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Serotonin
17 May 2005, 08:07 AM
It's been about three weeks now since I've handed my honours thesis in. I was still posting on here in the days leading up to handing it in due to my monumental inclination for distraction. So much so that I didn't hand it in on time, instead handing it in 2 days late, incurring a penalty of 1% on my final mark (lenient!). I've wanted to write a spiel on it, basically for fodder for talking about how an INTP deals with the real world and real people, or at least the politics of academia. Naturally I didn't post something straight away on it since after weeks of writing on the same-old same-old topic, I was mightily drained (as you can expect) and wanted to do nothing but sleep, and possibly, in the next few days, drink copious amounts of beer. Which I did :)
In the 3-4 weeks leading up to the due date I was in a 48 hour cycle. I'd work all day, evening and throughout the night on a draft, finish, send it to my supervisor, go home in the morning and sleep all day, get up for 2 hours or so to have dinner and watch TV, then sleep all night, get up in the morning and start the cycle again.
This wasn't enough. My supervisors (both INTJ) had major issues with each draft, and the final product looked a lot different to how I would have done it with minimal help. But INTJs know the game, and they are willing to play it, and since my mark reflects on them, they wanted to get the best possible piece of work (in their eyes) out of me. Every rebellious bone in my body bristled, but I wanted this degree, so I put up with it and changed what they told me to change.
On the day before it was due, it became apparent that I had not done the best statistical test on my data. Instead of straight regression, I needed to do a 2-way ANOVA. My supervisors strongly advised that they wanted me to postpone handing it in, otherwise I'd get a shitty mark. That hurt, because a celebratory pub session with the other honours students in my cohort was scheduled at the local about five minutes after the due time for handing the thesis in. As you'd expect (since I was the only "P" in the group), everyone of that cohort handed it in on time, except for me. Tuesday 4:05 p.m. They're drinking to freedom, I'm still writing. Ouch. I did the ANOVA, changed my results, acted like a good little SJ and ended up handing it in at 3:50 on the Thursday afternoon. At that point I had stopped caring about the mark I had lost.

Stats

Nights spent sleeping in student office in last week before handing in (Saturday-Wednesday night): 5
Sets of clothes: 2
Showers: 3
Oporto meals: 3
Doner kebab meals: 2
Meat pie meals: 2
Healthy meals: 0
Vs (like red bull but tastes better) drunk: about 10
Strong lattes drunk: about 5
Moments of anxiety: too many to count
Moments where I broke down crying: 2
Callous criticisms by supervisors over tardiness: 7-8
% of time in office over 5 days spent sleeping: About 10-15%
Thesis length: 12 203 words (sans appendices), 65 pages (with appendices and references) plus about 15 diagrams.
Uninterrupted sleep portion post-handin on Thursday afternoon/night/Friday morning: 14 hours
Volume of beer consumed on Friday night: 2 litres

So yay, I'll be graduating in November with a BSc (hons) in bioinformatics. Now to join the welfare queue...

cathmc
17 May 2005, 08:34 AM
Congrats!
In college and grad school I always did my best writing between 10pm and 2am. I finally learned while working on my master's thesis not to try to force myself to write at 3pm or something. I might re-read some articles or something to get my brain going, but only tried to write when in a good writing mood.
I also learned in grad school that usually when I had written something and I thought it was crap, that meant I would get an A- instead of an A. So I ended up turning in a Master's Thesis which I thought was crap, b/c I was tired of it, and ran out of motivation to make it less crappy. My grade on the thesis? A-.
Nobody will ever know about your lost mark, and you've already stopped caring about it, right? I'd say you made the right call.

waxwing
17 May 2005, 05:22 PM
Wow, you must be relieved. Way to represent the P population and hand in your thesis. Can you elaborate on your major or your specific area of interest a little bit?

kuranes
17 May 2005, 06:16 PM
Congratulations!

SensEye
17 May 2005, 09:27 PM
Congrats, however, 2 litres of beer (that's about six bottles for our American friends) does not qualify as copious quantities. You can do better!

2hype
17 May 2005, 09:51 PM
Congratulations!

Combat
17 May 2005, 10:30 PM
Good work!
Your story confirms that the last 10% of the work takes 90% of the effort. Seems like it always work like that.

Serotonin
18 May 2005, 02:41 AM
Wow, you must be relieved. Way to represent the P population and hand in your thesis. Can you elaborate on your major or your specific area of interest a little bit?

The course didn't have a major, you just had to fill certain quotas in credit points from certain faculties. That said, in third year I inclined towards genetics, artificial intelligence, and applied maths. My thesis was on a computer model of honeybee foraging and the advantage incurred by the dance language in different simulated forage distributions.

And thanks, assorted congratulating people. cathmc what's your degree?

Hypnos
18 May 2005, 05:49 AM
Good work. Where's the link to the PDF of your thesis?

Serotonin
18 May 2005, 06:08 AM
Good work. Where's the link to the PDF of your thesis?

I'd rather take PM requests. Besides, I haven't compiled it into a PDF yet. Good idea though, I'll do that soon.

philonightmare
18 May 2005, 06:31 AM
Congratulations. That's one thing off your chest! I would like to read your thesis as well. The topic sounds interesting. :)

cathmc
20 May 2005, 08:14 AM
And thanks, assorted congratulating people. cathmc what's your degree?
Couldn't be much more different than yours! I am in the apparent minority group of non-scientific INTPs...
Master's Degree in International Communication
Bachelor's Degree in Comparative Literature.
(Although my undergrad minor was in Computer Science. I was the only humanities person in the room by the time I got to the most advanced classes I had to take. I did see a certain parallel between learning languages and learning computer languages, though computer languages are of course less forgiving of grammar and syntax errors!)

Serotonin
20 May 2005, 08:39 AM
Couldn't be much more different than yours! I am in the apparent minority group of non-scientific INTPs...
Master's Degree in International Communication
Bachelor's Degree in Comparative Literature.
(Although my undergrad minor was in Computer Science. I was the only humanities person in the room by the time I got to the most advanced classes I had to take. I did see a certain parallel between learning languages and learning computer languages, though computer languages are of course less forgiving of grammar and syntax errors!)

Sounds interesting. Especially the Comparitive Literature. My favorite genre is the "hyper-realistic" e.g. Franzen, De Lillo, Zadie Smith. I was really pleased you knew about (read?) Tom Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow (from an earlier post). It's a stunner of a novel.

cathmc
20 May 2005, 11:43 AM
I have to confess I have not actually read Gravity's Rainbow - it's on the 'to-read' list but haven't gotten around to it. (I actually went and found my post about it to make sure I didn't blatantly and falsely claim to have read it! I recommended it based on what others have said about it...which is also why it's on my list!)
Started on Pynchon with the MUCH shorter 'crying of lot 49' which I really liked. Around the same time read DeLillo's 'White Noise'. Haven't heard of Franzen or Z. Smith. (Funny side note - I jumped to Amazon while writing this post b/c I couldn't remember the number of the lot in the title...and they have a special where if you buy 'Crying of Lot 49' and 'White Noise' together you get a discount...)
In my Comp Lit program I read a little of everything but focused most on contemporary Latin American stuff. Borges, Garcia Marquez, etc. Magical realism as opposed to hyper-realism. Still love that stuff. I bet you would like Borges actually.