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Avengardh
21 Aug 2004, 01:29 AM
So, we all know that we aren't the typical "female", and this has caused us (hopefully most of us...not just me, lol) to have some strange encounters and/or experiences with those who aren't like us.

I recall an instance where I was inside a car with 4 more girls, needless to say I was kinda scared. I recall it all started, when we met in a mall to eat some pizza, and a friend of mine (male) had graciously given me a ride there. When the pizza was eaten I got up after my friend did, he was going to take me home. For some obscure reason the 4 other girls protested and said that they would take me home.
I was kinda scared to say the least, I recall that what awaited me were swarming questions about my love life from every one of them.

I decided to never EVER get in a car with more than 2 girls in my life, so far, so good.

What do you recall?

~*Aven*~

Avengardh
21 Aug 2004, 01:11 PM
I take it I was too vague...perhaps just sharing your experiences with people as a female INTP?? Anyone?? Hehe.

I have had lots of issues with even keeping friends, it's not that I am not there for them, I am just not too keen on seeing them every weekend. Most people find this odd...me being a girl and whatnot.

There was a time when I tried to change who I was to a more "social" being, has anyone else tried this?

Personally, I realized that I could not function without being logical and rational, even though I thought that since I was female, perhaps I could try and be a little bit like every other girl.
Let's face it, no one really notices guys and what they do with their lives (generally), but some reason it's always us INTP-girls that stick out like a sore thumb.
I learned the hard way that I can't be like every other girl...and today, I embrace that, but it took me quite long to realize that.

~*Aven*~

BritainOphira
21 Aug 2004, 09:00 PM
I have had lots of issues with even keeping friends, it's not that I am not there for them, I am just not too keen on seeing them every weekend. Most people find this odd...me being a girl and whatnot.

I really don't see this as "odd." Even most of my extroverted friends behave similarly. Being a girl has nothing to do with how sociable a person is, it is just an unfortunate stereotype.


There was a time when I tried to change who I was to a more "social" being, has anyone else tried this?

I have, and the success really just depends upon what mood I am in. I can usually manage to be extremely social for a day or so (uninterrupted), so long as I have a good reason.


Let's face it, no one really notices guys and what they do with their lives (generally), but some reason it's always us INTP-girls that stick out like a sore thumb.

Hmmm...I just always assumed it was jealousy... :D

Original Anonymous
21 Aug 2004, 10:19 PM
It sounds like they were afraid you would "get" the guy they were interested in and wanted to distract you?

I have had some good friendships with girls, especially when in my home town, in fact my old school friends email me even now, asking if I"ll come to the reunions, but I don't reply, because its half way across the country, and if I do, I don't really want to have to answer to their email and 'instant messages' with women trying to catch up with me on the internet! I feel bad, I should reply, but I know better.

Jkrs
21 Aug 2004, 11:19 PM
I tend to have a difficult time becoming friends with those I meet in person, but once that happens the relationship tends to last. Probably because they're low-maintenance, usually not involving more than talking over lunch a few times a week. It tends to happen with other idea people (not necessarily thinkers, but those who enjoy thinking and debate).

I've not tried to be more social in my everyday life than comes naturally. I know that I can if events demand it, but not for more than eight hours or so, and it takes a great deal out of me.


If INTP females are highly visible, it's because of their rarity. If INTPs are the rarest of types, and the gender distribution follows that of thinkers in the general population, then INTP females are going to be even less common. That means there's precious little in the way of a similar-seeming background to hide in.

Avengardh
23 Aug 2004, 01:23 AM
I have had lots of issues with even keeping friends, it's not that I am not there for them, I am just not too keen on seeing them every weekend. Most people find this odd...me being a girl and whatnot.

I really don't see this as "odd." Even most of my extroverted friends behave similarly. Being a girl has nothing to do with how sociable a person is, it is just an unfortunate stereotype.



I agree, but people are always telling me it is, that's why I added it.

Girls are "supposed" to have lots of friends or want to have them etc etc.

Which of course, doesn't affect me, but back in Middle School, I couldn't understand why people made such a big deal out of things, I got along better with my teachers than my peers.

~*Aven*~

ohnoaninfp
23 Aug 2004, 03:40 AM
I get along better with guys I think. At least one guy I hang out with is pretty cool and he dosan't talk about his love life, and what he did with his gf, or what fantasy he wants to have with his partner. I had a friend once who was a girl. She was freakin boy crazy! She had to have a guy, or there would be nothing to live for. Seroiusly if I lived by her standards I would have slitted my wrists years ago. She needed a man to depend on so bad. When she was going out with my friend James she would always talk nonstop about how cute he was, how he was her precious, how he kissed her, blah blah blah. All she would ever talk about was the guy she was seeing. It drove me nuts! Not don't get me wrong, I like guys but I have other things in my life to live for, such as art, AIRPLANES! :), music etc. She would always rub her relationship with James in my face , since I didn't have a boyfriend.

Avengardh
23 Aug 2004, 03:53 AM
I get along better with guys I think. At least one guy I hang out with is pretty cool and he dosan't talk about his love life, and what he did with his gf, or what fantasy he wants to have with his partner. I had a friend once who was a girl. She was freakin boy crazy! She had to have a guy, or there would be nothing to live for. Seroiusly if I lived by her standards I would have slitted my wrists years ago. She needed a man to depend on so bad. When she was going out with my friend James she would always talk nonstop about how cute he was, how he was her precious, how he kissed her, blah blah blah. All she would ever talk about was the guy she was seeing. It drove me nuts! Not don't get me wrong, I like guys but I have other things in my life to live for, such as art, AIRPLANES! :), music etc. She would always rub her relationship with James in my face , since I didn't have a boyfriend.

I know what you mean...one of my best friends is like that, although I don't think she means to rub her relationship on me.
She won't stop talking about him though, and she has only dated him 4 times..."Elijah this, I miss Elijah, Eli is sooo hot"..gods...it makes me want to tell her to shut up about it...

I don't understand why some women think they need a man in their life to be complete...it's just not clear to me...

~*Aven*~

ohnoaninfp
23 Aug 2004, 04:10 AM
I know that I will say that I miss a guy I like, but I wont go on for hours about every little detail of his oh so cute face. I mean there are other things to talk about. What I can't really stand is the way the word love is thrown around so easily. That girl Iwas writing about was "in love" with a guy named timmy. She would talk for hours about him, then the day after he breaksup with her she is going out with James. Yeah she loved him. Riiigth.

Jezebel
23 Aug 2004, 09:48 AM
This weekend I sat next to a girl I had never met before on an airplane. She was the epitome of stereotypical girliness. She offered to let me borrow her Glamour magazine in case I got bored, since she had already read most of it. I thanked her but said that I was too sleepy to read. So, she began talking to me instead. By the time we reached our destination, I knew she was the same age as me, where she grew up, about her ex-boyfriend, about the guy she had a crush on who she would be seeing soon, about the difficulties pursuing this relationship, about her kid, about the circumstances surrounding how she got pregnant, about her partying days, her school, her job, and even her financial situation. She would ask questions about me, my family, and my boyfriend, but my answers were always brief. At some point during all of this, due to my lack of responsiveness I suppose, she got bored and began going through the guides in Glamour and doing her make-up for fun.

She seemed nice and all, but my god, it felt like we were experiencing completely different realities. I try to be nice but these situations always make me feel awkward and I'm not sure how to respond.

Star Cannon
24 Aug 2004, 04:25 AM
I remember one particular female from my life-skills class... would NOT shut-up about her boyfriend. An a-typical airhead. I put up with her, consdering that I had to sit next to her.

Some of my friends seem to depend of having a guy in their lives. I just shake my head. I've been through kindergarten to ninth grade without EVER going on a date and I ain't complainin'. I'm starting the tenth grade on wednesday and if any guy that I deem a Grade-A irrational idiot asks me out... I'll reject him. :D

:nerd: Too much testosterone in the guys; and too much mushy-mushy in general. Thank god I'm an INTP. :cheers:

ohnoaninfp
24 Aug 2004, 04:57 AM
I can't stand the superficial and ditzy people, who think it is so cool to get shitfaced and party all the time. When I was a senior in highschool I sat with my three friends at luch. There would be this group of girls who would sit at the same table as us. They would talk about sexual stuff and go into detail about the female anatomy and the oh so dread ful periond. It was disgusting. Here I was trying to eat lunch and I had to hear some airhead talking about stuff I really don't need or want to hear. Then this one time, one of the girls read a little note that her mom had written for he, telling her that she cared about her or something like that. She said oh my god my mom is so gay. I am sorry that really pissed me off. Her mom was showing that she cared for her. At least she had her mom with her, an her mother showed her that she cared. I lost my mother due to cancer about 3 years ago. My mom never felt good and she would be angry a lot. My mom didn't write me notes or pack my lunch for me. I didn't expect her too. I just remeber getting yelled at a lot, but she was sick mind you. I hate it when people would be like, Oh my mom is such a bitch and blah blah blah. Seriously I would not say that about my mom. I know I can act spoiled sometimes but I am grateful for what my parents gave me. I don't know why I am like this. I guess that I am just bitter about everything. :(

BritainOphira
24 Aug 2004, 11:08 PM
Some of my friends seem to depend of having a guy in their lives. I just shake my head. I've been through kindergarten to ninth grade without EVER going on a date and I ain't complainin'. I'm starting the tenth grade on wednesday and if any guy that I deem a Grade-A irrational idiot asks me out... I'll reject him. :D

I'm a junior, and I've never been on an actual date. I was asked out repeatedly by a guy who resembled a goat, but I didn't realize it at the time (or didn't want to realize it...urrr...). It's really not too bad, until your friends figure it out and keep dropping such lovely hints as "Oh, you two look so cute together. You would make the greatest couple ever," when you are around any and all male friends.

Avengardh
25 Aug 2004, 06:40 AM
Wow, I can relate so much to most of the replies in here.

The "airheads" were interesting to hang out with, I did for a while because for some reason they thought I was cool. I found them amusing and funny, but when they started talking about guys...they got really boring.

I also got asked out on dates and such (I remember Prom...thank god I went with one of my best friends) but I still don't really understand the concept of dating.
I don't really want to go out with someone who I don't even know and take the risk of him attempting to kiss me or something along those lines...guys are irrational...some of them really can't control their impulses.

Why would I trust someone that I don't even know?
Makes no sense to me.

~*Aven*~

gypseymothlee
20 Oct 2004, 10:12 AM
All of this sounds very familiar. All of my female co-workers have this wierd ritual where they go outside on their smoke-breaks and gossip about anyone who doesn't happen to be there at the time. And they keep trying to suggest that this guy I work with would be "perfect for me".
I've taken to reading by myself during the breaks to avoid having to listen to all of it.

ohnoaninfp
20 Oct 2004, 07:00 PM
People are stupid. lol.

Star Cannon
31 Oct 2004, 02:09 AM
Yeah and this year I feel like a square in a world of circles. Everyone around me has dates, and play dates and things to do and people to snog, and "places" to go. Here I am, representing less then .000000001 of the highschool population scowling in the distance. I can stay on a topic for about fifteen minutes and my friends have a capacity for about 50 seconds or a very brief allusion. So much for exploring possibilities. You won't believe this: but the first lunch has the shortest lunch lines. The students are just too busy socialising to eat lunch... that is just... no.

Being an INTP is lonely...

Star Cannon

Star Cannon

Nindy
31 Oct 2004, 03:08 PM
Wow, this is all really familiar..

I have some boy-crazy classmates, or wait, a lot, who are constantly talking about boys they are 'in love with', mostly boys in the 11th or 12th grade which they don't even know for real, sometimes they just crack me up because they're so damn stupid but mostly they just bore the hell out of me. :zzz:

And when I talk to a male they'll ask if I like him and start saying stuff like how we would make such a nice couple :blink:

Not to mention that they make a lot of remarks about that I should put my hair in a ponytail some more 'cause it's always loose, but I just feel no desire whatsoever to do so, and they really shouldn't complain; sometimes I do so on a 'special occasion' which would be once or twice a year... :D

It's really annoying how they always try to force me to go to parties and such, they just can't accept who I am and constantly try to change me to be more like them :rant:

From all females in my class there's really just one I get along with, but she gets along with everyone and can be just as annoying as the others so on the main I remain the loner :ph34r:

Tatsuboshi
31 Oct 2004, 04:28 PM
Let's face it, no one really notices guys and what they do with their lives (generally) ...


:cry:

candela
1 Nov 2004, 01:57 AM
So, we all know that we aren't the typical "female", INTP males aren't typical males either?

After reading some of this, I'm glad I'm not a girl.