Many scenarios of afterlife

[afton]

As an INTP, the fact that there's different faiths and religions
in this world don't make sense to me. Every religions and
denominations offer a different scenarios of afterlife.
How can I know which one is right?

[Shai Gar]

Easy.
None of them that you hear about.

there is only one religion that is correct with regards to the afterlife, and that is mine.

our minds are mere transmissions of thought that are in communication with this universe through the firament. when the avatars that are our bodies die, then we(our minds) will return to our origin universe, that is, our minds, and add to the knowledge we have gained, and continue to act passively, or not.

in order to fully achieve this after life sentience you need to send $100AUD to 44 Langdon Street, Tannum Sands, Queensland. in a money order, care of Richard Leslie Whereat

[kuranes]

Are there cavemen spirits in heaven? 8O

[Shai Gar]

There is no heaven, let me reitterate; Send me money.

[kuranes]

Oh come on Shai. Haven't you heard the old saying "see you later at the pearly gater"?

Ron Goldman showed up a little after OJ's wife, and walked up as she was talking to St. Peter. "Here's your #@^%$ glasses" he burbled.

[Shai Gar]

yes, i have also heard the saying that the only good yank is a dead yank... is this one true too?

[panda]

Easy.
None of them that you hear about.

there is only one religion that is correct with regards to the afterlife, and that is mine.

our minds are mere transmissions of thought that are in communication with this universe through the firament. when the avatars that are our bodies die, then we(our minds) will return to our origin universe, that is, our minds, and add to the knowledge we have gained, and continue to act passively, or not.

in order to fully achieve this after life sentience you need to send $100AUD to 44 Langdon Street, Tannum Sands, Queensland. in a money order, care of Richard Leslie Whereat
Please refer to Claverhouse's brilliant post which you so conveniently have displayed beneath all of your messages.

[kuranes]

In this case they'd be yankin' on dead meet.

[Shai Gar]

"meat"

[kuranes]

You were just a wee bit shy of getting the pun there, Shai.

[Spartan26]

I do believe in an afterlife, that is a heaven and a hell. Hell is actually much easier for me to conceive than heaven. Hell is a place of great suffering. A place without God, without love, without hope, without peace. A place where ultimately your soul is destroyed.

I only find snippets in the Bible of what heaven is going to be like. A place of rejoicing beyond compare. I can think back to when I was in high school, many years ago, and being in DECA - Distributive Education Clubs of America, (do they still have this monkey? Marketing class, work experience and business geek competitions???). Not that I'm stuck in my past, but as I now think about it, I can still remember from my junior year being in the grand ballroom of this really posh resort hotel and this swell of emotion going up when I was elected as a state officer. All these people from my school and others in my district were literally patting me on the back and hugging me and girls wanting to escort me to the stage. It was all kinda surreal, partially because none of those people who were praising me that Sunday morning had wanted me to party with them Saturday night when they snuck in all their bottles of booze to the hotel rooms.

I get a sense that heaven is a place like that on a much grander scale, where forgiveness is ultimately obtained. Where you can just be happy for everyone who's there, not caring about what that person did or didn’t do for you. Likewise, no one shunning you for previous hurts you caused.

Also without much effort, I can remember Bret Farve's pass on 4th down being tipped incomplete with less than a minute left to play in the game and jumping up and down in sheer elation that the Broncos were going to finally win the Super Bowl. The oddest thing when you think about it. Crying for this team's victory. Me, all my friends, their fathers and mothers, strangers that we never knew, grown adults, all throughout the country, all bawling our eyes out for this entity we loved achieving its ultimate victory after years of suffering. That's about as close of a scenario I can imagine with God saying, "Well done, my good and faithful servant," as described in the Bible. Burdens lifted, tears wiped away, new bodies given. No death, no more loss. Never again lonely. Finally acceptance. Achieving the most important thing you’ve strived for. A place where we get full understanding.

How am I, or is anyone, to know that Christianity is the right religion? I don't know. There are many apologists who can say why they believe what they believe. Jesus calls people to act in faith and then He’ll show Himself to you. The whole story of “doubting Thomas” in the Bible was about basically someone saying, “Prove to me Christianity is right and then I’ll believe,” when Jesus basically says, “use that little inkling, that possibility that would I say may be true, and then see how you’ll be rewarded.”

I don't really base my belief on what is to come, as far as the afterlife. I mean, I should probably place greater emphasis on this, or I should look forward to it more. I do try to look at things being more hopeful for the future, but that's generally just on earth. More success in my career. Finding a wife. Programs I'm involved in really taking root and growing to really help people and improve quality of life. But the Bible talks so much about how life on earth is so temporal and fleeting.

Admittedly, I don't really know what others are offering. I think a lot of people picture an afterlife being like a Corona ad. Sitting on a warm, secluded beach. Tranquil waters lapping against the shore. All that's separating you from your hot-bod mate is a bucket of cold beer. Sounds great. And I definitely have no proof that there won't be any of that in heaven. It just brings up a lot of questions for me. Like who's going to bring you that beer? Who's going to build you that beach? I hear people all the time say, "as long as you don't murder or rape anybody and are basically a good person…you go to heaven." Yeah? Then what? You qualify for a suite based on what? Are you expecting people from the 3rd world to fetch your bags throughout all eternity because of that annual donation you made at your company’s holiday toy drive?

I think Christianity is different because it never promises to make you a "god." Sure there are promises of great rewards but no mention of getting every whim you desire and your way always being the right way or your word being enforced as law. People don’t say they expect that but when you listen to what their explanation of the hereafter, that’s really what they’re describing. From my understanding, I don't think other religions talk about being made whole or complete. I don't know if other religions suggest that your actions in the great beyond will be based out of love, that the joy you get from receiving mercy from God will spawn great feats of creativity or service towards one another. While I can’t necessarily picture or describe heaven and an afterlife, I’m not confused by it. I think other religions outside the Bible offer more description of an afterlife but have no clear idea of getting what one truly needs. Rich promises without ultimately satisfying.

[Hexchild]

Funny, that. I've never quite liked the idea of going to Heaven when I die. I'd rather go back to Earth. I like life the way it is, with both positive and negative aspects to it, with all its variety and all its possibilities. If living in Heaven is going to reduce my experience to a mere orgy of happiness, then I'd choose living forever on Earth over being bored in Heaven any day.

[SgtWalrus]

After seeing my first Bosch painting I was kinda looking forward to Hell.

[kuranes]

After seeing my first Bosch painting I was kinda looking forward to Hell.
I love you, man! LOL

[cjs55]

When the yellow dies under the velvet thoughts
Blood-bubbles nestled in thorns

I have travelled thrugh suns,
And the darkness of the end
Now I surrender to the void
And join with the pulse of the universe

The world burns with worms of fire
The world burns

The beauty in twisted darkness
Raped by the light of Christ
We were not born to follow
We don't need your guiding light

I tear the skies with my bare hands
There is no death for me
The world burns with worms of fire

Sun or animal, star or beast
Alone all the way to the heart of Christ

I'm free to die when I wish
I'm born from scarlet songs
And when the time is right
I shall forever walk alone

The beauty in twisted darkness
Raped by the light of Christ
Worlds end, through a thousand suns

[Solar]

I like to think that there is no heaven or hell, I'm just going to disappear, and that's that. Heaven doesn't really make sense to me. From what I've heard of it, I'd think it'd get pretty boring. I believe you need sadness to define happiness anyway.

[Shai Gar]

i bet there is a television that shows real reality tv shows in heaven, "Hell - 24/7" "Hell: uncut" "Hell: evisceration"

[kuranes]

"If there's Hell below, we're ALL goin'" - Curtis Mayfield