who you are and who you want to be

[euterpenc]

http://similarminds.com/p_jung.html

Differences between your "real" self and your "ideal" self.

It said I was really and INTJ, and ideally an INTJ. I've been getting INTJ everytime I take the test lately.

[MacGuffin]

Uh, I accidently hit no - but I meant yes. INTP on both.

[MaroonBells]

real is INTP, ideal is ENTJ

The NT part has always been very clear in whatever test I took, the I/E was less clear. J is often so much handier in daily life than P although I see the benefits (stress/ chaos/ deadlines don't make me nervous at all and I feel in total control in new or unfamiliar situations). The N actually gives me the most stress in private life as my wife is very S. For one I do not read any traffic signs and often go by gut, which is not always the safest in traffic! :)

[Zero Angel]

I am an INTP (about 48% J) who wants to be an INTJ (50% J, which is actually an INTx). Yep, I am 2 percentage points away from being who I want to be. :)

[coffeezombie]

I just picked "yes" without taking Tim's new silly poll.

[sbw]

ideal INTP, real ENTP.

this makes sense, I guess.

Scott

[One]

i thought i was an infp at first, then I thought I was infj, but in actuality i am an enfj.

i wanted to be the "i" but i'm not.

[Nighthawk]

Who Am I: INTP first time, INTJ second time

Who Do I Want To Be: ENTJ both times. The field marshal ... that figures. Damned military indoctrination.

[Zero Angel]

People actually want to be introverts? :0

[SheepDog]

INTP/INTP
The only pair that was really different is that I'm really a little bit more Introverted than the ideal. I think this is that Extravert bias at work.

[booyalab]

ideal type- ENTJ, real type INTP

It sounds kind of right but it might just be based on my present mood. In any case I dont lose sleep over it.

[Zero Angel]

Present mood? Your entire tone and posting style has changed over the past few months from immature hothead (I first thought you were a teenage male) to cold bitch. I wonder what gives.

[booyalab]

Present mood? Your entire tone and posting style has changed over the past few months from immature hothead (I first thought you were a teenage male) to cold bitch. I wonder what gives.
lmfao :lol:

[Zero Angel]

:D Ah, I like being direct. I hate when people beat around the bush, insinuate, and assume, its cowardly IMO. (didnt mean to come off as such a knob, LOL)

[booyalab]

:D Ah, I like being direct. I hate when people beat around the bush, insinuate, and assume, its cowardly IMO. (didnt mean to come off as such a knob, LOL)

I thought your post was hilarious. That half-apology kind of ruins it though

[Boneca]

Real me=INTP, ideal me=INTJ.
Not strange at all, I desperately need some order in my life. And a bit more extraversion would probably not hurt either.

[nBT]

I just picked "yes" without taking Tim's new silly poll.
i am too did pick that poll

[Wilde Mutton]

Ideal type: INTP
Actual type:INTP

Wow, I guess I like myself...

[euterpenc]

Lots of you got ENTJ as ideal self. There was another thread about ENTJ being INTP shadow. Interesting correlation.

[Vagabond]

I am my ideal type. That test is lame. :p

[Star Cannon]

ideal type - ESTJ, real type - INTP

I thought it was more redundant than anything else. But yeah. Going around with one's head in the clouds is not such a good thing at school. My math teacher called me up to see my test grade and I was just: "Huh?" I got up there, stare at the paper and it's like: "So what about it?"
Teacher:"See you test grade."
Me:"Oh." Shambles back to seat with class laughing at me.
Yeah, so a bit more down to earthness would be prima. Otherwise, I like myself just the way I am.

[Ka.avik]

People actually want to be introverts? :0 The only thing in this test to get positive numbers was the ideal-me, introvertedness. 3. Vs 9 for the actual me, but...
well, and a 3/1 in N (ideal/actual). And a 1/1 in P. All other five categories scored no higher than zero.

[Winterpark]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INFJ

Yeah, Right.

[Ascending]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INFJ
My dad tested ENTJ and his ideologys drive me absolutly crazy.


One word pretty much sums up my responce.
*Ehem.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I suppose I could argue that in places of asking about my true self I rated lowish because I truley believe I still have much much development ahead. I'm also in an altruistic mood.

[MasterMerk]

Ideal type - ENTP, real type - INT/FP

T/F scores were dead even.

[Sir Isaac Lime]

Ideal - INTP
Real - INTP

Even before I knew anything about personality types, I was always envious of the Magician/Guru/Philosopher/Sage/Seeker archetype wherever it made in appearance

[LuridLemur]

Ideal: INTP Real: INTP

I'd like to be less introverted and a little more J for good measure. Then I wouldn't have as many problems interacting and I might actually finish things occasionally.

[euterpenc]

I retook and got INTP/INTP. First time I did it I was half high. I think my defense mechanism is being an INTJ. I get very stone faced, and weak in relating to people as a defense machanism, and I feel vulnerable when high, hence triggereing it. But naturally I think I'm INTP for sure. Speaking of getting high... brb..

[sbw]

zeitgeist, I'm at work. And consequently jealous.

Scott

[shaytana]

ideal type - INTP, real type - INTP

[Zero Angel]

I thought your post was hilarious. That half-apology kind of ruins it though
I will think of something hateful to say...eventually.

[LuridLemur]

I covet your avatar shaytana...

[euterpenc]

zeitgeist, I'm at work. And consequently jealous.

Scott

lol

There seems to be quite a few smokers here.

[moni]

- Real: ISFJ (err... i shift quite a bit between ISFJ and ISTJ... it all depends on my mood)

- Ideal: ESTJ (I really wish I could be more outgoing... and better at interviews and giving oral presentations :blush: )

[keetah]

(I really wish I could be more outgoing... and better at interviews and giving oral presentations :blush: )
that's exactly what I wish, too.. ->
so another wannabe ESTJ here (although i never would have dreamed of wanting to be an ESTJ, especially not an S)

[LuridLemur]

Interacting with the ESTJs I know is the worst part of my day.

[elle]

It says my ideal is an enfp, but my real self is an entp.... very strange... but i think that it's just circumstance/not actuality...

[Fingers]

ideal type - ENTP, real type - INTJ

Buggery my P went J

[vacant space]

Ideal INTJ
Real ISTP

Considering my borderline INTP score, I'd say I'm halfway there. Need to improve on the E & the F.

[ChristiRB]

OMG! I got ENTJ on both. *faints*

[Shai Gar]

i would like to be more like holmes. an INTJ.

but real self intp ideal self is an entp

[iponjs]

Aye yam what aye yam... Really INTP, wannabe INTP...

Though my hidden desire is to be more J than I am (though not really J)...

So if I want to be more J does that mean my introverted T isn't really my strongest suit? Doesn't that make my extroverted N the strongest? Doesn't that make me an ENTP?

This only reinforces my beliefs that the MBTI, like all models, is limited. We spend far too much time splitting hairs over this stuff, trying to find details in what is really a rough model. Interesting to be sure (and we're obviously all suckers for a new test) but useful?

[attila_the_hunny]

Holy crap.
Real Me: INTP
Ideal Me: ESFJ
Yeah...I'll never be the ideal me!

[SwirlingSugarSparkles]

I am really an INTP.


But I would like to be an ENTP.

[Melange]

Ideal-INTJ
Real-INTP

[sunako]

ideal type - ISTJ, real type - INTP

Not that I hadn't predicted the outcomes already, because after all this time, I still can't banish the image of myself working hard at the desk for hours on end -- which I think was the main source of dissatisfaction, guilt and misery when I ended up doing the exact opposite, even when I received As for my work.

[Hexchild]

Am an INTP, want to be a somewhat less introverted INTP.

[EmmaPeel]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

[Utopmk]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

[Capitu]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INFP

Great... I want to be my brother...

[25fd]

ideal type - INTP, real type - INTP

I fantasize sometimes about the other NT types. However, ideally I see myself as a wizard(shaman) living in top of the mountain where people with power come to seek my advise.

[Poster]

Real type = INFJ, Ideal Type = ENFJ

I prefer to be an INFJ, but with some improvement in the socializing area. If I could lose some of the reticence ingrained in my personality and be more forward and direct with people, I would be my ideal self. People mistake me for an INTJ, but I'm glad I'm not. I like myself just the way I am.

[Eileen]

Who I am: INFJ
Who I want to be: ENTJ

I think that's true, especially in terms of my job.

[aklight]

Ideal - ENTJ
Real - ENTJ

Still room for improvement though, since I'm only a soft-core ENTJ.

type ideal real type behavior
I -6 -4 quiet, private, few friends
E 7 6 outgoing, expressive, many friends
N 2 4 random, mysterious, non linear
S -1 -1 sequential, factual, practical
F -1 -3 emotional, passionate, selfless
T 6 4 willful, stoic, self reliant
J 6 1 planned, regimented, orderly
P -4 -3 spontaneous, playful, fun

[zhang_bob]

Ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP


type ideal real type behavior
I -4 1 quiet, private, few friends
E 7 -6 outgoing, expressive, many friends
N 5 8 random, mysterious, non linear
S 3 -1 sequential, factual, practical
F -1 -6 emotional, passionate, selfless
T 4 7 willful, stoic, self reliant
J 5 -3 planned, regimented, orderly
P 2 0 spontaneous, playful, fun

[geniusndisguise]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

I really didn't need the test for that.

[Dom]

Real: enfp

Ideal: entp

but I don't like the test, having both option next to each other...

[Heleuiski]

What a silly test.

[spasmfrog]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INFP

In response to whoever commented on the large number of people with ENTJ as their ideal, yup. I would have picked ENTJ as ideal even without the test though.

I don't think the INFP part is totally off either. I have very strong emotions, I just put forth a constant, conscious effort to restrain them and think clearly. Of course right now I have my son sitting in my lap, I wound up getting him in the middle of the week instead of the weekend and I'm happy about it so maybe that influenced the test a bit. :)

EDIT: I actually like this test, maybe it helps you see how you're idealizing your responses to other MBTI-style tests.

[Birdsnest]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

Admittedly, it would be helpful to be more organized for the accounting profession.

[moni]

Hmm, after taking this test again I got:

real: ISFJ
ideal: ENTJ

[Monica]

I won't take the test because I just took the actual MBTI test last week and I know I have no discrepancy between what I am and what I wish to be. I don't wish to be anything different than I am. This test is futile.

[Ferrus]

ideal type - ENTP, real type - INTP

[Mr Pink]

ideal type - ENTP, real type - INTP

Ditto.

[Ellipsis]

ideal type - INFJ, real type - INTP

I figured that before...My "IN" is ussally in the 90% range but the "F" and "J" are much lower..."J" can be about 50% thats on regular MBTI tests...I guess all I got to work on is that dam "feeling" thing and I'll be the ideal me...

[Shimpei]

Real type: ISFJ, Ideal type: ESFJ
Oh no, I don't want to be ESFJ, just a bit more outgoing.

[imfrellinggay]

ideal type - INTP, real type - ENTP

[Park]

Ideal INTJ
Real INTP

[FuelShopTech]

Real type: INTP

Ideal type: ISTJ

How odd.

[mr. treat]

real: intj
ideal: istj

seems about right

[attila_the_hunny]

Real type: INTP

Ideal type: ISTJ

How odd.

Not as odd as being an INTP and apparently secretly wanting to be an ESFJ.

[CEOofRawness]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

[CEOofRawness]

I won't take the test because I just took the actual MBTI test last week and I know I have no discrepancy between what I am and what I wish to be. I don't wish to be anything different than I am. This test is futile.

Well yea... I took an MBTI test and got INTP, and I wouldn't change for anyone. I wouldn't want to be anyone else in the world, really. It is sorta fun though. I do see that I might want to even myself out a bit though...

[Monica]

I can honestly say, if have found myself to be INTJ and am supremely happy with that. I would never wish I was something else, especially at this point in my adult life. Maybe when I was like 6 or something. That's just me. I think INTJs would agree with me. We know what we want and when we want it. And we want it really bad. But we don' t change our objective.

You know what? I love life. I am glad I am unique. Am I unique? I hope so. I love the whole process of living and interacting with people, even though I truly only love interacting with people who I would have an intimate relationship with. But I like everyone else, really!

[CEOofRawness]

I can honestly say, if have found myself to be INTJ and am supremely happy with that. I would never wish I was something else, especially at this point in my adult life. Maybe when I was like 6 or something. That's just me. I think INTJs would agree with me. We know what we want and when we want it. And we want it really bad. But we don' t change our objective.

You know what? I love life. I am glad I am unique. Am I unique? I hope so. I love the whole process of living and interacting with people, even though I truly only love interacting with people who I would have an intimate relationship with. But I like everyone else, really!

Likewise, I'd never change. And at other times, I'm glad to be unique. In fact I hope that I am. I don't like to associate myself with the majority of the public.

[dubbeltop]

ideal type - ESFJ, real type - ISFJ

[cheney27]

Seems pretty accurate:
ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

[whosmatt]

probably not the best place for my first post...

says ideal INTJ real ISTP. I've never taken a test that didn't show me as INTP, though the N and P seem weakest every time. very strong I and T

[hardkar]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

:huh:

[FuelShopTech]

Not as odd as being an INTP and apparently secretly wanting to be an ESFJ.

FREAK! =))

[Brad324]

ideal: ENTJ real: INFP

Strange how I get INFP 30% of the time on these tests...

[Acala1]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

Accurate...

[Methofelis]

Ideal: INTJ Real: INTP

Eh, seems about right I suppose. J/P has always been my weakest percentage contrast.

Not sure if I'd say that I want to slide to the J full time.

[Night]

INTJ - real
ENTP - ideal

[Delilah]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

Yeah, that's kinda true.

But if I had a maid and a financial planner I'd be okay.

[Methofelis]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

Yeah, that's kinda true.

But if I had a maid and a financial planner I'd be okay.

I'm bored. Hire me. I'll fail miserably at the maid crap, but I knows me sums.

[Delilah]

I'm bored. Hire me. I'll fail miserably at the maid crap, but I knows me sums.

Could you at least remind me to pay the bills?

[Methofelis]

Could you at least remind me to pay the bills?

Sure, as long as you pay mine too... I mean... sure. Just don't read who they're addressed to... :ph34r:

[Delilah]

Just don't read who they're addressed to... :ph34r:

Why would I start now?

[Methofelis]

Why would I start now?

Good deal. I'll start someday, if I remember.

[Toonia]

INFJ - real
INTJ - ideal

I wish I were a bit tougher and consistently objective.

[Ptah]

Surprise surprise. I'm an INTP who just wants to be more INTP, within the narrow band that is possible...

[Roger Mexico]

ideal type - ESTJ, real type - INTP


Hmm.

Get back to work!

OK, I would enjoy being a hard-ass.

I like to think I'd be really good at managing people if "people" weren't mostly idiots.

[Sojourner]

Actual INFP, ideal INTP.

o.o

Cool!

[Delilah]

ideal type - ESTJ, real type - INTP


Hmm.

Get back to work!

OK, I would enjoy being a hard-ass.


I married one of those, they are very annoying, I suggest you rethink that.

[Roger Mexico]

I married one of those, they are very annoying, I suggest you rethink that.

Mmm, yeah, ENTJ does sound a little cooler.

I'm in the doldrums of realizing the years of sweat, tears, and even occasionally blood I put into my intellectual pursuits haven't translated into me being a valued commodity in a capitalist society.

Transference or projection or something. Put me in charge and the bastards'd know what time it is real fuckin' quick.

[songbird36]

I like being INTJ, although because it's an unusual female type, I can often feel very alone in the world. I don't think I'd swap to any other type.

[Ptah]

ideal type - ESTJ, real type - INTP
I like to think I'd be really good at managing people if "people" weren't mostly idiots.

:theclap:

Actually, perhaps I would wish that I could shazaam myself into an SJ to execute my nefarious NT plots. I would cook them up as an NT, pass them to myself as an SJ, execute them in full belief that I am "helping people" and/or what is "right" and "wrong" , and then flip back to NT to enjoy the humorous implications. Course, the problem there is that as an SJ, I'd probably never want to flip back to my damnable NT self.

Reasons to stay INTP and heckle from the sidelines instead.


Mmm, yeah, ENTJ does sound a little cooler.
I'm in the doldrums of realizing the years of sweat, tears, and even occasionally blood I put into my intellectual pursuits haven't translated into me being a valued commodity in a capitalist society.

Hey, hey now. Thats the SJ version of a capitalist society, recently misguided further by a few key wailing NFs.

Look at it this way -- if you had been the one to set this mess up, wouldn't you be laughing right now? The evil in the world is that we're on the wrong end of the joke, if you ask me :devil:

[Roger Mexico]

Actually, perhaps I would wish that I could shazaam myself into an SJ to execute my nefarious NT plots. I would cook them up as an NT, pass them to myself as an SJ, execute them in full belief that I am "helping people" and/or what is "right" and "wrong" , and then flip back to NT to enjoy the humorous implications. Course, the problem there is that as an SJ, I'd probably never want to flip back to my damnable NT self.

Reasons to stay INTP and heckle from the sidelines instead.

Well, what we really should do is build some training camps in a remote part of the country and then slyly kidnap a few hundred SJ children and raise them in isolation. Then we'd have a small army of brainwashed minions at our disposal.


Hey, hey now. Thats the SJ version of a capitalist society, recently misguided further by a few key wailing NFs.

Look at it this way -- if you had been the one to set this mess up, wouldn't you be laughing right now? The evil in the world is that we're on the wrong end of the joke, if you ask me :devil:

Hmm, God as a sociopath with a misanthropic sense of humor. You might be onto something.

[Sojourner]

Hmm, God as a sociopath with a misanthropic sense of humor. You might be onto something.

Have you read Michael Chabon's "The God of Dark Laughter"?

[bluebell]

Real - INTP
Ideal - ENTJ

Heh. Um, I guess so. I don't necessarily want to be E. More that I'd like to be a bit less quiet and interact more with people. Maybe.

[pangolin]

It says my ideal type is an ENTJ and my real type is an INTP.

[Salix]

My real type is INTP (of course!). My ideal is INTJ, though the introversion and extroversion was very close. I do want to become a little more extroverted.

Breaking it down, it shows that I want to become less I, more E, way more N, a little more S, WAY less F, a little more T, more J, and less P. Looks like I'm headed somewhat towards ENTJ. I'd say that is pretty accurate, being too P has caused me to tread water way too often.

[Shoot!]

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

[intpgolfer]

People actually want to be introverts? :0

The next worst thing to being alone - is not being alone.

1. I am an intp - with a good sense of irony
2. I want to be an intp - with a better than average sense of humor

[Kahlua]

Said I was ISTJ and Ideal is ENTP.

Of all types ISTJ is not nearly me at all. My ideal is ENT/FP, but I didn't need a test to tell me that.

[AliciaS2R]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

I suppose I would like to be a bit more organized and outgoing.

[kuraiken]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

I'm INTJ wannabe huh,I'm already happy with being INTP.

[charred_heart]

real type: INTP
ideal type: XXXX Multi-Faceted Freedom Fighter

[Mirage]

Real type - INTP
Ideal type - INTP

I think my ideals might have changed after learning about MBTI.

[Karl]

ideal type - INTP, real type - INFP

However, the "real me" T-F divide is at exactly 50%, so I think I'm okay in claiming that I am what I want, at least in regard to the basics.

[Latte]

Slight difference for me only, but both INTP.

I'm biased though.

[zago]

Ideal: ENTP
Real: INTP

Figures. I'm working on becoming more extraverted, though, because that's what will make me happiest. The only reason I get "I" is because I can be shy and such, which is totally different from not wanting to talk to people at all.

[DeathNote]

ideal you |||||| real you xxxxxx
Introversion |||||||||| 36%
xxxxxxxxxxxxx 53%
Extroversion |||||||||||||||| 66%
xxxxxxxxxxx 40%
Intuitive |||||||||||||||| 63%
xxxxxxxxxx 70%
Sensing |||||||||||| 43%
xxxxxxxxxxx 43%
Feeling |||||| 26%
xxxxxxxxxxxx 33%
Thinking |||||||||||||||| 63%
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 60%
Judging |||||||||||||||||||| 83%
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 50%
Perceiving |||||||||| 36%
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 56%

ideal type - ENTJ, real type - INTP

[Ryuko]

I'm a real INTP who wants to be an ENTJ... interesting. My extroversion is the same for both real and ideal, but I want to be less introverted on my ideal one.

On my N/S and T/F axis, who I want to be and who I am is almost identical.

Apparently, I want to be a lot more judging and less perceiving... o.O;

[HeavyMetal]

I'm an INTJ who wants to be a ISTJ, ideal=INTJ

[J.d.]

ideal type - INTJ, real type - INTP

[Linz]

Real type INTP, ideal INTJ.

[Lethe]

Real: INTJ
Ideal: ENTJ

[djm]

I like who I am, it's others I would change not myself.

Reality - INTP
Ideal - INTP

That's not to say that I think INTP is necesarily any better than all other personality types (some though yes), rather that I am comfortable in my own skin and recognise the fultility of changing type.

[Oculus Sinister]

It said I was INTP who wants to be like INTJ. But, I think I am more of an INFP who will end up INTJ like in their behavior. I had a bout of existential blalblablalbla life circumstance which caused a delay in this transformation.

[ObtainGnosis]

I'd like to be an innovator in the exciting field of teledildonics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics

[Shatartar]

ideal you |||||| real you ||||||
Introversion |||||||||||||| 60%
|||||||||||||| 60%
Extroversion |||||||||||| 46%
|||||||||| 36%
Intuitive |||||||||||||| 53%
|||||||||||||| 53%
Sensing |||||||||||| 43%
|||||||||||||| 53%
Feeling |||||||||||| 43%
|||||||||||| 50%
Thinking |||||||||||||| 56%
|||||||||||| 46%
Judging |||||||||||||||| 63%
|||||||||| 36%
Perceiving |||||||||||| 46%
|||||||||||||| 60%
ideal type - INTP, real type - ISFP

ISFP!! I must be in touch with my feminine side today :/

[Dansker]

Real type: INTP
Ideal type: INTJ

[metalight]

Ideal: ENTP