View Full Version : Drug Czar sacked for telling truth
Kleptocracy
31 Oct 2009, 01:14 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/sacked-ndash-for-telling-the-truth-about-drugs-1812255.html
If only people could put 2 and 2 together about why this sort of thing happens all over the world. Criminalizing drugs is good for corporations and criminals, bad for everybody else yet every country does it consistently, no matter who gets in power. Elections are rigged all around the world. Anyone who would legalize drugs (look out for normal people rather than the elite) will not get in power, anywhere. That's why Obama is in power, because he's looking out for the elite. This is all so fucking obvious yet only a very small % of people can see through it, everybody else will rally against the people who can, even here where we consider ourselves to be intelligent, I will be insulted for stating the obvious.
I think it's because people tend to go the "easy" way, the way that hurt the least, even if it's obvious or not or the truth.
Digital Future
31 Oct 2009, 03:01 PM
Yes I'm very interested in this recent news as it follows on from other discussions I have been having about presenting people with all the relevant information and allowing them to make their own informed decisions.
It seems there will always be people that are willing to reject scientific truths if it goes against their own core beliefs or values. This is the biggest barrier that prevents individuals from making informed decisions.
The fact he took a stand and ultimately lost his job over it speaks volumes I would say.
bass_n_treble
31 Oct 2009, 03:23 PM
The fact he took a stand and ultimately lost his job over it speaks volumes I would say.
This.
This is what a real man does.
It's not like someone with that kind of certification and connections is going to have to worry about employment.
C.J.Woolf
1 Nov 2009, 05:12 AM
It's a curse of every democracy. Legal drugs are drugs the majority uses; illegal drugs are drugs the majority doesn't use.
The fact he took a stand and ultimately lost his job over it speaks volumes I would say.
The man is a university professor and probably has tenure, so he didn't lose his real job, just his political job. Academic tenure was created precisely so professors can speak their minds without fear of losing their jobs.
V Profane
1 Nov 2009, 05:15 AM
Received a letter from the government; informed me they're suckers (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=996170&postcount=1)
fripping
1 Nov 2009, 05:35 AM
i hope he becomes the copernicus of weed.
MadamI'madaM
1 Nov 2009, 05:36 AM
i hope he becomes the copernicus of weed.
...maybe not since his name is "Nutt"
fripping
1 Nov 2009, 05:38 AM
nutt sacked herp derp
Fingers
1 Nov 2009, 08:34 AM
He was lucky he only got sacked, look what happened to david kelly.
Digital Future
1 Nov 2009, 11:40 AM
It's a curse of every democracy. Legal drugs are drugs the majority uses; illegal drugs are drugs the majority doesn't use.
The man is a university professor and probably has tenure, so he didn't lose his real job, just his political job. Academic tenure was created precisely so professors can speak their minds without fear of losing their jobs.
Its times like this I wish the Liberals were in charge. At least they might be a bit more open minded to new ways of assessing drug classifications. More specifically the approach that Prof David Nutt seems to have used which takes into account the impacts each drug has not only on the individual themselves but also society (crime, cost, people resources, family etc).
It will be a very brave government that admits a significant source of its income (alcohol and tobacco) actually has a greater impact on society that cannabis, LSD and ecstasy.
Even more so when Labour's grass root supporters like to have a beer and a fag after a hard days graft.
Once again scientific truth is blocked by government preventing informed decisions!
He was lucky he only got sacked, look what happened to david kelly.
I came across this news link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199109/13-doctors-demand-inquest-Dr-David-Kellys-death.html) from back in July 09. If you know of a more recent update could you be so kind as to point me towards it my good man? *spoken in a very posh British accent*
The death of Government scientist David Kelly returned to haunt Labour today as a group of doctors announced that they were mounting a legal challenge to overturn the finding of suicide.
Dr Kelly's body was found six years ago this week in woods close to his Oxfordshire home, shortly after he was exposed as the source of a BBC news report questioning the grounds for war in Iraq.
Unusually, no coroner's inquest was held into his death.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199109/13-doctors-demand-inquest-Dr-David-Kellys-death.html#ixzz0VbdpGTSq
Fingers
1 Nov 2009, 07:52 PM
Another one bites the dust (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8336884.stm).
Digital Future
1 Nov 2009, 08:17 PM
Another one bites the dust (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8336884.stm).
Yes I had read that some of his fellow scientists were also thinking of resigning in protest. Good on them I say.
If I was a scientist (never going to happen) I would be the most radical. I would have stormed right up to Gordon Brown himself slapped him in his face and then taken my gold fish bowl!
ragefirsu
13 Nov 2009, 07:47 AM
He was lucky he only got sacked
fripping
13 Nov 2009, 08:17 AM
He was lucky he only got sacked
Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station. Fire at will, commander.
Perseus
13 Nov 2009, 10:44 AM
It's a curse of every democracy. Legal drugs are drugs the majority uses; illegal drugs are drugs the majority doesn't use.
The man is a university professor and probably has tenure, so he didn't lose his real job, just his political job. Academic tenure was created precisely so professors can speak their minds without fear of losing their jobs.
The academic world also attracts ESTP (Bad) and ENTJ (Bad when they regress to ESTJ). If you are having trouble with the ENTJ get the IT department to mess up his computer. He will get paranoid and think he has a virus of mass destruction in his head.
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