My boss hated INTP girls

[timberkat]

After hiring me, my old boss hired another girl who I felt I could relate to. When I asked her about MBTI, she said that she thought she got INTP. Wow, I thought, another INTP girl! She was spacey, stubborn, a little aloof, and very genuine. The thing is, my boss grew to hate her even though she worked harder than his favorite girls. He constantly asked her if she was on drugs, called her stupid because she was a little spacey sometimes, and criticized everything about her to the other girls.

After getting in a big fight over some minor thing he wouldn't get the others girls in trouble over, he fired her. Now it was my turn. He made me scrub things that no one else had to, told me my mind was somewhere else, and questioned my every action. After a while, he told me to go be a teacher or professor (very nicely) and that he didn't trust me to work at his business. Hmmm. Because I "thought too much." Really?

What type could he be? He's very detail-oriented, and expected us to memorized a dozen details to be performed (some of which he would make up as he went). He expected us to really BE in the moment, and when we didn't stand up to him, he'd label us as weak. He collected art, and considered himself an artist but was shy about showing his art. He always threw parties in the place, but after a while would retreat to the back without a word, and go on his laptop for hours. I am almost sure he was a sensor and a feeler (because he was very irrational and fly into a rage sometimes, breaking things in his wake). But I am not sure about the rest. He was very disorganized with his business, and would always change procedures on how to do things. He never wrote anything down, and there were no concrete rules-- we suspected that it made it easier to control us, because then we could never point to the list of rules and say "see?"

What type could he be? :mellow:

[MacGuffin]

ESTJ

[timberkat]

ESTJ

Ughhh, really? Maybe you're right. I love ENTJs, but if this is how ESTJs typically are... I might keep my distance.

[Works]

What business was this?

[Ptah]

Type ASSHOLE.

[Chunes]

Reminds me of my father, an xSTJ. F doesn't always mean irrational, nor does it mean rage. F can also instill a neurotic desire to get along. SJ ways of doing things probably universally seem irrational to INTPs.

[timberkat]

Reminds me of my father, an xSTJ. F doesn't always mean irrational, nor does it mean rage. F can also instill a neurotic desire to get along. SJ ways of doing things probably universally seem irrational to INTPs.

Yeah, I see what you are saying. It actually makes sense when I remember that he was unmedicated for his psychiatric condition.

[Sloth]

It may have more to do with the fact that INTP women break female stereotypes and therefore seem "stupid" to certain types of men because they are probably having the unconscious thought: "how stupid can this girl be that she hasn't picked up that she's supposed to behave completely differently?"

I've experienced similar in some work I've done. Some men that consider themselves "traditional" are actually sexist and almost impossible for me to deal with because my ideas aren't taken seriously. I worked on an internship for over 6 months where I was one of the only females. My ideas were consistently better than everyone else's (I say this because even though we would never go with my ideas at first, in the end it was my ideas that we ended up going with, and of course by that point so much time has passed that no one remembered that I was the one who came up with it. Some extrovert would undoubtedly take credit behind my back).

It was very frustrating. I don't work in that industry anymore, it was politics and the internship was a campaign. I work on films now, and people are much more receptive to my oddness. I feel your pain sister.

Edit: Just realized it's been forever since anyone posted on this thread. I hope whoever posted this can take something from what I said anyway. Shrug.

[vulcans-never-bluff]

I would say ESTJ.

My father is an ISTJ. He is EXTREMELY detail oriented. He tends to be small-minded on issues once he makes up his mind which drives me quite batty. I've never felt our differences stemmed from me being independent however.

My mother is an ENTJ, and he finds it attractive that she's smart and independent. Most ISTJs that I know (my family is overrun with ENTJs and ISTJs) also cherish these same traits. They're easy to please if you adhere to the details and follow protocol. Most ISTJs enjoy intelligence and independence, as along as it doesn't affect their routines or appear too wasteful or radical.

My aunt who is an ESTJ sounds like the description of your boss. She finds that women should be materialistic and constantly outgoing. She does not understand that not every woman wants to please her husband, or doesn't want to host parties like a Stepford wife. She's overly status conscious and has a strict view on how things should be done. She's not a fan of independence whatsoever. Out of all the types that I've been exposed to, she's the one that gets under my skin like no other.