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Shai Gar
23 Jun 2005, 06:46 AM
okay here is the idea, peel back the skin and flesh, and spray the bones with a calcium spray and then sew it back up. and then put the body into a POP mould to keep it in a good posture.

or this one, if the backbone has already been fused, an anesthetic sprayed onto the top of the spinal cord to stop it working for a bit anyway, and then spray the bones with something that disolves whatever was used to fuse the bones, and then replace all the bones with titanium, rubber coated, or something to make it work like normal, and then spray in some of those cells that come from aborted fetuses and form any type of cell. just in case you damaged the spinal cord.

bmw318tiChic
23 Jun 2005, 06:47 AM
I like your idea.

Shai Gar
23 Jun 2005, 06:58 AM
i like you

bmw318tiChic
23 Jun 2005, 07:03 AM
<3

meshou
23 Jun 2005, 09:07 AM
It's a good idea. Except there's no spray like that in existance, and they aren't chemically possible right now (or possibly ever), and for a (usually) minor back problem, you are proposing majorly invasive usually reserve for people with disabling problems, simply because where you are cutting has the possibility of crippling or killing the paitent.

So yes, aside from not being realistic on any level, it's great.

abathur
23 Jun 2005, 09:23 AM
Not to mention the practicality of removing the spinal column and replacing it with titanium discs with nerves branching out to everywhere from there.

Shai Gar
23 Jun 2005, 10:00 AM
It's a good idea. Except there's no spray like that in existance, and they aren't chemically possible right now (or possibly ever), and for a (usually) minor back problem, you are proposing majorly invasive usually reserve for people with disabling problems, simply because where you are cutting has the possibility of crippling or killing the paitent.

So yes, aside from not being realistic on any level, it's great.
yes, there are no such sprays in existance yet, however 5 years ago there was no spray on skin either, and yet an australia burns doctor created one within the last 3 years and now it is used all the time.

look beyond the now. everything is possible, the only things stepping in the way are the details.

abathur - good points, but i am sure they could be incorporated somehow

meshou
23 Jun 2005, 10:29 AM
yes, there are no such sprays in existance yet, however 5 years ago there was no spray on skin either, and yet an australia burns doctor created one within the last 3 years and now it is used all the time.

look beyond the now. everything is possible, the only things stepping in the way are the details.

abathur - good points, but i am sure they could be incorporated somehow
Chemically, a spray would not work like the structure of a bone. Period. The resulting product would be brittle. You can't make a spray that would make a uniform porous product. And when you propose a tool less precise than a chisel (the preferred tool of orthopedists everywhere), you know you're getting into Bad Idea territory.

There's a reason they use coral or existing bone, even over metal. It's light, it's porous. It'a made to break rather than damage tissue around it. Evolution-wise, bone got it right.

Chemical composition and structure are not details, they're what make this idea good or stupid. You've got neither on your side.

I will not look beyond now into the daft. Talk to me when you're thinking about generating plastic or bone replicas in test tubes.

Hexchild
23 Jun 2005, 10:38 AM
yes, there are no such sprays in existance yet, however 5 years ago there was no spray on skin either, and yet an australia burns doctor created one within the last 3 years and now it is used all the time.

look beyond the now. everything is possible, the only things stepping in the way are the details.

abathur - good points, but i am sure they could be incorporated somehow

You're thinking like an INTP. Leave it to the NTJs to figure out the details. Works for me. :D

Anyway, wouldn't it be less risky to genetically construct a virus that enters the body, performs alchemy on the bones and then dies out from lack of calcium?


Until the virus mutates, that is, and starts turning your muscles into platinum.

Dman
23 Jun 2005, 05:37 PM
Better idea - remove brain of person with bad back, and transplant it into healthy, good looking body of recently deceased person. Voila! Problem solved. NTJ's can figure out the details of how to do it.

booyalab
23 Jun 2005, 05:43 PM
I have mild scoliosis and you people should all die.
touch MY spine, will ya? :rant:

bmw318tiChic
23 Jun 2005, 05:49 PM
I have mild scoliosis and you people should all die.
touch MY spine, will ya? :rant:


Yeah, I had scoliosis too. My lower curve was 45 degrees and upper was approximately 33 degrees. I've had two surgeries to fix it, and now I have rods and screws up and down my entire spine. The discs in between the vertebrae were taken out, and that space was filled in with bone (1st surgery bone from one of my ribs, 2nd surgery bone from cadavers), so now my spine has fused into one bone and even if the rods were taken out, I still could not bend. I hate scoliosis.. if it were possible at all for this spray stuff to work, it would be fantastic.

Dman
24 Jun 2005, 06:22 PM
I have it mildly as well, and it only bothered me when I was in my late teens and working in a warehouse lifting heavy stuff. My Dr. told me to work out regularly, which I now do, and it never bothers me anymore. Plus I look pretty damn good in a bathing suit, if I should say so myself.

So hit the gym, it helps (especially work the abs). Don’t do military press though (pressing the barbell above your head while standing up), that may aggravate it.

Hexchild
25 Jun 2005, 10:13 PM
Are we perhaps beginning to see a trend that hints at a possible correlation between INTPCentral forum members and victims of scoliosis? Just thinking aloud...

To add some variation to the statistics let me just state that afaik I've never had such problems.

fairgeek
26 Jun 2005, 04:41 PM
I have slight scoliosis. Mainly in my neck (21 deg.). I think it is from all these years bent over a keyboard even though I am physically active.