or twice and then they're into the harder stuff.

Plus, now, I don't think you're supposed to stop them from crying. Stress relief, lung development, growing pains, validation, whatever. As long as it's not disturbing a nap (my nap) or the last two minutes of a ball game, I say let 'em wail. Only that exposes you to a major liability. You can't be a grown man around a crying kid for too long before someone assumes you caused it. :o But, what's even worse is when you try to make the kids stop and someone only sees you trying to frantically get them to stop. Try finding a constitutional amendment to get out of that! Not only have you injured them but now you're causing emotional scars by making them surpress their feelings.

I say wait until they're in high school and starting to make some decent money that you can win off of them at blackjack. :cheers: High schoolers will always hit 17. ALWAYS! :devil: :devil: :devil:

[Crazy]

When you make a kid believe you take them seriously and treat them as grown-ups, they are way interesting - all the reactivity is left aside, because kids (for some strange reason, lol) admire us... thinking that we are actually considering them as equals (well, almost - you still have to have the upper hand) makes them feel honoured. It is miraculous.

Nearly impossible to do as a parent. They will think they are equals, and every time they misbehave, they will get punished and stop thinking you are equals.
I agree with Vagabond. And, I love children! They're so cute! ^.^ Not to mention they are much quicker of the mind than people give them credit for.

Punishment is not an issue if you express to them that what they did is not right, in such a manner as to not talk down to them. If the child respects you, they will follow what you say. If parents have to punish their children to get their point across, I think the parents have not performed well.

Mine is three and a half and is already trying to get away with stuff. He is a little Ferris Beuller! The whole thing with going to mommy if daddy says no, waiting till your not looking, and complaining by trying to reason. If he wants to be carried, or he wants out of his car seat, he will say it hurts. He catches on quick. He understands more than other kids his age, and has a good memory, but he only does that for things that he is interested in. And the of course is the light blonde hair and big blue eyes, he knows how to use them to his advantage.

[Melody]

lol

[Miss Padfoot]

I think preschool-aged kids are wonderful. I don't like changing diapers so I'm not crazy about babysitting kids who are younger than three. But I love kids from ages 3 to 7 or thereabouts.

What I try to do with kids, whenever I'm around them, is to teach them how to think for themselves. And they can do it. I just set an example for them most of the time - stay positive, calm, motivating, and above all, reasonable. And of course, I talk to them like mature people. When they try to argue with you by reasoning, I don't see that as a problem. Just reason back at them. They'll get it. And if you can't reason back, if you can't back up your rules and restrictions with fairness and logic, you're probably not treating them fairly. Sure, they cry sometimes, but when they do, I just try and work out why, then I help them figure out how to solve the problem.

[cloakable]

Well, I voted the Socrates option. I don't discriminate on age, but on intelligence (and knowlege, but to a lesser degree). I supose you could say I'm an IQist - I discriminate based on IQ :ph34r:.

[jimkopelli]

Roasted on a stick with pineapple sauce... oh, you mean as people... Oh. It depends. If it's the running around and screaming variety, then no, I'm not a fan. But some I like. I helped every day after school in my mom's 2nd grade classroom for a few hours, and there was something about walking in the door and being an instant distraction ("It's Jim! Jim is here!" etc...)

[greenintp]

INTP kids are fine

[Almaviva]

When you make a kid believe you take them seriously and treat them as grown-ups, they are way interesting - all the reactivity is left aside, because kids (for some strange reason, lol) admire us... thinking that we are actually considering them as equals (well, almost - you still have to have the upper hand) makes them feel honoured. It is miraculous.


This comment made me laugh, because I *do* take kids seriously and actually consider them as equals. (Maybe this means I wouldn't make a good parent. I'm not sure I'll ever want to find out :) )

I can remember what it was like to be 8, and really, minus the experience it isn't all that different from being 28. Okay, maybe I was a little smarter then, and learned things faster, and had a better memory, and had some wild ideas:)

[Sam172]

I hate children. I loath them. They scream, they kick, they can't hold up a decent debate about metaphysics without resorting to putting thier fingers in their ears or just randomly jumping around and drooling, they have little respect for elders - especially when armed with a water pistol, they cry really really loudly and they want chocolate....sooo much chocolate.

So, that's where I stand...and i'm only 16 :p

[Boneca]

Ugh.
Lets put it this way: I like puppies. Puppies can be annoying, dependant and break your stuff, but they are also cute and fluffy. Children are like puppies, minus the cute and fluffy part. And they take ten times as long to housetrain.

But I agree with some of the above posts, there are exceptions. Smart, quiet kids can be quite fun to talk to. For a short period of time.

[booyalab]

My sister was hilarious when she was little and smart too (she's 9 now so I have to practice not calling her little). The Bush/Gore race occurred when she was in kindergarten I believe, so they had one of those little fake elections. My mom told her , only half-jokingly, that if she didn't vote republican she wasn't getting dinner that night. So my sister intentionally voted Green and Independent across the board. And she was only like 5 at the time!

[Anacaona]

I don't like when they are "hyperactive", I prefer quiet and curious children.

[SheepDog]

I'll let you know in February... :)
March for us.

[Zero Angel]

I like kids, they amuse me.

I used to dislike kids until my sister had her baby, she's like a little puppy, when I come and visit shes always super happy to see me. The problem is when they dont know when to stop using you as a playground; some of my small cousins are like that, but its all good.

[SheepDog]

I have to admit that developmental psychology is interesting. I'm reading a lot about child development, in anticipation of our new arrival. After reading, I see my nieces and nephews and see the stages they're in, what they're going through. When I interact with them now, I have a bit more of a clue as to what they're dealing with, and am able to do a bit better about dealing with them at their level. When I get it right, there's a big spark in their eyes. It's great.

[synchronous]

I spent a good time reading about developmental psychology before my first arrived. It certainly helped to understand my children better and deal with the stages. I think that is half the battle. Once you understand what's going on, you can enjoy the experience much more.

[SheepDog]

Good to hear that, synchronous. I'm looking forward to it very, very much.

[Zero Angel]

I like small kids nice and crispy, with a side of potatoes.

"Shall we burn our little wicker virgins? Or shall we have them nice and crispy?"

Can anyone guess where that is from? (without using search)

[int]

I spent a good time reading about developmental psychology before my first arrived. It certainly helped to understand my children better and deal with the stages. I think that is half the battle. Once you understand what's going on, you can enjoy the experience much more.

Any book suggestions?

Please?

[anarchist]

the age range matters...i like kids who r 1-3 yrs old...no need to carry them around....

[synchronous]

Any book suggestions?

Please?

Well, what I have is years old, and I read many books from the library that I do not personally own. When I return home in a couple of weeks, I can post my collection in this thread. In any case, if you want books that strictly discuss theory, look for ones that discuss Erik Erikson's theories on child development, and Jean Piaget's work on cognitive development. My collection includes one university book on the theories of cognitive development. Reading about cognitive helped me understand when to best influence your child's cognitive development. Years 0-5 is when the major neurological imprinting happens. If you are interested in maximizing your child's intellectual potential, the first years are some of the most important.

I have one book that essentially served as my survival guide. It covers the basics in stages of child development in terms of emotional, physical and cognitive - what to look for at what stage, how long the stages last, and provides some guidance an average range for the development to occur so that you have some knowledge as to treat a suspected problem seriously or not. It also covers the common ailments - what to expect, how to treat them, and when to seek professional help.

I have several books on parenting philosophies - I don't agree with corporal punishment or some of the parenting techniques that seem to be commonly accepted by the SJ world, so, I was looked for alternatives, or better solutions. There are different parenting styles and techniques. I looked for a parenting style and technique that was child-lead, that I thought would foster trust and emotional security, healthy self esteem and the best potential for high intellectual (check out Gardner's theories on multiple intelligence) growth and creativity. Look for books that discuss positive and negative reinforcement (not punishment). I usually picked up books that were knowledge based, that provided researched evidence on the effectiveness of certain styles and techniques. Interesting factoids you can collect. One that I found interesting: you can knock off something close to 10% of your child's IQ level by continously putting him/her down, calling him/her dumb/stupid/idiot. Essentially, if the child hears it enough times, he/she starts to believe he/she is unable to intellectually perform to the level he/she actually is capable of performing. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I found what suited best for my phylosophy was something similar to Montessori or immersion mothering/parenting. But, it is for you to decide what suits you best.

Amazon.com is a good place to start looking for books.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716723093/73008-20/104-5258895-5131962

As well, I suggest going to second hand book stores to find used university books on child development theories. Look for recent editions. Anyhow, this is off the top of my head, about all i can offer up at the moment.

[int]

Thanks. I'd still be interested in the specific books you've read, so when you get the chance...

My sister is way into child development (got a masters in it) and is a teacher, but I can't go to her for this kind of stuff because I think we're going to have very different parenting styles. I find her extremely overbearing - and the fact that she's still tied to a baby monitor (the kid is 2 and a half) scares me. It's probably my fault she doesn't know me too well, but her advice so far has pretty much been the anti-me. My response to everything is "it depends on the kid" as I don't believe in set rules, just in what works for the particular kid in question.

Of course, we'll see whether or not my head is up my ass on this or not.

Anyways, if you, or anyone else, has any other tips, tricks, or advice, I still need it - now that the heart palpatations and panic attacks have stopped.

[SheepDog]

int,

I've enjoyed several books by T. Berry Brazelton:
"Sleep"
"Discipline"
"Touchpoints Birth-3"
"The Irreducible Needs of Children" (with Greenspan)

And another one I liked is
"Raising Self-Reliant Children in a Self-Indulgent World : Seven Building Blocks for Developing Capable Young People"
by H. STEPHEN GLENN, JANE ED.D. NELSEN

and
"Your Child's Growing Mind : Brain Development and Learning From Birth to Adolescence"
by JANE HEALY

[synchronous]

My sister is way into child development (got a masters in it) and is a teacher, but I can't go to her for this kind of stuff because I think we're going to have very different parenting styles. I find her extremely overbearing - and the fact that she's still tied to a baby monitor (the kid is 2 and a half) scares me. It's probably my fault she doesn't know me too well, but her advice so far has pretty much been the anti-me. My response to everything is "it depends on the kid" as I don't believe in set rules, just in what works for the particular kid in question.

Yes, it's been my response too. Every child is different. My style is very much child-lead, although, there are limits. Children need reliable boundaries. The baby monitor thing is a bit off the top IMO. lol.

I felt a fair amount of anxiety the first few years for two reasons. One was that I had trouble reading the emotional needs of my children. Some parents can instinctually read the cries of their babies. I had to work that out intellectually, and I presume this to be an issue with most INTPs. The other was taking a position on a parenting style and techniques that countered S convention - adopting techniques that showed evidence of effectiveness - not just settling on what everyone else was doing. Doing so essentially puts you at odds with many parents and family members.

If I were in your shoes though, the one person I would be concerned about is your wife. What's her position on parenting styles? Are you both on the same page? Each type sees parenting differently and the differences often get played out and adds stress to the marriage. If you both see parenting differently, it's probably a good idea to come to some compromise some time down the road, or at least understand your partner's point of view. In any case, anxiety is commonly felt by most if not all parents, regardless of type. You are not alone... lol

[SheepDog]

One of the Needs in the book I mentioned above "The Irreducible Needs of Children" is "The Need for Experiences Tailored to Individual Differences". I guess that's part of why I like this author. Most parents seem to figure out that each child is different, but IMHO, not all of them seem to figure out how to deal with their differences. There's a presumed need to treat children "fairly" which implies "the same" to some. That just doesn't seem fair to me (irony noted).

[int]

My wife and I are a good match and I'm not too worried about her - we're in agreement on most things. We have similiar anxieties though, so I'm actually asking for us both.

[synchronous]

One last piece of advice I would offer is to find a book that discusses mbti personality types through the stages of development. Something that helps you identify temperament and offers a general guide like the information in this link:

http://www.personalitypage.com/kid_info.html

As you probably know from your experience with MBTI personality theory, it is not perfect. But, I think having some information that covers basic temperament issues and general guidance is important, especially if you and your wife plan to adopt a child-led parenting style.

[heeroyuy]

Missing option: Roasted, with a side of farver beans.

Seriously though, kids are alright...but only in short bursts.

[Six]

it so depends...

I love those kids that come up to me telling me about their favorite gecko or how to fly a kite... and they all but blubber with joy and excitement and are fun to talk to :)

and then there is the kind of kid who can't bare not be in the focus of everyone's attention and ensure being there by being obnoxious...
or the kind that looks at you with this rather dumb (sorry) look on their faces like you are a very weird species... which you even might be, but how would they know...
and behind all that I know that it's not their fault to be like that...that it might have something to do with their even more annoying parents... which is sad but doesn't make me like them one bit more... :ph34r:

[sowega]

Perhaps I may be of some help since I have a 16-month old.

I have had a few anxiety issues,especially in the beginning since I would be at a loss and not know what to expect. Each time my little girl would cry I would over intellectualize, instead of getting more in touch of her emotions and needs.

As an extreme iNtuitive, I would highly suggest that you keep in touch at all times with your parental intincts as they are going to be right many times. It was even found that parents were able to detect 80% of all developmental delays in their own children without profession assistance. Thankfully, I haven't detected any in mine yet.

The other part of my suggestion is to persistantly be a supportive (both intellectually and emotionally), authoratative (not authoritarian), playful and loving parent. I would also highly suggest that you refrain from exercising any sort of physical or corporal punishment. If you feel that strongly about spanking, than saving for the absolute last resort and not to go above the head area.

I can honestly say that it was very painful for an INTP like myself to be raised by rule-ridden authoritarian father. My father would hit and yell quite frequently, was very emotionally distant, did not allow me or my older brothers to speak during meal times, at least one passage from the Bible had to be read before starting each meal, not one Church service was allowed to be missed, I being the only girl was very seldomly allowed to go out, and if so be back by 8:00 pm; and most painfully was not allowed to either date any guys or even associate with them until I graduated from high school. Honestly I grew up fearing and not loving my father. Is that the kind of parenting a child deserves? :rant:

My third point of my advice, is to nourish the relationship you have with your spouse. That is the best you can to for child.

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INTP; 5w6 :) :)

[sasapurdue]

I don't like kids, I don't know what to do with them, how to hold them, what to say to them etc. I have held a baby like once and it was really weird and ackward and I just wanted to give it back to its mom.
but i bet when/if i have my own kids I will think they are great.

[attila_the_hunny]

I don't love children per se, but I love their innocence. They don't know what is in the dark other than boogeymen and everything from the sky to a bug to the grass is magical.

[EmmaPeel]

I adore children. The younger, the better. I have two nieces but none of my own. :( Holidays are boring if there are no children around.

[aklight]

I think they are funny but I have no experience with them. I like them.

[attila_the_hunny]

Holidays are boring if there are no children around.

But they're less expensive and less stressful.

[cafe]

But they're less expensive and less stressful.
No doubt. Mine are all older than the poll ages now, but last Christmas Eve, I was lounging on the couch watching a nice Christmas movie. I was snuggling one of the brood and discovered she had headlice. So we spent an exciting, expensive holiday washing hair and bedding and combing nits. So fun.

[spasmfrog]

My kid is the greatest kid in the world. All others are fun at times, but it's nice to be able to send them back to their parents.

[Monica]

I don't have any yet, but I don't have anything against them. I have babysat in highschool and played with other people's kids. I don't drool over them when I see them, though. Actually, I love kids. I can't wait to have some in a couple years.

[cafe]

My kid is the greatest kid in the world. All others are fun at times, but it's nice to be able to send them back to their parents.
I'm basically of the same school of thought. I always loved kids and babysat and helped with the kids at church when I was younger. I wanted a big family and made one. My children are beautiful, brilliant, and endlessly fascinating. Other people's children range from 'fine in small doses' to 'unbearably annoying.'

[Ivy]

I don't think I could answer the original question, since kids are as different as adults. It's like asking "how do you like 20 year olds?" Well, I like some of them a lot, and some of them are douchebags. As a result, I'm trying to raise my own kids not to be douchebags. Maybe that's what I'll call my parenting book: "How Not To Raise A Douchebag."

[Rajah]

I think they're fascinating -- my son is 20 months old, and is changing everyday. It's awesome how inquisitive kids that age are, how quickly they learn. Plus, my son thinks that I'm great and that I have a fabulous singing voice, so I'll take it while I can.

[ATPB]

I'm good with children, and I believe they're keen on me too since I'm generally happy not to act like a nazi around them.

Also, I think they're interesting since I get the feeling that there's the possiblity I can mold them into mini-versions of myself. :)

[Kristiana]

They're fun for gymnastics coaching and short periods of time.

I can't have children myself, though, which is fine by me.

[Lurker]

I think they're fantastic. I have a semi-adopted little girl who will be in my care one day -- she really lights up my life. I enjoy teaching her, but most of all, I love it when she shows a desire to learn (which is all the time now) She's five, and reads everything she sees when we are out together. Plus, I'm fairly easygoing with the discipline, yet she seems more well behaved and sensitive than most children.

And holidays! Anyone without kids for the holidays should go borrow one or two to liven things up.

[Zephyrus055]

I like children if they are little NTs. Give them a book or computer and they are occupied for weeks.

[cafe]

I actually really like one of my younger daughter's classmates. I think he is an ENTP about ten or eleven years old. He is really outgoing and you can have an intelligent conversation with him. I enjoy talking to him more than a lot of adults because we have a few interests in common. And the kid does the best Gollem impression I've ever seen.

[wildcat]

I'm good with children, and I believe they're keen on me too since I'm generally happy not to act like a nazi around them.

Also, I think they're interesting since I get the feeling that there's the possiblity I can mold them into mini-versions of myself. :)
I like children also. When I was a very young kid I daydreamed I shall have very many kids.
You cannot play games with adults. I do not know what is wrong with them.
The best thing to be a father was the opportunity to play all kinds of games with all the kids. They liked me because I was not at all strict like the other fathers.
The kids complained their parents had no clue how to play games.
My wife said I do not know how to be a father, I am just a playmate for my kid and all the kids.
My own father was very different, he was a strict authoritarian.

[wildcat]

I agree with Vagabond. And, I love children! They're so cute! ^.^ Not to mention they are much quicker of the mind than people give them credit for.

Punishment is not an issue if you express to them that what they did is not right, in such a manner as to not talk down to them. If the child respects you, they will follow what you say. If parents have to punish their children to get their point across, I think the parents have not performed well.
A very sound point. I agree entirely.

[panda]

Kids can be fun, in small doses. E.g., at family reunions.

Have little to no desire to have any, myself.

[Shimpei]

I have an INTP Dad - such a bliss for both of us!

[attila_the_hunny]

I have an INTP Dad - such a bliss for both of us!

I think a lot of people say they'll never have kids or don't want them...but shit happens.

[Shimpei]

I think a lot of people say they'll never have kids or don't want them...but shit happens.

It's not shit.

[attila_the_hunny]

It's not shit.

Sex happens, then. :devil:

[Zephyrus055]

It's not shit.
I'll remember to give you the next whole litter of rabits.

[Shimpei]

I'll remember to give you the next whole litter of rabits.

very funny

[domokun]

This, I guess, goes for babies up to age 7 or so. (Partially inspired by all you world solution scientists out there wanting to ban children.)
I like kids as long as they can talk and understand spoken language. They are fun because of their natural curiosity and friendliness, for example, one of my friend's nephew's asked: "What is a question?" after overhearing a conversation.

[melancholeric]

It's not shit.
In some cases it definitely is.

[Ivy]

I agree with Vagabond. And, I love children! They're so cute! ^.^ Not to mention they are much quicker of the mind than people give them credit for.

Punishment is not an issue if you express to them that what they did is not right, in such a manner as to not talk down to them. If the child respects you, they will follow what you say. If parents have to punish their children to get their point across, I think the parents have not performed well.
A very sound point. I agree entirely.

I do, too, for the most part. With toddlers (and preschoolers to a lesser extent), they may need some gentle conditioning to learn their boundaries. But school-aged children, I've found, respond MUCH better to genuine feedback and authentic interactions rather than all that fakey-fake "let's make a sticker chart so you will behave the way I want you to behave!" stuff.

[int]

My kid rules.

Your kid(s) is/are annoying, misbehaved, and suck(s).

The little buggers have always bothered me and made me uncomfortable.

'cept mine. She's cool. All the other kids scare me though. I think that's why I never liked childhood.

[Shimpei]

In some cases it definitely is.

It's only the shit-makers (people having sex) to be blamed for the shit.

[wildcat]

I have an INTP Dad - such a bliss for both of us!
The best thing to have is to have an INTP father and an ISFJ mother.

[Jasz]

The best thing to have is to have an INTP father and an ISFJ mother.

why?

[wildcat]

why?
Because the worst thing to have is to have is an ESFJ father and an ENTP mother.

[Jasz]

Because the worst thing to have is to have is an ESFJ father and an ENTP mother.

that does sound like a fun combination, how did it work out for you?

[wildcat]

that does sound like a fun combination, how did it work out for you?
I escaped the funny farm because I had an INTP grandfather and an ISFJ grandmother and I lived with them.