What Enneagram type am I? [split thread]

[Resonance]

I got a higher 9 than 5 on my enneagram self-assessment, which I guess is accurate because I care more about people in general than the average INTP, and when I'm feeling depressed or useless my general solution is to sleep a LOT (and dream a lot) and spend a lot of time in fantasy worlds (of my own or other people's creation.) I'm probably most 'self-actualized' or whatever when working productively on a project that I think will help or bring joy to a lot of people. I have some desire to be a leader but that's mainly because huge projects take huge resources and I'm not going to get access to those unless I take the initiative.

There's more irony in this post than I'd like to admit, but it definitely fits my ideal path.

[Vagabond]

I got a higher 9 than 5 on my enneagram self-assessment, which I guess is accurate because I care more about people in general than the average INTP, and when I'm feeling depressed or useless my general solution is to sleep a LOT (and dream a lot) and spend a lot of time in fantasy worlds (of my own or other people's creation.) I'm probably most 'self-actualized' or whatever when working productively on a project that I think will help or bring joy to a lot of people. I have some desire to be a leader but that's mainly because huge projects take huge resources and I'm not going to get access to those unless I take the initiative.

There's more irony in this post than I'd like to admit, but it definitely fits my ideal path.
Ditto to most of the above, but I am still not a 9. To be honest, I don't think you are one either, but hey.

To the OP: your integration line doesn't mean you become a different type. You incorporate some traits of your integration point (8 if you are a 5), because to be truly integrated, it means you beat your type's fixation, or at least partially. But you're still that type. I am guessing what you are experiencing is the move to your security point (same as integration point, but more temporary), and taking up leadership positions when you feel competent and confident (or, secure) that you can do it. Let me put it this way... if you still find yourself overthinking and overanalysing, you have not integrated, but you are accessing your security point.

[WackyFiasco]

Well, I am a 5 also (score of 25), but 1 was only 4 points lower (21) . As far as a wing goes, I scored 15 on 4 and 16 on 6, so am I a 5w6, or is it too close to call?

Altogether:

Type Score
1 21
2 13
3 14
4 15
5 25
6 16
7 9
8 17
9 13

[durentu]

Well, I am a 5 also (score of 25), but 1 was only 4 points lower (21) . As far as a wing goes, I scored 15 on 4 and 16 on 6, so am I a 5w6, or is it too close to call?

Altogether:

Type Score
1 21
2 13
3 14
4 15
5 25
6 16
7 9
8 17
9 13

I think that qualifies for now. Nothing wrong in changing it after you learn more.

[Resonance]

Ditto to most of the above, but I am still not a 9. To be honest, I don't think you are one either, but hey.
I'd gladly invite any challenges of my self-assessment. I'm interested to know why you think that, because I don't really "get it" at all. I know my motivations and MO change dramatically depending on what my philosophy of the month happens to be, so it's quite possible that any 9ish answers are a result of the most recent theory of solving all the world's problems, but I do think my past behaviours have been more consistent with the 9's description than the 5's.

[Vagabond]

I'd gladly invite any challenges of my self-assessment. I'm interested to know why you think that, because I don't really "get it" at all. I know my motivations and MO change dramatically depending on what my philosophy of the month happens to be, so it's quite possible that any 9ish answers are a result of the most recent theory of solving all the world's problems, but I do think my past behaviours have been more consistent with the 9's description than the 5's.
I am not sure I can substantiate it, so this is not going to be very helpful... you vibe a lot like a Five, and not at all like any Nine I've known. You do seem to have a lot of Nine in you (as do I), but you seem more focused on thinking and analysing than maintaining harmony... more into poking holes in inconsistent arguments than "why can't we all get along". But I don't really know you well, so this is just a first impression, sort of... but with the enneagram, I suggest you look into core fears/core desires more than behaviours, because an INTP 5 and an INTP 9 are going to be alike in some ways anyway.

[Resonance]

I am not sure I can substantiate it, so this is not going to be very helpful... you vibe a lot like a Five, and not at all like any Nine I've known. You do seem to have a lot of Nine in you (as do I), but you seem more focused on thinking and analysing than maintaining harmony... more into poking holes in inconsistent arguments than "why can't we all get along". But I don't really know you well, so this is just a first impression, sort of... but with the enneagram, I suggest you look into core fears/core desires more than behaviours, because an INTP 5 and an INTP 9 are going to be alike in some ways anyway.
ah, hm, well the way I see it, arguing is a means of getting everyone to agree on stuff and understand each other, and since misunderstanding is the #1 source of conflict...

And I am a lot more agreeable IRL. (Less extroverted? Maybe that's what it is.) Judging my online behaviour alone, I might actually come across as ENTP, though I'm not sure.

But, looking at core fears/desires, I would say it's a tough call. My core fear (as I have known for a long time) is being helpless (5), but my core desire is unity/harmony/peace...or at least I think so.

[Vagabond]

ah, hm, well the way I see it, arguing is a means of getting everyone to agree on stuff and understand each other, and since misunderstanding is the #1 source of conflict...
Ok, not to be particularly disagreable, but that's pure Five, not Nine. Nines are more interested to stop the conflict itself, even if it means all parties just stfu and just stop arguing and ignore the problem even - anything, as long as the fuss stops. It's the disturbance of harmony that bugs them. Fives are the ones more concerned with the accuracy of information. A Nine will mediate to stop conflict (or will just shut all conflict out if they can't calm things down), but a Five will debate till the icecaps melt to make sure the info out there is accurate and everyone is clear on the specifics of what they're arguing about. Well all that roughly.

And I am a lot more agreeable IRL. (Less extroverted? Maybe that's what it is.) Judging my online behaviour alone, I might actually come across as ENTP, though I'm not sure.I don't think you are disagreable at all. And extroversion is irrelevant, Fives are among the most introverted ennea types (part of the withdrawn triad with Fours and Nines).

But, looking at core fears/desires, I would say it's a tough call. My core fear (as I have known for a long time) is being helpless (5), but my core desire is unity/harmony/peace...or at least I think so.Imo, core fear is always more telling, but then again core desire is linked to that anyway... for a Five - core fear is to be helpless, useless and incapable, core desire is to be capable and competent (hence not helpless). For a Nine, core fear is loss and separation, core desire is inner stability and peace of mind. I mean I know inner harmony is a big thing for me too, but helplessness is a major one. But I dunno... look at your stress point as well, I'd think. Fives when stressed go to 7 and get more scatterbrained, they will do any random silly thing to avoid doing what they should be doing, because subconsciously they feel they are not capable enough and might fail... Nines go to 6 and try to find a support group of sorts, focus on working like crazy to feel stable and secure and get snappy and passive aggressive and disagreable. I mean, pretty different attitudes. But I dunno.

Might be worth to look into the trifix theory too, if you haven't. It might make things clearer.

[Resonance]

Ok, not to be particularly disagreable, but that's pure Five, not Nine. Nines are more interested to stop the conflict itself, even if it means all parties just stfu and just stop arguing and ignore the problem even - anything, as long as the fuss stops. It's the disturbance of harmony that bugs them. Fives are the ones more concerned with the accuracy of information. A Nine will mediate to stop conflict (or will just shut all conflict out if they can't calm things down), but a Five will debate till the icecaps melt to make sure the info out there is accurate and everyone is clear on the specifics of what they're arguing about. Well all that roughly.hmm, I don't know. When clarity doesn't stop the conflict or people are too emotional to use reason, then I do start telling people to drop it. But not until I'm convinced that further argument won't help...Is that still within the 5 paradigm?

I don't think you are disagreable at all. And extroversion is irrelevant, Fives are among the most introverted ennea types (part of the withdrawn triad with Fours and Nines).
hmm, by agreeable I mean allowing misinformation and irrationality to slide, and agreeing for the sake of harmony rather than out of personal judgement.

Imo, core fear is always more telling, but then again core desire is linked to that anyway... for a Five - core fear is to be helpless, useless and incapable, core desire is to be capable and competent (hence not helpless). For a Nine, core fear is loss and separation, core desire is inner stability and peace of mind. I mean I know inner harmony is a big thing for me too, but helplessness is a major one. But I dunno... look at your stress point as well, I'd think. Fives when stressed go to 7 and get more scatterbrained, they will do any random silly thing to avoid doing what they should be doing, because subconsciously they feel they are not capable enough and might fail... Nines go to 6 and try to find a support group of sorts, focus on working like crazy to feel stable and secure and get snappy and passive aggressive and disagreable. I mean, pretty different attitudes. But I dunno.

Might be worth to look into the trifix theory too, if you haven't. It might make things clearer.
not so different... Going on to a website full of like-minded people discussing personal issues and whiling away the time between incidents like these with silly word games and verbal sparring... I think I've combined the two quite elegantly.
>.< I guess the 5 aspect is more overarching in this case, although it's evident even to me that validation doesn't come from this group just by asking for it.

I'll look up trifix theory when I get to work. Thanks.

[teleforce]

i'm not as familiar with the enneagram types, but it seems that it would be extremely hard to tell someone's type just from judging their behavior. behavior is not always reflective of one's core desires and fears. you can't mind-read someone by primarily relying on the things they say (not to say that blair isn't telling the truth). when it comes to the enneagram, it's not the words themselves but the intentions behind them that matter, it seems to me. observable behavior is of less significance.

i can usually tell MBTI type of my acquaintances easily, but i'd have to be more than acquainted with someone to be able to tell their enneagram type.

i'd trust blair's self-assessment. it does seem like he gets involved in arguments because of the desire to level out conflict. i've noticed this; he wants to understand people and know where they're coming from. i've never seen him dismiss another person's opinion, and he also seems kind of reluctant to argue with posters he has an "affinity" with. to me he comes across as one of the more tolerant people here.

if he says he's a 9, i wouldn't doubt it. however, if he said he was a 5, i wouldn't doubt it either. it seems like one of those things that only the self can determine. furthermore, one can always naturally, due to life circumstances, or consciously decide to change their fears and desires, thus changing their enneagram type as determined by a self-assessment. (this isn't a fact, i'm still thinking about this)

just my thoughts. i hope i'm not ridiculously misinformed about the enneagram or blair.

[Vagabond]

Blair asked for opinions, that's why I gave mine. If blair didn't want any opinions, he could have told me to shove it himself. Clear? Good.

[teleforce]

just to be clear, i wasn't arguing. just spewing my thoughts.

[Resonance]

Yah, I prefer for people to let me know if I'm doing something wrong so I/we can sort it out. Vagabond clearly knows more about this system than I do, so feeding my own observations through a more accurate filter should produce a clearer result. But as you say, I know myself better, so it becomes a dialogue. I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative; I'm just trying to make sure we both have all the information...
Duck I dunno.

[teleforce]

:mellow: i wasn't being argumentative either... i mean i hope my thoughts are allowed. i want to learn about this stuff too, but i don't want to lurk all the time.

[Technical]

i can usually tell MBTI type of my acquaintances easily, but i'd have to be more than acquainted with someone to be able to tell their enneagram type.
Someone was very convinced I was a 9 on a forum, not too long ago, I think just because no one had given me a reason to disregard all social customs and notions of harmony yet. I lol at that, from time to time.

That said, I think if the analyst is good enough, enneagram type can be deciphered with a relatively high rate of success. But I don't at this point have the knowledge to do so readily, nor am I yet inclined to think enneagram types are tied to biology, the way I am with 16-type.

[edge walker]

Scientific Proof for the Enneagram (http://theenneagram.blogspot.com/2007/08/scientific-proof-for-enneagram.html)

That's more substantiation than Jungian systems have, actually.

[melancholeric]

Yah, I prefer for people to let me know if I'm doing something wrong so I/we can sort it out. Vagabond clearly knows more about this system than I do, so feeding my own observations through a more accurate filter should produce a clearer result. But as you say, I know myself better, so it becomes a dialogue. I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative; I'm just trying to make sure we both have all the information...
Duck I dunno.

For the record you seem like a 5w6 and not at all like a 9 to me. But then I don't know jack shit about the enneagram so I might be wrong. But that doesn't happen all that often.

[teleforce]

That said, I think if the analyst is good enough, enneagram type can be deciphered with a relatively high rate of success.

yeah i agree. i just love this personality shit.


For the record you seem like a 5w6 and not at all like a 9 to me. But then I don't know jack shit about the enneagram so I might be wrong. But that doesn't happen all that often.

i wonder how a 9 acts on the internet. we need examples.

[Technical]

Scientific Proof for the Enneagram (http://theenneagram.blogspot.com/2007/08/scientific-proof-for-enneagram.html)

That's more substantiation than Jungian systems have, actually.
I'm not entirely convinced by that. Even if it's dead-ass accurate for everyone (Which strikes me as wishful), it implies that your type could shift around. Does that follow with the predominant schools' positions? I don't know.

[Technical]

i wonder how a 9 acts on the internet. we need examples.
I think Xander is a good example of a self-identifying 9. Not sure if he's posted here in a long time.

[teleforce]

wait, wtf? did i just accidentally delete my post?

edit: oh haha i'm smart.

[Ivy]

Posts above moved from here (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=36346).

[edge walker]

i wonder how a 9 acts on the internet. we need examples.
They put 5w4 in their signature.

[Technical]

Geez, Ivy... Italian precision...*cough cough*

[melancholeric]

I think Xander is a good example of a self-identifying 9. Not sure if he's posted here in a long time.

I was thinking of geoff. Not that he's posted here for a while either.

edit: shaytana?

[Technical]

Could an INTP 9 be anecdotally described as "INFJ-like?" Perhaps, I think.

[Vagabond]

There's a detailed article on Fives and Nines misidentifications here (http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/members/misid/5and9.asp), but it requires registration (free) and it's too long to paste... just putting it out there in case anyone cares anyway.

[HoneyCyclical]

Fives are the ones more concerned with the accuracy of information. A Nine will mediate to stop conflict (or will just shut all conflict out if they can't calm things down), but a Five will debate till the icecaps melt to make sure the info out there is accurate and everyone is clear on the specifics of what they're arguing about. .
Which is why, lately, I think my 5 should be sent to bed without dinner. That or hung up in the closet.


Fives when stressed go to 7 and get more scatterbrained, they will do any random silly thing to avoid doing what they should be doing, because subconsciously they feel they are not capable enough and might fail. .
My 7 should be made to live in the basement and given bread and water only. To earn her bread she should be forced to do my taxes.

[edge walker]

Could an INTP 9 be anecdotally described as "INFJ-like?" Perhaps, I think.
Not even close. INFJs are typically 4s and 2s; INTP 9s are not going to be anything like them.

9 is primarily the domain of IxxPs in general.

[teleforce]

Could an INTP 9 be anecdotally described as "INFJ-like?" Perhaps, I think.

i can see that happening, especially during strictly social interaction.

[Technical]

Um, the icecaps aren't melting. /5

[Etherealsage]

Ok, not to be particularly disagreable, but that's pure Five, not Nine. Nines are more interested to stop the conflict itself, even if it means all parties just stfu and just stop arguing and ignore the problem even - anything, as long as the fuss stops. It's the disturbance of harmony that bugs them.
In my eyes, that creates an underlying tenseness amongst the discordant individuals in question, one that is always visible for me. There's no harmony between the conquered and the conquerer. (Pretty shallow view of the 9, Vaga.)


i wonder how a 9 acts on the internet. we need examples.
I'm an alright example when I'm not pissed off.

[Technical]

Not even close. INFJs are typically 4s and 2s; INTP 9s are not going to be anything like them.

9 is primarily the domain of IxxPs in general.
Excuse me for referring to reality (As in, behavior) on occasion. I happen to think that INTP 9s have some characteristics which are similar to INFJs', and the possible fact that "INFJs tend to be 4s/2s" has no bearing on my analysis.

[Ivy]

I can see that, actually. I've always thought some INFJs tended to be objective and flexible enough to mimic an INTP at times, so it's plausible that an INTP 9 could be conciliatory and organized enough to mimic an INFJ at times too.

[Vagabond]

Um, the icecaps aren't melting. /5
My point exactly.

In my eyes, that creates an underlying tenseness amongst the discordant individuals in question, one that is always visible for me. There's no harmony between the conquered and the conquerer. (Pretty shallow view of the 9, Vaga.)
If you think my view of the 9 in that post is shallower than that of the 5, you are seriously not reading me in the correct tone; but I am not in the mood to write an essay to appease specifically the 9s of the forum. But if you are implying Nines are not conflict-avoidant, either you're wrong, or we should redefine the enneagram.

[edge walker]

But if you are implying Nines are not conflict-avoidant, either you're wrong, or we should redefine the enneagram.
To be fair, I think your description applies to 9w1s more easily than 9w8s. (Of course this was all about INTP 9s, so that was entirely appropriate.)

[Resonance]

From what I can tell, INFJs are the most P-like of the Js.

Thanks for the link, Vagabond, and thanks for the threadsplit, Ivy.

According to the neurochemical basis, I guess the 'low dopamine low norepinephrin high serotonin' (9) is more accurate at present, although that could be attributed more to my upbringing than anything. My dad is INFJ if that means anything.

[Vagabond]

To be fair, I think your description applies to 9w1s more easily than 9w8s. (Of course this was all about INTP 9s, so that was entirely appropriate.)
It was. Though 9w8s are not particularly conflict seeking either.

[edge walker]

Excuse me for referring to reality (As in, behavior) on occasion. I happen to think that INTP 9s have some characteristics which are similar to INFJs', and the possible fact that "INFJs tend to be 4s/2s" has no bearing on my analysis.
Maybe so, but I don't think the similarity is going to be too close. 9w1 INTPs are going to be like INFPs much more than like INFJs -- and this is not merely from theory, it's substantiated by observation of the 9w1s of either MBTI type that I know.

[Resonance]

So. After reading the 9vs5 article, it seems like I've had a 9-like childhood (easygoing, trusting, patient, receptive) and am gradually migrating towards 5ness as I become more self-confident and less naive. I entertain a sort of one-sided cynicism; I think people are stupid but don't blame them for it and believe that people could be competent if only they were more encouraged to do so. I've always been unfocused in everything but academia; being observant and developing real strategy in games, social interaction, etc. is a recent development. Replacing fantasy with theory, replacing accurate simplicity with more precise complexity, replacing optimism with realism...

ugh, I don't know. It's like... 9 on the outside, 5 on the inside. So maybe that just means "fundamentally 5 which has absorbed 9-like attitudes and behaviours for self-preservation".

[Etherealsage]

If you think my view of the 9 in that post is shallower than that of the 5, you are seriously not reading me in the correct tone; but I am not in the mood to write an essay to appease specifically the 9s of the forum. But if you are implying Nines are not conflict-avoidant, either you're wrong, or we should redefine the enneagram.
Conflict-avoidance isn't necessarily ignoring the problem. Yeah, I tend to avoid unncessary conflict, but if it's going to create an ongoing problem, it's in my best interests to take care of it asap. See my logic there? 1 battle to return the harmony or run from 1 battle and face the possibility of seeing many more. It's about perception.

[Resonance]

ok, if I go with a trifix, I would go something like 5-9-4 I guess? or 9-5-4 based on my test results.

I dunno, it seems kind of inconsistent and the more I try to define myself in terms of it the less useful information I get out of it...

[1104]

i thought i was 9w1, but i concluded i was 5w4 after reading descriptions for both types.

i don't care too much for the enneagram because it's more concerned with the consistency within the system itself, and less with its accuracy in the real world. the "rules" are so arbitrary. like you can't be 5w1 because, though it's entirely possible in reality, it would make the enneagram look lopsided and ugly. and that just cannot be.

i notice a lot of intp's test as 9's, but i think it's because many tests account for our behavior rather than the motivation behind it. unlike 9s, intp's aren't diplomatic for diplomacy's sake. our true motive is more intellectual than cooperative. the fact that we think external conflict is a waste of time does not make us nines by default. where nines avoid conflict because it's emotionally unsettling for them, we just think it's inefficient and irritating. the confusion mirrors that between INFP and INTP. being interested in other people doesn't put you "in between".

[Resonance]

ok, got it. 5w6, social variant. Thanks everyone for your help!

For posterity, the so variance accounts for most of the the 9ish behaviour. It's not hard to see how the rest of the noted details can emerge from that fundamentality, given, for example, 1104's post.

Now I'm interested to know whether this has a hormonal significance :P

[melancholeric]

ok, got it. 5w6, social variant. Thanks everyone for your help!

Told you!

iwasrite

[edge walker]

ok, got it. 5w6, social variant. Thanks everyone for your help!
soc/sp or soc/sx?

[Resonance]

soc/sp or soc/sx?

so/sp I am thinking. Being financially independent is a higher priority than getting laid.

[edge walker]

Of the variant stacking descriptions for 5s (http://ocean-moonshine.net/e142857369/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=86:80), which do you relate to most?

[Resonance]

Both so/sx and so/sp match very well. :/



One might think that the energy of this subtype would be warmer and friendlier than that of the self-pres/social, but it doesn’t usually present that way. Because the social instinct is dominant, these Fives are much more aware of their role in the group. They are therefore more careful of their involvements with others.
Check.


The social arena is more important and is invested with more energy, so these Fives will pull up faster and harder into self-pres mode if they should feel at all threatened. This will sometimes give others the impression of coldness.
Check.


This subtype will center a lot of their intellectual interest around the workings of society, humanity or spirituality. This serves as their connection with people. By means of these abstract mental constructs, Fives of this subtype feel a sense of belonging socially, without having to be personally involved and invested.
Check.


The healthier people of this subtype are, the more they are able to integrate their mental constructs with their actual experiences.
Check.


They can really be content to adopt the role of “people watcher,” but they do it from a closer and closer perspective. Their blind spot revolves around the fact that they tend to convince themselves they can get along just fine in the observer role. It does feel safer to them.
Check.


If they do have a few people relatively close to them, they can really strike a good balance between their need to withdraw and their need to connect to the larger social world.
Absolutely.


This subtype could be seen as the most intellectual of type Five. The combination of the basic desire for knowing with the social instinct’s need to "fit in," makes people of this subtype want to find a niche as the expert.
Definitely have evidence of this in my day-to-day interactions.


Their interest in structure, especially social structure, accentuates their natural inclination for acquiring knowledge. With the sexual instinct least developed, this subtype is in the position of having a strong pull towards understanding the workings of the world around them, without the emotional intensity of the sexual instinct setting up any distraction. These Fives fit the role of the scientist or professor quite well in this respect.
This is usually true, as far as I can tell.

However,

Social/Sexual

When reasonably healthy, people of this subtype can be very engaging (for a Five). They smile a lot and are often friendly.
Check.


Their energy is quite different from the social/self-pres subtype because both the social and sexual energies push outwards, and so partly balance out some of the withdrawing tendencies of the Five.
Not sure how to interpret this. "Psychic energy" bleh.


This doesn’t mean that people of this subtype are necessarily any healthier however. The outgoing energy is not the result of true integration to Eight but is the result of the compulsive pull of the instincts. People of this subtype are usually warm and when feeling secure are likely to let people in and even to initiate contact.
It's very rare for me to go so far as to directly initiate contact, but then again it's very rare for me to feel that secure :p


When they feel insecure however, they can actually go to the other extreme and be very shy.
Check.


For this reason, people of this subtype could easily be mistyped; those Fives who withdraw from social contact because of feelings of insecurity, might not seem like social subtypes at all. It might not be obvious that they actually very much desire contact. For people of this subtype, the social instinct actually works as a release value for the sexual component. When relaxed and comfortable with others, the sexual instinct can easily be seen.
This is the only part that really sticks out as possibly incorrect; one girl I was pretty good friends with once asked me, "how come you have no sex drive?" and I was like "wait, what? I totally do, I just... try to hide it I guess"


People of this subtype are very aware of how they “fit in,” and also experience the sexual drive of wanting to connect with intimates.
Definite yes, to the point that it actually tips the question back into balance.


Like other social/sexual subtypes, they have the tendency to cultivate many relationships. They want to be liked by everyone, but being Fives they also tend to hold a part of themselves back for fear of rejection or of being overwhelmed by the demands of the relationship.
Check.


This subtype of Five is more likely to fear rejection than the other subtypes of Five. Because both of the dominant instincts are focused on people, any failure in the realm of interpersonal relationships triggers a fear that there is no safety in the world.
Not sure. I maintain several cliques, so failure in one means I can take refuge in another for a while until the heat is off.


Personality systems like the Enneagram function as tool to help this subtype of Five to feel safe in the world.
Definitely check.


People of this subtype tend to think that the more they understand people, the less chance they have of being rejected. This tends to be a blind spot for people of this subtype as they don’t see that what will actually help them to become healthier is gaining more life experience. This will help them to see that their world will not come to an end with a little rejection.
Sort of a fuzzy realization I came to over time, thanks to my parents. Not sure if that's relevant at all.

[edge walker]

It's expected that you'd agree with parts of both descriptions (much like 5s general relate to both 5w4 and 5w6 to some extent, f.ex.).

Going by your answers I'd say soc/sp is actually quite clear.

(As for "Personality systems like the Enneagram function as tool to help this subtype of Five to feel safe in the world", I would say that applies to all variants of 5s, just in slightly different ways for each... AFAIK the descriptions were (co-?)written by a soc/sx 5, so...)

[Resonance]

Okay. Thanks!

[edge walker]

How much do you adapt your personality to match that of each individual friend, particularly in group settings; do you shift personality gears when you switch focus between participants?

[Resonance]

How much do you adapt your personality to match that of each individual friend? Particularly in group settings; do you shift personality gears when you switch focus between participants?
Hm, depending on the individual...yes... to some extent. Different people need different kinds of stimulation to feel included, so to maintain a balanced group dynamic you need to fill in for any kind they're not getting. But I try not to act too different from one to the next, or else people will notice. Subtle things like body language and predetermined expectations help to obfuscate it.

[edge walker]

Yeah, soc/sp. As a behaviour, mirroring is a sign of soc/sx, but while you show some of the tendency again your motivation reveals soc/sp -- your adaptation serves soc+sp concerns (to make others feel at home in the group and to make the group work well) rather than sx concerns (to connect personally with them within the social context).

[Kazan]

I was type 5. Followed by 3 and 6.

[AmberTrance]

I'm a strong 5, followed by 8 and 6 with 2 as the least.

[dobsrvk]

i feel like the test was written by a NF. i felt the answers to the questions were only similar to my own response, leaving something out or adding something inaccurate.... anyone else get this feeling?

[Resonance]

i feel like the test was written by a NF. i felt the answers to the questions were only similar to my own response, leaving something out or adding something inaccurate.... anyone else get this feeling?

dude what the hell

[shadowjack]

1 with 9 wing.