Give me what you got on ENTPs

[onceagain]

Its seems no matter how much I read about the types..people on this forum have additional information. So I am wondering if you INTPs and others share a little of what you know on ENTPs. Dont hold back!

[coffeezombie]

Um, they are like us but they enjoy hanging out with other people more.

[Nighthawk]

I have two ENTP friends who love to verbalize every idea that they have ... whereas I (and possibly more INTPs) keep a lot of them to myself. Since they verbalize a lot, and only act on a fraction of the ideas ... it sometimes gives them the appearance of talking a good game, but rarely accomplishing things that they propose. In reality, I think they just like to brainstorm out loud ... never intending to implement most of what they put forth.

[garak]

Yeah the ones I've known are constantly gushing with ideas. They can be viewed by some (especially the more "sensitive" types) as cocky and boarish.

[kendoiwan]

Nothing helpful. Just that I swear Jay-Z is one.

[Spartan26]

I know one at work. At times she seems rather INTPish but she's taken several tests. It's amazing how little affect or emotion she shows. Hard to read. I wonder is that how people always see me. I wish I knew more.

[sbw]

Nothing helpful. Just that I swear Jay-Z is one.

I'd buy this...and my little brother is an ENTP. it's difficult to hold him up as an example because he's only 18, but in comparison with myself...he's more socially adaptable, and DOES tend to verbalize EVERY idea that pops into his head. his living with me for the past few months might have increased my tendency along these lines.

Scott

[Serotonin]

Aggressively logical in my opinion. Enjoy parties, enjoy beer and socialising, but play the devil's advocate a lot. Will say exactly what they think about people: no niceties or saving graces. Can be prone to real anger and egoism sometimes. Have a raucous sense of humour: genuinely funny people.

I really like ENTPs.

[sbw]

serotonin nailed it. next topic.

Scott

[ChristiRB]

I have two ENTP friends who love to verbalize every idea that they have ... whereas I (and possibly more INTPs) keep a lot of them to myself. Since they verbalize a lot, and only act on a fraction of the ideas ... it sometimes gives them the appearance of talking a good game, but rarely accomplishing things that they propose. In reality, I think they just like to brainstorm out loud ... never intending to implement most of what they put forth.

Absolutely. In the romance department as well. Verbalize their feelings....verbalize their ideas- for places to go and things to do... verbalize their every thought and emotion...where they think they are headed, you're headed, you're both headed together. But they never follow through on a darn thing said. Frustrating really. :thelook:

[sbw]

Absolutely. In the romance department as well. Verbalize their feelings....verbalize their ideas- for places to go and things to do... verbalize their every thought and emotion...where they think they are headed, you're headed, you're both headed together. But they never follow through on a darn thing said. Frustrating really. :thelook:

christi how ARE you honey!

and I'd say it's only frustrating if you insist upon having expectations with regards to other humans (which I try very hard not to do).

Scott

[ChristiRB]

(((Scott))) Heya!

Hmmm...no expectations...just find them a little odd. I've learned just not to get carried away with them on their "ideas for the future". Sometimes I think they get more distracted than any other P type!

[sbw]

(((Scott))) Heya!

Hmmm...no expectations...just find them a little odd. I've learned just not to get carried away with them on their "ideas for the future". Sometimes I think they get more distracted than any other P type!

P types: include sitting and standing

Scott

[ChristiRB]

Heh. Cute.

[ChristiRB]

You know...my ENTP friend asked me on a date 2 weeks ago. He was so excited about it too! I told him sure, why not...but that I needed to see about my schedule. I finally gave him my schedule for this last week a week ago and I haven't heard from him since then. *shakes head*

[Seishi]

ohhh I love my ENTP friend! Mine is an excellent buffer for environments normally stressful to us INTPs, like crowded pub type restaurants... Also incredibly fun to bat ideas around with. But when I first met mine we did NOT like each other. I thought he was cocky, full of himself and brutish. He thought I was cold and bitchy. Both of us probably can be from time to time :whistle: But now we are very close friends and really feed off the other's energy. I like 'em.

[garak]

Mine is an excellent buffer for environments normally stressful to us INTPs, like crowded pub type restaurants...
Good way to put it, that is my experience too. They understand being analytical and weird, and they also understand being social and outgoing.

[waxwing]

You know...my ENTP friend asked me on a date 2 weeks ago. He was so excited about it too! I told him sure, why not...but that I needed to see about my schedule. I finally gave him my schedule for this last week a week ago and I haven't heard from him since then. *shakes head*
Ah, fear of The Schedule. Schedulophobia.

[ChristiRB]

Welllll....he needed to know when I was free so we could coordinate. Sheesh. I have to at least PLAN for spontaneity so it works! Heh.

[waxwing]

Welllll....he needed to know when I was free so we could coordinate. Sheesh. I have to at least PLAN for spontaneity so it works! Heh.
That's funny. He could have forgotten. He could be scared of commiting to a time/date. If he's anything like me, he probably was genuinely excited about the idea of a date, but lost excitement once the logistics came into play. I often kick myself for suggesting a date or a plan when I know that the next day I will change my mind or lose momentum to actually follow through with the idea. Or I will simply become distracted.

I'm not ENTP, but close. My order of functions resembles ENTP.

[ChristiRB]

Yeah...considering he has spent the last 9 years of our friendship professing his undying infatuation with me....and now I FINALLY say YES to a date! *laughs hysterically* ENTPs are crazy in their own cute and endearing way, but, as far as being more than friends...not in THIS lifetime. It's ok. I am in no way disappointed. His intensity scares me anyway.

[waxwing]

Yeah...considering he has spent the last 9 years of our friendship professing his undying infatuation with me....and now I FINALLY say YES to a date! *laughs hysterically* ENTPs are crazy in their own cute and endearing way, but, as far as being more than friends...not in THIS lifetime. It's ok. I am in no way disappointed. His intensity scares me anyway.
Ah, I see. I didn't realize you had such a history. Still, I can see myself doing something very similar. Look at my relationship track record, and you'd laugh your ass off.

I gather that you are drawn to ENTPs, but think they're not dating material?

I had a friend in college who is probably ENTP. I had a deep and strange love for him. We never dated each other. It probably would have been fun, but short-lived.

[ChristiRB]

No I am actually drawn to the mysterious introverted intuitive thinking types.

I like the playful perceiver AS WELL AS the dark and brooding Judger. So an INTx would be PERFECT for me actually. :)

[waxwing]

No I am actually drawn to the mysterious introverted intuitive thinking types.

I like the playful perceiver AS WELL AS the dark and brooding Judger. So an INTx would be PERFECT for me actually. :)
Interesting.

My brother is INTJ (weak T), but uninterested in romance at the moment.

[MasterMerk]

ENTPs are OK.

[nonsequitur]

ENTPs are OK.


:rolleyes:

INTPs are more than ok. :p

In my experience, ENTPs are very similar to myself, though they probably have fewer "people" issues. They're generally funny, though sometimes I could kick the more extreme Ps for being irresponsible. Quite a few of those whom I know have an even worse ADD problem than myself. At least, when I head off into dreamworld, others can't see it.. :ph34r:

[MacGuffin]

They are like us, only more annoying.

[Imen de Naars]

Absolutely. In the romance department as well. Verbalize their feelings....verbalize their ideas- for places to go and things to do... verbalize their every thought and emotion...where they think they are headed, you're headed, you're both headed together. But they never follow through on a darn thing said. Frustrating really. :thelook:

Probably they didn't like you that much :)

[ChristiRB]

Heh. That's OK. ^.^

[Imen de Naars]

Ops, I realize now that the previous post was a bit rude. I apologize.

[ChristiRB]

Haha! Naaaaaa. Don't worry about it. I tried to talk to him last night but he says he's been swamped with work. Couldn't get anything else of him other than he's going out of town next week.

You know...he probably IS really busy..or he just plain freaked out. :D *shrug*

[Lee]

ENTPs are made of sawdust and bubble gum.

[cjs55]

I met an (I think) ENTP kid at a party the other day. He was awesome, I think we talked for a good hour straight. If I (or he) had been female, I would have been in love with him (or her).

[sbw]

I met an (I think) ENTP kid at a party the other day. He was awesome, I think we talked for a good hour straight. If I (or he) had been female, I would have been in love with him (or her).

I love when that happens. it's so rare.

Scott

[SensEye]

You know...my ENTP friend asked me on a date 2 weeks ago. He was so excited about it too! I told him sure, why not...but that I needed to see about my schedule. I finally gave him my schedule for this last week a week ago and I haven't heard from him since then. *shakes head*He's all excited about going out with you and your response says: "Well, if I have nothing scheduled and I'm bored stiff, I guess I could spare you the time of day."

And then you are surprised he doesn't call? It's kind of hard to get enthusiastic about a girl when she ranks doing her vacuuming ahead of you.

[ChristiRB]

Hmmm...well...not exactly how it happened there bud.

[coffeezombie]

I met an (I think) ENTP kid at a party the other day. He was awesome, I think we talked for a good hour straight. If I (or he) had been female, I would have been in love with him (or her).

ENTPs are great until you really get to know them and they want you to go out all the time with them when you'd rather stay home.

[Imen de Naars]

ENTPs are great until you really get to know them and they want you to go out all the time with them when you'd rather stay home.


:rant: :rant: :rant: damned introverts who doesn't want to go out in winter when It's -10 and snowy and you cannot even take the car :rant: :rant:

[ChristiRB]

LOL! ^.^

[INTrPosr]

Its seems no matter how much I read about the types..people on this forum have additional information. So I am wondering if you INTPs and others share a little of what you know on ENTPs. Dont hold back!If you truly want to know about ENTPs, go to their message board atYahoo Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/entp/) or the The Inventors (http://www.entp.org/discuss/index.php) forum. Contrary to some of the above comments, ENTPs are not people oriented as may be believed. They are highly energetic, yet that energy does not have to be toward other people. In fact, there was a thread on the forum where many ENTPs (this one included) enjoy downtime and solitude. Extraversion does not equate to being people oriented or social butterflys. ENTPs will tell you that they may bounce their ideas off people, but may never discuss the other five in their head. ENTPs can be quite territorial (as you will see should you post). As ENTPs age, the need to debate wears thin, as does a need for change. They (like all NTs) are highly independent. I could say more but you can choose by observing them on their forums and message boards better.

[waxwing]

The NTP is enough to make a person a misfit, I think. Let's say an ENTP goes to a party -- the cliched extraverted activity. Being NT, doesn't she want to talk/think about subjects that most people aren't interested in? Along with that, the tendency towards ADD...she may be there, but not actually present.

I am flightier than many INTPs, I think. Perhaps I am an "introverted" ENTP, as has been suggested to me on a few occasions.

I realized a few months ago that I do not want to be a hermit. If I am alone for more than a day or two, I get restless, mostly because I lack external stimulation. Sometimes I am stimulated by just seeing random people, especially when I don't want to talk. Strangers passing by on a city street help me feel more like myself than people I know, but can't connect with. So, yes, I am probably an introvert, but can definitely relate to ENTPs on most points. On second thought, the tendency to be purposefully impressive (present in some ENTPs) is sort of foreign to me. I have no desire for fame.

I wonder if any ENTPs can comment on this point. Do you actually want to be impressive? Or are you simply impressive due to your expressiveness?

[INTrPosr]

....On second thought, the tendency to be purposefully impressive (present in some ENTPs) is sort of foreign to me. I have no desire for fame.
Dave Kelly of PTYPES says:
* Subdued demeanor. Persons of the Inventive type are energetic, but phlegmatic in temperament. "They can be quiet, rather private, subdued in demeanor, and have artistic interests and aesthetic sensibilities."

* Attention. Individuals of the Inventive type have a tendency to behave in such a way as to attract attention. "They can be subtle show-offs, but show-offs nonetheless."The two descriptions may appear contradictions, but I think ENTPs (especially with 3w4) can relate to both.

[waxwing]

Dave Kelly of PTYPES says:The two descriptions may appear contradictions, but I think ENTPs (especially with 3w4) can relate to both.Hmm....



* Subdued demeanor. Persons of the Inventive type are energetic, but phlegmatic in temperament. "They can be quiet, rather private, subdued in demeanor, and have artistic interests and aesthetic sensibilities."

* Attention. Individuals of the Inventive type have a tendency to behave in such a way as to attract attention. "They can be subtle show-offs, but show-offs nonetheless."
Makes sense. I've read parts of that site before, but you've made me want to take another look.

I can be like this on occasion. When I am in creative, high energy mode....then I become an inadvertant performer. The spontaneously written songs, the rhyming phrases, the subtle jokes, the weirdness expressed in a very confident manner (as opposed to remaining unexpressed), you know? At those moments, though, it's hard to hold back. However, I hate any slightest suggestion that I want attention or praise.

[Lee]

http://www.the16types.info/types-ENTP.php

[euterpenc]

They are clever and sneaky. Usually look out for themselves and their pleasure even if it costs someone else. Bastards.

[INTrPosr]

Hmm....Makes sense. I've read parts of that site before, but you've made me want to take another look.Actually Waxwing, what you quoted was not Kelly, but me. His quotes were in the quotations.

[waxwing]

Actually Waxwing, what you quoted was not Kelly, but me. His quotes were in the quotations.Yup. I somehow messed up with the brackets....let me fix that.

[INTrPosr]

They are clever and sneaky. Usually look out for themselves and their pleasure even if it costs someone else. Bastards.Clever and sneaky, hell yes. Looking out for ones self is definitely not ENTP, as they will share their last dime. As for pleasure, I agree. However, the only time we put anyone else at risk is our families, when we fail to follow throgh on things. Not consciously, but due to having too many irons in the fire. As for being a "bastard", I will have to consult with my parents and get back to you:whistle:. I did read that INTPs usually divorce more than any other type, which stands for something as for being selfish.

[Lee]

http://www.socionics.com/prof/entp.htm

Ha, I love this.

I am certainly a socionics ENTP

[waxwing]

During conversation ENTps like to play with objects, like a pen for example, often accidentally breaking it.
I am sort of known for doing this. It's either a pen, a rubber band (that snaps across the room), a napkin that I inadvertantly tear to pieces, or some important paper that I end up folding into some shape. Also, anything I can turn into a drum appeals to me. I'm a tapper.



ENTps do not know how to keep the right psychological distance with people. This becomes especially noticeable during long term interaction. One day they can be friendly and the next day they can be completely opposite. They often behave unceremoniously and can rudely butt in on others conversations. ENTps can also find it difficult to evaluate how others feel about them and therefore can make mistakes when choosing friends.
This could have a lot to do with my odd relationships. I've yet to hold onto a friend for many years.