Making money in the short term without bowing down to the man

[garak]

.. an offshoot from my stock thread and SIL's affiliate marketing thread.

The stock thing seems like a crapshot and just not that great of an idea. I can't really conjur up the will to be interested in the market, and everyone says that short-term gain is the hardest/riskiest thing... well, that's the thing I'm after.

So after the whole insurance ticket ordeal I'm not only broke but possibly $1000 more in debt (I might be able to get off still .. gonna try monday [update: got out of it]). I do still have a few hundred in cash left, and about 400-500 on my credit card. Some more cash coming but not a TON. I wish someone would buy my truck.

Anyways the point I'm getting to is that last night I was just thinking thinking thinking about what I could do for money. There HAS to be something. Look at our world with billions of people and trillions of potential dollars to be had and I can't come up with a measly couple thousand or so? So one idea led to another and I came to the drug peddling option but just don't want to deal with people that much and the illegal aspect is annoying, but that led me to doing something very similar on ebay -- buy many items in bulk for a low amount per item, then sell them individually for more. I got to searching and found something that I can get for less than $2 each and sells generally for between $5-10. It also sells pretty well -- that's another important thing. It doesn't matter how much profit you make per item if you have a hard time getting anyone to buy.

I won't say what it is because it's extremely specific and there's only one such auction and I am still waffling about buying, but I can say that it's nothing really special. Turn $95 into $250-500 -- it seems like a no-brainer. But yet I hesitate. I think I'm gonna do it though.

Anyone else make any money on ebay using similar tactics? Any other money making ideas?

p.s. I think it would be cool to have a money/finances/etc forum

[Hustler]

Do you have any acquaintances you're willing to con out of money? You could get them to "invest" in an ebay scheme and then simply keep the money. I mean, there are hundreds of scams you can run on people who trust you even just a little.

[garak]

next

[PenguinHunter]

One of my friends and I were thinking of buying a whole pile of NHL jerseys which are super low cost right now (or at least were, you can probably still get in on the market) and then sell them later when the hockey season comes back next year. That would be converting about 30-45 dollars to about 80-100 dollars. But you would have to wait a few months for returns and if the team you bulk buy from changes their logo (unlikely but not impossible) you're fucked. You could try for a spread of a lot of teams but that would cost a bit more. I don't know why we never did it... lazy i guess.

[Shai Gar]

and of course the initial costs

[PenguinHunter]

yeah true but it's tough to make much money quickly when you start with pennies... I figured this was not such an unreasonable middle-ground sort of enterprise. Even if he just bought twenty he could end up making enough to cover his ticket and buy 1600 gumballs.

[garak]

Went for it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51103&item=5210314506&rd=1

Yep, little pieces of plastic. Bought for $2 each and sell for $5-10 each, so a $3-8 profit each, so anywhere between $150 and $400 profit... in theory! We'll see how this goes!

[Shai Gar]

hopefully this helps to pay the car thing

[Hexchild]

Any other money making ideas?

Get a few Smooth Playahs and a few INTP together and have them work on a dating manual for INTPs. If it sells at a reasonable price, contains things that are doable for INTP and can actually be shown to work, it should sell like crazy.

[Swift]

Get a few Smooth Playahs and a few INTP together and have them work on a dating manual for INTPs. If it sells at a reasonable price, contains things that are doable for INTP and can actually be shown to work, it should sell like crazy.Another dust-gathering book...

[kuranes]

Register with some focus groups. Some are much more flexible than others. They want "consumer reaction" on proposed ads and website "ease of navigation" etc. Sometimes you have to pose as country squire carriage trade types. "Which style of Mercedes do you prefer?" kind of thing. I've got two lined up next week that will pay $350 for a couple hours "work". They usually feed you too. Once I went to a "mock jury" through the same outfit. Most do not want people who pretend to be the right consumer, but some do. Some want it but can't come right out and say so. The salesperson will work with you as you reach for answers to the qualifying survey.

[garak]

Register with some focus groups. Some are much more flexible than others. They want "consumer reaction" on proposed ads and website "ease of navigation" etc. Sometimes you have to pose as country squire carriage trade types. "Which style of Mercedes do you prefer?" kind of thing. I've got two lined up next week that will pay $350 for a couple hours "work". They usually feed you too. Once I went to a "mock jury" through the same outfit. Most do not want people who pretend to be the right consumer, but some do. Some want it but can't come right out and say so. The salesperson will work with you as you reach for answers to the qualifying survey.
How/where do you get into that?

[Hexchild]

Another dust-gathering book...

As long as it sells, that's not the point :)

[tragula]

I hope shipping doesn't evaporate too much of the profits. Good luck!

[CoHo]

Continuing with the ebay idea

Do you have any friend, or friend of a friend that works in a pawn/antique/used store and don't have an ebay account? Older people especially.

You could offer to put up a bunch of their stuff on ebay. You don't have the buy the product and it wouldn't matter if it doesn't sell. You could put a few thousand of their products on ebay, all you would do is ask for a minimal charge (a few dollars from each sale for your time).

Also, you could make a small business doing this for people. Make up a flyer and hand it out to antique stores. Basically you offer to put their stuff on ebay for no charge unless the item sells.

[garak]

I hope shipping doesn't evaporate too much of the profits. Good luck!
Nah, I figured that into the equation of course.

[garak]

Continuing with the ebay idea

Do you have any friend, or friend of a friend that works in a pawn/antique/used store and don't have an ebay account? Older people especially.

You could offer to put up a bunch of their stuff on ebay. You don't have the buy the product and it wouldn't matter if it doesn't sell. You could put a few thousand of their products on ebay, all you would do is ask for a minimal charge (a few dollars from each sale for your time).

Also, you could make a small business doing this for people. Make up a flyer and hand it out to antique stores. Basically you offer to put their stuff on ebay for no charge unless the item sells.
Hm, no, I don't, and I've heard similar ideas before and they just don't really appeal to me. Dealing with people and all that. Just doing some auctions and shipping things out seems like a lot less BS to deal with. (and more sustainable)

[Claverhouse]

Do you have any acquaintances you're willing to con out of money? You could get them to "invest" in an ebay scheme and then simply keep the money. I mean, there are hundreds of scams you can run on people who trust you even just a little.
:rofl::rofl::sobs:happppy:rofl:


You're good.


Claverhouse :ph34r:


[ So good, I'm gonna set the police (http://www.grid-girls.co.uk/Silverstone_BSB04/Virgin/index.htm) on you... ]

[garak]

SPREADSHEETS RULE! :shock: 8O

eat my formulas (http://incise.org/images/screenshots/2005-06-27-060255.png)

Another one I'm proud of:


=min(F3,25)*0.0525+max(F3-25,0)*0.0275+max(F3-1000,0)*0.015


Which is for calculating the "final value fee" (http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html) for an item from its price.

[PenguinHunter]

sweet! now you just need to move to a country where you can live off of four dollars a day. Maybe you can get some reverse-sponsorship action going where a Cambodian family saves a poor American boy. I guess you need internet access to though.... hmmm

[garak]

Well that's only for this month, where I've been selling some old stuff of mine. I haven't started the "real" ebay selling yet.

[illi]

GAHAHA

This is what the smaller people learn on such sites as Neopets, Subeta etc.

Oh dear

*slinks of, while coughing up a lung*

[garak]

Huh?

[Dman]

Just to clarify, are you looking for something sustainable, i.e. to make a living at, or just a quick couple thousand?

The ebay thing sounds pretty cool.

Also, do you have good credit that you can use to leverage any investments? As you are probably aware, many investments that can provide returns in the thousands take larger initial investments. If you have good credit and a high threshold for risk, you can always borrow the money at a low rate to finance any investment you choose to pursue. That way if you found something you could sell on ebay that has a similar high turnover and profit margin but at a higher price per unit, more moolah for you.

As for the truck, my experience has been that the newspaper classifieds suck, but if you have an “auto trader” magazine in your area (I’m assuming they are national) they can put it on the web and the magazine until it sells – has worked well for me in the past.

[kuranes]

I've found the Focus groups that are near me through Google, I think, a long time ago. I am now in their DB's, and so they call me from time to time. Most do not want "professional focus group attendees" and so "being in their data base" has disadvantages. You cannot pose as a wealthy Cadillac owner if you have just posed as a working class victim of crime, or grunge fan. Plus they don't want to use the same people too many times even if they needed a wealthy Cadillac owner again right away. It's a good idea to approve whatever bullshit is being proposed as an ad too, if you expect to be part of a "regulars" crew. Finding a focus group that will coach you through performances, where your pretence is known to them ( but not their clients ) is more difficult. Obviously THESE type will not shitcan you for being too readily available either. Sometimes you get paid just for being an alternate, rather than an actual focus group participant. So you're essentially paid $75 to $100 for a half hour of sitting in the sandwich room in case someone stands them up, and doesn't show. If there are no holes to fill, you walk out paid just as the focus group gets started under full attendance. By the way, its always cash. This one I'm going to tomorrow night will be a command performance, where I pose as a big shot investor. I did some reading on hedge funds yesterday. Plus my INTP research interests that already existed will be used, as I talk about companies that I probably WOULD have invested in if I actually HAD the money. I read Red Herring and Fortune/Forbes all the time anyway. My story will be that I have a friend place the orders for me, as I do not actually know how to do this IRL. Tonight I will have to surf to Ameritrade and Etrade etc. just to get some idea how they work, so as not to be obviously out of place. $200 for this one. I will probably be rather "shy and retiring" at this one, so as not to get caught up in arcana related to p/e ratios etc. I'm hoping to swing discussion away from daytrader website navigation into arcana I am more familiar with, and that the real investors will want to talk about, perhaps. The moderator will attempt to prevent me from hijacking things, and so I may not be called upon to speak frequently.

[garak]

Just to clarify, are you looking for something sustainable, i.e. to make a living at, or just a quick couple thousand?
Both, really. (if I can do the latter then that implies that I can do the former, and if I can, why not just keep going with it?)


Also, do you have good credit that you can use to leverage any investments?
Nope, I have very little credit. Just one $1500 credit card that I've had for like 5 months, and a couple student loans. I can't remember the minimum generally "accepted" number (600 or 700 or something like that), but whatever it is I'm a bit below it.

[garak]

I just realized that there are places on the internets to buy stuff from people for sometimes a lot cheaper than on ebay. I could turn around and ebay the stuff for a profit. I do need to get some more cash reserves though, because generally the more expensive stuff is what gets desperately sold at low prices. I mean like hundreds of dollars profit on a single item, but even if I bought something for 350 and then sold it for 400, that's 50 bucks for not very much work. Compare the amount of money made, time spent, and shittiness/non-shittiness of the work, and this starts to seem like a really great alternative to a "real" job.

[SensEye]

It's a plausible strategy. But don't try too much too soon. See how your initial foray goes. I'm a little skeptical you can find a market for your Intel brackets. It could be the reason people are selling items "below market value" is because they are having a hard time finding a buyer. Of course, they could also simply be uninformed, which is what you are hoping. I know that is the strategy of the people who go 'garage sale-ing' for junk to sell on ebay.

[indie]

I have had this idea floating for awhile, to start something like a business-plan or resume writing service. I suppose it might work, given my excellent writing skills and educational credentials and all. . . but I always seem to come to a dead end when it comes to certain aspects (getting a website running, for example, setting up a payment method and creating a "trustworthy" site). Need to think more about it, I suppose. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, ideally, consulting-type work would be the best. Sure, there's potential risk, but there is also great reward. . . in freedom, eh?

[garak]

I'm a little skeptical you can find a market for your Intel brackets. It could be the reason people are selling items "below market value" is because they are having a hard time finding a buyer. Of course, they could also simply be uninformed, which is what you are hoping. I know that is the strategy of the people who go 'garage sale-ing' for junk to sell on ebay.
I figure they just don't want to deal with mailing out 50 individual things. These things are still selling on ebay consistently for $8 shipped. Should cost 1.60 to ship them, so $6.40 made on each. If I can get that then I'll turn $95 into $315. That gives me plenty of wiggle room while still making money. I'm not sure I'll do things like this again though -- it seems like higher-dollar single items can get me more money for less work.

[Nighthawk]

I have had this idea floating for awhile, to start something like a business-plan or resume writing service. I suppose it might work, given my excellent writing skills and educational credentials and all. . . but I always seem to come to a dead end when it comes to certain aspects (getting a website running, for example, setting up a payment method and creating a "trustworthy" site). Need to think more about it, I suppose. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, ideally, consulting-type work would be the best. Sure, there's potential risk, but there is also great reward. . . in freedom, eh?My wife and I both do consulting work on the side ... her in medical-legal and me in software/websites. It is enjoyable being your own boss, but some of the customers can be royal pains in the ass. Clueless, demanding, and in control of the money. Worse than any boss I've had.

It's been a nice supplemental income for us, but never enough to take the place of our regular jobs. The brick wall both of us run into, is that there is only one of us to do the actual consulting work ... and therefore, only a finite amount of work we can do, ergo profit we can generate. This led me to the conclusion that the only way to increase the work/profit, is to employ other people to do some of the work. Of course, I loathe doing so. Managing other people is something I dislike intensely. My wife has given it a shot, but quickly reached a point where she was doing more quality control and people things than the actual consulting work she enjoyed. Moreover, she was burned a few times when contract employees did sub-standard work or made bad choices that cost her business substantial money. It ended up being about 25% more profit for 50% more administrative overhead in one business venture ... and a net loss so far in a second venture. She is playing cop and inspector most of the time, rather than doing consulting work.

Of course, finding the right employees would be the magical answer. Once again, something that is not exactly my forte. Perhaps we should concentrate on finding a skilled NF people person to find our employees for us. Consulting does have some nice tax breaks that we enjoy however, so we might just stick with it.

So ... from my experience, there is a consultancy profit ceiling if you go it alone. However, unless you like mundane, repetitive administrative overhead and jacking around with people problems ... it is not easy to raise that ceiling.

[SensEye]

I figure they just don't want to deal with mailing out 50 individual things. These things are still selling on ebay consistently for $8 shipped. Should cost 1.60 to ship them, so $6.40 made on each. If I can get that then I'll turn $95 into $315. That gives me plenty of wiggle room while still making money. I'm not sure I'll do things like this again though -- it seems like higher-dollar single items can get me more money for less work.I don't question your numbers. It seems like ~$8 is the going piecemeal rate for these things. What I am wondering is if you can find enough individuals who want one or two of these brackets. I am thinking most of the demand for these brackets is computer shops that assemble p.c. components for sale, and they probably buy the brackets in bulk much like you did. Hopefully, there are enough techno geeks cobbling pc's together from the ground up to create a demand for you. Time will tell I suppose.

[Sir Isaac Lime]

I have had this idea floating for awhile, to start something like a business-plan or resume writing service. I suppose it might work, given my excellent writing skills and educational credentials and all. . . but I always seem to come to a dead end when it comes to certain aspects (getting a website running, for example, setting up a payment method and creating a "trustworthy" site). Need to think more about it, I suppose. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, ideally, consulting-type work would be the best. Sure, there's potential risk, but there is also great reward. . . in freedom, eh?

Well, you might take a look at this site: http://www.elance.com, more specifically the writing section: http://www.elance.com/c/cats/main/categories.pl?catId=10180&type=buyer

Basically, various people and companies post all sorts of projects (resumes, articles, books, etc) and you as a writer (or programmer, web designer, etc) can go on the site and bid on them. You do the project, submit it and get a check in your mailbox. A lot form home business based off of sites like these.

Theres some pretty good business in web content/article writing.
http://www.elance.com/c/fp/main/viewprofile.pl?view_person=JustWriteConsult&type=seller&catid=10208

[garak]

I don't question your numbers. It seems like ~$8 is the going piecemeal rate for these things. What I am wondering is if you can find enough individuals who want one or two of these brackets. I am thinking most of the demand for these brackets is computer shops that assemble p.c. components for sale, and they probably buy the brackets in bulk much like you did. Hopefully, there are enough techno geeks cobbling pc's together from the ground up to create a demand for you. Time will tell I suppose.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14293&item=6779169328&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14293&item=6777260431&rd=1

Both were week long auctions, one sold 10, the other sold 11. So while I doubt mine will all sell out in one auction, they should trickle out at a pretty good rate.

(oh yeah and a good number of the purchases were for multiple at once -- which means I make more money per item by combining shipping)

[kuranes]

Have you arrived at Portland yet? Or did you go back home? I am confused. Perhaps you never left?

My focus group was successful last night.

[garak]

I haven't gone anywhere yet.

[indie]

Well, you might take a look at this site: http://www.elance.com, more specifically the writing section: http://www.elance.com/c/cats/main/categories.pl?catId=10180&type=buyer

Basically, various people and companies post all sorts of projects (resumes, articles, books, etc) and you as a writer (or programmer, web designer, etc) can go on the site and bid on them. You do the project, submit it and get a check in your mailbox. A lot form home business based off of sites like these.

Theres some pretty good business in web content/article writing.
http://www.elance.com/c/fp/main/viewprofile.pl?view_person=JustWriteConsult&type=seller&catid=10208

They want you to pay. . . hm, I suppose it might balance out given the costs involved with starting a site from scratch or something. Need to think more about it and read about it I suppose.

Kuranes, what does your focus group have to do with this? :)

[garak]

http://www.webmastersreference.com/silent-sales-machine.shtml
http://www.webmastersreference.com/auction-sources-exposed.shtml

[garak]

http://www.webmastersreference.com/knowledge/marketing/rp-magic-button.shtml

Damn I love this site. sil!

[garak]

Sweeeeet

got approved for another $1000 credit card.

[kuranes]

Indiejade, I had mentioned Focus groups earlier in the thread as a possible way to raise some cash short term. garak expressed some interest in it, and so I elaborated on it in post 25 and elsewhere on the site. I happen to live near the offices where many of these operations are located. I'm not sure how many are near anybody who's interested in pursuing this - after reading me. If they're not located very near to you, then my info on this may not be very helpful. garak asked how to find them and I suppose my answer there wasn't terribly informative either. Sorry. I know about the ones near me. Not sure how you locate ones near you. Yellow Pages? Google? To answer your question, Indie, I was just just following up on the conclusion of that loose end, telling how my latest visit went. I have another scheduled for tomorrow night. $150 to show up as an "alternate" who will probably not get used. I will be "someone who uses credit card websites" here, vs. posing as a "day trader" ( my last one ). So I'll be "posing" as MYSELF, this time, since I actually DO use credit card websites occasionally. They wish to get feedback on the ease of navigation of their new credit card portal/site, which I think is still being developed. Last time I did this, I forgot to bring my glasses, and so it was a little hinky. Still got paid. Now I've been asked back again. ( The fools! Hee Hee! )

I will now check out this webmasters thing.

K-man

[garak]

Update:

I learned that selling goods on ebay can make you money, but it's not easy. Everything sells for cheap, and it's hard to find ways to buy things for much cheaper than they sell on ebay. Also, you gotta ship stuff out and keep packing/mailing supplies etc. etc. That part isn't so bad to me though. But overall I couldn't find anything to make a good enough profit on that it could actually sustain me (or even come close).

BUT

The new thing is selling information. eBooks, guides, etc. I wrote a guide, took me maybe 8 hours (very rough guess) of actual work to do. I put up one 'test' auction, and it sold for $6.49. Of course that seems crappy for a full day's work, but that was just one auction. I can sell this over and over and over and over. And people are doing it. And people are buying. Imagine I make 5 bucks per day off of this one thing -- not too unreasonable at all. That would be $140/month. Free car insurance and gas. I have some other "information products" that look very promising, and I could make just as much with them. Of course, maybe even more, but I don't want to get ahead of myself. The coolest thing is that all you do is set up auctions, get paid, and then email the product to the buyer. I think I really can make a real living off of this.

[garak]

I forgot to mention that from that one auction, I will possibly make about $6-7 more, by using ebay's "second chance offers." If you have more than one of a single item, you can use this to sell to non-winning bidders for their bid amount. For an actual physical item, this isn't always as appealing, since you're taking a lower price for an item than you might otherwise get, but for what I'm doing, it's just more money flowing in.

[kuranes]

I wonder what kind of "guides" people are most interested in? This concept sounds cool. I would rather advise people about things than have to do those same things over and over.

[kendoiwan]

I can't say anything legal on the subject.

here's a couple of suggestions/ on how you could finesse it/you find a dude in town you send him a short message/ say hey I'm new in town I don't know my way around/but I got that soft white that's sure to comeback brown...

pick out a quiet town and tie it down/make nigga's lie it down/ yall know where to buy it now/... I supply it now... :laser:

outside of that, maybe you know someone whose already in that line of work who you can "invest" a sum of money for an agreed apon return? :ph34r:

Or maybe you know someone who could get into that line of work (nothing else going, preferably SP, who you can trust to bring you back your cash) and start an enterprise?
:ph34r:

Or you can holla at perdue and get a job? ;P

PS what's with the fizzyassgravy?

[garak]

Yep, I did buy an ebook about ebay myself, and it was mostly about doing exactly this. The author had a little formula:

Step 1: Become an expert at something
Step 2: Charge money to teach other people about it

As I'm sure you can understand, I don't wanna say EXACTLY what I am selling, because of competition paranoia. Not that there aren't already a bunch of people selling what I'm selling, but one more is never a good thing...

But I'm not anything magical. If I can figure it out, so can pretty much anyone here.

[garak]

I can't say anything legal on the subject.

here's a couple of suggestions/ on how you could finesse it/you find a dude in town you send him a short message/ say hey I'm new in town I don't know my way around/but I got that soft white that's sure to comeback brown...

pick out a quiet town and tie it down/make nigga's lie it down/ yall know where to buy it now/... I supply it now... :laser:

outside of that, maybe you know someone whose already in that line of work who you can "invest" a sum of money for an agreed apon return? :ph34r:

Or maybe you know someone who could get into that line of work (nothing else going, preferably SP, who you can trust to bring you back your cash) and start an enterprise?
:ph34r:

Or you can holla at perdue and get a job? ;P
Heh, trust me, I've been very tempted, and even slightly gotten into it in the past, but it really bothers me having to worry about getting busted.


PS what's with the fizzyassgravy?
It is teh sekrit

[kendoiwan]

Heh, trust me, I've been very tempted, and even slightly gotten into it in the past, but it really bothers me having to worry about getting busted.


It is teh sekrit

What the cops? I don't know what it's like in Iowa,but the cops couldn't catch a cold unless someone told them where to look. And I'm quite sure if you thought through the details of evasion (stash locations, changing patterns, no business over the phone, etc.) the worst that could happen is you get robbed. And if you think through the details of that... then it shouldn't happen either. :whistle:

and at the risk of appearing dense... WTF? the secret?

[garak]

What the cops? I don't know what it's like in Iowa,but the cops couldn't catch a cold unless someone told them where to look. And I'm quite sure if you thought through the details of evasion (stash locations, changing patterns, no business over the phone, etc.) the worst that could happen is you get robbed. And if you think through the details of that... then it shouldn't happen either. :whistle:
My friend's house got raided and he narrowly escaped 2 felony charges, so yeah, it happens here. Not sure what the odds are, but I think they're high enough to be a bit paranoid, and I hate having to be paranoid.


and at the risk of appearing dense... WTF? the secret?
Just a stupid inside joke. (where "inside" basically just means me)

[jetboots]

How do you deal with people buying your guide and reselling it themselves? How hardcore does this get legally in reality?

[garak]

How do you deal with people buying your guide and reselling it themselves? How hardcore does this get legally in reality?
If I find out then I can report them to ebay, but to find out I'd probably have to buy from them. It's not really a unique item, so I'm not that worried. And as long as I'm still making money, that's what matters.

[joft]

"cola looks like fizzy ass gravy" - garak, circa 2004? or so

[garak]

The story goes so much deeper.

[kendoiwan]

My friend's house got raided and he narrowly escaped 2 felony charges, so yeah, it happens here. Not sure what the odds are, but I think they're high enough to be a bit paranoid, and I hate having to be paranoid.


Just a stupid inside joke. (where "inside" basically just means me)


Again I know nothing of life in Iowa, but :rant: :rant: who the hell :rant: :rant: sells drugs :rant: :rant: from their own home? Please tell me your friend was not selling drugs from his home... Might as well put up a sign, saying come rob me and arrest me.

Cops rely on informants heavily, run things the right way and they never catch on, just for the record. I've never been arrested for that, (although I have been arrested for other things, never been convicted of anything for that matter) and I have friends who might as well have majored in selling crack.

But pay my heathen ass no mind, just telling you what I would do in your predicament. All that other stuff is to much work. Might as well get a job. On another note do you know how many unsolved bank robberies there are? Especially in proportion to the bank jobs done? Might as well be legal.
There I go again...

[garak]

Again I know nothing of life in Iowa, but :rant: :rant: who the hell :rant: :rant: sells drugs :rant: :rant: from their own home? Please tell me your friend was not selling drugs from his home... Might as well put up a sign, saying come rob me and arrest me.
He's an ENTP and seems to have a lot enemies. I'm not sure of the details really.


But pay my heathen ass no mind, just telling you what I would do in your predicament. All that other stuff is to much work. Might as well get a job.
There I go again...
Ebay isn't that much work. Dealing with people is more like a job to me than messing around with stuff on the internet. That's the other reason that drugs didn't seem like a good fit. Plus people are always so retarded about drugs. "Oh dude this shit is so good oh man you'll be so blah blah blah"


On another note do you know how many unsolved bank robberies there are? Especially in proportion to the bank jobs done? Might as well be legal.
Heh, I worked with a guy at micky d's who later went on to rob a bank dressed as a girl, and he got busted. Too bad too, he was cool.

[kendoiwan]

He's an ENTP and seems to have a lot enemies. I'm not sure of the details really.


Ebay isn't that much work. Dealing with people is more like a job to me than messing around with stuff on the internet. That's the other reason that drugs didn't seem like a good fit. Plus people are always so retarded about drugs. "Oh dude this shit is so good oh man you'll be so blah blah blah"

Heh, I worked with a guy at micky d's who later went on to rob a bank dressed as a girl, and he got busted. Too bad too, he was cool.


If he was smart he'd cut you in on the action and let you do the planning, he'd be richer and free'r(?) I'm sure.

[garak]

Well in any case, I've made over 10 bucks now on a single "test" auction for this one item, so things are looking good. The only work I have to do is posting auctions every so often (twice a day maybe at most, and only takes a couple minutes), a little bookkeeping (which is actually kinda fun, because I'm perfecting my spreadsheet and the formulas and whatnot) and email checking and whatnot. Time to crank things up and see what kind of cashflow I can get going!

[kendoiwan]

Well in any case, I've made over 10 bucks now on a single "test" auction for this one item, so things are looking good. The only work I have to do is posting auctions every so often (twice a day maybe at most, and only takes a couple minutes), a little bookkeeping (which is actually kinda fun, because I'm perfecting my spreadsheet and the formulas and whatnot) and email checking and whatnot. Time to crank things up and see what kind of cashflow I can get going!

Kinda sounds like drugs... maybe you're on to something...

[garak]

Information wants to be free! I'm just charging a little to free it :P