Birthers (WND) proves: Obama is Kenyan Citizen!

[Jonah Davids]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

This will be mainstream news as talking heads argue about the "controversy," call for impeachment, and tell everyone to "wake up" to how "dishonest" and "socialist" and "communist" Obama is.

Nevermind that it's obvious fraud. It's only obvious to communist socialist Muslim liberal left-wing racist Obama supporters that the Republic of Kenya didn't even fucking EXIST in 1961. No! Facts are evil! La la la, I can't heeeear you, it's a controversy!

FMC.

[trekdude31415]

what was it at the time? it wasn't still british east africa was it?

[Jonah Davids]

Yes, it was British East African Protectorate. According to wiki, anyway, but the source given for that is "Reuter."British East Africa Annexed--"Kenya Colony"" (News). The Times. Thursday, July 8, 1920. Issue 42457, col C, p. 13" which seems genuine to me.

[Deckard]

Interesting how this was never an issue for the foreign-born white guy running in that same election.

[aphemix]

hmm.

disinformation agent? Maybe an obvious inaccuracy to discredit birthers.

::whistles::

[rhuarch]

Haven't bothered to verify any of this myself. This is how the article addresses the issue of when Kenya became an independent country though.


Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama's Kenyan birth certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was quickly determined to be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.

One of the issues Taitz must deal with will be the authentication of the document. Critics immediately jumped on the Feb. 17, 1964, date for the document, explaining that the "republic" of Kenya wasn't assembled until in December of that year.

Media Matters wrote, "Sorry, WorldNetDaily: Kenya wasn't a republic until Dec. 1964."

But Kenya's official independence was in 1963, and any number of labels could have been applied to government documents during that time period.

At Ameriborn Constitution News, the researcher noted that the independence process for the nation actually started taking as early as 1957, when there were the first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council.

"Kenya became an Independent Republic, December 12, 1963, which gives more [credibility] that this is a true document," the website stated.

The 1963 independence is corroborated by several other information sources, including the online African History.

Even the People Daily news agency cited, on Dec. 12, 2005, the "42nd independence anniversary" in Nairobi. "The country gained independence from Britain on Dec. 12, 1963," the report said.

An online copy of the Kenya Constitution, "adopted in 1963, amended in 1999," states: "CHAPTER I - THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA, Article 1, Kenya is a sovereign Republic. Article 1A, The Republic of Kenya shall be a multiparty democratic state…"

It was in November 1964 when the region voluntarily became a one-party state, according to an online source.

The region including Mombasa originally was dealt with as a separate independence movement, but it almost immediately became part of Kenya when the sultan of Zanzibar ceded the "coastal strip" to Kenya, according to sources.

If anything this is the line that has my bullshit meter rising.


Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn't want his name known because "he's afraid for his life."

[starla]

Who cares? People could produce a million foreign birth certificates for Obama. All he needs is one US birth certificate and he's good.

[rhuarch]

Who cares? People could produce a million foreign birth certificates for Obama. All he needs is one US birth certificate and he's good.

At this point I don't think any proof will matter one way or the other. If he produces an American birth certificate now, it will just get tossed into the pot with all the other forgeries we've seen.

[bass_n_treble]

For God's sake, man STFU

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/birthCertObama.jpg

Get that photoshopped piece of shit out of my face and move to another country. Seriously. Hang your Confederate flag somewhere else.

EDIT: I didn't read your entire first post. haha, but I'm going to keep this post up now because it's funny. :blush:

[trekdude31415]

Interesting how this was never an issue for the foreign-born white guy running in that same election.

a few of them did. some of the same people who went after obama were also trying to say that being born in the canal zone to 2 US parrents wouldn't make McCain be natural born eather. if anything we don't hear about the anti-mccain birthers because they wern't the birthers yet.

i supose to be more of a realist though its the people who care weather or not you were born in america that wouldn't vote for obama anyway. the Brither's fit more or less the formula for being right wing extreemests. whats the diference really between them and the 700 club afterall.

[Limey]

What about the Sausage munching Bosch governor of California?
what about him, indeed.

[Melody]

i hope this gets dragged out to hell and back with the birthers led on by tiny intermittent morsels, manufactured or otherwise, here and there, year after year, until Obama's second term ends and they are left with nothing; culminating into silent, subtle, yet deep psychological damage, for the rest of their lives

[bass_n_treble]

i hope this gets dragged out to hell and back with the birthers led on by tiny intermittent morsels, manufactured or otherwise, here and there, year after year, until Obama's second term ends and they are left with nothing; culminating into silent, subtle, yet deep psychological damage, for the rest of their lives

+1

[rhuarch]

The whole argument seems kind of pointless to me. Can't we just say that it doesn't really matter where he was born as long as at least one of his parents was an American citizen at the time of his birth? I'm far from an Obama fan, but this whole Birthers movement just seems ludicrous to me. Also, just because I disagree with many of Obama's policies and the ideology from which they spring, doesn't mean I think he's some kind of evil double agent. I think he's mostly sincere about his rhetoric, just like I think George W. was mostly sincere about his rhetoric. And to be honest, even as a conservative I think the Patriot act has done (and will do) more damage to this country in the long run than Obama's socialist/economic agenda.

[Architectonic]

Does it matter?

It would be nice to set a precedent, so that I could one day become president of the United States. (joking).

[Technical]

Hey, at least they'll have to let Schwarzenegger run now!

[Qfwfq]

How come that piece of paper looks like it hasn't aged a day?

[ocop]

How come that piece of paper looks like it hasn't aged a day?

Because it's a really shitty forgery created specifically to embarrass the "birthers" (http://washingtonindependent.com/54104/punkin-the-birthers-priceless). Think along the lines of what the right did with Dan Rather and the forged Bush Air National Guard documents.

Alternatively, you can create your very own Kenyan birth certificate! (http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/)