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Avengardh
23 Aug 2004, 01:30 AM
One of my close INTP female friends told me that I was so much more "girly" than her because I wore earrings.

And I wonder, what qualifies as "girly"? Perfume? Body mist? Skirts? Dresses?

What are the things you would consider girly in yourself?

As for me...I have lipgloss that I always wear when I am outside because my lips get chipped (Colorado weather), I stopped wearing chapstick because it made my lips hurt. How about you?

~*Aven*~

CosmicDust
23 Aug 2004, 01:52 AM
I almost always wear a necklace. I used to wear rings and sometimes bracelets, but fine bracelets would catch my arm hair and rings would get all wet underneath from sweating and washing my hands. A watch can have the same problem as a ring, so I will sometimes take my watch off to air out.

Generally speaking, I'm not especially feminine but not masculine either. I'm a wuss (non-aggressive, self-blaming, backs down easily in arguments), but even that's probably better described as a lack of a stereotypically masculine trait than as a feminine trait.

ohnoaninfp
23 Aug 2004, 03:32 AM
I wear the same necklace all the time. I never take it off, except when I go swimming. I normally don't wear any other jewelry except for earings. I love earings exspecially the long dangly ones. Airplanes are not considered feminine, but I don't care I love airplanes. They are sweet. I prefer blue to pink. Pink is suppose to be girly. I hate pink. I despise it with all my being. I mostly wear black. I am not a Goth or any thing, I just prefer to wear black. There are some girly things that I do like. I like formal dresses, but always get depressed when trying them on. I love flowers, and not those nasty fake flowers. I love real flowers, the way they look smell and feel. They are so beautiful and interesting. I normally wear black tee-shirts and jeans, but it is nice to dress up formal when you have a reason to, but unfortunately that is a rare occasion. Nail polish is definetly girly. I normally don't wear nail polish even though I have many different colors, because I don't have time to wait for my nails to dry. Now I wear this clear nail strenghting nail polish. I am not normally into "girly" things. My room has posters of the civil war, airplanes, and there is a cloth that I hung up that has the family crests of Ireland on it. I even have airplanes hanging from my ceiling.

Birnam
23 Aug 2004, 06:55 PM
girly? There are a few things... not my clothes- I have one (wait, no, two) dresses, but only wear one (the other is a black velvet thing that I wear for - nothing so far, perhaps a funeral..). I get my clothes from the men's section because of comfort and the colors- ugh! I hate pink! I never wear jewelry, it's a nuisance, always getting lost and so on.) I like chatting with some people- and having a friend that is a girl can be nice... um- I'm really tying to think of an example of my girlyness here. I like drawing, but it seems to be more on the lines of representative art rather than Fish art. (I enjoy looking at that type of thing, but I can't quite produce it).

No conclusion.

shaytana
23 Aug 2004, 08:19 PM
Alright, what girlie stuff do I do... hmmmm. I wear makeup sometimes. Only eye stuff though, I like to make my eyes stand out even more, freaks people out. I can't stand foundation and blush, how can girls walk around all day with their faces caked, how uncomfortable.

I don't own a dress or a skirt and the last time I wore either was grade 8 graduation (I didnt go to highschool prom or college graduation) and I am guessing the next time I will wear one will be my elopement (no wedding here thanks)

I don't wear jewelery at all, I can't stand the feeling of something clinging to me or just getting in the way. I can't even wear a watch - I just can't get to that point where you forget that you are wearing it and no longer feel that it is on, I ALWAYS feel it on me (no matter if it is a watch, rings, necklace, earrings, whatever)

Oh, I shave my legs sometimes (read: when I might be getting laid) does that count?

Birdsnest
24 Aug 2004, 12:16 AM
:nerd:

BritainOphira
24 Aug 2004, 12:55 AM
I usually wear assorted jewelry (some rings, a watch, earrings, a necklace, bracelets, etc.), but usually it consists of crap bought off the fifty-cent rack at yard-sales (love old-lady-ish junk) or things I find randomly around the house or at school (read: strings from hoodies, or other random things are awsome as bracelets and necklaces). I usually try to make sure my clothes match decently well, unless I don't feel good, like this morning when I walked out of my house without two things that actually matched each other. I wear skirts occasionally, but never dresses unless I am going someplace special like a formal dance. Umm...that about sums it up. Oh yeah, makeup-love my concealer and mascara, but I also wear a light foundation and powder, and some sort of lip stuff (anything from chap stick to actual expensive lip stick), though finding makeup that is the correct colour is usually a problem as I am rather pale.

Anacaona
24 Aug 2004, 02:08 AM
I like to wear jewelery... I almost always wear earrings and sometimes a necklace... As for makeup, i wear lip gloss and mascara almost everyday... Sometimes a concealer and powder. I HATE to wear dresses and skirts (except if the skirt is long)... I hate to dress "sexy" (tight-fitting clothes and short skirts and plunging necklace). I do like to dress-up for special occasions, but on a daily basis, I like to be dressed "casual"...

Star Cannon
24 Aug 2004, 04:38 AM
Oy-vey. I don't wear jewelry, period. No watches, no necklaces, no nadda.
I dislike dresses. The reason is they are inefficient and very uncomfortable. I prefer uni-sex clothing styles -- tee-shirt and shorts. Comfortable things. I don't like the 'softer' shades of colors when it comes to clothing. I feel out of context with light shades of pink and lavender. Preferably, I would wear mens clothing with my own flair to it.

I don't wear make up either. It's.... just... eww.

I don't really act feminine either. I've rejected about every potential "boyfriend" that had the audacity to ask me out. Feminine-ness?I write poetry, does that count as creativeness? I take Art classes and come out with near perfect grades. Does that count as feminine? I had a period... about a year ago. I have boobs. Does that count as feminine? I don't think it would. I walk briskly with my head up and perpetual frown. Like a supreme court judge. That is DEFINITEly not feminine.

Therefore I question the validness of feminine and masculine because I appear to be an exception to the "norm". We all appear to be exceptions to the "norm".

ohnoaninfp
24 Aug 2004, 05:10 AM
wow I thought I was the only one! Everyone tells me that I should dress nicer. What for? Panty hose are as obnoxious as hell (note I like fishnet ones that are classy not slutty.), the high heel shoes are so impractical because they hurt your feet and you cant really do anything fun in them, and I feel so ugly when I am dressed up. I don't know why, self esteem issue. As for makeup, I normally wear eyestuff and lipstuff. I can't wear foundation or any of that crap because my face is so damn sensitive. I don't like to wear it any wasy because my face would feel sweaty, heavy and greasy. I like to be comfortable. I do wear a nice top once in a while. I have two black tops that can have sleeves or be sleevless. The sleeves are tied on and they kinda plume outward. I love those tops! I would wear them with black jeans and feel oh so sexy. I would also wear a black leather jacket and sunglasses with it. PINK IS EVIL!!!!!!!!!!! I can't stand pink, event though I have a pink top, but it is so damn sheer. Thats another reason why I hate wearing "happy" colors.

CeSoirNoir
24 Aug 2004, 07:17 PM
I think I go through phases of being girly. Sometimes I hate dressing like other girls do, and sometimes I like it. Buying clothes frustrates the hell out of me, and I hate spending money on it. But lately I've been purchasing a lot of girly clothes because I'm in that phase again right now. For a long time in the past all I wore were jeans and guy t-shirts. I try shopping at thrift stores as much as I can...

I like wearing eye make up, but not everyday.
I've never had a lot of jewelry, but I have some that I enjoy.
As for lotions, etc...I buy things that are as natural, organic and animal free as possible.

Yikes, I may be one of the more girlier females on this forum !

Avengardh
24 Aug 2004, 07:54 PM
I think I go through phases of being girly. Sometimes I hate dressing like other girls do, and sometimes I like it. Buying clothes frustrates the hell out of me, and I hate spending money on it. But lately I've been purchasing a lot of girly clothes because I'm in that phase again right now. For a long time in the past all I wore were jeans and guy t-shirts. I try shopping at thrift stores as much as I can...

I like wearing eye make up, but not everyday.
I've never had a lot of jewelry, but I have some that I enjoy.
As for lotions, etc...I buy things that are as natural, organic and animal free as possible.

Yikes, I may be one of the more girlier females on this forum !

Lol, I think I relate to a lot of the things you mentioned, except for the eye shadow.
I loathe shopping because everything is always so expensive, or it just seems to me like they just go out of their way to make clothing in the $60+ range...guys' clothes are less expensive.

I only like silver and make my own beaded bracelets because they are comfortable and cheaper. I only like long skirts and despise dresses, I like to dress casually most of the time, and most of what I have is black.

For some reason, I love polos and buttoned shirts, as well as turtle necks. I mostly end up making my own necklaces too, I can't live without my digital watch because I wouldn't know what day it was...

~*Aven*~

Jkrs
24 Aug 2004, 08:44 PM
It seems there's a consensus about what constitutes 'girliness' after all.

Lessee.. I don't wear makeup (can't stand having stuff on my face), or jewlery except for a very sturdy & utilitarian watch (anything else tends to get broken), and don't wear dresses or skirts.
Nice clothing isn't a problem if there's some kind of mandatory formal-ish function (don't want to stand out, after all), but it isn't practical enough for everyday use. My clothes tend to end up with paint, food, dirt, bleach (which I haven't been able to find the source of), and occasionally solder on them, among other things.
I've resisted having my hair trimmed for the last decade or so, so it's a quite long mass of split ends.

I did have the ability to wear earrings once, but let the holes close for the same reason I don't wear other jewlery. Discovered in the process that I'm allergic to silver, and just about anything else that isn't either gold, plastic, or surgical steel.

I'm entirely with Aven and CSN on the matter of shopping. It's quite difficult to find clothing that doesn't have obnoxious designs on it. Not to mention actually fitting comfortably.

ohnoaninfp
25 Aug 2004, 02:59 AM
They always make womens stuff form fitting and tight, not realizing we are not all a size six! I get my clothes mainly at Wal*mart. I did go to the mall once with my birthday money and bought some clothes that I thought would be nice. Shopping for clothes always depresses me because I feel ugly for some strange reason when I try on some nice clothes. I like guys stuff because they have cars and airplanes on their clothes. Is it just me, or is girls sizes messed up? For instance Guy's pants are based on the measurement of a guys waist , such as 31/30 40/30, while girls sizes are 0-16. I mean shopping for clothes would be so much easier if they sized girls clothes based on how they size guys clothes. I mean seriously size 0? You have got to be joking. Oh well.

MacGuffin
25 Aug 2004, 09:19 PM
I mean seriously size 0? You have got to be joking. Oh well.

[poking head in] My wife wears size 0 sometimes. [/poking head in]

Avengardh
9 Sep 2004, 06:37 AM
I mean seriously size 0? You have got to be joking. Oh well.

[poking head in] My wife wears size 0 sometimes. [/poking head in]

Hmm, I think that women are created differently. Personally, I don't understand guys' fascination with boobs :blink:

Clothes are generalized because of the media and "fashion", as INTPs we are forced to adapt.

~*Aven*~

EternalCynic
9 Sep 2004, 02:56 PM
I'm with Star Cannon, nothing girly for me.
The girliest thing about me is my chest and that doesnt count because if I could do something about it (aside from reduction surgery) I would opt -against- them. I never wear dresses or skirts, or wear any jewlery, I find them all constricting, I agree that dresses are impractical. I wear jeans and t-shirts, I wear what's comfortable, not what makes me look pretty. I do wear a little makeup on occasion, or used to, rather, but I hardly wear any anymore, aside from chapstick (that is often mistaken for lip-gloss?).

*shrugs* It's just what makes me more comfortable, I'm female but I am by no means "girly". It's interesting to see what everyones different styles and preferences are :D.

ohnoaninfp
9 Sep 2004, 06:57 PM
I mean seriously size 0? You have got to be joking. Oh well.

[poking head in] My wife wears size 0 sometimes. [/poking head in]

Hmm, I think that women are created differently. Personally, I don't understand guys' fascination with boobs :blink:

Clothes are generalized because of the media and "fashion", as INTPs we are forced to adapt.

~*Aven*~

Yeah. We all may be created differently, but the fashion designers don't see it that way. I walk in to one of these trendy stores and they only go up to a size 13 and all of the clothes are made a little snug to show off our curves. There is one place called the Deb where they have some nice clothes that are made to fit girls who wear larger sizes. The clothes are nice and they are made to fit. I got a couple red shirts and the black shirts that I absolutely love from their. I like my clothes to be loose not tight and shortcut.

synchronous
19 Sep 2004, 10:46 PM
What are the things you would consider girly in yourself?

The fact that I have large breasts, long dark hair, nice eyes and a nice smile (these are comments I frequently hear from others) tend to put me in the 'girly' category, whether I want to be there or not. I want to be taken seriously and talk about complex issues, but, I do tend to get dismissed because I 'look' girly. It's not like I can take these features away, like I can remove my earrings or necklace.

Typically, I wear holy shirts, jeans and socks - stuff that I've owned for years. My shoes are so roughed up and I can't bare to go out shopping for new ones. I wear a black opal necklace I never remove. I wear rings on occasion. I have my hair cut maybe once a year.

As for makeup, I wear it rarely. What's in my make-up bag? Years old mascara, rouge and concealant - probably not good to wear anymore. that's it. I was asked twice by my friend to be his sales rep for his dad's cosmetics company. An INTP selling make-up! YIKES! I tried to explain to him several times it would not work out. :rofl:

CeSoirNoir
20 Sep 2004, 01:25 AM
What are the things you would consider girly in yourself?

The fact that I have large breasts, long dark hair, nice eyes and a nice smile (these are comments I frequently hear from others) tend to put me in the 'girly' category, whether I want to be there or not. I want to be taken seriously and talk about complex issues, but, I do tend to get dismissed because I 'look' girly. It's not like I can take these features away, like I can remove my earrings or necklace.


I would have to agree with you in the first sentence. I have the same features, and I can't help but look girly at times. I am OFTEN NOT taken seriously.

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 03:19 AM
I would have to agree with you in the first sentence. I have the same features, and I can't help but look girly at times. I am OFTEN NOT taken seriously.

Yes, and if you assert yourself, your behaviour is interpreted and labeled as 'emotional' and irrational.

I've read somewhere in my travels that a certain adult facial feature - like big round, soft eyes, can evoke a certain emotional response. In this case, it would be one of wanting to take care of - like you would want to take care of a baby. When I interact with people face to face, I get these vibes. This is going to sound a little weird, but, I've actually videotaped myself saying something, just to get a pespective on what people see when they interact with me. I was surprised at what I saw. Although I may perceive myself as the INTP that I am (particularly on the days I feel mischevious and playful), my looks combined with the way I project really makes me appear 'girly-ish'. From this little experiment, I've learned to tone it down a little. I try to be careful to project myself nonverbally in a more powerful way, to obtain the appropriate response. Mind you, I find the older I get, the more my looks get taken out of the equation, the more I'm taken seriously. Sad, but, true....

file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 03:25 AM
I am of the impression that most women who are 'past their prime' are no longer considered valuable by society. They have lost their reproduction abilities and much of their sexual appeal.. and are for the most part treated like shit. Or maybe I'm wrong but the difference between the way an old man is treated and the way an old woman is treated is probably going to be significantly different especially by the younger generation.

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 04:33 AM
I am of the impression that most women who are 'past their prime' are no longer considered valuable by society. They have lost their reproduction abilities and much of their sexual appeal.. and are for the most part treated like shit. Or maybe I'm wrong but the difference between the way an old man is treated and the way an old woman is treated is probably going to be significantly different especially by the younger generation.

Yikes, you make me sound like we are a piece of meat, passed my 'best before' date... lol. Actually, that's a bit of an illusion. You initially feel like you are 'past your prime', and that society will disregard you because you've lost your reproductive abilities, and looks. But, what you've lost in that arena you win in terms of wisdom gained through experience. So, not only do you have your INTP qualities, you have life experience to back you up and that holds weight. But, the issue i'm talking about here is the way one looks and how it tends to evoke a particular response. The older I get, the more my looks tend not to evoke that response. It has the effect of taking off a veil. My 'message' gets heard, let's just say.

By the way, the concept of sex appeal is relative. It changes as you change and mature. When I was younger, I could not imagine being attracted to a middle aged man. Now, I find them quite sexy. There is a whole lot of sex appeal to be found as you get older, whether you are male or female. My SO who is 14 years older than I am, has great sex appeal. It's an intangible, and not dependent on looks or his ability to provide financially, as many might understand sex appeal to be. Whether the younger generation finds me attractive is not very relevant to me.

CosmicDust
20 Sep 2004, 04:55 AM
I heard women's libido maximizes in early middle age, around 35 years old or something. Even so, I still tend to think of myself as "past my prime" at 24, given that people swoon over 17-18 year olds in the popular media, breast cancer reduction is best when you have a child/produce milk early (I doubt I'll ever have a kid, and if I do it will probably be too late to prevent breast cancer), and fertility peaks at around 22 years old. Besides that, with the way time has passed - about a quarter century now since my conception - I'll probably still be wondering where the heck the time went on my dying day.

spirilis
20 Sep 2004, 05:04 AM
I've heard the ~35 year old thing mentioned before. Specifically starting around 30, or maybe rising towards 30. For men it's the early 20's I think (?). Anyway, one couple I knew had that as their argument... the guy was 22, the lady was 30. They used that excuse whenever someone would bring up the major age difference.

file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 05:32 AM
Yikes, you make me sound like we are a piece of meat, passed my 'best before' date... lol. Actually, that's a bit of an illusion. You initially feel like you are 'past your prime', and that society will disregard you because you've lost your reproductive abilities, and looks. But, what you've lost in that arena you win in terms of wisdom gained through experience. So, not only do you have your INTP qualities, you have life experience to back you up and that holds weight. But, the issue i'm talking about here is the way one looks and how it tends to evoke a particular response. The older I get, the more my looks tend not to evoke that response. It has the effect of taking off a veil. My 'message' gets heard, let's just say.

By the way, the concept of sex appeal is relative. It changes as you change and mature. When I was younger, I could not imagine being attracted to a middle aged man. Now, I find them quite sexy. There is a whole lot of sex appeal to be found as you get older, whether you are male or female. My SO who is 14 years older than I am, has great sex appeal. It's an intangible, and not dependent on looks or his ability to provide financially, as many might understand sex appeal to be. Whether the younger generation finds me attractive is not very relevant to me.
I meant it more to be society's opinion on the matter... I guess I phrased it poorly(very poorly). I was not comparing people of a similar age group though as in the example you provided. I have heard people become completely different over a period of 7 years... just more that the world changes and peoples live change so much in 7 years that of course you're going to be logically be attracted to people your age.

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 12:03 PM
I meant it more to be society's opinion on the matter...

You can view my thoughts as representative of the women of my age group from the same society you are talking about. lol. I think the younger generation might see the concept of 'passed the prime' as a big negative. But from the middle age'd persons perspective, it isn't really. I suppose as well, it all depends on how much you want to buy into the illusion. I've noticed a significant shift in attitude when I discuss issues with men. Not clear on what exactly you're after, but, that's about all I can contribute on it.

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 12:05 PM
Below is an extract from an INTP website that explains gender differences between male and female INTPs:

Gender issues are especially prominent for the INTP female. While all of this internal conceptualizing may be tolerated in a male — no matter how misunderstood or ignored by others it might be — society is less likely to tolerate the same characteristic in a female. The absentminded professor stereotype is, unfortunately, an image more conventionally male than female. [My note: I am, happily, a male ... and thus, do not have to deal with this particular dilemma.] For example, ask a male INTP what time it is, and when he expounds on the philosophical nuances and even the ultimate meaning of time itself, you might think it’s a sign of trying to sound overly intelligent. If a female INTP answers the same way, on the other hand, she might be shunned into an embarrassing silence.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3025/intp4.htm I'm pretty sure this fellow has pulled this info from a MBTI source because I read it before on another site. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to properly reference it. But, I think at least some of the INTP women on this site can relate to this.

HairlessBluetick
20 Sep 2004, 12:19 PM
That quote is from, I think, Type Talk by, Otto Kroeger (I think?)

file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 12:33 PM
I meant it more to be society's opinion on the matter...

You can view my thoughts as representative of the women of my age group from the same society you are talking about. lol. I think the younger generation might see the concept of 'passed the prime' as a big negative. But from the middle age'd persons perspective, it isn't really. I suppose as well, it all depends on how much you want to buy into the illusion. I've noticed a significant shift in attitude when I discuss issues with men. Not clear on what exactly you're after, but, that's about all I can contribute on it.

mmm.. when I said societies opinion on the matter, I meant more shit the shown on TV and how we are "taught" to treat various age groups. I don't think being older is a bad thing... I just see it more like climbing up a mountain.. then jumping when you get to the top... life's inevitable cycle. as we get higher up on the mountain, the wiser an individual becomes due to past experiences.. I am kind of tired.. what was it we were debating anyway?

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 12:37 PM
I heard women's libido maximizes in early middle age, around 35 years old or something. Even so, I still tend to think of myself as "past my prime" at 24, given that people swoon over 17-18 year olds in the popular media, breast cancer reduction is best when you have a child/produce milk early (I doubt I'll ever have a kid, and if I do it will probably be too late to prevent breast cancer), and fertility peaks at around 22 years old. Besides that, with the way time has passed - about a quarter century now since my conception - I'll probably still be wondering where the heck the time went on my dying day.

Hmm, yes, things get interesting around 30. The fertility issues become less of a preoccupation at 40, so, you feel more free to just enjoy sex for what it is. I relate to your thoughts on having children. I didn't think I'd ever want 1) to get married, and 2) have children. I've done both several times. lol. I wouldn't discount either life experience, but, I've found you do as an INTP have to make some adjustments with respect to space and time alone for reflection, and understand that although you may experience deep feelings for your loved ones, you may not connect to them readily or spontaneously like others might.

synchronous
20 Sep 2004, 12:39 PM
I am kind of tired.. what was it we were debating anyway?

I'm not sure either, but, my brain is a bit scattered at the moment. I gotta put on my SJ mask and head to work.... :D

s
21 Sep 2004, 12:43 AM
I think I go through phases of being girly. Sometimes I hate dressing like other girls do, and sometimes I like it. Buying clothes frustrates the hell out of me, and I hate spending money on it. But lately I've been purchasing a lot of girly clothes because I'm in that phase again right now. For a long time in the past all I wore were jeans and guy t-shirts. I try shopping at thrift stores as much as I can...

I like wearing eye make up, but not everyday.
I've never had a lot of jewelry, but I have some that I enjoy.
As for lotions, etc...I buy things that are as natural, organic and animal free as possible.

Yikes, I may be one of the more girlier females on this forum !

Sounds A LOT like me except for the guy shirts. I do not act like a girly girl, but sometimes l look like one. I like high quality clothes, but find shopping tiring. I hate thinking about what to wear, but like looking nice... thus a lot of basic conservative black, occasionally bold earrings, granny broaches, and inherited jewels. Dressing up can be a costume that I can hide behind. My look goes from Jane Goodall to Jackie O from day to day.

s
21 Sep 2004, 12:48 AM
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Jezebel
26 Sep 2004, 08:18 AM
I wear girly clothes. Girly as in I don't like guy's t-shirts/clothing, not as in pink baby-tees with "princess" printed on the front in glittery letters. I wear dresses and skirts now that I'm out of grade school, but I don't have many. What I hate most about wearing dresses is how when I wear them I feel like I get stared at and people I know will say things like "you're all dressed up today!".

I like some jewelry but I don't own much. I don't care about fine jewelry and diamonds though. There are so many cooler things I can think of to spend my money on. I like necklaces and a few other things sometimes. I still don't have a single piercing, so no earrings for me.

I wear make-up sometimes, but I don't put so much on that it's really noticable. Sometimes when I'm alone I like to experiment with it just to see how much different I can look. It isn't really an attention thing, since I usually don't go out like that. I view it as more like... a living art project.

I like to go shopping sometimes, but only if I'm alone. I'll try stuff on just to see what it looks like. I don't spend much money on clothes though, so I'll often leave a store without buying anything unless I found a good deal.

Sometimes I take "too long" in the bathroom (according to a few guys I've stayed with).

I'll paint my nails (both fingernails and toe nails), but it's usually with a clear polish or a polish with a slight tint. I also try to take care of my nails.

I like to smell good, so I get girly smelling soaps and lotions, but I don't like perfume.

Um, that's all I can think of right now. In grade school (up until I graduated from high school and left home) I was very ungirly. I didn't wear make-up at all, never styled my hair (always either left down or in a pony tail), didn't wear any jewelry except a watch, and had less girly clothes and NEVER wore dresses or skirts. I didn't make an effort to become more girly, I just became more interested when I got older. I'm also thinking more about having a family and being a parent now, which I didn't even want back then. Could it be hormones?

synchronous
26 Sep 2004, 02:57 PM
I have a confession to make. I got all decked out for an impromptu family gathering last week. Wore a skirt, heels, makeup, jewelry, the whole kit. So, I have to admit I do get dressed up from time to time. It was the first time in 6 months time though. I did pack jeans and a sweater for my day trip to change into after the event. lol

There are several issues I have with shopping for clothes. It takes me a long time to make a decision on what I should buy and I always have an uncomfortable feeling paying for the purchase. I often think in terms of utility - do I really need this (the answer is usually no), and is it functional. Also, since I don't spend much time thinking about clothes, I have no feel for what really looks good. The activity is not particularly engaging intellectually. The social aspect of clothe shopping is especially uncomfortable. I go shopping alone too, and, don't particularly care to interact with the sales associates all that much. I have found on-line shopping the best for me.

waxwing
26 Sep 2004, 04:47 PM
Hmm. I wear no jewelry except for my tongue ring. I do not wear dresses. Most of the time I wear sweats, teeshirts, turtlencks, zip-up sweaters, and flip-flops. I have a few jeans that I'll wear, but even they are too restrictive. Make-up. I wear chapstick and if I want to feel pretty I'll put on my powder. Hehe. I know another female INTP who dresses up much more than I do. She wears jewelry and coordinated, tailored, pressed clothes.

booyalab
7 Oct 2004, 11:51 PM
In my early years of high school I experimented with fashion and makeup a little, but I soon realized what a waste it is. I have much more important stuff to spend my money on than a new wardrobe 4 times a year and more than $10 of makeup a month. I don't have any piercings because I wouldn't wear earrings anyways. I rarely wear jewelry because I always forget to take it off and I don't like to worry about coordinating it all. I've been told I'm good looking, so I don't think I need to be concerned about much beyond basic hygiene.

lordog4012
14 Oct 2004, 11:36 PM
I'm fascinated that so many of us hate pink. I supposedly look really good in pink, but *hate* it with a passion. I really like wearing black, blue, gray and army green. I wear mascara all the time cuz I have blonde hair and it looks like I don't have eyelashes unless I wear mascara. I also wear 1 necklace almost all the time. It's a little goldfish made of jade on a thin, black silk cord. I bought it on ebay for $5 and I love it. I also have 3 pierces in each ear, and I wear the same earrings all the time. They are tiny silver hoops and tiny silver animals (1 toucan, 1 turtle). I hate shopping, but if I do have to buy clothes, I go by myself. I work for a shoe company, so I get all my shoes for free. I have like 100 pairs of shoes, but before I started working here I had 4 pairs and they were all very comfy. You won't get me into a skirt or a dress unless it's a special occasion.

Everyone treats me like i'm a complete idiot because I have long blonde hair and blue eyes. It's so annoying!

lauriep
15 Oct 2004, 02:36 AM
I also hate pink. I always thought it was because my parents decorated my childhood room in everything pink. It's nice to see other women that don't do pink!

int
15 Oct 2004, 04:07 AM
What color would you rather have had your room been?

Vagabond
15 Oct 2004, 04:19 AM
Int? Don't paint that room pink. Please.

int
15 Oct 2004, 04:23 AM
I wasn't planning on it - we're thinking a light green (it looks cool) but I want a second opinion. :)

Jezebel
15 Oct 2004, 08:41 AM
I hated pink when I was a kid but I don't mind it now, depending on the shade. That just goes for clothes though, I would never decorate my apartment/room pink.

I like purple and blue a lot as a kid. Well, I still do.

lauriep
15 Oct 2004, 12:26 PM
In high school I painted my room zebra stripes. It was not with my parents' permission but then after it was done they figured it was easier to let me keep it that way. However, as soon as I moved out they wallpapered the entire room.

If I ever move out of an apartment and into a house where I can paint the walls, I think I'd probably go with blue or maybe a light blue-green.

lordog4012
15 Oct 2004, 08:39 PM
I really like blue, too. It's always been my favorite color. I wear all sorts of shades of blue, but I think if I was going to paint my walls blue, I would go for a lighter shade, but not a baby blue. Maybe a little darker than that. I also like the whole earth tone thing for walls. I could go with a tan or a mellow green. It would be really cool to be able to do different rooms in different colors. I live in an apartment, so I have to have white walls for now.

synchronous
17 Oct 2004, 05:17 PM
Hmm, a walk down memory lane.... in high school, I guess after too much fighting for control with my older siblings, my parents just decided to let me have control over the decor in my own room. I had jungle type wall paper on the walls - big prints of fern leaves. My bed was built into the wall, had a wicker basket type chair hanging from the ceiling in the other corner of my room. A red light bulb lit up my room a very subdued warm tone. When you entered my room, it felt like entering another world. It was great inspiration for all those all nighters I pulled trying to complete assignments at the last minute. :)

lordog4012
18 Oct 2004, 07:10 PM
i'm jealous! my parents didn't let me have control over my bedroom colors at first. My room had been pink and purple and flowery when I was younger, so at about age 14 I rebelled, pulled the wallpaper off my walls, invited friends over, and drew w/ colored markers all over the walls. it looked hideous, but i loved it! my parents freaked when they saw the walls. they immediately agreed to re-do my room in different colors, so we ended up compromising w/ blue and white stripes.