what girls do to piss guys off.

[ohnoaninfp]

I know you guys want to have a men only forum, but until you do i am posting this here. So write away on how we piss you cuties off.

[Vagabond]

Hm? Who, us? Innocent little angels that we all are??? Naaaah. :D

:devil:

[Johnny]

Women are the best! :D

[Laeskis]

Women are the best! :D
You forgot to put the 'a' in beast

[Vagabond]

Women are the best! :D
You forgot to put the 'a' in beast
See now, Johnny will get the female audience's admiration for good reason. You on the other hand might get kicked by a bunch of furious female INTPs. :D

[Avengardh]

Women are the best! :D
You forgot to put the 'a' in beast

INTP response: meh.

~*Aven*~

[Phreon]

So write away on how we piss you cuties off.

You continually insist on wearing shirts and bras everywhere you go.

JUST STOP IT!

Phreon

[flan2dave]

I take issue when they give that uncomfortable stare that says "I'm sorry, but was that supposed to be an attractive thing you said there? *snicker* ooooo kay." It's like some always half expect to be impressed with your flirting skills whenever you open your mouth.

That was more of a high school thing though. It's no wonder they go after older guys, they're the only ones with enough experience to satisfy their demand for good flirting.

[Hypnos]

You guys are wimps!

Complaints about women:

* Think men are psychic -- all we know is that you're upset about something, or don't know you want something until you're already upset about it. Throw us a bone!

* Expect to be supported even when they are wrong/illogical. Loyalty and respect are continuously earned, not a prerequisite to get into your pants -- we can get that elsewhere for less hassle.

* Sorry, we are not available on Sundays. We are either watching football, working on our bikes, or tinkering on our computers.

* What's with all the frickin' stuffed animals?

[Laeskis]

Kicking me is not allowed.

[Strephonade]

Complaints about women:

* Think men are psychic -- all we know is that you're upset about something, or don't know you want something until you're already upset about it. Throw us a bone!

* Expect to be supported even when they are wrong/illogical. Loyalty and respect are continuously earned, not a prerequisite to get into your pants -- we can get that elsewhere for less hassle.

* Sorry, we are not available on Sundays. We are either watching football, working on our bikes, or tinkering on our computers.

* What's with all the frickin' stuffed animals?


What's specific to women about any of this? ;P

[libertarianjim]

Well, dating abusers and morons while not giving decent fellows the time of day is a habit women could break.

[int]

<Stares into crystal ball> Hmmm...I see....a never ending debate. Woot. </staring>

The opposite sex sucks.

[Laeskis]

...The opposite sex sucks.
continue saying things like that, and you run the risk of being kicked by furious INTP females...
:whistle:

[int]

Why? It's true, at times, for them too. It's a blanket statement that holds true for either sex.


Actually, the statement should read "My opposite gender sucks" but I'm not always that tactful.

[Laeskis]

If I were to be blantantly truthful...
The opposite sex is absolutely wonderful when you find the right one...but dangerous.
I've had quite a few girlfriends but only two 'true loves.'
What I've learned is that I do not dislike females; I dislike the effect they have on me...I give too much of myself.
What pisses me off about them; it seems that no matter how much you care, no matter how much of yourself you invest in the relationship...if you don't provide adequate attention and affection-or rather what they perceive as adequate-they will not reciprocate what you feel.
They take for granted what is offered and what is sacrificed; it becomes valueless and expendable. It does not make one comfortable when one's feelings are so easily discarded. I think that many do not want to know their partner; they simply want to be indulged. I think many do not want to invest themselves in a relationship by understanding their partner, they only want to be coddled.
I believe this behavior is ingrained into the female personality simply because in this world, women have the ultimate control; they can leave a man today and have another tomorrow.
In few words: they are spoiled.
That's my take on it.
(btw for those of you who hate wordy people, my apologies, but I won't be changing anytime soon.)
(DISCLAIMER: this is a highly,highly subjective post; based on emotion.)[/b]

[Laeskis]

I'm still waiting to see the 'bunch' of INTP females....even if they are furious and endeavoring to kick me.
If the only method I can employ to get those types out of the woodwork is to infuriate them into violence, I will soon be recanting my "no kicking" rule.

[int]

<babbling>

Ya know, it's not like anyone is ever going to find that perfect imaginary mate. And I'm not saying that you need to settle, but after a few years of marriage (and almost 10 years of being with the same person) you learn to accept major personality deficiencies and work with them. I know I have mine. I get it. I can be a real P.I.T.A. - but a strong relationship will see through that and you learn to accept who it is that you're really working with. Eventually, acceptance sets in. It sounds worse than it is, but it's probably the most rewarding thing that can happen. I know I'm a better person and have a stronger relationship because of it. All I've ever wanted is acceptance of who I am (I could care less about "understanding me" anymore) and I found it, although it's not always easy as I have a hard time accepting her for who she is at times. In the end though, we laugh at each other and that brings us closer.

</babbling>

Anyways, I should probably step out as I feel like a typical suburbanite in a downtown single's bar (and that's always an observationist's wet dream [sorry, it's late and I can't think of a better description]).

[Laeskis]

After five years with the same person; engaged and living together; I was told "perhaps we should see other people"
her reasoning: I do not show her enough affection.
my thought: I loved as much as I possibly could.
My inference: partner does not understand me, and cannot accept me the way I am. My 'love' is inadequate.
Final Solution: I left. She called, said she didn't mean what she said. I said goodbye and haven't seen her in 3 years.
I moved into an air-conditioning repair shop. :-)
I'm not a real rookie, so the implied statement that this is the real problem doesn't hold.
I still stand by my original opinion that they are spoiled. Unconditional love is not enough. Coddle or be worthless.
(I do mean coddle and not cuddle. Cuddling is fun when I'm not busy.)

[int]

I'm not one to rush to judgements, but if she said she didn't mean it why did you bail anyways?

[Laeskis]

After five years, if what I'm doing isn't sufficient, it's time to blow.
Ever heard the phrase "if you love someone, you'll let them go."
I registered that I did it for her own good. It stung most terribly, and still does. Felt like chewing my arm off.
I did not provide what was necessary, and could not provide what is necessary.
(no, the troubles weren't sexual in nature; they were emotional) So I left her to her own devices.

[int]

After five years, if what I'm doing isn't sufficient, it's time to blow.

But if she said she didn't mean it, are you really as insufficient as you think you were made out to be?

There's probably more, but that seems a pretty weak argument to me. We all have our flaws.

[Laeskis]

She meant it when she said it...only changing her mind after reflection. I think it was a slip of a secret desire. At any rate; there was a little more, she was increasingly losing interest in me and persuing other avenues of life that did not involve me. Also actions such as not wearing the engagement ring I bought her (because, I quote: "I want to keep my options open." as she said to me once.) spoke volumes.
Anyway, she attempted to persuade me that she didn't mean it, but it was, as I said, better for her if I let her go.
I did not "drop her" for being offended or hurt. I was doing what I considered right.
As I say, it wasn't so much based on me being hurt because I was insufficient, but on me not doing enough for her.
It was a situation that sucked badly. Now I hope that at some junction I will meet someone who isn't a typical spoiled "All for me, none for you" type woman.

[int]

That sounds resonable. :)

[Laeskis]

I can't help it if I'm distant. I can do nothing about it. So it 'pisses me off' (as the topic of the thread suggests) when a woman is so spoiled and self-centered as to think that if you're not constantly giving them attention and affection or if you ever think of something other than them than obviously you don't love them.
Just because you're mind is not always focused on someone, or your arms aren't always around them doesn't mean you don't care.

[EternalCynic]

After five years with the same person; engaged and living together; I was told "perhaps we should see other people"
her reasoning: I do not show her enough affection.
my thought: I loved as much as I possibly could.
My inference: partner does not understand me, and cannot accept me the way I am. My 'love' is inadequate.
Final Solution: I left. She called, said she didn't mean what she said. I said goodbye and haven't seen her in 3 years.
I moved into an air-conditioning repair shop. :-)
I'm not a real rookie, so the implied statement that this is the real problem doesn't hold.
I still stand by my original opinion that they are spoiled. Unconditional love is not enough. Coddle or be worthless.
(I do mean coddle and not cuddle. Cuddling is fun when I'm not busy.)

That is not necessarily true. The same could be said for some of my relationships with men, only I'm in your boat. It's a T/F thing, not Male/Female. I don't show emotion much, unless I'm extremely irritated and someone needs to be put in their place (not referencing this post at all, I assure you :P). My boyfriend is NO doubt an F, and he constantly wants love and affection and compliments, etc. I just don't do that kind of thing so we get in arguments qutie frequently.

So lay off ;P (just joking)

[file cabinet]

I'm not one to rush to judgements, but if she said she didn't mean it why did you bail anyways?

I would guess the female missed Laeskis but only because she missed the comfort of having him there so getting back together would only make her feel comfortable and not resolve the problem she had originally.

[Avengardh]

I'm totally in agreement with EternalCynic about the touchy-feely deal, clingyness, etc.
I really can't stand that...I guess I am just more detached in that sense.

~*Aven*~

[nobarcode]

After five years with the same person; engaged and living together; I was told "perhaps we should see other people"


Pfft....At least she gave you that much. You mirror me on the rest of it.


I'm not one to rush to judgements, but if she said she didn't mean it why did you bail anyways?

Principle.

[Sam172]

* What's with all the frickin' stuffed animals?

And what's wrong with stuffed animals!?



I hate the way many of you are superficial and fake. Mind you it's kinda like many of us males really ¬_¬

[nobarcode]

My boyfriend is NO doubt an F, and he constantly wants love and affection and compliments, etc. I just don't do that kind of thing so we get in arguments qutie frequently.


That first part has more to do with a high E fuction.

[Hypnos]

* What's with all the frickin' stuffed animals?

And what's wrong with stuffed animals!?

They don't go with my pseudo-art deco furniture.

And they're distracting.

[Sam172]

* What's with all the frickin' stuffed animals?

And what's wrong with stuffed animals!?

They don't go with my pseudo-art deco furniture.

And they're distracting.

I love them to bits ^_^
Could be why i'm seen by a number of people as having a somewhat psychotic nature....

Speaking of things which irritate me though, it has to be the way that females keep forgetting that I have a terrible memory & poor perception and get irate when they need to explain why they are upset with me....

[MacGuffin]

Know what I hate? When I, you know, "want some". And my wife is like tired and wants to sleep! What is up with that! Is it my fault I can't get to sleep until real late at night???

[Claverhouse]

That's bad, man: you're being deprived of your inalienable rights, right there.

Still, I don't really think anyone should have to ask. I generally just glance sternly and jerk a thumb upwards when I approach one of my wives.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Phreon]

Pillows: Why do women feel the need to have pillows everywhere? 3 sets on the bed? I really don't need to prop my head up so as to see my feet all night long

Being "clingy": Saying "I don't wan't to be that kind of girlfriend", but still getting upset if I choose to see some friends once and a while.

Constant praise: I hate both being expected to express affection and constantly have affectionate terms lavished upon me. "I love you" means nothing if you say it every 5 minutes. I said it once today and I meant it. All day even!

Unconditional support: Expecting me to offer support when exhibiting foolish or dangerous judgement is the biggest annoyance of all. If you're going to hurt yourself, I'm not going to support it.

Phreon

[Vagabond]

Muahaha. I love this thread. :D

(Laeskis, wait some more... who knows, maybe furious INTP females exist somewhere out there... or furious INTPs in general ;) ).

[BritainOphira]

Pillows: Why do women feel the need to have pillows everywhere? 3 sets on the bed? I really don't need to prop my head up so as to see my feet all night long

Pillows are awsome. I currently have six on my bed (all full sized as the smaller ones are rather annoying), and if nothing else, they are great to throw when frustrated.
Of course, now that I think of it, I usually end up with my head on the mattress between the two stacks...

[Laeskis]

pillows are good things.

[nobarcode]

Yeah, personally, I'm more concerned with correct toilet-paper installation.

[Hypnos]

Pillows and stuffed animals: great for target practice!

[SensEye]

* Think men are psychic -- all we know is that you're upset about something, or don't know you want something until you're already upset about it. Throw us a bone!

* Expect to be supported even when they are wrong/illogical. Loyalty and respect are continuously earned, not a prerequisite to get into your pants -- we can get that elsewhere for less hassle.



Yeah! What Hypnos said. To which I would add:

* Don't tell us about your problems unless you want advice on how to solve them.

* What is the deal with toilet seats? In my entire life I have never once sat on a toilet without putting the seat down first. Why do women have such a problem with this?

[nobarcode]

* Think men are psychic -- all we know is that you're upset about something, or don't know you want something until you're already upset about it. Throw us a bone!

* Expect to be supported even when they are wrong/illogical. Loyalty and respect are continuously earned, not a prerequisite to get into your pants -- we can get that elsewhere for less hassle.


* Don't tell us about your problems unless you want advice on how to solve them.
Right, this is an extremely sore subject for me as well, but not one that I would pin on females exclusively.

[EternalCynic]

* What is the deal with toilet seats? In my entire life I have never once sat on a toilet without putting the seat down first. Why do women have such a problem with this?

I think this is mostly a fallacy :rofl:

I've never had issues with this, and I've never met a female who has either. Writers and comedians think that it is a funny notion, so they harp on it because it's something people have been hearing for years, and still think it's funny.

But in all honesty.. I don't know anyone who really cares that much about toilet seats :blink:

[Birdsnest]

For me, the toilet paper roll has to come from the top, the toilet seat lid needs to be put down, and knives have to face down in the dishdrainer.

[nobarcode]

For me, the toilet paper roll has to come from the top, the toilet seat lid needs to be put down, and knives have to face down in the dishdrainer.
B) Exactly, Thank-you. What are we otherwise, a bunch of imprecisions?

[Laeskis]

Knives should definitely be faced downward. Toilet paper...now that's a flexible concept.

[nobarcode]

I despise gossiping women, and they are so many that it's not even remotely funny.
Hmmm...
....
....
and....

What are women burdened by? (excluding being a woman)

[nobarcode]

How does your comment relate to my post?
Of course, Ahem...sorry, but how many men do you hear gossiping? Of course, I'm assuming you put an end to it either way. But which of the sexes do you confront more on the topic? Then I was also referencing the entire thread/forum (having voted "indifferent" to the "mens" forum), which was not a direct response to your post. Sorry.

[jimkopelli]

Here's one. Why is it ok for a woman to talk to her friends about what went on last night, but if guys tell their friends, and are found out, they incur the full force of female wrath? Why the double standard?

[nobarcode]

The behaviour is annoying no matter who does it, and while I'm fully aware that this is something that many males like to do as well, it potentially bothers me more if a woman have this tendency. The reason for this is because I am romantically attracted to women and would not mind to find someone who naturally can be trusted in this matter. Also, the topic of this thread deals specifically with female behaviour.

I'm not usually confronting anyone on this issue; I just want less to do with them.

LOL... well then don't go out with any female that reads Cosmo, People,watches MTV, E!, etc.,etc. :D

[Laeskis]

But Cosmo teaches such wonderful techniques! :blush:

[nobarcode]

But Cosmo teaches such wonderful techniques! :blush:

Including such relevant Topics such as:

(from Sept./04 issue's Table of contents)
"ENTERTAINMENT"
pg.69 Cosmo Informer- Scintillating scoop on your favorite celebs. (ooh boy)
pg.76 Fun Fearless Female- We got Amber Tamblyn to reveal her crush. (I'll bet that grabs your attention :huh: <_<)
pg. 78 Hunk of the Month- Enrique Muriciano ( :whistle: ) talks about getting way too friendly fans.

Fascinating!

[Laeskis]

heh
Ok, destroy cosmo; replace it with the Kama Sutra.

[Melody]

huh

isnt it just
penis into vagina

doesnt sound so hard


Girls can be ludacrisly mean, but the problem is really with us. We get hurt easily.

It could be said we are the bigger pussies. :cry:

[Laeskis]

huh

isnt it just
penis into vagina

doesnt sound so hard


...



Now where's your sense of Artistry :huh:

[jimkopelli]

He forgot the important part... repeat.

[Laeskis]

Women shouldn't want their guy to be Father, Brother, Friend and Lover all at once...that's just too much nurturing.

[EternalCynic]

Not to mention a little disturbing.

[Slider]

heh, so basically, y'all don't like clingy, histrionic, emotional, loud ESFJs. I wonder if any girls on here actually read cosmo . . .

[Almaviva]

I always seem to end up dating ESTJ's. Maybe because it takes someone bossy enough to get me out of my apartment, heh.

[Jezebel]

heh, so basically, y'all don't like clingy, histrionic, emotional, loud ESFJs. I wonder if any girls on here actually read cosmo . . .

I browse through it sometimes

[flan2dave]

A couple buddies of mine gossip a ton, sometimes I'm ready to smack something from listening too long (they're hardcore extroverts who dominate the conversations in the group 90% of the time). Let's not pretend women do this more, sheesh.

[Utopmk]

heh, so basically, y'all don't like clingy, histrionic, emotional, loud ESFJs. I wonder if any girls on here actually read cosmo . . .

I browse through it sometimes

I like reading it myself.

[ohnoaninfp]

Wow you guys wrote a lot. Do we really piss you off that much? Just kidding. I My own gender seems to piss me off. Like the ditzy girls would give us women a bad name.

[Johnny]

Women are the best! :D

Women are still the best! :D

[Utopmk]

Put them on a pedastool and they will rip your heart out and stomp on it.

[Slider]

don't put them on a pedestal. god, I hate when guys do that. like seriously, use your own brain and have your own interests/opinions. girls who like guys that do that probably have serious confidence issues, so of course they're going to treat the guys like shit.

[Utopmk]

Yes, you have to slap them around and call them tramps.

[Hypnos]

Yes, you have to slap them around and call them tramps.
A gentleman! Good day, sir!

[Hypnos]

Wow you guys wrote a lot. Do we really piss you off that much? Just kidding. I My own gender seems to piss me off. Like the ditzy girls would give us women a bad name.
You should be an anti-"female retardation" activist.

[Laeskis]

ummm....croak; gasp; no more thoughts...left....

Pizza?

[Miss Padfoot]

I always seem to end up dating ESTJ's. Maybe because it takes someone bossy enough to get me out of my apartment, heh.Really? I'm not a big ESTJ fan myself. I can stand just about anyone for a short period of time, but not ESTJs. I'm not too experienced when it comes to dating, so I can't say I tend to date a certain type.

[Hypnos]

I always seem to end up dating ESTJ's. Maybe because it takes someone bossy enough to get me out of my apartment, heh.Really? I'm not a big ESTJ fan myself. I can stand just about anyone for a short period of time, but not ESTJs. I'm not too experienced when it comes to dating, so I can't say I tend to date a certain type.
My father is an ESTJ -- live, learn and deal. ;)

[last_caress]

After five years with the same person; engaged and living together; I was told "perhaps we should see other people"
her reasoning: I do not show her enough affection.
my thought: I loved as much as I possibly could.
My inference: partner does not understand me, and cannot accept me the way I am. My 'love' is inadequate.
Final Solution: I left. She called, said she didn't mean what she said. I said goodbye and haven't seen her in 3 years.
I moved into an air-conditioning repair shop. :-)
I'm not a real rookie, so the implied statement that this is the real problem doesn't hold.
I still stand by my original opinion that they are spoiled. Unconditional love is not enough. Coddle or be worthless.
(I do mean coddle and not cuddle. Cuddling is fun when I'm not busy.)

That's the best attitude to have. Took me so many years to figure this out.
Treat a woman who disrespects you just like a man who disrespects you. (Sans physical violence).

[s]

I rarely get along with women. I hate that they always seem to try to bring each other down, because they are jealous and have this primal urge to compete for men's attention and acquire resources. The few female friends that I do have tend to be pretty exceptionally strong, gifted, and self-confident, leading me to believe this is a rare combination in women. I am sure most of the problems are related to pack mentality and rearing female children to fit into some kind of feminine ideal where "math is hard" and "only boys play with trucks."

Sigh.

[nobarcode]

I don't know that I agree with all of that, but it is an interesting generalization that typically men get along better with men, and women get along better with men than women getting along with either men and women. No? How curious...

*Edit* my vision was a bit blurry when I first wrote this.

[CosmicDust]

I rarely get along with women. I hate that they always seem to try to bring each other down, because they are jealous and have this primal urge to compete for men's attention and acquire resources. The few female friends that I do have tend to be pretty exceptionally strong, gifted, and self-confident, leading me to believe this is a rare combination in women. I am sure most of the problems are related to pack mentality and rearing female children to fit into some kind of feminine ideal where "math is hard" and "only boys play with trucks."

Sigh.
Those are a certain kind of female, probably stereotypical xSFx's. I don't consider myself strong, gifted, or self-confident, but I'm not catty, jealous, or competitive about getting guys' attention either. My mom is an ISFJ, I think, but doesn't seem to be into that catty female lifestyle either; she's not very heavy on the J, and generally prefers to be merged with her significant other.

[s]

I don't know that I agree with all of that, but it is an interesting generalization that typically men get along better with men, and women get along better with men than women getting along with either men and women. No? How curious...

Not real sure, but I think I get what you are saying. I usually get along better with men, because I was raised without much female interaction. I think in my years, I have encountered many types of women... say when living in a female dorm, high school, etc..., and it appears there are few compatible with me. I wonder if in a real life situation, if an INTP FEMALE would be compatible with me. I can't really say. Online is different, because physical appearance and presence is not taken into account. Over the years I have evolved a little more making me more at ease in a social situation and I tend to be an intense presence regardless, so I have been told.

My real life experience should not be taken personally by anyone else. I am not intending to insult anyone. I am sure there are some great women out there that I haven't met, but as of today I can count on one hand the women I can have a face to face conversation with and not want to slap. I do not say this with pride, but rather angst.

[ohnoaninfp]

I think I get along better with the men. It seems that women always have to have their guy around. Also we are jealous creatures. Some of us are so nasty, that we backstab our own best friends. Not me of course. I am still bitter about some of the things my so called friends put me through. I like things that girls, according to society, don't like, such as airpanes, cars etc.....

[s]

I think I get along better with the men. It seems that women always have to have their guy around. Also we are jealous creatures. Some of us are so nasty, that we backstab our own best friends. Not me of course. I am still bitter about some of the things my so called friends put me through. I like things that girls, according to society, don't like, such as airpanes, cars etc.....

I agree and yes, "bitter" about some things girls have put me through, too.

You like planes? (I guess so with your pic and all) Cool. I took my first flying lesson at the age of 8, with my Dad's Bellanca Citabria. He later sold it before I got my license, but it was so much fun.

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