UFO seen flying over Chinese airport, July 7, 2010

[aphemix]

http://www.google.com/search?q=ufo+chinese+airport

http://aphemix.com/randomwhat/china-ufo/1.jpg

http://aphemix.com/randomwhat/china-ufo/2.jpg

http://aphemix.com/randomwhat/china-ufo/3.jpg

http://aphemix.com/randomwhat/china-ufo/4.jpg

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[Qfwfq]

Stop teasing me. I rolled my eyes at the last video, but the first ones are difficult to reply to. It's like I want to believe it, and there's pretty substantial evidence it actually occurred, but at the same time I'm not ready to commit myself to the impact it would have if it did.

[aphemix]

Stop teasing me. I rolled my eyes at the last video, but the first ones are difficult to reply to. It's like I want to believe it, and there's pretty substantial evidence it actually occurred, but at the same time I'm not ready to commit myself to the impact it would have if it did.meanwhile you rolled your eyes at the last one. Pfff. You are in a dream world.

[Qfwfq]

meanwhile you rolled your eyes at the last one. Pfff. You are in a dream world.

The problem is if I leave this thread believing it, I'm going to make monumental changes in my life, whatever they would be. This simply isn't enough proof for that sort of leap. (talking about the first photos/videos, not the NWO thing)

[cripple]

Finally some interesting news reported. Thanks.

[stuck]

woah

my money's on some kind of chinese military aircraft, maybe testing the ability to use chemical weapons?

hm, another theory is that it's a chinese commercial liner that sprung a fuel leak, giving that crazy contrail. this would be in line with the silence on the part of the chinese authorities, who wouldn't want to talk about one of their planes bursting into flames.

idk. i'm sure more will come out in a few days.

and i'm not gonna sit through the rant in the second video. sorry


A spokesman from the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) confirmed to ABC News that the matter is under investigation. He declined to disclose further details. A day after the sighting, however, an anonymous source told China Daily that authorities already discovered the identity of the UFO after an investigation but could not publically disclose the information because "there was a military connection." An official explanation is expected to be released on Friday, the source said.


abc story about chinese ufo (http://abcnews.go.com/International/ufo-china-closes-airport-prompts-investigation/story?id=11159531&page=2)

[foodeater]

It looks like a blimp or zeppelin (is there a difference?)

[Qfwfq]

Second of all, the object in the photos isn't even remotely close to what's in the video.

edit: I think it was a testing of some form of long-range, hydrogen fueled, remote controlled nuclear missile (or something), and maybe a jet ruptured and it was wasting fuel.

or something to that effect.

[Qfwfq]

like someone remarked in a youtube comment, you can see the rocket separating off from the primary tank at 00:32.

[qualia]

The CIA used to take UFO reports very seriously because they were great ways of knowing when USSR spy aircraft where spotted, and when their own experimental aircraft were seen. Plus it was a great cover, since few people took sightings seriously.

[socrateez]

I think its a rocket exhaust plume. The sun is very low on the horizon. This is perfect to light up the contrail from behind at high altitude. Also the transition noted at :32sec. I also noticed that the object traversed the left hand portion of the screen somewhat quicker than the later parts of the video. The plume appears to shrink in width as well. Is this due to angle of flight? Seems its headed up at a decent angle. The very bright spot looks like the rockets ive seen at night.
I saw a launch from California while in Phoenix. Very similar. The sun was setting and had slipped over the horizon. It was dark but light in the upper atmosphere from where I stood. Still light in Cali. The plume was huge and bright. It appeared to spiral but was distortion. The rocket had the same quality to it as this vid. The plume I saw was a bit rosier though. Atmospheric conditions coupled with distance. Anyway, it was cool to watch.

[cloudgaming]

the government never tells the truth. and that's all i'm gonna say

[Qlippoth]

UFO is the most apt word for these things.. Udentified. I can't click on the links from work, but I'm guessing.. yeah, I'm not sure what exact Flying Object this thing is.

This is why I really like shows like Alien Nation and District 9, they gloss past first contact and go to black market cat food trade and squirtgun salt-water russian roulette in alien ghettos.

[stuck]

the government never tells the truth. and that's all i'm gonna say

they do, it's just that nobody pays attention to the right things.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/national_security_strategy.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Strategy_of_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine

And, if you get your news from the daily show or fox news, you're basically shitting in your own brain. You have to read the business press- WSJ, financial times, etc. to hear things undiluted, passed between the masters' lips to the masters' ears.

[bootness]

Is it extraterrestrial? I can only hope.
But most likely Pepsi is just about to release a new flavor of soda pop.

[Qfwfq]

I think its a rocket exhaust plume. The sun is very low on the horizon. This is perfect to light up the contrail from behind at high altitude. Also the transition noted at :32sec. I also noticed that the object traversed the left hand portion of the screen somewhat quicker than the later parts of the video. The plume appears to shrink in width as well. Is this due to angle of flight? Seems its headed up at a decent angle. The very bright spot looks like the rockets ive seen at night.
I saw a launch from California while in Phoenix. Very similar. The sun was setting and had slipped over the horizon. It was dark but light in the upper atmosphere from where I stood. Still light in Cali. The plume was huge and bright. It appeared to spiral but was distortion. The rocket had the same quality to it as this vid. The plume I saw was a bit rosier though. Atmospheric conditions coupled with distance. Anyway, it was cool to watch.


but for a rocket launch this obviously seems like a rather odd way to exit the atmosphere at such an acute angle.

And that simply doesn't look like petroleum based rocket fuel either, regardless of your angle of observation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYz4if0W98&feature=related

The first separation doesn't usually happen until it actually leaves the atmosphere... or at least that's what I thought.
I still think it's a hydrogen fueled long-range nuke, with a shuttle launch design of having separation stages. wonder if we'll find out.

[Hermione]

Is it extraterrestrial? I can only hope.
But most likely Pepsi is just about to release a new flavor of soda pop.


Aliens always like grape best. When they stopped making grape Crush soda, they all left. They could be drinking Pepsi these days though.

[last_caress]

Is it extraterrestrial? I can only hope.
But most likely Pepsi is just about to release a new flavor of soda pop.

I was thinking interstellar adbot for the grand-opening of wal-mart on gliese 581d.

[Hermione]

Either way, the photos are kind of cool I guess. Not as good as a lunar eclipse, but still it's kind of rare.

[Ptah]

Aliens always like grape best. When they stopped making grape Crush soda, they all left. They could be drinking Pepsi these days though.

Right. Fuckin' greys took all the Pepsi Throwback back up with them.

Just one more thing on the list.

I kinda wish we'd have a First Contact event already. So I can get to settling a few scores with the lil bastards.

Starting with my childhood. Although recent evidence suggests its possible Michael Bay is to blame there instead.

Well, fuck 'em both anyhow.

Whatever. I want my Pepsi Throwback. Fly over Chicago you lil fucks... it'll be different this time....

[stuck]

I was thinking interstellar adbot for the grand-opening of wal-mart on gliese 581d.

I think Walmart's going nano these days. "This ain't your grandaddy's mitochondria!" (it actually IS his mitochondria, just hosted in an excess Chinese infant and sold to you at a tidy profit)

[Hermione]

Well I still think that first photo is way cool looking regardless of how it was done. I figured someone made it that way. But then why do we have to believe it happened in order to like the photo's. I don't do videos of anything unless it's a music video that it done well, or it's an actual film / movie. Clips. Can't stand to watch them. Those buggers will only show me their arrival in photos... stills. And bring back the grape Crush, too if you would.

[kendoiwan]

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93848?fp=1

[satesone]

project bluebeam....

first test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxA0Asq2YDg&feature=related

second: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2EnW7quAE&feature=fvw

[jon54321]

I believe the photos are long exposure shots of a helicopter with a spotlight. They are red herrings.

The video footage however is very intriguing. I have seen similar footage elsewhere.

1) Possible extraterrestial reptilian craft entering orbit/exiting wormhole/hyperspace jump.
2) Possible terrestrial military technology.

Both options fascinating, and the official explanation of a rocket being tested I find unconvincing.

[aphemix]

I believe the photos are long exposure shots of a helicopter with a spotlight. They are red herrings.clever guess, good job. Still, upon examining the pictures again, I think the long exposure would be plainly detectable in the movement of the trees, the movement of the electrical lines, and the movement of the light beams coming forth from the craft itself, did it indeed apply to the photos. I also think it is unreasonable to accredit something so elementary as long exposure for the great distinction between the length of a helicopter and the length of the craft in these pictures.

not to say the pictures are even legitimate, but your supposition alone does not work for me.

[jon54321]

If it was a windless day the trees/powerlines would be static. The helicopter movement with the spot-light would account for the light effect and the illusion of a long UFO.

[stuck]

here's a good article describing some possible rational explanations:

http://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/

[aphemix]

here's a good article describing some possible rational explanations:

http://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/shit, this article practically explains the whole thing. UFO debunked, I give up.

I'm still really surprised long exposure is responsible for the photos though, if it is, considering there is no motion blur on the light beams, and considering the trees in the photos seem to indicate there is wind, which would result in movement.

[stuck]

shit, this article practically explains the whole thing. UFO debunked, I give up.

I'm still really surprised long exposure is responsible for the photos though, if it is, considering there is no motion blur on the light beams, and considering the trees in the photos seem to indicate there is wind, which would result in movement.

If the light beam was circling, it'd have that striped look to it- at points, it'd be weaker because it's pointing away, while at other points, it's pointing towards.

The trees might be permanently blown one way or another.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/229911232_1b3e173c59.jpg

[Qfwfq]

So according to the article Stuck posted, the rocket observed in the first video Aphemix posted was the Progress M-06M spacecraft launched on June 30th to resupply the International Space Station. Socrateez' guess was closest to the mark.

I still find it odd that the rocket used to propel the spacecraft out of orbit took such a shallow trajectory and marked its initial separation before leaving the atmosphere. I'm not doubting this is what it was, I just didn't think shuttles were suppose to penetrate the atmosphere at that angle. Or maybe it already was outside the atmosphere.. that would probably make more sense. But even if it was... it still seems rather shallow.



The Soyuz-U rocket used to launch the Progress M-06M spacecraft was delivered to the Baikonur Cosmodrome in early March 2010.[1] The rocket was manufactured by TsSKB-Progress at Samara.

The Progress was launched successfully from the Baikonur Cosmodrome on 30 June 2010 at 15:35 UTC.[2] The cargo ship was loaded with 1,918 pounds of propellant, 110 pounds of oxygen and air, 220 pounds of water and 2,667 pounds of equipment, spare parts and experiment hardware.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Progress_M-06M.jpg/800px-Progress_M-06M.jpg

[jon54321]

I agree, I don't find the official rocket explanation convincing.

Given the photos are red herrings doesn't explain why the Chinese would close airspace. I believe this is linked with the blue spiral phenomena seen in australia & norway. The official explanation for these was also rockets despite the visuals being completely different.

[Neville]

So, Aphemix, what's your score on this shit? How many times have you ever been right?

[aphemix]

So, Aphemix, what's your score on this shit? How many times have you ever been right?huh? I was just posting some pretty pictures. Presenting them the same way news releases had presented them. I don't even fuckin' believe in aliens. What do you think I am, an asshole? I don't believe any news. Conspiracy news, nothing. The only thing I ever even suspect is that certain news being released serves certain purposes.

[Qfwfq]

I agree, I don't find the official rocket explanation convincing.

Given the photos are red herrings doesn't explain why the Chinese would close airspace. I believe this is linked with the blue spiral phenomena seen in australia & norway. The official explanation for these was also rockets despite the visuals being completely different.

The photos are fake and unrelated to the spacecraft launch in the video(which is real). It seems sensible that the Chinese would close airspace because of the latter.

[socrateez]

I wonder if it was a ICBM test. Did it actually leave the atmosphere? The angle of ascent, even if you account for viewing angles not 90 degrees to the observer, seems pretty shallow for a space shot. Could be wrong though.
Wouldnt it waste enormous amounts of fuel fighting gravity at a shallow angle vs straight up, or at least close to 90 degrees? The shuttle launches pretty vertical as does about every rocket ive seen...unless its aimed at something on the ground.

Here is a pic of the one I saw in Phoenix.
http://members.cox.net/starscopes/space_sky/20050922_rocket_launch_corkscrew_6305.jpg
And there is this one of the same launch. It appears the angle of ascent is pretty shallow so what do I know? lol
http://members.cox.net/starscopes/space_sky/20050922_rocket_launch_stage1_2_02.jpg
The same launch:
http://www.edpadgett.com/blog/uploaded_images/rocket-742730.jpg
This one is a minute man III:
http://www.spacearchive.info/2006-06-14-lockett-minuteman.jpg

[jon54321]

If I remember correctly the chinese did say this was related to military technology, so yes I think a domestic missile test rather than a space rocket is a good explanation.

The rocket test seems to be used as a catch all however (the new weather balloon?). And what about those blue spirals? .. The truth is out there.. fade to x-files theme..