Annoying Extroverts, GRAH

[EternalCynic]

Alright, please tell me I'm not alone on this. Does it REALLY get one anyone elses nerves when a person (this person in particular was ENFJ, but that's.. mostly.. beside the point) makes obvious bids for peoples attention, even at the cost of interrupting discussions and changing subjects or doing something completely moronic?

This is my particular situation: A girl I've known for about three years (since my freshmen year in high school) is always trying to become the center of attention, even if it's only for a moment and in some obscure way. I have noticed this, I try to call her out on it, but I'm always at fault when I try to.

Yesterday we had a 10 minute break before passing period, to third period. So we were sitting in the art room (my home at that school) and as per usual when class is not in sessioin, the big glass doors were locked. She was standing and the two of my friends (ah, not -close- close friends.. but the best i can hope to find at the time being) and myself were sitting at one of the tables. My two friends and I were having a discussion, something about this kid who they sit next to in their art class, and he also sits next to me in mine (I don't know him well, but I'm dead sure he is an INTP) and they were complaining about how much of a jerk he was. I tried to get them to understand, but all the while I hear Krissy (ENFJ) spurting out little things like, "I wonder if I should let them in.. hmm.. no, I'm lazy." and then a minute or less later, "Haha, I'm so mean!! I should let them in, NOT, hahaha," And again, a minute later, "They're knocking on the door, I'm not letting them in, I'm such a bitch, haha." I seemed to be the only one who could hear her, but tried to continue my conversation.
She kept going on and on, vying for our attention, "HAHA, I'M NOT LETTING THEM IN CUZ I'M A BITCH, HAHA *points at door and laughs*
I finally just -snapped- at her,
"YES. I GOT THAT. WE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE NOT LETTING THEM IN, SHUT UP."
And my two friends turned on me, "Uh! Talk about BITCH mode!"

....I was irate. Does anyone else have a problem like this? Honestly.. it happens -all- the time and I'm getting rather fed up.

[Sam172]

I have problems like that, but in a more subtle way with my girlfriend.

She's pretty much as extroverted as possible (opposites attract so some people say ¬_¬). She's recently been getting attention because she's turned vegan and died her hair bright red.


But yes, people who try and get attention annoy me.

[Avengardh]

Ouch.

Just curious, are you still in HS? If so, my condolences. Back in HS there were just too many girls who did the same thing (yes...art class was my home back then too) one of them always talked about how she went and slept with these 22+ yr old guys, always outloud, always so everyone else could hear her.

As it turned out, she ended up sitting on our table (2 of my male friends, her, and I) and we became friends. Talk about irony, she was funny in an entertaining way, except when she wanted to "hook" me up with way too many guys.

I guess the conclusion to this story is: you are making yourself more miserable by letting her get to you, I would ignore her, or better yet, be her "friend". You can learn something from just about anyone. To tell you the truth most of those people are really truly sad inside and most of them have no self-esteem, so, in short, why would you lose your time worrying about someone who is so sad?? Tis just my opinion though :]

~*Aven*~

[EternalCynic]

Ouch.

Just curious, are you still in HS? If so, my condolences.

I guess the conclusion to this story is: you are making yourself more miserable by letting her get to you, I would ignore her, or better yet, be her "friend".

Yes, I'm still in high school, a senior. That's just it, I -have- been her friend all these years, it's just that it get's so tiresome. I have no problem with those who want to be different and stand out, make a difference, etc, it's just that she claims to be so original and also says how above everyone else she is, and yet she subscribes to the same nonsense as 12 year olds who shop at hot topic because they think it is different and will make them cool. And believe you me, I've tried to ignore her.. it's not very easy.

But yes, you are right. I am making a big deal of this, but it just bothers me when someone calls me out like that when I had perfectly good reason to be angry (or annoyed). Just something I ought to work on, haha

[Crazy]

It's very interesting, because usually the person will be interesting to people at first, then when they are around them more they begin to ignore them. I think it's hilarious.

One thing I hate about some people like that is that once they get the attention, they don't want to let go of it, so you can't get a word in edgewise. Not to mention they also sometimes try to speak intelligently about something they have no knowledge of, and totally miss the point, just to try and be part of a conversation.

[EternalCynic]

It's very interesting, because usually the person will be interesting to people at first, then when they are around them more they begin to ignore them. I think it's hilarious.

One thing I hate about some people like that is that once they get the attention, they don't want to let go of it, so you can't get a word in edgewise. Not to mention they also sometimes try to speak intelligently about something they have no knowledge of, and totally miss the point, just to try and be part of a conversation.

Exactly. It drives me mad because Krissy (the aforementioned extrovert) does that -all the time-, particularly with politics, but many other things as well. I always spot out her errors, but again, when I point them out and correct her, I'm automatically the bitch. Bother. :rant:

[Crazy]

It's very interesting, because usually the person will be interesting to people at first, then when they are around them more they begin to ignore them. I think it's hilarious.

One thing I hate about some people like that is that once they get the attention, they don't want to let go of it, so you can't get a word in edgewise. Not to mention they also sometimes try to speak intelligently about something they have no knowledge of, and totally miss the point, just to try and be part of a conversation.

Exactly. It drives me mad because Krissy (the aforementioned extrovert) does that -all the time-, particularly with politics, but many other things as well. I always spot out her errors, but again, when I point them out and correct her, I'm automatically the bitch. Bother. :rant:

It seems that extroverts of that type have a hard time accepting constructive criticism gracefully. It most likely stems from an incessant need to belong, in which constructive criticism can often times feel like rejection. We as INTP's can be too blunt for these people, coming off as an A-hole, when we are only trying to help.

[unynh3d]

Exactly. It drives me mad because Krissy (the aforementioned extrovert) does that -all the time-, particularly with politics, but many other things as well. I always spot out her errors, but again, when I point them out and correct her, I'm automatically the bitch. Bother. :rant:

Don't try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

or

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces"
Jesus Christ, AD 33

Just close your eyes and sigh. Those around you who do get it will appreciate your restraint and join in the sigh. Those who don't will only give you crap.

[Avengardh]

It's ok though, that's why this is here, to blow off steam :D

~*Aven*~

[EternalCynic]

Exactly. It drives me mad because Krissy (the aforementioned extrovert) does that -all the time-, particularly with politics, but many other things as well. I always spot out her errors, but again, when I point them out and correct her, I'm automatically the bitch. Bother. :rant:

Don't try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

or

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces"
Jesus Christ, AD 33

Just close your eyes and sigh. Those around you who do get it will appreciate your restraint and join in the sigh. Those who don't will only give you crap.

Very true, thank you, this is much appreciated. :)

[howiec]

I am an ENFP. When I saw the title of this thread, I was preparing to jump in and defend the honor of extroverts everywhere, but, no, that is annoying. I would have attacked. I am afraid, however, that you are confusing two very different terms. "Extrovert" and "idiot" are not always the same.

[Laeskis]

kick her...hard. :whistle:

[Last Song]

I am an ENFP. When I saw the title of this thread, I was preparing to jump in and defend the honor of extroverts everywhere, but, no, that is annoying. I would have attacked. I am afraid, however, that you are confusing two very different terms. "Extrovert" and "idiot" are not always the same.

:huh: ... explain? ... ;)

[Miss Padfoot]

I have some problems with my ENFJ friend. She's just got Fe coming out her ears. Actually, I don't like her that much. She's a bit of a pain. And I've also been friends with her since freshman year, so I feel guilty rejecting her now. (Fortunately I'll be rid of her after I graduate.) For some reason I seem to be fundamentally unable to snap at her. Probably because I'm scared of her Fe coming out. I really wish I could snap at her, though. Everyone else can avoid letting her think they want to be her friend, but I can't. I'm always civil. I hate it.

[s]

EternalCynic: your post... though maybe not nice... was hilarious.

Seemingly extroverted people are sometimes just introverts on their stage and in character. Introverts trying too hard can be annoying like that. Sometimes people are just morons. I am leaning towards moron for that girl.

Ya know, an ENTJ can be a nice match for an INTP. Look for a gifted one, though.

[EternalCynic]

EternalCynic: your post... though maybe not nice... was hilarious.

Seemingly extroverted people are sometimes just introverts on their stage and in character. Introverts trying too hard can be annoying like that. Sometimes people are just morons. I am leaning towards moron for that girl.

Ya know, an ENTJ can be a nice match for an INTP. Look for a gifted one, though.

Hehe, yes, that is generally the popular opinion (not just on this board, but of the people i know). What can I say, I'm a little blunt on rare occasions, this was just one of those days :D.

And of course not all extroverts are morons, i didnt really mean the title to imply that ^^;.. it was meant to be more like "This person is annoying because of their extroverted..ness.."

Laeskis: Steel-toed boots sound fine? :whistle:

[Division56]

I nominate Cynic as a bitch goddess. :lol:

[Laeskis]

Steel toed boots are wonderful negotiators; especially when fitted with climbing spikes.

[EternalCynic]

Haha, bitch goddess? Oh come now, was I really THAT cruel? *Pulls out her "wonderful negotiators" storage* :D

[file cabinet]

Seemingly extroverted people are sometimes just introverts on their stage and in character.
this is true.. except I haven't experienced it in awhile. I worked for a cafe for 2.5 years.. after about 6 months or something I came out of my shell and I was 'the man' .. I felt like I was the 'best' cafe employee and knew the ropes.. I didn't need to ask for help from anyone.. although I never got out of the fucking cafe (it was a bookstore+cafe).. I felt extroverted at times and did some pretty crazy shit.. or at least other ppl thought it was 'crazy' / bizarre. crossdressing.... piercings(3 lip rings which I no longer have)... I just had a certain kind of energy that I released when I worked.. I felt comfortable there and rarely had an awkard. I didn't consider it 'family' or anything like my other friend who was fired from his job for stealing.. I was fired for an outburst I made toward another person on a day when I truly felt like shit and said something I shouldn't have... sentence fragment.. and another thing, when I was fired from my job I had dreams(for many many months) that I still worked there but I considered them nightmares, I just couldn't push that shit out of my brain like I could with other things. sigh...

[s]

Seemingly extroverted people are sometimes just introverts on their stage and in character.
this is true.. except I haven't experienced it in awhile. I worked for a cafe for 2.5 years.. after about 6 months or something I came out of my shell and I was 'the man' .. I felt like I was the 'best' cafe employee and knew the ropes.. I didn't need to ask for help from anyone.. although I never got out of the fucking cafe (it was a bookstore+cafe).. I felt extroverted at times and did some pretty crazy shit.. or at least other ppl thought it was 'crazy' / bizarre. crossdressing.... piercings(3 lip rings which I no longer have)... I just had a certain kind of energy that I released when I worked.. I felt comfortable there and rarely had an awkard. I didn't consider it 'family' or anything like my other friend who was fired from his job for stealing.. I was fired for an outburst I made toward another person on a day when I truly felt like shit and said something I shouldn't have... sentence fragment.. and another thing, when I was fired from my job I had dreams(for many many months) that I still worked there but I considered them nightmares, I just couldn't push that shit out of my brain like I could with other things. sigh...

File this under "been there, done that" for me. Well, sans the piercings and crossdressing. It was horrible for me, too. Strange how someone else had the same experience. I am so glad you shared, because it makes me realize I am not alone. I have had a few almost manic episodes of extraversion and they have all ended pretty ugly. The worst part is reliving it over and over in dreams and analyzing it during the waking hours.

[Avengardh]

Ok, I am going to share a funny but annoying experience.

There was this kid in my calc III class...whom I used to call "Moronic Kid" (he was probably 18-19). He would always ask questions, and we are talking a LOT of them. Every time the professor would pause at a sentence he was saying, MK would ask something. At one point I had a count of how many questions he would ask a day, I was going to make a pie chart out of it too...but I didn't. Hehe.

He wanted to be a structural or civil engineer, the person sitting next to me would always tell me "I hope I don't ever have to go through one of his bridges", which used to make us laugh.

MK: "But, but, what about air resistance??"
Prof: "*Sigh* This is a math class...this is just a model...go take a physics class for that"
MK: "But...but...the surface area of the ball..."
Prof: "This is just a model, it's not relevant"
MK: "Shouldn't at least air resistance count?"
Prof: *GLARE* "No"

~*Aven*~

[Laeskis]

I wouldn't knock the guy for the questions....but I would knock him for detracting from the lesson.
Kid shouldn't assume the teacher's his own private tutor; he wastes the class' time.
Ya didn't tell him, discreetly, that he should perhaps 'shut the hell up'?

[s]

Ok, I am going to share a funny but annoying experience.

There was this kid in my calc III class...whom I used to call "Moronic Kid" (he was probably 18-19). He would always ask questions, and we are talking a LOT of them. Every time the professor would pause at a sentence he was saying, MK would ask something. At one point I had a count of how many questions he would ask a day, I was going to make a pie chart out of it too...but I didn't. Hehe.

He wanted to be a structural or civil engineer, the person sitting next to me would always tell me "I hope I don't ever have to go through one of his bridges", which used to make us laugh.

MK: "But, but, what about air resistance??"

IProf: "*Sigh* This is a math class...this is just a model...go take a physics class for that"
MK: "But...but...the surface area of the ball..."
Prof: "This is just a model, it's not relevant"
MK: "Shouldn't at least air resistance count?"
Prof: *GLARE* "No"

~*Aven*~


I stare holes into their heads.

:rant:

Honestly, one of my biggest pet peeves.

[EternalCynic]

I agree with Laeskis, questions are okay, but when it is ruins the flow of the lesson and distracts everyone, it is REALLY annoying.

There is someone just like that in my Psych class, also a slacker and never pays attention, but when he -does- pay attention, he chimes in and says random stuff that -sounds- like it has to do with what the teacher is saying, but doesnt actually mean anything at all.

I feel really bad for Gundy (Aka, Mr Gunderson), he is an ENFP I believe, and an amazing guy.. but very emotional. I can tell he is genuinely hurt when this kid is sleeping or listening to music or drawing, I'm always kicking his desk trying to get him to pay attention :(

[Claverhouse]

There is someone just like that in my Psych class, also a slacker and never pays attention, but when he -does- pay attention, he chimes in and says random stuff that -sounds- like it has to do with what the teacher is saying, but doesnt actually mean anything at all.

I feel really bad for Gundy (Aka, Mr Gunderson), he is an ENFP I believe, and an amazing guy.. but very emotional. I can tell he is genuinely hurt when this kid is sleeping or listening to music or drawing, I'm always kicking his desk trying to get him to pay attention :(


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