Did Einstein plagiarise the work he presented?

[Swift]

Given Einstein's peculiar life, his mediocre results at school, his failure to get a job at a proper university, his job as a patent clerk which allowed him access to vast amounts of other peoples work, and his secretive life when arriving at Princeton which allowed him to live in luxery without producing any more work - the obvious question can be asked:

Did Einstein plagiarise the work he presented?

Several articles below provide clues to a case of plagiarism. The first link points to a book by Christopher Jon Bjerknes, who states that the famous E = MC2 equation was published by someone else several years before Einstein:

"The equation can be attributed to S. Tolver Preston (1875), to Jules Henri Poincaré (1900; according to Brown, 1967) and to Olinto De Pretto (1904) before Einstein." Albert Einstein, Unmaking the Myth, Vol. I, The Special Theory of Relativity, By Christopher Jon Bjerknes, 2001.

http://allais.maurice.free.fr/English/Einstein1.htm
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Science/Doc-Science-Relativity&Einstein/BjerknesOnTheEinsteinMyth.htm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/

Swift

[Hypnos]

E = mc^2 is very easy to derive from the Lorentz transformations, which were themselves developed several years prior to Einstein. Einstein gave them physical meaning, and he was proven right first by the Michelson-Morley experiment, then by all the physics leading up to the atom bomb.

Let us not forget Einstein's other brilliant contributions, which would contervail any question of his talent and passion:

* model for the photoelectric effect based on quantization of light (awarded Nobel prize)

* Brownian motion

* boson statistics (Bose-Einstein distribution/condensation, laser amplification; collaborated with Satyendra Nath Bose in Calcutta)

* general relativity as the _correct_ model of gravitation (collaborating/competing with numerous physicists and geometers)

[MacGuffin]

Well Einstein was a jew, so, you know...

[flan2dave]

Maybe you have a better shot at Maxwell.

[Avengardh]

He worked at the same table as his wife....she was also good at physics...by her own accounts.

Most likely they discovered lots of things together, etc, etc.

Such is life.

[mgb]

Well Einstein was a jew, so, you know...

Those tricky bastards. Probably got some black person to do all the work or just stole all the honest hard work of some poor blonde-haired blue-eyed German.

[Hypnos]

Those tricky bastards. Probably got some black person to do all the work or just stole all the honest hard work of some poor blonde-haired blue-eyed German.
No shit. White man gotta work, while they count their pennies and dance the hava nagila.

I, an Aryan man-god, am outraged.

[Swift]

Funny.

[euterpenc]

He thought of them himself, I'm pretty sure. References to other material are to be expected, you have to start somewhere.

If he plagiarised then he would not have gotten as far as he did. When asked to describe his ideas he would not have been able to explain, but he did, he was also the first to do what he did. Others may have tried and fallen short previously, but he succeeded.

[MacGuffin]

Those tricky bastards. Probably got some black person to do all the work or just stole all the honest hard work of some poor blonde-haired blue-eyed German.
Exactly. I bet he got those black soldiers to rape those poor, innocent Aryans (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4030), in retaliation for the Holocaust, which really wasn't that big of a deal anyway.

[mgb]

Exactly. I bet he got those black soldiers to rape those poor, innocent Aryans (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4030), in retaliation for the Holocaust, which really wasn't that big of a deal anyway.

How long are we going to have to put up with Zionist conspiracy after Zionist conspiracy? Ridiculous.

I bet Einstein couldn't even read. He obviously wasn't an "Authentic European" like Maurice Allais (from the only working link of all three sources).

[Swift]

I bet Einstein couldn't even read. He obviously wasn't an "Authentic European" like Maurice Allais (from the only working link of all three sources).Oops. Here are the links again:

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Science/Doc-Science-Relativity&Einstein/BjerknesOnTheEinsteinMyth.htm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/

[Combat]

That birdman dude seems like a wonderful guy.
From his site: "Antisemitism is a disease. You catch it from Jews"; "the Internet's premier website of Actonite Libertarianism and White Liberation".

I like the conclusion they made in the article in The Register:
"it cannot be proved that Einstein could not have copied from Hilbert." 8O

[Swift]

Shit. I should have read the entire websites before posting them.

[mgb]

That birdman dude seems like a wonderful guy.
From his site: "Antisemitism is a disease. You catch it from Jews"; "the Internet's premier website of Actonite Libertarianism and White Liberation".

I like the conclusion they made in the article in The Register:
"it cannot be proved that Einstein could not have copied from Hilbert." 8O

You stopped at the frontpage. Shit, read on about the Birdman, it gets better.

Blacks have never had a civilization (the ancient Egyptians were not black -- check the bust of Queen Nefertiti, for example), and have never been able to sustain one, even when handed to them on a silver platter, as happened during the recent European colonial period in Africa. All this of course does not mean that other races are incapable of building or sustaining a Western-like civilization; but it does suggest that the civilization-building potential of Asians may be more limited than that of whites, and that the potential of the darker races, which have rarely if ever built civilizations or even sustained those built for them by whites, may well be severely limited.

Brilliant. And if you want, he has a plethora of books (http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Books/Books-Booklist.html#Intro)you can purchase.


The Birdman himself:

http://www.thebirdman.org/JBryant2.jpg



Swift, maybe you should leave those links broken.

[cjs55]

Well that last part concering africans is to my knowledge factually true (although if someone would like to correct me I'd love to be corrected).

But the part about asians is certainly wrong.

About Einstein: Who cares?

[Hypnos]

I agree that it is factually true; but correlation is not causation. Guns, Germs and Steel explores the question.

[CENTIPEDE HEAD]

I am currently reading Guns Germs and Steel. It does offer some very good theories to answer these types of questions. But as for these links and the accusations against Einstein; It's just pure anti-semitic flapdoodle. And to suggest that Einstein wasn't totally original in his work doesn't invalidate his contributions by any means. That's what research involves. For example, Einstein didn't invent quantum theory (Max Planck did) but his development of the theory and new application of it won him the Nobel prize.

[Aryan]

Who's Einstein?
Never heard of him !

*looks across the street at the Woman in red dress*