pure energy

[Shai Gar]

Solid Mass -> Liquid Mass -> Gas Mass -> Pure Energy.

burn ice it turns into water, burn water until it turns into steam, heat that and it becomes pure energy.


i think that perhaps the same is true with the universe, we came from firament(P.E.) and formed backwards from gas to solid, and now we are heating up until we form a liquid that will eventually turn into a gas form of life and then finally return itself to the raw chaotic matter that is the firament we came from.

an endless cycle churning from pure energy, which exists because the ultimate is nothing, and in nothing is eventually everything, including the creative firament that started our minds

[panda]

Wrong.

[Shai Gar]

Die.

[panda]

To begin with, the energetic state after gas is plasma, not "pure energy."

Please define "pure energy" for me. I think you'll come into some problems.

[Shai Gar]

fine, so i forgot one state, proto-organic energy

[CoHo]

I don't know if I can answer this properly so here are the lyrics to Duran Duran's hit single "Girls on Film"

See them walking hand in hand across the bridge at midnight
Heads turning as the lights flashing out it's so bright
Then walk right out to the fourline track
There's a camera rolling on her back, on her back
And I sense the rhythm humming in a frenzy all the way down her spine

Girls on film, girls on film, girls on film, girls on film

Lipstick cherry all over the lens as she's falling
In miles of sharp blue water coming in where she lies
The diving man's coming up for air cause the crowd all love pulling dolly by the hair, by the hair
And she wonders how she ever got here as she goes under again

Girls on film (two minutes later), girls on film
Girls on film (got your picture), girls on film

Wider baby smiling you just made a million
Fuses pumping live heat twisting out on a wire
Take one last glimpse into the night I'm touching close I'm holding bright, holding tight
Give me shudders in a whisper take me up till I'm shooting a star

Girls on film (she's more than a lady), girls on film
Girls on film (two minutes later), girls on film
Girls on film (see you together), girls on film
Girls on film (see you later), girls on film
Girls on film (what ya doing), girls on film

[panda]

fine, so i forgot one state, proto-organic energy
"Proto-organic"? What exactly are you referring to?

[Shai Gar]

Die.

[kuranes]

Die.
LOL

[panda]

LOL
Yea, I was laughing pretty hard when I read SG's response.

[Shai Gar]

why aren't you dead :(

[panda]

why aren't you dead :(
Entropy hasn't caught up with me, yet. :(

[Google Monster]

hahahahaha

[last_caress]

Solid Mass -> Liquid Mass -> Gas Mass -> Pure Energy.

burn ice it turns into water, burn water until it turns into steam, heat that and it becomes pure energy.


i think that perhaps the same is true with the universe, we came from firament(P.E.) and formed backwards from gas to solid, and now we are heating up until we form a liquid that will eventually turn into a gas form of life and then finally return itself to the raw chaotic matter that is the firament we came from.

an endless cycle churning from pure energy, which exists because the ultimate is nothing, and in nothing is eventually everything, including the creative firament that started our minds

http://images2.deviantart.com/i/2003/51/9/0/Bunny_and_Pancake.jpg

[Google Monster]

Hahahahaha

[Shai Gar]

hahahahahahaha

[Shai Gar]

http://images2.deviantart.com/i/2003/51/9/0/Bunny_and_Pancake.jpg
that is a piklet not a pancake

[kuranes]

It's what's known as a "short stack" here in the states.

[Ascending]

Originally Posted by Shai Gar
Solid Mass -> Liquid Mass -> Gas Mass -> Pure Energy.

burn ice it turns into water, burn water until it turns into steam, heat that and it becomes pure energy.


i think that perhaps the same is true with the universe, we came from firament(P.E.) and formed backwards from gas to solid, and now we are heating up until we form a liquid that will eventually turn into a gas form of life and then finally return itself to the raw chaotic matter that is the firament we came from.

an endless cycle churning from pure energy, which exists because the ultimate is nothing, and in nothing is eventually everything, including the creative firament that started our minds
Define: Pure energy
Define: Firament
Define: creative firament

Technicaly, theoreticly, and off the top of my head I suppose you could heat steam enough to induce fusion; however I don't think it would be the idea material.

I remember this picture from a 8th or so grade science book and a quick google brought it out of the depths of memory for me. I believe if memory serves that they are attempting to heat some material with several extremely powerful lasers to the point of inducing fusion.
http://europa.eu.int/comm/research/fusion/expo/nova.jpg

Actualy many people would find it interesting to know that we already can produce fusion. Whats more is that it can be done at home in the DIY fasion by building it farnsworth style. http://fusor.net/

This link will show you a photo of the actual process occuring. Quite spectacular to see, like building your own star.
http://www.fusor.net/board/getfile.php?bn=fusor_images&att_id=1867

[Shai Gar]

Define: Pure energy
Define: Firament
Define: creative firament

Technicaly, theoreticly, and off the top of my head I suppose you could heat steam enough to induce fusion; however I don't think it would be the idea material.

I remember this picture from a 8th or so grade science book and a quick google brought it out of the depths of memory for me. I believe if memory serves that they are attempting to heat some material with several extremely powerful lasers to the point of producing fusion.
http://europa.eu.int/comm/research/fusion/expo/nova.jpg

fuck you, define them yourself, what colour is my skin? jesus christ.

[kuranes]

I read in a link I found on the long emergency thread that fusion energy was now more feasible using Deuterium.

[Ascending]

Previous post updated.

[Shai Gar]

"Technically" "theoretically"

[melancholeric]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[Claverhouse]

For you...


As to the physics lesson:

a/ you can't burn ice.

b/ they've been super-heating steam for ages. Starting off for locomotives in the 19th century and now for turbines and nuclear reactors.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Helios]

I don't know if I can answer this properly so here are the lyrics to Duran Duran's hit single "Girls on Film"

See them walking hand in hand across the bridge at midnight
Heads turning as the lights flashing out it's so bright
Then walk right out to the fourline track
There's a camera rolling on her back, on her back
And I sense the rhythm humming in a frenzy all the way down her spine

Girls on film, girls on film, girls on film, girls on film

Lipstick cherry all over the lens as she's falling
In miles of sharp blue water coming in where she lies
The diving man's coming up for air cause the crowd all love pulling dolly by the hair, by the hair
And she wonders how she ever got here as she goes under again

Girls on film (two minutes later), girls on film
Girls on film (got your picture), girls on film

Wider baby smiling you just made a million
Fuses pumping live heat twisting out on a wire
Take one last glimpse into the night I'm touching close I'm holding bright, holding tight
Give me shudders in a whisper take me up till I'm shooting a star

Girls on film (she's more than a lady), girls on film
Girls on film (two minutes later), girls on film
Girls on film (see you together), girls on film
Girls on film (see you later), girls on film
Girls on film (what ya doing), girls on film





that, ladies and gents is the coolest reply of all time!






*walks away singing*


The diving man's coming up for air cause the crowd all love pulling dolly by the hair, by the hair
And she wonders how she ever got here as she goes under again

[Madrigal]

http://images2.deviantart.com/i/2003/51/9/0/Bunny_and_Pancake.jpg

First time I ever laughed out loud while reading something off a forum. :lol:

[Shai Gar]

a/ you can't burn ice.
can so ;P



b/ they've been super-heating steam for ages. Starting off for locomotives in the 19th century and now for turbines and nuclear reactors.

that is heating steam, not changing its state

[Google Monster]

can so ;P


that is heating steam, not changing its state

Locomotives powered by steam changed states all the time back then. It really depends on how far the locomotive travels. :D

[nonsequitur]

Fusion is apparently possible in palladium electrodes using water, but that has yet to be verified. After the "Cold Fusion" fiasco in the late 80s, few people are willing to invest time and energy in something that most quantum phycists cannot explain.

[Shai Gar]

noone is interested in financing knowledge advancement, merely for the sake of knowledge? what travesty!

[nonsequitur]

The thing is that "cold fusion" could potentially take away the energy reliance on oil (if it exists and is viable). Oil companies were among the first parties that shot down the theory, among the physicists. However, there have been many unexplainable chemical results observed by different chemists around the world that cannot be explained by current quantum theory. Hence the physicists' extreme scepticism. However, in scientific papers published, it was reported that there was about 30% more output of energy than input, with increased concentrations of Helium 3 and 4 in the medium, which could indicate fusion in the palladium electrodes. There's really no other explanation currently available for this apart from fusion, but because of the fiasco during the 80s, there's a stigma attached to cold fusion and few government organisations are willing to finance such research.

[Shai Gar]

I STRINGENTLY AND EFFICIENTLY DEFY YOUR BASELESS "LOGIC" WOMAN!!!!!

AND MAY YOU BE DOOMED TO AN ETERNITY OF BUFFY AND ANGEL RERUNS!!!

[nonsequitur]

Heh. That would be in heaven, lol. (assuming that it exists, different plane of existence, i have self awareness, there is a dvd player blahblahblah)


PLACE HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS. :P

[Shai Gar]

heaven has joss whedon shows downloaded

[nonsequitur]

heaven has joss whedon shows downloaded

I'd imagine so. Hopefully in HDTV format.

[Shai Gar]

i was thinking in virtual reality format, totally intereactive...

i want to make out with evil willow

[nonsequitur]

Oh dear God (assuming that heaven exists, in which case God would exist) get that image out of my head.

heh i think i've derailed this thread enough.

*skips out humming*

[melancholeric]

PLACE HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS. :P
Redundant. This was classicifitinizied already.

[nonsequitur]

Redundant. This was classicifitinizied already.

:ph34r: apparently i forgot where i was reading the thread. :blush:

[mgb]

This was a good thread to have as a classic.

Someone should search for "black hat" and add all those ones as well.

Even better, Shai Gar should have his own classics forum. Just Shai Gar threads. I think he's earned it.

As for cold fusion, fascinating stuff. I was really into it in grade 11. Did you know there is enough heavy water in sea water to be able to drive a car across the US. Crazy.

Anyways, I believe the logic behind the theory is there is an energy wall you have to get over to create enough energy to initiate fusion. The cold fusion scientists explained their results by suggesting they went under the energy barrier to get to fusion land. I'm not sure if that's exactly what they ended up doing, but they did something.

Truthfully, we're up shit creek if something like that doesn't get off the ground in the next 20 years. I saw somewhere that one of the biggest crises that will result from the oil shortage is that farmers won't have fuel for their tractors. That will be a mess.

[Star Cannon]

You right, mgbrash. If the farmers can't farm... *trails off*:laser:


Since no one's attempted to define pure energy... I'll try.

Pure Energy-- the assuming it's the stuff that holds everything together and keeps the universe from falling apart because it's the base thingie for EVERYTHING. If we keep breaking things apart (starting at the atomic level) we'd eventually end up with pure energy.

[mgb]

You right, mgbrash. If the farmers can't farm... *trails off*:laser:


Since no one's attempted to define pure energy... I'll try.

Pure Energy-- the assuming it's the stuff that holds everything together and keeps the universe from falling apart because it's the base thingie for EVERYTHING. If we keep breaking things apart (starting at the atomic level) we'd eventually end up with pure energy.

Then how do things have mass since energy has no mass?

[cloakable]

fuck you, define them yourself, what colour is my skin? jesus christ.
Your skin colour is Jesus Christ? What exactly does this colour look like?

[euterpenc]

Die.

lol

[lexiphanic]

Then how do things have mass since energy has no mass?

Actually what I find very interesting is that sub-atomic particles can be broken apart into particles that *seem* to have significantly more mass than the initial particles.

[Nemesis]

"Proto-organic"? What exactly are you referring to?



Die.



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Nemesis]

I STRINGENTLY AND EFFICIENTLY DEFY YOUR BASELESS "LOGIC" WOMAN!!!!!

AND MAY YOU BE DOOMED TO AN ETERNITY OF BUFFY AND ANGEL RERUNS!!!


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[C.J.Woolf]

Learn from Master Shai Gar, Grasshoppers.