What types SHOULD be most attractive to INTPs?

[Maniac]

ESFJ? INFJ?

[joft]

INTP

[Maniac]

No way. Like repels like. INTP women are WAY too bitchy. I've never slapped a woman, but an INTP woman would probably drive me to, with their incessant bitching.

[s0978]

Like repels like.
actually I doubt we have very much in common, but indeed I find you quite repellant

[Maniac]

Actually, it should be, "I find you quite repelling." When you attempt to insult someone, and your grammar is off, you make yourself look like a royal ass. Look at this post here (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=5120) for a woman who admits she's an INTP bitch on wheels. You are the weakest link... goodbye.

[Helios]

For sure another INTP, I have noticed that both online and IRL, I seem to really dig INTP's that are 5.

I think me being with another 7 would be a bad idea. Our deaths would be something Trainspotting-ish, and that wasn't very pretty.


edit-it is sick, but I love bitches, if they are clever. Just don't shit on me too much that gets old.

[headfonez]

the answer is INFJ

[Nighthawk]

According to Keirsey, it is supposed to be ENFJ. Identical N for the communication commonality, and the rest opposite to complement. I'm not sure if I believe that. E's usually burn me out to the point that I do not want to be with them after a while. I've found INFJ and INFP to be a good match for me. Of course, I ended up with an ISFJ.

[Maniac]

Of course, I ended up with an ISFJ.

Why the of course?

[Nighthawk]

Why the of course?
Irony.

[joft]

I stand by INTP. people are biased toward loving themselves, so they should love that which is most like them

[kikthinking]

according to keirsey, ENFJ. according socionics, ENFP. though, honestly, i think mbti/personlality typing absolutely does not apply to love. i think it's bullshit. i've dated all four temperaments, and i had an amazing time with all of them.

if you have relationship problems, then MBTI can help reconcile the differences. but, it should never ever never ever never ever affect who you want to be with, nor predict anything.

[Maniac]

Irony.

Why is it irony?

[Nighthawk]

according to keirsey, ENFJ. according socionics, ENFP. though, honestly, i think mbti/personlality typing absolutely does not apply to love. i think it's bullshit. i've dated all four temperaments, and i had an amazing time with all of them.

if you have relationship problems, then MBTI can help reconcile the differences. but, it should never ever never ever never ever affect who you want to be with, nor predict anything.
Well said. I am married to an ISFJ and we are very happy together ... despite not being a perfect MBTI match. What MBTI has done for us is give us an understanding of why the other does what he or she does. It has smoothed over a lot of potential issues by helping us understand that it is only our nature, rather than being done just to piss off the other.

[Nighthawk]

Why is it irony?
I just find it ironic that, with all the conflicts I have with SJ Guardians ... I end up falling in love with and marrying one. Even more so when it is not exactly an ideal match according to MBTI ... and I am a rather big fan of MBTI.

I did have some very good relationships with NF women (a good MBTI match). It just never got to the point of marriage.

[meshou]

No way. Like repels like. INTP women are WAY too bitchy. I've never slapped a woman, but an INTP woman would probably drive me to, with their incessant bitching.I am perfectly happy with an INTP man at the moment. It is a match that works in many cases. In your case, I can bet the feeling would be mutual.

[alex]

Actually, it should be, "I find you quite repelling." When you attempt to insult someone, and your grammar is off, you make yourself look like a royal ass.
Please explain the rule/principle behind your correction

[meshou]

Actually, it should be, "I find you quite repelling." When you attempt to insult someone, and your grammar is off, you make yourself look like a royal ass. Look at this post here (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=5120) for a woman who admits she's an INTP bitch on wheels. You are the weakest link... goodbye.One woman admitting she is a bitch does not speak for all INTP females.

His grammar and usage does not make you more attractive, nor does pointing it out.

Using the weakest link catchphrase was stupid and cliched the second producers named that show. Using it three years after the show became unpopular and expecting to sound clever is like doing the macarena at a club and expecting to look cool.

I suppose this means I will never have sex with you. Pity.

[Maniac]

I suppose this means I will never have sex with you. Pity.

I never thought I'd be so relieved to hear a woman won't be having sex with me. Wow, I think now I've experienced it all...

[kruT]

XXXP. I like it hardcore and out of order.
(INFJ)

[Ka.avik]

I just find it ironic
[...]
I did have some very good relationships with NF women
Is that better than being aluminitic, or carbonic? Why, I occasionally ask, is ferrous metal so ironic?

And, while I can agree that NFs are an easy-to-get-along-with type, most (not all) of the NFs I've met aren't thick-skinned enough to put up with my insistence on precision. I've been told I use words like weapons. So, I went back and reread my email, and found....nothing. A little discouraging (I thought she was pressing too close) but no weapons of mass destruction.

I'd simply suggest Ns for communication style, but that can be flexible depending on how badly you need your whole idea to be understood. I would recommend avioding Js because their resistance to careful consideration can be absolutely maddening...but, again I can see it working out. Particularly if the J has become so world-weary that they have stop insisting on imposing their will upon everthing they touch.

Probably a well-worn xNTJ for me. :rofl: as if there's a store somewhere to buy these women, prebuilt to specifications :p

You're right Nighthawk, sometimes love happens, and you just have to go with it.

[Maniac]

I'd simply suggest Ns for communication style, but that can be flexible depending on how badly you need your whole idea to be understood.

I need them to understand my weird crackpot ideas yes.

[meshou]

I never thought I'd be so relieved to hear a woman won't be having sex with me. Wow, I think now I've experienced it all...Good to hear I added to your experience of life.

For all you know, I am perfectly nice to reasonible people who do not proclaim all people like me horrible people, and then make a pedantic insulting comment without bothering to be clever or intersting. Alas, you were doomed to be distasteful from the start.

Next time either hold back for a bit or attempt to be interesting. Maybe then INTP women would suit you better. But we do tend to dislike the boring and closed minded.

[deus.ex.machina]

According to Keirsey, it is supposed to be ENFJ. Identical N for the communication commonality, and the rest opposite to complement. I'm not sure if I believe that. E's usually burn me out to the point that I do not want to be with them after a while. I've found INFJ and INFP to be a good match for me. Of course, I ended up with an ISFJ.

interesting I am engaged to an ISFJ

[Maniac]

For all you know, I am perfectly nice to reasonible people who do not proclaim all people like me horrible people, and then make a pedantic insulting comment without bothering to be clever or intersting. Alas, you were doomed to be distasteful from the start.


I don't know the limits of your niceness, you never made the effort to show it. When did bitchy = horrible? I see many women here (and elsewhere for that matter), being proud of their uber-bitchiness! I for one don't like it. If you feel my observation was incorrect, you could have responded in an adult way, instead of your trite and boring retorts. What's distaseful is that a grown woman can take offense at what was clearly an offhand remark. Stop flaming ok?

[meshou]

I don't know the limits of your niceness, you never made the effort to show it. When did bitchy = horrible? I see many women here (and elsewhere for that matter), being proud of their uber-bitchiness! I for one don't like it. If you feel my observation was incorrect, you could have responded in an adult way, instead of your trite and boring retorts. What's distaseful is that a grown woman can take offense at what was clearly an offhand remark. Stop flaming ok?You flamed another poster first.

Bitchy is acceptable. You wanting to slap a woman is distasteful, as is being extremely pedantic and rude to that other member. Adult behavior indeed. I am nice to people who are nice, and match the tone of assholes.

[Maniac]

You flamed another poster first.

Bitchy is acceptable. You wanting to slap a woman is distasteful, as is being extremely pedantic and rude to that other member. Adult behavior indeed. I am nice to people who are nice, and match the tone of assholes.


If you would look carefully, you would see that other poster flamed first. However, I'm not going to start finger pointing like a little kid. In any case, I have no obligation to justify my actions to you. Maybe when you get off your pedestal and learn to control your ego, we can talk like normal adults.

In addition, I never said I WANTED to slap a woman, I said that incessant bitching would probably eventually lead me to do that, which is not something I want to do. Women who attack men with their words are not punished, even though that incessant bitching and nagging is what leads to men slapping women anyways. But that's another can of worms. I have no wish to attack any woman, and would only do under the direst of circumstances. Furthermore, I've taken the liberty of listing for you some synonyms for the word 'pedantic', because frankly, you've overabused that word on this forum, and it makes me want to slap you :shock:

abstruse, academic, arid, didactic, doctrinaire, donnish, dry, dull, egotistic, erudite, formal, fussy, hairsplitting, learned, nitpicking, ostentatious, overnice, particular, pedagogic, pompous, precise, priggish, punctilious, scholastic, schoolish, sententious, stilted

Enjoy, Mrs. Pedantic.

[meshou]

The concequence for a woman annoying or nagging you is to walk away like a man. If you don't have the self control to do so, or are so weak willed a woman can "make" you do anything, you do not deserve to breed. The other poster was right to call you on it.

With that, I leave you to your charming self.

[Maniac]

The concequence for a woman annoying or nagging you is to walk away like a man. If you don't have the self control to do so, or are so weak willed a woman can "make" you do anything, you do not deserve to breed.

With that, I leave you to be your charming self.

Sigh, once again, taking things out of context. If I didn't have self control I would probably slap women yes. The fact that I have never done so should speak for itself. Women talk of cutting guys balls off all the time, or various other graphic images having to do with our private parts, you don't see us throwing a bitch fit do you? Please, do yourself a favor and stop this "holier than thou" nonsense, it is really unbecoming.

[SwirlingSugarSparkles]

I've found these to be types I'm most attracted to.

ENTP
ENFP
INTP
INFP
ESFP

What's this about INTP women being bitchy? The only time I'm outwardly bitchy is usually at work because my job can be frustrating and I have to deal with a lot of frustrating situations and people. Other than that, I get along famously with people and go to great lengths to control any negative behavior. I'm very tolerant and easy to live with. I think bitchiness depends on other aspects of a person rather than their MBTI type. I hardly ever bitch or nag about things and actually defer to people quite a bit unless they strike me first in some way. :sobs:

[Avengardh]

INTP for me...

[elle]

infj, enfj

[Maniac]

After some thought, I've decided to retract the bitchiness comment, until further investigation...

[Sir Isaac Lime]

"Should"? I don't know if I understand the question.

Well, i'll simply play along with the rest and re-intepret this thread as "What types do you think INTPs are most attracted to". Even then the question is difficult since attractiveness could mean short-term, long-term, chaotic, etc.

Maybe theres a better way to phrase the question

[Zero Angel]

ENFP's very attractive, exciting and fun to joke with Ne humor tempered by Fi is very obvious. ISFJ fairly attractive, radiates femininity. Not sure I know any INFJ who are my age, but they are supposedly hard to pin.

[s0978]

If you would look carefully, you would see that other poster flamed first. However, I'm not going to start finger pointing like a little kid.
;P
ahaha

[joft]

"should" as in not accounting for personal tastes or differences

[Vagabond]

"Should"? I don't know if I understand the question.

Well, i'll simply play along with the rest and re-intepret this thread as "What types do you think INTPs are most attracted to". Even then the question is difficult since attractiveness could mean short-term, long-term, chaotic, etc.

Maybe theres a better way to phrase the question Lol, totally agree.

[T.J.]

Clive Owen. Clive Owen. Clive Owen. Well... Make that the characters he plays. I don't know if it's more that I want him or that I want to be him. Either way... Yowza.

So, um, ENTJ.

(And I obviously interpreted the question subjectively, as I interpret every question. But Personality Page (http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_rel.html) backs me up.)

[Sir Isaac Lime]

ENFP feels harmonious, evolving itself naturally. Smiley, care-free
INFP is deep, opiate, mermaid-esque. Like merging with the anima/animus

I've yet to date an INTP, or even know one in "real life". It does seem very appealing to me - quite enigmatic and intriquing.

[Serotonin]

ISFJ fairly attractive, radiates femininity.

Very true. There's an "innocence, purity" thing that's strangely alluring. After all the SJ bashing we indulge in, the INTP man / ISFJ woman marriage seems quite common. Happened with my parents, except genders reversed (so both quite rare for their types). For purely pragmatic purposes, ISFJ women would make the perfect wives and partners. They're just not soulmates. And therein lies the problem.

An INTP/ISFJ marriage seems to work and endure, insofar as being able to fit into normal society, with most of the practical ground-work (being a host(ess) for dinner parties, making sure the day-to-day running of the house is in order) resting on the shoulders of the ISFJ.
An INTP/INFJ relationship for example, may also "work" but the incentive for marriage may not be a strong, plus since both are rare types both may feel "lost" and need each other's support too much, and both may become so introspective that practical matters e.g. money and house-maintenance may become an issue. Creating a wedge and potential for arguments. But if either the INTP or INFJ has a well-developed S this may be avoided [/wild speculation].

[Architectonic]

according to keirsey, ENFJ. according socionics, ENFP.

According to Myers, 3 shared preferences - ie INFP, ISTP, INTJ, ENTP.

According to a bunch of people on the internet (therefore absolutely right. :P ) INFJ.

In conclusion, NFs seem to be the most compatible. I also happen to be attracted to ENTPs.

[booyalab]

Clive Owen. Clive Owen. Clive Owen. Well... Make that the characters he plays. I don't know if it's more that I want him or that I want to be him. Either way... Yowza.

So, um, ENTJ.


yes. Also ENTPs.

[jread]

I'm with an ENTJ and it works well. The only conflict is the P/J clash that tends to happen now and then, but I think there is much more good from this than bad. J's are much better at paying bills and getting things done than P's are :D

[sbw]

For sure another INTP, I have noticed that both online and IRL, I seem to really dig INTP's that are 5.

I think me being with another 7 would be a bad idea. Our deaths would be something Trainspotting-ish, and that wasn't very pretty.


edit-it is sick, but I love bitches, if they are clever. Just don't shit on me too much that gets old.

I've been saying for years that when another man describes a woman that I've not met as a "bitch", I'm definitely MORE interested in meeting her, rather than less. (after all, in a gender-neutral sense, bitch = asshole, and people call me an asshole all the time)

probably has something to do with my perception that many men use "bitch" to mean "female who is not quiet and subservient." naturally, I disapprove of this widespread variety of misogyny that I've witnessed.

Scott

[Imen de Naars]

Speaking for an ENTP, I really like INTJ and ISFJ women. I absolutely need the J, my very strong P must be balanced, two Ps and the whole relationship gets too laid-back, at least from the experiences I had - which doesn't mean I will exclude a priori any future ENFP ISFP or whatever.
The soulmate issue is quite different. Probably INFJ or ENFP would fit. But there's a slight difference between what I think should be a soulmate and what I mean for a partner.

[euterpenc]

I tend to be physically attracted to ESFs mostly. Intellectually, I think maybe ENFJ?

[Winterpark]

According to profile descriptions and very little personal expirience, I think that IXFJs & EXFPs would make the best mates for me. (and X doesn't mean "balanced", but "either way".)...although I think "balanced" could be even better. I don't know.)

[Lemon Drop]

ENFP because....

E- Believe it or not it's healthy to get out of your caves everynow and then.
N- Because N's are deep and the communicating style of an S would be unfullfilling.
F- T is an excellent function, I wish I had it. But sometimes you have to have a little tenderness.
P- Because P's won't beat you up for not fullfilling all of your countless dreams and goals...that you do have alot of. They will stand behind you and believe in you. They will let you be you. And plus, a EP will be spontaneous and give you lots of good times. Random trips and fun stuff that will make you well rounded.


Also I would like to add about the P function...when one is out looking for a girlfriend/boyfriend....I think INTP's are drawn to P's because they don't think...."Gee I want someone to judge me and control my schedule today and be an old mother hen." I think this is something that is appreciated, if at all, with age. But by then, each can work on strengthening their J.

[jehosafats]

In absolute ideal types, ESTJ, I guess.

[MacGuffin]

In absolute ideal types, ESTJ, I guess.

You resurrected a 3 year old thread to make that bad guess?

I'd like to hear an explanation of the ESTJ.

[skip]

After all the SJ bashing we indulge in, the INTP man / ISFJ woman marriage seems quite common. Happened with my parents, except genders reversed (so both quite rare for their types). For purely pragmatic purposes, ISFJ women would make the perfect wives and partners.

I'm guessing a female INTP and a male ISFJ/ISTJ would not work well for obvious reasons, so maybe the male INTP and female ISFJ/ISTJ pairing has more to do with gender roles than MBTI.

I'm attracted to I/ENFPs although a strong E preference would wear me out, and I'm repulsed by I/ENTJs.

[walfin]

I'm guessing a female INTP and a male ISFJ/ISTJ would not work well for obvious reasons
ISTJ is possible and could work. ISFJ...is probably not as common among men but seems quite acceptable too.

These marriages are more due to supply and demand than anything, since it's 70-30 T/F for men and the other way round for women. If all INTPs insisted on finding other NTPs the search would be far too difficult.


I'd like to hear an explanation of the ESTJ.
Actually I think the ESTJ would like it, and would think that the INTP liked it.

[jehosafats]

You resurrected a 3 year old thread to make that bad guess?

I'd like to hear an explanation of the ESTJ.

I didn't even realize the thread was that old. I just saw it being viewed on the "who's online". But anyway, I don't see why saying ESTJ is such a "bad guess". Perhaps an explanation of that is in order.

[kble]

and I'm repulsed by I/ENTJs.

Why?

[p0psicle]

Theoretically, ENTJ and ESTJ (Te dominant types to complete INTP's dominant Ti).

From my own experience, INFP, INTP, ENTP, ISTP, ISTJ (the ones with a less pronounced J).

The only types I've never managed to feel attracted to in any way are INTJ and ESFJ.

[Daaf]

For an INTP woman I reckon and ESTJ/P man that won't eat her bullshit might be quite refreshing
For an INTP male I reckon she needs to be kinky so Ne is a must, she should be quietish(I) so either Ti or Fi dominating, She needs to not be needy so no Fe/Si would help. Not to shallow either (Se).

Conclusion INFP or ENTP or INTP with INFJ ENTJ ISFJ/P not being ruled out. I don't think EST/FJ/P (Too daft or narrow minded) would go down well, nor INTJ (perhaps too exhausting, constantlty peppering you with questions, also perhaps a bit cold) ISTJ's (no) ISTP (mebbe, if you're both into addictive substances or mutual self destruction..)
ENFP (too popular) ENFJ (there's one thread here that ruined them for me something about us being ugly retatrds).

Most likely to be really hot amongst these "ideal" 3 types (from personal experience only..) is INFP.

[skip]

Why?

INTJ conversation is dominated by their insistence on being right to the exclusion of an exchange of ideas. They have the NT preferences so it seems like it's going to be a nice, analytical discussion but then their J kicks in and it turns into ,"I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I'M RIGHT, I'M RIGHT!" Once I saw a cartoon (Family Guy? I don't know, it was on at the gym) where there was a guy sitting on a couch with a donkey who sat there with its arms crossed and insisted Kevin Bacon wasn't in "Footloose," or denied some other commonly known movie fact like that. After a while the donkey started saying, "No, no, no, no, NO NO NO..." and then it just started braying. That's what a conversation with an INTJ is like. It's deceptive, rigid, boring and a waste of time. If I can't have a basic conversation with someone there's no way I'm going to be attracted to them. INTJs also use their J on others and rarely on themselves, and they tend to blame others.

ENTJs are "little generals." That in itself is enough, but if you need more: they see natural limitations in others as feigned weaknesses, they're bossy to the point of micromanaging others (or attempting to, anyway), dogmatic, childish, have enormous egos which blunt their perceptions of themselves and they're actually surprised when someone doesn't put up with their behavior (because they don't see it), they don't understand people who have needs different from their own, and assume their ideas are the only right ones... I could go on. ENTJs are vile.

[solemn sistah]

Theres a lot of threads on this, all saying different things.
Maybe the polls that have been done should be merged/and or put in one place to make it clearer because it seems every INTP has their own personal preference.

Perhaps it has more to do with personal experience and individualised needs as well as level of maturity etc.
A person with an overly strong J might not match well with another strong J, compared to someone who has become more balanced in their functions with maturity and can mix with both P and J happily. Or someone with very strong P would find a J a bit too heavyhanded.
If an INTP resents sensors or extroverts it might have less to do with type but more to do with subjective reasons particular to the individual.

[karenk]

Actually I think the ESTJ would like it, and would think that the INTP liked it.


I saw a archetypal ESTJ genuinely get along with an INTP. When they were together the INTP seemed like the most boring person where you wouldn't want to interact with him. It was quite shocking. ha. Then they seemed to not get along, but after a long while. Then they get along again until their differences arise and they back off. Freaks! :p

[Dark Razor]

INTJ conversation is dominated by their insistence on being right to the exclusion of an exchange of ideas. They have the NT preferences so it seems like it's going to be a nice, analytical discussion but then their J kicks in and it turns into ,"I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I'M RIGHT, I'M RIGHT!" Once I saw a cartoon (Family Guy? I don't know, it was on at the gym) where there was a guy sitting on a couch with a donkey who sat there with its arms crossed and insisted Kevin Bacon wasn't in "Footloose," or denied some other commonly known movie fact like that. After a while the donkey started saying, "No, no, no, no, NO NO NO..." and then it just started braying. That's what a conversation with an INTJ is like. It's deceptive, rigid, boring and a waste of time. If I can't have a basic conversation with someone there's no way I'm going to be attracted to them. INTJs also use their J on others and rarely on themselves, and they tend to blame others.


Well, we are right until you prove us wrong, if you can't do that then you were probably wrong in the first place. It also seems that you may need to de-sissify yourself.

[karenk]

INTJ conversation is dominated by their insistence on being right to the exclusion of an exchange of ideas. They have the NT preferences so it seems like it's going to be a nice, analytical discussion but then their J kicks in and it turns into ,"I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I'M RIGHT, I'M RIGHT!"

You may have mistyped these people as INTJs. Your description sounds very SJ imo.

[skip]

These people (http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ_per.html) would disagree. "INTJs may believe that they're always right, may quickly dismiss input from others without really considering it, may apply their judgment more often towards others, rather than towards themselves..." etc.

[karenk]

These people (http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ_per.html) would disagree. "INTJs may believe that they're always right, may quickly dismiss input from others without really considering it, may apply their judgment more often towards others, rather than towards themselves..." etc.


That's when all the functions only serve to support Ni and it's completely unbalanced. INFJs have similar problems when everything is serving Ni.

[skip]

Uytuun didn't ask what was balanced. She ask me what repulsed me about them.

[Ferrus]

INFPs seems perfect till you get to know them.

[kble]

INTJ conversation is dominated by their insistence on being right to the exclusion of an exchange of ideas. They have the NT preferences so it seems like it's going to be a nice, analytical discussion but then their J kicks in and it turns into ,"I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I'M RIGHT, I'M RIGHT!" Once I saw a cartoon (Family Guy? I don't know, it was on at the gym) where there was a guy sitting on a couch with a donkey who sat there with its arms crossed and insisted Kevin Bacon wasn't in "Footloose," or denied some other commonly known movie fact like that. After a while the donkey started saying, "No, no, no, no, NO NO NO..." and then it just started braying. That's what a conversation with an INTJ is like. It's deceptive, rigid, boring and a waste of time. If I can't have a basic conversation with someone there's no way I'm going to be attracted to them. INTJs also use their J on others and rarely on themselves, and they tend to blame others.

Izz you blaming the INTJ for your failed interactions? :whistle:

I'm more prone to thinking "you're wrong" than "I'm right", really. I think our "thinking we're right" in fact stems from the fact that we know that we can't know. That "the truth" is essentially unknowable and relative and we play devil's advocate with the other person to show them that, that his idea isn't the only possible one. Our very own brand of paradoxical omniscience. I can see how it can come across as arrogant. And how it is limited. And how many INTJs aren't aware of the fact that they are doing it. If that's what they're doing in the first place.

I don't like debate, I much prefer cooperative discussion that leads to new levels or areas of understanding.

I don't try to control others if that's what you mean by using the J, I do however need to have control over my life.

I'm quick to scold myself for blaming other people (in my mind) when really it's my own "fault" - this doesn't seem very INTJ-ish.

Oh well, we can be annoying for sure - ok, and I now see you were talking about unbalanced specimens (although that didn't seem to be the case in your first post), those can be extremely annoying.

With regard to communications between INTJs and INTPs, it seems like we focus on different things sometimes. I'm reminded of my INTJ professor who was completely and spontaneously fascinated by the fact that student x had used quotation marks around a certain word in his answer to a linguistic problem. To him the unconscious reason for putting "" was the natural point of focus, much less the logical validity of the answer the student had come up with. INTPs, at least from my experience, would be more interested in the implications of the answer itself.

[skip]

Izz you blaming the INTJ for your failed interactions?

No. I answered your question about what repulsed me about INTJs.

[edge walker]

Izz you blaming the INTJ for your failed interactions?

No. I answered your question about what repulsed me about INTJs.
Let me rephrase. :devil:

Does the answer you did give about why you dislike INTJs imply that your dislike stems from assigning blame for your failed communication to the INTJs?

See, no one is doubting that you answered her question. ;)

[skip]

Does the answer you did give about why you dislike INTJs imply that your dislike stems from assigning blame for your failed communication to the INTJs?

That's assuming there's a failed communication. If there is a failure, it's in the braying.

[lemons]

according socionics, ENFP.

Socionics doesn't say ENFP, it says ESFP. In which I disagree with both.

Since INTPs are phlegmatics they will do the best with others that are phlegmatic. But there are some deciding factors...

I can't say INFP would be suitable because they're too phlegmatic. To each his own. The personality definitely can not have Sanguine, because it clashes with INTPs Choleric. Melancholic however doesn't clash with Phlegmatic if the match of personality is Phlegmatic to begin with, which then proves that their Phlegmatic side downplays their Melancholic side just a bit, giving us INTPs quite a break. Because of INTPs quite "mixed" temperament style (Phleg-Chol), they will highly prefer and do better with Js. Chol-chol (ENTJ) works because there's no clashing. Personalities that I found to be the most suitable are:

ISFJ
ENTJ
ENFJ

other choices:
INTP
INFP
INFJ

The question was which do we find most attractive? I find ISFJs most attractive mainly because they're phlegmatic and I also love melancholic folks, and ISFJs fit into the logical/theoretical aspect of this analysis. They are the only Phlegmatic that really works for the INTP, because the other two choices are mainly Choleric. ISFJ all the way. They are usually deep thinkers, caring individuals, willing friends, and loyal companions. They don't do well under pressure.


Well said. I am married to an ISFJ and we are very happy together ... despite not being a perfect MBTI match. What MBTI has done for us is give us an understanding of why the other does what he or she does. It has smoothed over a lot of potential issues by helping us understand that it is only our nature, rather than being done just to piss off the other.


interesting I am engaged to an ISFJ

And do you both notice? According to my theory, ISFJ is the only Guardian type that works like this for INTP.



For all personalities, I find these are the best matches. This can't be from experience but only this theory, so this is just a thesis:

INTJ: INFJ, ENTJ, ESTJ
INFJ: INTJ, ISTP, ISFJ
INTP: ENFJ, ISFJ, ENTJ
INFP: INFP, ENFP, ENFJ
ENTJ: ENTJ, INTP, INTJ
ENFJ: ESTJ, ESTP, INFP
ENTP: ENFP, ESFJ, ESTP
ENFP: ENTP, INFP, ISFP
ISTJ: ISTJ, ESFJ, ESTJ
ISFJ: INTP, ISFP, INFJ
ISTP: ESFJ, INFJ, ESFP
ISFP: ESFP, ISFJ, ENFP
ESTJ: ESTP, INTJ, ISTJ
ESFJ: ISTP, ISTJ, ENTP
ESTP: ESTJ, ENFJ, ENTP
ESFP: ISTP, ESFP, ISFP


Let me rephrase. :devil:

Does the answer you did give about why you dislike INTJs imply that your dislike stems from assigning blame for your failed communication to the INTJs?

See, no one is doubting that you answered her question. ;)

If any INTP disliked an INTJ for their personality, it would most likely have to do with the INTJs perfectionist tendency (melancholy) that so far has not yielded him any benefit.

When working on a project with my INTJ friend, I said to her, don't you think you're being too much of a perfectionist with this? And she said, I just want it be perfect. And I said... yeah... hmm.

[rainfall]

Using it three years after the show became unpopular and expecting to sound clever is like doing the macarena at a club and expecting to look cool.


Drats!

[kble]

INTJ: INFJ, ENTJ, ESTJ

I'm quick to go all WTF on you, but hey, maybe it's denial.

[Curtis24]

ESFJ? INFJ?

INTP should, according to the laws of genetics. People prefer most of all those who have genes or personalities similar to their own. This is because of the simple principle that it is easier to raise a child who has a personality similar to your own.

Also, statistically valid surveys on the MBTI reveal people are most likely to marry those of the same type. Despite all that nonsense about 'extraverted such and such function' being most attracted to 'introverted such and such function'.

[lemons]

I'm quick to go all WTF on you, but hey, maybe it's denial.

Ahhh. It was complex to come up with those results, but it's all theoretical. If I were an INTJ I would trust to give this theory some trial. Or maybe I don't know what I would think at the moment if I were an INTJ, and certainly not this. Yeah. That's it.

So go down the list.

INFJ... Why/Why not?
ENTJ... Why/Why not?
ESTJ... Why/Why not?

Or maybe you don't want to think about it. I certainly don't not want to.

[Dark Razor]

Ahhh. It was complex to come up with those results, but it's all theoretical. If I were an INTJ I would trust to give this theory some trial. Or maybe I don't know what I would think at the moment if I were an INTJ, and certainly not this. Yeah. That's it.

So go down the list.

INFJ... Why/Why not?
ENTJ... Why/Why not?
ESTJ... Why/Why not?

Or maybe you don't want to think about it. I certainly don't not want to.

I think I would prefer ENTP, ENFP or INFP over any of the EJs, though I wouldn't rule them out of course, depends on the person.

[Miguel11]

The types most atractive to me (not necessarly to the INTPs as a whole) are INFP and ISFJ.

[kble]

Ahhh. It was complex to come up with those results, but it's all theoretical. If I were an INTJ I would trust to give this theory some trial. Or maybe I don't know what I would think at the moment if I were an INTJ, and certainly not this. Yeah. That's it.

So go down the list.

INFJ... Why/Why not?
ENTJ... Why/Why not?
ESTJ... Why/Why not?

Or maybe you don't want to think about it. I certainly don't not want to.

Well, I can't say no now, can I? :p

I haven't had a relationship with any of these types AFAI (which says something), though perhaps with an ExTx, not particularly successful, but we were young and yada yada.

INFJ (only know closely in the female version): not necessarily controlling, but tends to have low self-esteem, needs a lot of affirmation, tends to have a lot of walls themselves, rather gloomy, a bit on the depressive side sometimes, take stuff personally...can't imagine a lot of spark there [Limey can correct me here]. I think I would be at a loss of how to deal with their deep emotional needs. The relationship with my friend *is* remarkably effortless, so I imagine there would be an ample amount of understanding.

ENTJ (don't know closely): Seems like a power struggle might occur. More spark, but less pleasant modus vivendi, I'd think. I'm not Te heavy myself, so I'd probably find it annoying to see Ni obscured (to my mind then) by so much Te. My preferred match out of the three if I have to choose.

ESTJ (don't know closely): :mellow: I'm highly N and weird and all, perhaps this might work for more Te-oriented INTJs. What's your reason for picking ESTJ? Ah, wait, I do know one, not closely, but I think we can talk about mutual suspicion (although there is respect what with Te).

For natural spark, at least in my case, N(F)P seems more likely than any kind of J (possibly even STPs over J). If you're talking about compatibility and stuff, perhaps a J would be easier to live with in some ways, I'm messy, but I do like to have certain things planned.


I keep theory out of my love-life, Fi is in there doing its thing.

Your INTP matches seem more plausible.

[Benzebub]

I have quite limited experience but my last working relationship was with an INFJ and it lasted about 3 years. I dated a fellow INTP this summer and it did not work out at all.

[Joystick]

I had two major relationships: the one was ENFJ and it was a complete disaster.

The other was an ESTJ and it was better than the ENFJ, but still quite a disaster.

I have to admit that I enjoyed more the ENFJ, but I appreciated more the ESTJ

There has never been a chance to be with an INTP, he would be a very good friend, I suppose, but not a successful relationship.
:think: :think: But still, I am not sure.

[kble]

Your name is joystick. There is a chance.

[nonperson]

Somebody who knows nothing about MBTI.

[Eric B]

Socionics doesn't say ENFP, it says ESFP. In which I disagree with both.

Since INTPs are phlegmatics they will do the best with others that are phlegmatic. But there are some deciding factors...

I would think that would be in the area of conation (NT vs SP) only. In Interaction Style, a Sanguine (ESF/ENP) is fine to me, because they are ultimately friendly and inviting, though the drawback is that their need for attention and high strung-ness can get on your nerves. ENTP is Sanguine-Choleric, so they'll be competitive as well as expressive. In actuality, Cholerics clash the most with other Cholerics, because they want things their own way. Phlegmatic is good at handling the Choleric, though the Choleric might get annoyed at their stubbornness.

I can't say INFP would be suitable because they're too phlegmatic. To each his own. The personality definitely can not have Sanguine, because it clashes with INTPs Choleric.
Melancholic however doesn't clash with Phlegmatic if the match of personality is Phlegmatic to begin with, which then proves that their Phlegmatic side downplays their Melancholic side just a bit, giving us INTPs quite a break. They clash with Choleric, though, when the Choleric crosses their boundaries. (like being pragmatic and following Ne/Ti, where the Melancholy is guided by Si and wants familiarity. The INJ's also won't like the Ne either.).


Because of INTPs quite "mixed" temperament style (Phleg-Chol), they will highly prefer and do better with Js. Chol-chol (ENTJ) works because there's no clashing. Again, Cholerics will clash, and the ENTJ, being the "pure" Choleric, will be more effective in pushing his way. From the cognitive perspective, that type is totally in our shadow (8 function theory. Take the same four functions, and reverse the attitudes!) Their dominant Te is our "opposing personality". With me, other J's get on my nerves, simply because of the J/P conflict. They want order and schedule for everything. And then, they criticize and hound us like we're breaking some universal rule or something.



Personalities that I found to be the most suitable are:

ISFJ
ENTJ
ENFJ

other choices:
INTP
INFP
INFJ

The question was which do we find most attractive? I find ISFJs most attractive mainly because they're phlegmatic and I also love melancholic folks, and ISFJs fit into the logical/theoretical aspect of this analysis. They are the only Phlegmatic that really works for the INTP, because the other two choices are mainly Choleric. ISFJ all the way. They are usually deep thinkers, caring individuals, willing friends, and loyal companions. They don't do well under pressure.
And do you both notice? According to my theory, ISFJ is the only Guardian type that works like this for INTP. They seem pretty nice. Si is dominant, but then they are not as high strung as their E counterpart.

ENFJ's, I don't know much about, though they are Choleric socially, so they might be both high strung, as well as more "directive", unlike the SanMel ESFJ. Fe, while our aspirational, will get on our nerves when used beyond a certain amount. Then, for both ENJ's, you have the Ni, which is the INTP's "witch" function. (Even though all the INTP's taking the CP test besides me, score high in it. So maybe you have higher tolerance of it. It's lowest for me).



For all personalities, I find these are the best matches. This can't be from experience but only this theory, so this is just a thesis:

INTJ: INFJ, ENTJ, ESTJ
INFJ: INTJ, ISTP, ISFJ
INTP: ENFJ, ISFJ, ENTJ
INFP: INFP, ENFP, ENFJ
ENTJ: ENTJ, INTP, INTJ
ENFJ: ESTJ, ESTP, INFP
ENTP: ENFP, ESFJ, ESTP
ENFP: ENTP, INFP, ISFP
ISTJ: ISTJ, ESFJ, ESTJ
ISFJ: INTP, ISFP, INFJ
ISTP: ESFJ, INFJ, ESFP
ISFP: ESFP, ISFJ, ENFP
ESTJ: ESTP, INTJ, ISTJ
ESFJ: ISTP, ISTJ, ENTP
ESTP: ESTJ, ENFJ, ENTP
ESFP: ISTP, ESFP, ISFP

If any INTP disliked an INTJ for their personality, it would most likely have to do with the INTJs perfectionist tendency (melancholy) that so far has not yielded him any benefit. Melancholy, socially, and then intensified with the Choleric determination.


When working on a project with my INTJ friend, I said to her, don't you think you're being too much of a perfectionist with this? And she said, I just want it be perfect. And I said... yeah... hmm. Well, for them, that's part of their J preference as well.

I just took the Jung test at Similar Minds, and came out Actualized: INTP, Preferred: ENTJ, Attracted: ENFP. That makes sense, as the way life is, ENTJ has the "power" that I as a fellow NT seek, yet I'm not one, and the type is a big clash. ENFP's on the other hand, are smart, yet more "light and airy" and open ended than all the SJ's in my environment. I'm not sure if I could have been married to one (perhaps some of them, depending on what their Fi values are), but I like talking to them, and wished I could have dated one. With the Ne in common, we "see things the same way", at least.

[hegotgenius]

Well, I love ESFs. Maybe it's a "dumb blonde" quality that they have that I like, but also the fact the even if they do have that quality, they tend to look for/at the best in people.

I just love women who come across as if they are great to "live with," which is why I'm envious of the man whose married to the ESFP that I work with. Great carefree, positive, playful attitude = fun.

I'm sure Julie Bowen is also an "ESF" of some sort (http://www.teeveegirlee.net/wp-admin/images/julie_bowen.jpg). When I first saw this woman's playful, wide-eyed disposition on Boston Legal, I melted. She did one court case on the show where she started crying, and I cried, which is something that is VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO. Just her tearing up brought it out of me, just like the ESFP woman that I work with can penetrate my seriousness.

Don't know what it is, but it's appealing to me.

Tina Fey also has that "great to live with" quality about her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJdRFSPL5Pw). She seems to be more of an INF(P or J) type, though. But, still has that "playfulness."

It's the attitude. I'm just a sucker for an overly positive one.

[Curtis24]

People are attracted to personalities similar to their own.

[MerlinaAddams]

No way. Like repels like. INTP women are WAY too bitchy. I've never slapped a woman, but an INTP woman would probably drive me to, with their incessant bitching.

What makes you say we're bitchy? I thought INTP women were pretty submissive in general

[Andantino]

ENTJs are "little generals." That in itself is enough, but if you need more: they see natural limitations in others as feigned weaknesses, they're bossy to the point of micromanaging others (or attempting to, anyway), dogmatic, childish, have enormous egos which blunt their perceptions of themselves and they're actually surprised when someone doesn't put up with their behavior (because they don't see it), they don't understand people who have needs different from their own, and assume their ideas are the only right ones... I could go on. ENTJs are vile.


How many female ENTJs have you known in real life? How many males?

[edge walker]

What makes you say we’re bitchy? I thought INTP women were pretty submissive in general
I think I would put it this way: INTPs are easy to push around but impossible to bend. Just how assertive an INTP is as a general rule will vary from one to the next, of course, but the unbending quality unites us. It seems clear to me that for confident INTP women with some general assertiveness this could easily combine to perceived or even real bitchiness. This is amplified by a no-nonsense approach to feelings, so an INTP woman being hit on by someone she doesn’t care for is generally going to be a party pooper.

So yeah, I can see why someone could draw from their experience that INTP women are bitchy.

I have to say that for me, it’s a wash. INTPs are a bit like cats: sometimes it’s hard to see that we care, even when we care deeply, and we can be a pretty cold bunch. On the other hand we do care and we are undemanding and easy going. So a double INTP pairing will have challenges but also upsides. Oh yeah, and we tend to have a high sexual appetite with willingness to experiment, so INTP/INTP couples should work very well in that regard.

The first girl I fell in love with was INTJ (madly, and she drove me mad – mostly in a good way, but also in a bad, and it couldn’t work out), and the second was INFP. But then, almost all of the women I made friends with online turned out to be INTPs. (Half a dozen of them! This seriously boggles my mind, since I never went looking for INTPs. They just all turned out to be INTP afterwards.)

[Curtis24]

How many female ENTJs have you known in real life? How many males?

I know one in real life, a man, a therapist. He's controlling, but subtly so. He'll be friendly, getting you to confide in him, offering advice. Then slowly take over your life.

[Andantino]

I know one in real life, a man, a therapist. He's controlling, but subtly so. He'll be friendly, getting you to confide in him, offering advice. Then slowly take over your life.

Lovely. Geez.

[Curtis24]

I guess that's not emblematic of most ENTJs. But if we can't associate a group of negative characteristics with each type, it sort of defeats the purpose of the MBTI, doesn't it? ;)

[Daaf]

Hmm I Still reckon the less Narcissistic INTPs should fit well with ENTJ, or ESTJ theory being INTP dreams up a scheme, but doesn't implement, the ENTJ or ESTJ pushes the INTP (whether it likes it or not) to make the dream (plan is probably more accurate) a reality, giving the INTP both validation (once it's completed) and purpose..

On the flip side the INTP helps the ESTJ accept that there are bigger things at work than they could ever fathom, and that life is filled with mystery and adventure not just work.

The INTP helps the ENTJ realise that life at too fast a pace makes you miss the view, and that the journey is as important as the destination (if not more so)

It's complimentary relationships filled with conflict (but thinkers SHOULD be FINE with conflict) Bringing out the best in each other and being able to deal with the worst.. The fuel of such a relationship would have to be physical attraction, since these personalities wouldn't "hit it off" otherwise, or perhaps a colleague to colleague thing where through various work situations they both realised merit in the other's way of thinking...

[Adymus]

Like repels like.

Then it's a good thing we INTPs don't belong to any forums meant for inter-INTP social exchange.

[Corbin]

According to Keirsey, it is supposed to be ENFJ. Identical N for the communication commonality, and the rest opposite to complement. I'm not sure if I believe that. E's usually burn me out to the point that I do not want to be with them after a while. I've found INFJ and INFP to be a good match for me. Of course, I ended up with an ISFJ.

Oh Em Gee, im dating an ENFJ. :wub:


But the real answer you ask? INTPs (both male and female) are attracted to nicely shapen b00bz.

[Andantino]

The INTP helps the ENTJ realize that life at too fast a pace makes you miss the view, and that the journey is as important as the destination (if not more so)



:mellow: Agreed.


Damn.

[shadow1986]

All of them,

because we're awesome...



^don't ever, ever, doubt the above statement

[shadow1986]

How many female ENTJs have you known in real life? How many males?

I've met a few female ENTJs. They're out there, they seem to have it all, but are pretty lonely.

[Andantino]

but are pretty lonely.

In short, yes. The trick is to simply stay busy.

[edge walker]

In short, yes. The trick is to simply stay busy.
I don't know who that trick is tricking though. Seems to me that it'll only result in more of the same.

[Lauren Ashley]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

[carbon cold]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

...No.

[edge walker]

No.

[YHWH]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

Being dominated is my major phobia.

[Llewellyn]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

There can be a secret truth in this. Sort of love-hate relationship on this. Although I also think: no.

As for types, in the past (earlier youth) I've mainly been attracted to (what I guess, in retrospect, were) ENFPs, the more 'decent kind of girl', although also a bit aloof. Later, around age 20, I have been attracted to ISFP (2 of them). Until now it hasn't come to anything yet, mainly I think because of my own feeling, which is now turning ok again. Although I've had this troublesome (though also very supportive, but oversupportive) friendship with this INFJ, I still think, in the case of a girl, I would be attracted. ISFJ is often attractive too, and I guess ESFP can be so as well. Almost all types are possibilities I guess.

[Andantino]

I don't know who that trick is tricking though. Seems to me that it'll only result in more of the same.

Myself, mainly. ENTJ loneliness is a different sort of breed. Once you realize its depth, breadth and challenges that would have to be overcome (some of which are simply out of your control), it's best to just ignore it. :yes:

[MacGuffin]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

lol, no. Most hate it.

[Isagel]

Hmm I Still reckon the less Narcissistic INTPs should fit well with ENTJ, or ESTJ theory being INTP dreams up a scheme, but doesn't implement, the ENTJ or ESTJ pushes the INTP (whether it likes it or not) to make the dream (plan is probably more accurate) a reality, giving the INTP both validation (once it's completed) and purpose..

On the flip side the INTP helps the ESTJ accept that there are bigger things at work than they could ever fathom, and that life is filled with mystery and adventure not just work.

The INTP helps the ENTJ realise that life at too fast a pace makes you miss the view, and that the journey is as important as the destination (if not more so)

It's complimentary relationships filled with conflict (but thinkers SHOULD be FINE with conflict) Bringing out the best in each other and being able to deal with the worst.. The fuel of such a relationship would have to be physical attraction, since these personalities wouldn't "hit it off" otherwise, or perhaps a colleague to colleague thing where through various work situations they both realised merit in the other's way of thinking...

I have no experience with ENTJs but when it comes to ESTJs I agree completely.

[Lauren Ashley]

lol, no. Most hate it.

Just wanted to see how the responses would be phrased. I knew the answer would be a huge, resounding, "NO."

[V Profane]

The types with big boobs.

[Delilah]

The types with big boobs.

Sadly. No.

[LastRailway]

Some J type.

Don't all INTPs secretly (or not so secretly) like to be dominated?

No freaking way and no.

Some P type, preferably TP.

[outmywindow]

The types with big boobs.
Sweet!

Sadly. No.
Awwww darn it.

[Works]

No freaking way and no.

Some P type, preferably TP.

I don't mind the Js.

[Delilah]

Awwww darn it.

I know.

:hug:

We need to look into cloning (hot) INTP males who have a preference for big breasted (and snarky) INTP females. We won't make much money, but we'll be too busy getting groped to care.

Think about it.

[Eli]

We need to look into cloning (hot) INTP males who have a preference for big breasted (and snarky) INTP females. We won't make much money, but we'll be too busy getting groped to care.

Think about it.

:horror: You want to clone Mac?!

[Delilah]

:horror: You want to clone Mac?!

BITE YOUR TONGUE!


I said hot INTP men!

He is going 0 for 3 there.....

[Eli]

BITE YOUR TONGUE!


I said hot INTP men!

He is going 0 for 3 there.....


Ha! I should read more carefully. I saw big breasted and groped and Mac came to mind.

[Delilah]

Ha! I should read more carefully. I saw big breasted and groped and Mac came to mind.

I can see that. He is a titty groping whore.

[edge walker]

Some P type, preferably TP.
Better not run out of TP, always a nuisance.

[LastRailway]

Better not run out of TP, always a nuisance.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

[MacGuffin]

*gropes thread*

[Delilah]

*shudders. Steps out of thread, directly into the decontamination chamber*


*flays skin off of body*


*proceeds to consume mass quantities*

[MacGuffin]

*proceeds to consume mass quantities*

You'll have to give me some time to recover woman!

[Delilah]

You'll have to give me some time to recover woman!

*cracks whip*

You will do what I say, when I tell you.

[MacGuffin]

*cracks whip*

You will do what I say, when I tell you.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm...

No.

[Delilah]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm...

No.

Awwwwww.

You're so cute when you pretend you have a say in it.

[MacGuffin]

Awwwwww.

You're so cute when you pretend you have a say in it.

:)

[edge walker]

And thus begins MacG's charming of Delilah.

[Delilah]

And thus begins MacG's charming of Delilah.

Gross.

You're on my list now.

[edge walker]

I just calls 'em as I sees 'em, don' shoot da messenger, m'am.

[Delilah]

If I shoot, you will know it.

Besides, he fails at charm, so I am perfectly safe.

[kble]

Myself, mainly. ENTJ loneliness is a different sort of breed. Once you realize its depth, breadth and challenges that would have to be overcome (some of which are simply out of your control), it's best to just ignore it. :yes:

I *was* ignoring it. Thanks for reminding me. :p

[Audio]

attractive? any xSFx Opposites attract that's pretty obvious. The only reason some of us might not think this is attractive, is because we act on what we think, not on our senses. so in a way, no.. but before the knowledge myers brigs gave us, yes.

Soulmate for me personally, ENTJ.. all theory though, not a man with a lot of skeletons in my closet.

Reasons: you can connect on a very high mental level with NT. Extraverted personality is key to getting out of our caves and doing something with our lives. None of us know wtf we want to do with our lives career wise, but the answer to that is we will never know what we want to do with our lives. Personally, i have come to this conclusion and realized my way of thinking is self destructive. Having a TJ to guide me is only more help. Sometimes we need to make a conclusion before we over analyze things.

I think a ENTJ "bossy attitude" is what an INTP needs. When there is conflict between the INTP and the ENTJ the intp needs to learn how to express his "final conclusion" as to why something isn't going to work, sometimes INTPs induldge on the bad and don't consider the positive(all the possibilities 'iN'). If you can't give the ENTJ a reason why something isn't going to work, chances are you probably aren't convincing enough. You've overthought a subject matter and indulged on the negative side of things. Lay the facts out on the table, the ENTJ can put them together and decide if its whiney bullshit or real shit. ENTJs are the richest type for a reason. we are not all knowing. I think people who are into INFJ are probably a little of the following.
A) stubborn (possibly some J)
B) feed their IT to much and don't use their eN
C) Have a heavy feeler side with a thinker preference.
D) slight mix of B and C.

[A Schnitzel]

attractive? any xSFx Opposites attract that's pretty obvious. The only reason some of us might not think this is attractive, is because we act on what we think, not on our senses.

I don't know, my senses have said very different things than that.

[Audio]

I don't know, my senses have said very different things than that.

Thing is you don't have senses, you have introverted thinking.

[A Schnitzel]

Thing is you don't have senses, you have introverted thinking.

How did you know that I'm blind? My hearing and sense of smell is going to go any day now. Once I become more INTP, I will stop tasting my food altogether.

[Audio]

How did you know that I'm blind? My hearing and sense of smell is going to go any day now. Once I become more INTP, I will stop tasting my food altogether.

mbti is a preference system, didn't think id have to explain that.... sorry, my expression wasn't up to INTP standards.

[euterpenc]

I think types with Fe would be most appealing since opposites attract. ESFJs can be rough though.

I think NFJs would be optimum. My girlfriend is an INFJ and I love her, and find her very fun, playful, and imaginative. I was immediately attracted to her Fe tendencies.

But that's just me.

[hegotgenius]

What types SHOULD be most attractive to INTPs?

Whatever they can't have in real life despite the personality type is what they are really attracted to.

They "should" be attracted to ENTPs.

[nullPointerException]

The ones with a pretty face and preferable body proportions?

[dennis44x]

The sad truth is that a lot of people go for whatever quality they can get. Yet I believe Keirsey's theory to be most accurate. And I think it's especially important for INTPs to have a xNFJ. But I have also been attracted to INFPs.

I was listening to one of the top attraction experts in the world the other day and he said that J and P was attracting each other. Which goes according to Keirsey's theory. His explanation was that Ps need a J to organize their life. He didn´t said anything about the other preferences.

[**life is...**]

The sad truth is that a lot of people go for whatever quality they can get. Yet I believe Keirsey's theory to be most accurate. And I think it's especially important for INTPs to have a xNFJ. But I have also been attracted to INFPs.

I was listening to one of the top attraction experts in the world the other day and he said that J and P was attracting each other. Which goes according to Keirsey's theory. His explanation was that Ps need a J to organize their life. He didn´t said anything about the other preferences.

Do you mind posting a link? I think that the theory of multiple intelligences definitely also plays a role in attraction.

[iksikaksi]

According to Keirsey, it is supposed to be ENFJ. Identical N for the communication commonality, and the rest opposite to complement. I'm not sure if I believe that. E's usually burn me out to the point that I do not want to be with them after a while. I've found INFJ and INFP to be a good match for me. Of course, I ended up with an ISFJ.

What is it with INTP men and ISFJ females!

My father is an INTP and my mother is an ISFJ and they have been married for 30+ years now.

O and by the way if you want a bitchier femal than an INTP female. Marry an ISFJ and she will criticize how disorganized you are and will continue yapping nonsence bullshit for hours.

[Tuuli]

Funny that xNFJ should be a good match, but it might even be true. My bestest best friend is ENFJ (very slightly E) and we get along very well. He likes me so much, he said he would even marry me just to have me around (I don't think that's going to work out though, as he's gay), but it's a comforting thought :) Funnily enough he says that I'm the only one who can really understand him. Actually I can't understand many things about him at all, I'm just a good listener and say "hmm" and "ok" at the right places. And another thing is that he's sooo emotional sometimes and comes to me crying about someone who hurt his feelings and I don't really know what to say. But one thing always works: I make him laugh at times he feels there's nothing to laugh about in the world :) So I guess this ENFJ is a good match for me, even if not in the very traditional way :D

[greenblob]

The sad truth is that a lot of people go for whatever quality they can get. Yet I believe Keirsey's theory to be most accurate. And I think it's especially important for INTPs to have a xNFJ. But I have also been attracted to INFPs.

I was listening to one of the top attraction experts in the world the other day and he said that J and P was attracting each other. Which goes according to Keirsey's theory. His explanation was that Ps need a J to organize their life. He didn´t said anything about the other preferences.
There's a difference between what you want and what you need.

What is it with INTP men and ISFJ females!

My father is an INTP and my mother is an ISFJ and they have been married for 30+ years now.

O and by the way if you want a bitchier femal than an INTP female. Marry an ISFJ and she will criticize how disorganized you are and will continue yapping nonsence bullshit for hours.
XSFJ is the most common MBTI type for women.

[liquidicy]

I think ENTJ is the best - she would make us do things and make sure they're done. We do things in theory but forget to implement them.

[Edge2070]

I am personally attracted to INTJ's, or ENTJ's, however I may also be potentially attracted to ENTP's as well. I like someone who can take the lead on a consensual basis, as well as one I can have a interesting discussion with.

[mortabunt]

ENFJ or ENFP. WE need an idealist type, as guardians will just crush our minds and guardians will destroy us with their incessant flirting.

[Timekiller]

You mean Artisans.

INTPs are a strange breed,and it usually depends on the person what kind of other people he/she likes. But I'd say that out of each group, the following are best suited for INTPs:

Artisans - ISTPs [neither of all of them are suitable,actually]
Guardians - ESTJs [don't get me started on the other types]
Idealists - XNFJs
Rationals - ENTXs



A) stubborn (possibly some J)
B) feed their IT to much and don't use their eN
C) Have a heavy feeler side with a thinker preference.
D) slight mix of B and C.

At least that explains why I dig INFJs myself.

[Lawless]

as for entjs:

one i know is a male and if we're in class and im taking a few moments to answer a question because i have to translate what i think into words, he jumps in. he doesnt do this to anyone else. he must die.

[A Schnitzel]

as for entjs:

one i know is a male and if we're in class and im taking a few moments to answer a question because i have to translate what i think into words, he jumps in. he doesnt do this to anyone else. he must die.

Ahh...

Love is in the air.

[Lawless]

Ahh...

Love is in the air.

*escapes out the window*

[Edge2070]

Someone who can make decisions.

[kali]

Someone who can make decisions.

Naturally we find ourselves repulsive. :sadbanana:

[Arntor]

I'd either pick ENFJ or INFJ, but INTJ and ENTP are attractive too. Still, my preference will lean towards what their interests are and what kind of world view we share.

My last relationship was with an IxFP and that lasted about nine months.:mellow:

[kali]

Attraction for me is 60% physical, 40% mental. Truth. MBTI type would be only 50% of the 40% mental.

So, all in all, MBTI accounts for only 20% of attraction for me. That being said, I like ENTJs.

[dennis44x]

There's a difference between what you want and what you need.


What you want is that what none logical parts of your brain need. So when I use the word need it can be on different levels. Yet I think the need of perceiver needs judger goes deeper than just on a logical level.