Real Suicide Letter

[Stem]

I've tried everything I know to make things better. I know that one less person in the world, if not benefecial, would not be a significant loss.

I am far beyond frustrated, every other method of escape has lead me to the same place.

There is only one way out. Please, everyone wish me success.

[euterpenc]

I've tried everything I know to make things better. I know that one less person in the world, if not benefecial, would not be a significant loss.

I am far beyond frustrated, every other method of escape has lead me to the same place.

There is only one way out. Please, everyone wish me success.

Good luck space cadet. *salute*

[Mariel]

Please don't do this. You leave behind nothing but turmoil for those who care about you. It's selfish to think that your escape would not be a significant loss. There are other ways to make yourself disappear.

[Trolsk]

Already?

The best of luck to you, and don't rule out dropping by if it doesn't work out.

[kafkaesque]

What other methods of escape have you tried?

[tragula]

If you are serious then I completely agree with Mariel. It's not the right way to prove to the people around you that they should have listened...

Why don't you tell us about your troubles? Maybe we can help.

[Chukamuk]

I've tried everything I know to make things better. I know that one less person in the world, if not benefecial, would not be a significant loss.

I am far beyond frustrated, every other method of escape has lead me to the same place.

There is only one way out. Please, everyone wish me success.
Dude, I will not wish you(or anyone else for that matter) success in ending your life. And you haven't tried everything or you wouldn't be planning this course of action.

I don't know the specifics of your problems so I don't know what to say to make you change your mind. But, I do know I lost my best friend to suicide 17 years ago and not a day goes by that I don't suffer his loss.

Call a friend or loved one or local suicide prevention hotline but please don't don't give up and don't do this horrible thing.

[tragula]

1.800.SUICIDE

[Star]

I think it's silly to call him selfish or try to scare him by mentioning how what he does affects others. It's his life, not anyone else's.

That said, there is a very special mental place to be found when you've decided to end your life, that can allow you to go on living in a much more liberated way. I call this the "walking suicide". It means that you can mentally throw away all that used to matter and stress you out, and just go with whatever you want, because, well, you could be dead, so what's the big deal about life?

Does it make sense? And can you get to that place, perhaps?

[Birdsnest]

Stem,
Don't even think about it. Whatever it is, its not going to last forever, this is just temporary and will pass. This is just temporary pain.

You may be having a bad time right now, but things change so quickly. A brighter day will come.

Life can throw us all some fast balls, and be really hard. But please just plow through it, and ask for help. Pray or ask it of us, I will send you prayers and good thoughts to get through it. Whoever put it in your mind that you you werent significant was very wrong. We really really care, I do. Please hang in there.

Remember that life is hard, but to end it, is pointless. Reincarnation, says that if you end your life early, you will have to live this life ALL over again and endure all the pain until you learn your lesson, whatever it is. IN case thats true, would you want to relive everything all over again? No, its better to stick it out and get through it.

Everything could completely change next week, and be absolutely great. IF there is anything we or I can help with or you need to talk about to anyone, please don't hesitate to email. We care a WHOLE lot, all of us. Of course you are important, very important.

Things might seem bad right now, but in the larger scheme of things, its just a bad phase, and if you forgive yourself, your situation, you will work through it.

I CARE. Please cheer up, I'll send some prayers your way.

Just 'screw' whatever is bringing you down, you are bigger than whatever "lesson" you have. Think of each of lifes problems as "tests" that you have to get through with the best possible grade. And visualize how you want it to be, and shape it, we are master sculpters of our lives. Remember this: Don't ever ever ever ever ever ever give up.

[Star]

Reincarnation, says that if you end your life early, you will have to live this life ALL over again and endure all the pain until you learn your lesson, whatever it is.
I heard that this doesn't apply if the method of suicide is starvation unto death. Try that one, Stem. :devil:

[Sam172]

I CARE. Please cheer up, I'll send some prayers your way.
Amen to that

[Sackanaka]

I don't care if any of this sounds fake or forced.
I'd much rather have Stem live than die.

Sincerely,
R. Naka

[Eileen]

I wish you profound failure at this--and great success at everything else.


You are in my prayers.

[Sir Isaac Lime]

Instead of drowing yourself in shallow water - try riding the biggest wave

You plan to die anyways, you might as well ride this fucker like a roller coaster.

[kuranes]

I think it's silly to call him selfish or try to scare him by mentioning how what he does affects others. It's his life, not anyone else's.

That said, there is a very special mental place to be found when you've decided to end your life, that can allow you to go on living in a much more liberated way. I call this the "walking suicide". It means that you can mentally throw away all that used to matter and stress you out, and just go with whatever you want, because, well, you could be dead, so what's the big deal about life?

Does it make sense? And can you get to that place, perhaps?


What Deep Sky said sounds like a good idea. And remember sometimes people only partially succeed with their chosen method, which leaves you REALLY fucked up. Try something outrageous like moving to the far east to be a "conversational English" guy. All you have to do is be able to speak English, so I hear. What a way to start over with a blank slate. Maybe somewhere like Thailand or Vietnam? K

[Sir Isaac Lime]

Question: A man commits suicide by jumping off of a 10 story building. Is his act of jumping one of courage or fear?

[coffeezombie]

Question: A man commits suicide by jumping off of a 10 story building. Is his act of jumping one of courage or fear?

It defends whether you define courage as putting yourself on the line for a worthy purpose or putting yourself on the line for any stupid reason whatsoever. I'll just say that the man "has balls."

[TPol]

"Having Balls" = staying alive.

[Biff_Loman]

Stem: provided that you are still alive, I urge you to reconsider.

It is always incredibly difficult to offer hope to the hopeless. Just take it from me: you are worth more than this. You are better than this. You are more powerful than this. You deserve more than this.

As for myself, I decided long ago not to end my life as a way of escape. I will inevitably die eventually; as for everything between now and then: this too shall pass. The release of death will come whether I like it or not, but in the meantime my life is mine!!!

[SheepDog]

...there is a very special mental place to be found when you've decided to end your life, that can allow you to go on living in a much more liberated way. I call this the "walking suicide". It means that you can mentally throw away all that used to matter and stress you out, and just go with whatever you want, because, well, you could be dead, so what's the big deal about life?

Does it make sense? And can you get to that place, perhaps?
I've stood on that bridge (literally, and figuratively), and that is the sentiment that I give credit for saving my life. When you're willing to give up on life, why not let go of all the crap that's causing you angst? When you're willing to give up everything, why not just give up on all the things that are causing you grief? I mean all the expectations, the judgements, the people that you cannot please, etc.

Of course, we ARE all going to die anyway, so it pretty much still applies, even when you aren't standing on the bridge.

[Serotonin]

I've stood on that bridge (literally, and figuratively), and that is the sentiment that I give credit for saving my life. When you're willing to give up on life, why not let go of all the crap that's causing you angst? When you're willing to give up everything, why not just give up on all the things that are causing you grief? I mean all the expectations, the judgements, the people that you cannot please, etc.

Of course, we ARE all going to die anyway, so it pretty much still applies, even when you aren't standing on the bridge.

I've been "of walking suicide" for the past 18 months or so now. Amazingly liberating.

[cjs55]

I know I'll kill myself when the time is right. Unless I die before then...

But is the time really right?

And yes, Deepsky is correct, if you can reach that point at least.

[Serotonin]

I know I'll kill myself when the time is right. But is the time really right?


I would say if you're asking yourself that question, then no, the time isn't right.

[Lee]

It's the ones who don't post suicide letters that you have to worry about.

[cjs55]

I would say if you're asking yourself that question, then no, the time isn't right.

I'm asking him that question, and only I would know if it was time regardless.

[Serotonin]

I'm asking him that question, and only I would know if it was time regardless.

Oh ok I thought you were going all existential on us.
And Lee sometimes people leave hints around... so it is wise to pay attention if someone is acting strangely.

Stem is not online :(

[cjs55]

One thing concerning Deepsky's comment: It can lead to things such as Columbine or the Unabomber's actions. A quote from the latter:

"I knew what I wanted: To go and live in some wild place. But I didn’t know how to do so. In those days there were no primitivist movements, no survivalists, and anyone who left a promising carees in mathematics to go live among forests or mountains would have been regarded as foolish or crazy. I did not know even one person who would have understood why I wanted to do such a thing. So, deep in my heart, I felt convinced that I would never be able to escape from civilization.
Because I found modern life absolutely unacceptable, I grew increasingly hopeless until, at the age of 24, I arrived at a kind of crisis: I felt so miserable that I didn’t care whether I lived or died. But when I reached that point, a sudden change took place: I realized that if I didn’t care whether I lived ot died, then I didn’t need to fear the consequences of anything I might do. Therefore I could do anything I wanted. I was free! That was the great turning-point in my life because it was then that I acquired courage, which has remained with me ever since. It was at that time, too, that I became certain that I would soon go to live in the wild, no matter what the consequences. I spent two years teaching at the University of California in order to save some money, then I resigned my position and went to look for a place to live in the forest."

[Sir Isaac Lime]

I've seen at least 20 suicide letters on messageboards, none of which actually went through it. They all just wanted attention.

[Claverhouse]

Think of reincarnation as re-entry...



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[kafkaesque]

I've seen at least 20 suicide letters on messageboards, none of which actually went through it. They all just wanted attention.

Sometimes they need to draw attention to the fact that they are going through a genuine crisis.

[coffeezombie]

The problem is, I think that if we express that he is not going to do it, that he will think that he needs to do it in order to "save face."

[Circe]

If anyone here has had any personal contact with Stem, or knows his phone number or such, I urge you to contact the authorities and make this known to them.

Can the Admins here run a search of the IP and perhaps pass this on to the authorities so that they may locate Stem?

Any animal or human does not have to suffer alone. We are, whether we like it, or even see it, in this world together.

Yes people, Stem is needing and perhaps even craving attention, he needs professional attention NOW.

[Claverhouse]

Mike's having some fun. It's an INTP thing.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Circe]

Mike's having some fun. It's an INTP thing.



Claverhouse :ph34r:
This, you can be certain of Claverhouse?

[Serotonin]

Mike's having some fun. It's an INTP thing.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

If he is then it's at the expense of the rest of INTPCentral.

[Claverhouse]

so it is wise to pay attention if someone is acting strangely.

As far as I can see, I wouldn't even notice: most of you act very strangely at the best of times.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Shai Gar]

is he dead yet?

i prayed damnit, if he isnt dead i want my prayer back

[Sir Isaac Lime]

I stopped giving a shit about these kind of posts. The common response on some other forums is "KILL YOURSELF! NOW!"

["InsertNameHere"]

I'm just waiting for him to come back and say, "haha! i got you guys good!" but then again I watch South Park too often...

[Claverhouse]

Fairly sure, if you are worried. He's referring to Stem his avatar here, and entering into the cycle of rebirth.

And it's not malicious.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[purple13]

If it is a joke, it is pretty fucked up and immature.

If not, please seek help.

[ApeTheDog]

If you're going to kill yourself for real, why not attach a good cause to it?

For example: Go to that place in canada where they're clubbing all the seals to death and kill yourself in front of the camera dressed as a seal, shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING!".

You won't have died in vain, and you'll have done something right. Plus you'll be remembered.

But I do wish you wouldn't do this. It's your choice to make, and my conscience definately objects to this - I have to try and save you, just so I wouldn't be the guy who let some other person die. If you want to talk about this, contact me in PM, or just talk... this is a good time to just spill all your problems and doubts and all that - if we can't help you, at least it'll make us depressed along with you.

[Circe]

Fairly sure, if you are worried. He's referring to Stem his avatar here, and entering into the cycle of rebirth.

And it's not malicious.



Claverhouse :ph34r:
Thanks, Claverhouse.
I understand. Since I have lost a son to suicide, I may have overreacted.

[Sackanaka]

mock goading
lecturing
sincerity
worry
humor
resentment
empathy
apathy


I repeat, I don't care if all of this is bullshit; it causes me to worry regardless. I don't care if my response sounds like bullshit. I don't care if there is no logical reason for me to worry, since millions of people die on a daily basis anyway, and I never knew or will know of them. Likewise, I don't know Stem or anyone on this board on a personal basis, but I accept that the people of this board are in fact real (to answer all those inane questions regarding multiplicity and credibility of usernames), and thus care even if it is just another person on the internet and this world. I, like others on this board, would much rather not hear of the death of another person with whom we have had contact.
Perhaps it's my underlying F nature which causes me to grieve over the suffering of others, perhaps it's because I'm naive and immature. I assure you that this isn't meant to post-whore, and isn't meant to sound condescending or authoritative.
This is just a concern from a stranger from another part of the world, member of INTPCentral, and in desire to express the fact that "I would prefer Stem alive than dead."

[Serotonin]

Fairly sure, if you are worried. He's referring to Stem his avatar here, and entering into the cycle of rebirth.

And it's not malicious.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

I always take the line that there is always a possibility that they are for real. If you blow them off and then they go away and top themselves, the stuff you said will haunt you for life. I can deal with "ha ha you thought I was serious" when it isn't.

["InsertNameHere"]

point taken

[Star]

Fairly sure, if you are worried. He's referring to Stem his avatar here, and entering into the cycle of rebirth.

And it's not malicious.


If this is true, and you know it to be true, I ask that you remove this thread, as it is annoyingly close to shouting "fire!" in a crowded building.

If you do not know that it is true, how dare you say it?

[nobarcode]

Maybe you took it a bit too far this time Mk. I don't know.

[Claverhouse]

If this is true, and you know it to be true, I ask that you remove this thread, as it is annoyingly close to shouting "fire!" in a crowded building.
I agree with the last. However I do not have the power to willy-nilly scrub threads on my whim. Otherwise it upsets those the thoughtful Tragula has dubbed the political correctness cops around here. Still, I've sent a memo.



If you do not know that it is true, how dare you say it?
To quote an still more honoured member: Cry me a fucking river. You suggested he should starve himself to death.

I do not know it to be true: but I'm fairly certain. Mike's been here a long long time. And neither he nor I get upset that easily.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Miss Anthropic]

I always take the line that there is always a possibility that they are for real. If you blow them off and then they go away and top themselves, the stuff you said will haunt you for life. I can deal with "ha ha you thought I was serious" when it isn't.
I totally agree with you Serotonin, and most of us on here take things like this really seriously, since the personal psycho factor appears to be quite high....HOWEVER, that means that being funny about the suicide subject is incredibly unfunny around here because we do take it seriously.

[Clara]

How could we guess, especially those of us who know we're not so good at guessing ?

Mike, I was distressed when you banned yourself. Yes, I think Claverhouse is probably right -- that this means the upset of changes, and not chaotic actions -- maybe you'll explain, and maybe you won't, what must seen obvious to you, that I ( same as others posting in this thread ) am missing.

Maybe it's the fault of the premise : that escape could address frustration. See, I have no clue. Not that you have to address that either... however, it would be good to know you're still walking around, and that some of the words I could read might be some of yours.

[shum]

intp drama queens

who knew?

[Mariel]

i sincerely hope that this was not a hoax. if so, not funny.

[kafkaesque]

i sincerely hope that this was not a hoax. if so, not funny.

I hope that it was a hoax.

[Mariel]

i didn't mean that how it sounded.

[Serotonin]

A snake, a hair snake in fact, flicking its tongue at a girl's nipple. Did you draw that? Neat.

[MasterMerk]

There is only one way out. Please, everyone wish me success.

You do whatever you feel you've got to do. I've been stuck there, and it's no fun. I would however, advise you to not die, because something interesting could happen that you'd miss out on if you were dead.

[Ka.avik]

I would however, advise you to not die, because something interesting could happen that you'd miss out on if you were dead. And whatever happens to you after you die, will happen. After you die. INTPs are known for their patience, aren't they? Give it a few more decades.

Don't take life so seriously....you'll never get out alive

[CrackerJack]

Stem,
Hope your still around to read this, but I think you know that you are suffering from depression or related illness. You have to sit this out until it gets better, (you know it will) There are many depression sites and forums to help you through.

Personally I have no problem with killing myself, i think the idea ok, I just havn't done it yet, as I always think that I will hang on and see if things get better, Although when your in the depressed state it feels like they never will.

[Hypnos]

Dear Stem,

If you're still alive, please do me the following favors in order to save my tax dollars upon your oblivion:

* Liquidate all your possessions to avoid probate court proceedings

* Do it in a private space near the coroner that is easy to clean, like a storage locker

* Provide the location and time of your consumnation to a non-emergency police phone number shortly beforehand

I am sincerely yours; best wishes.

[Serotonin]

* Provide the location and time of your consumnation to a non-emergency police phone number shortly beforehand



Who's to say they won't immediately call 911?

[Hypnos]

Who's to say they won't immediately call 911?
Good point. What is needed is some way to assure the authorities that you will be dead by the time they arrive, and that it is a suicide; yet, they must not be so near as to interfere.

Hmmm ... I'm stumped on how to kill yourself and not activate some emergency or investigative service.

[Shai Gar]

dont worry, i have heard that 911 isnt very responsive in any case

[philonightmare]

Good point. What is needed is some way to assure the authorities that you will be dead by the time they arrive, and that it is a suicide; yet, they must not be so near as to interfere.

Hmmm ... I'm stumped on how to kill yourself and not activate some emergency or investigative service.

Make a video of yourself killing yourself, similar to the Life of David Gale movie. Then, while you slowly die (if the method being used allows this) place it somewhere to be found shortly after you finally die.

Hopefully, this will not alert anyone and it will not gather investigations if you provide enough evidence that you are doing it of your own free will, etc.

[Hypnos]

Eh, they'll still send a few beat cops and a detective to pick up the video or make sure that it wasn't a hoax.

[philonightmare]

Eh, they'll still send a few beat cops and a detective to pick up the video or make sure that it wasn't a hoax.

Well, one could always send a call to pick up the video using our brilliant technology --pre-recorded tapes and pre-programmed calling set to dial at a certain time... (does this even exist or am I making it up?) :whistle:

But, it's far more likely that the judge will dismiss the case right away if no other evidence (against your clear decision to commit suicide) is presented. (This is for when the tape is actually discovered after that pre-programmed call)

And a cop or a detective won't be sent out unless there is sufficient suspicion to do so. They get tons of prank calls and are used to ignoring issues like these until it's too late. It will most likely seem a hoax at first --who the heck makes videos nowadays? They'd (the one committing suicide) be more likely try to keep it as secret as possible and be discovered in their basement by their wife/kids hours later or be dramatic about it and jump from the San Franciso Bridge (heh). The simple fact that "video" enters the picture would cause enough suspicion for the investigative forces to not want to deal with it --likely an attempt to copy Paris Hilton, suicide-style.

[Hypnos]

If it's seen as a hoax, your bloated body will be discovered by a civilian who will then call 911, activating the whole investigative apparatus of the state.

If it's not seen as a hoax, there will be an emergency deployment of law enforcement and/or medical personnel.

There is no facility for permitting a suicide to proceed. Even if there's a reasonable belief that it's already been committed, emergency services will be mobilized to be on the safe side.

[philonightmare]

If it's seen as a hoax, your bloated body will be discovered by a civilian who will then call 911, activating the whole investigative apparatus of the state.

If it's not seen as a hoax, there will be an emergency deployment of law enforcement and/or medical personnel.

There is no facility for permitting a suicide to proceed. Even if there's a reasonable belief that it's already been committed, emergency services will be mobilized to be on the safe side.
This presents a dilemma...Let's see...

Go to a country that allows euthanization. There. That solves it. No unnecessary EMT involvement and authorities. Just slip that needle in and you're caput.

[Hypnos]

Blah, where's the fun in that. It's always amusing to figure out how to dispose of a body. This time, it's yours, and you are charged with minimizing convenience to others and the expenditure of tax dollars.

I guess if no one would report you missing (you've quit your job, estranged family, etc.) you could just chain yourself to a block and jump into the ocean.

[philonightmare]

Blah, where's the fun in that. It's always amusing to figure out how to dispose of a body. This time, it's yours, and you are charged with minimizing convenience to others and the expenditure of tax dollars.

I guess if no one would report you missing (you've quit your job, estranged family, etc.) you could just chain yourself to a block and jump into the ocean.

The main endeavour would then be to make it as cheap as possible, I suppose. I think a suicide/any death is nil unto possible in being completely free of expenses --which I think you acknowledge in this latest post.

On disposal of my body: Bury me in the ground with at least a sheet on and I'll be satisified because that will mean a cut in costs for buying a coffin. Do not have a service for me --cuts the cost for my family, if I ever had one to pay for the services in a building I'd rather not have my body in to begin with. Do not give me a gravestone marker --is that even necessary? I mean, who the hell would visit me after my death, and is that even important --not like the dead can help the living? ;)

Or (and I agree with you on the estranged family, etc point)...you could burn yourself alive in a secluded area (only ashes in the wind, nothing to take care of). BUT, you must be a hermit for more than twenty years because that way people will have forgotten that you exist. No one to care=no one to report when you're gone.

Edit: I realize my example for disposal (1) is for a cheaper burial. Not suicide. Oops.

[TPol]

http://www.save.org/

[ohnoaninfp]

I've tried everything I know to make things better. I know that one less person in the world, if not benefecial, would not be a significant loss.

I am far beyond frustrated, every other method of escape has lead me to the same place.

There is only one way out. Please, everyone wish me success.

You got to be fucking kidding me! Your family and us will miss you? Why do you want to end your life for? Whats wrong? you can talk to us. We'll listen. PM me if you want to talk about it. Please don't hurt your self. You don't know how much you mean to the people who love you.

[prometheusdestroyed]

My only advice is if you are going to throw your life away then dedicate to other people instead. Your time will come as it will for all of us. Try helping other people selflessly for 2 months. No theories about the nature of people and whether altruism is a real concept etc etc ad nauseam. Just do it. Whenever I've thought that I've tried everything I've usually just thought about everything and not really done anything. Suggest you make sure you've really tried to 'do' something

[Hypnos]

prometheusdestroyed,

I salute the completeness of your evil. Such a 2 months would cement my plans.

[CoHo]

To quote an still more honoured member: Cry me a fucking river. You suggested he should starve himself to death.

I do not know it to be true: but I'm fairly certain. Mike's been here a long long time. And neither he nor I get upset that easily.
Claverhouse, if you knew this was a joke and you didn't do anything you should have your mod privileges removed. It obviously wasn't fucking funny to some people.

Claverhouse, if you didn't know it was a joke and acted like it was you should have your mod privileges removed. You should be held at a higher standard then other users and I would expect that would include poking fun at suicide letters.

[Sir Isaac Lime]

No shit. Deleting senseless crap but then turning a blind eye to things that should clearly be dealt with.

[coffeezombie]

Claverhouse, if you didn't know it was a joke and acted like it was you should have your mod privileges removed. You should be held at a higher standard then other users and I would expect that would include poking fun at suicide letters.

Oh come on. This is an INTP board. Some of us aren't even close to being feelers and being able to deal effectively with this kind of stuff in an emotional way.

[CoHo]

Some of us aren't even close to being feelers and being able to deal effectively with this kind of stuff in an emotional way.

If they are going to moderate ie run around telling us what is right and wrong they should be held at a higher standard. I don't see how that is being unreasonable.

[Avengardh]

I'm not going to pull an NF here Mike (no offense to the NF's).

If you're dead then that is pretty pathetic.

If you're not, then I request this thread be locked.

[int]

Several attempts have been made, by myself and others, to contact Mike. So at this point it's best to hope for a response.

[shaytana]

From the depths, Mike/Stem/Utopmk is still alive.

[Ka.avik]

From the depths, Mike/Stem/Utopmk is still alive. both the thread, and the forumnite. ... is there a link, I forget now, to the thread talking about the theories and motivations of the online-suicide note? A related concept, but probably both threads don't need moving if there's a reference to the other...

[Claverhouse]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[Bugeater]

I think it's silly to call him selfish or try to scare him by mentioning how what he does affects others. It's his life, not anyone else's.

That said, there is a very special mental place to be found when you've decided to end your life, that can allow you to go on living in a much more liberated way. I call this the "walking suicide". It means that you can mentally throw away all that used to matter and stress you out, and just go with whatever you want, because, well, you could be dead, so what's the big deal about life?

Does it make sense? And can you get to that place, perhaps?
I love that place. It's like having a death wish in the extreme and giving up all your fears, which kind of makes you feel like you can do anything (within the realm of possibility), which you actually can if you work towards it.

[dubbeltop]

he dude i like you and i wish you all the best but i also seen people like you and usually they were confronted with OTHER people hating them because you have class or money or look great. So if possible go to another place where you live now I had major problems with some people because i belief in something and they didnt so i moved and now im poor but very very happy.Of course my parents helped me and i didnt want to kill myself but those people.

[dubbeltop]

Originally Posted by deepsky
I think it's silly to call him selfish or try to scare him by mentioning how what he does affects others. It's his life, not anyone else's.

That said, there is a very special mental place to be found when you've decided to end your life, that can allow you to go on living in a much more liberated way. I call this the "walking suicide". It means that you can mentally throw away all that used to matter and stress you out, and just go with whatever you want, because, well, you could be dead, so what's the big deal about life?

Does it make sense? And can you get to that place, perhaps?


no it doesnt wtf are you on drugs life is more worthy than anything except freedom.And i garantee you that no man on earth deserves that life here than the poster of the suicide note. So lets be smart and hope for the best because.... :)

[Oculus Sinister]

Did Stem ever off himself? Have any INTP's from INTPcentral died?

[MacGuffin]

Did Stem ever off himself? Have any INTP's from INTPcentral died?
No and not that we know of.

[Jennywocky]

No and not that we know of.

The last activity on his account, according to the profile, is a month after this suicide note. Which makes it unlikely that this particular incident lead to suicide (although a later one might have).

I've always wondered if an INTP would be more prone to simply kill themselves without any explanation at all, or to do so with a well-thought out philosophical missive. It's rather hard to take a poll however.

(unless we introduce a hypothetical: If you planned to kill yourself, would you: (1) explain yourself in a note, (2) just do it, (3) post your letter on an online forum to people you did not know well, etc.)

[Oculus Sinister]

The last activity on his account, according to the profile, is a month after this suicide note. Which makes it unlikely that this particular incident lead to suicide (although a later one might have).

I've always wondered if an INTP would be more prone to simply kill themselves without any explanation at all, or to do so with a well-thought out philosophical missive. It's rather hard to take a poll however.

(unless we introduce a hypothetical: If you planned to kill yourself, would you: (1) explain yourself in a note, (2) just do it, (3) post your letter on an online forum to people you did not know well, etc.)

If I did it I would a) make sure I had life insurance months before b) leave no note c) make it look like an accident

[MacGuffin]

The last activity on his account, according to the profile, is a month after this suicide note. Which makes it unlikely that this particular incident lead to suicide (although a later one might have).
That username was banned.

He had, and now continues, to post under another username (http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/member.php?u=7).

[Jennywocky]

If I did it I would a) make sure I had life insurance months before b) leave no note c) make it look like an accident

Well, yeah, that's the problem: If your death is deemed a suicide, your family gets no money to support themselves. Logically, you have to make it look accidental, in order to care for everyone's needs. :)


That username was banned. He had, and now continues, to post under another username.

Guess that suggests he's still alive and kicking. (Unless, of course, it's some nefarious master plot worthy of "The Prestige" or something similar...)

[Ferrus]

Almost all the forums I have been at have had at least ONE suicide note but none of them have ever had someone who carried it out...