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Rajah
12 Sep 2005, 07:00 PM
I find math and the biological and physical sciences all fascinating. However, my career uses none of those for a few reasons:

1) I had a series of horrible math and science classes. I didn't have the personal initiative I needed at age 11 (surprise, surprise) to pick it up and learn it on my own.

2) The way math and science (particularly chemistry and physics) classes are typically taught do not favor INTPs. At all. Generally, these classes involved teachers making us solve endless pages of equations without ever telling me why I was doing it. Had I known, say, physics could be used to determine whether or not the stunt driver's car would crash into a wall, maybe I could have shown more interest.

3) My mom always insisted my strength was math and science, and I was wasting my time with other interests. I believe that my frustration with being told who I was, coupled with the intense pressure it put on me, made me disinterested in math altogether. Worse, my mom was probably right.

In college, I excelled in biology (except for one class spent half the semester talking about the urinary tract of a fish!) and statistics. However, I dropped calculus and couldn't even be bothered to go chem class.

Now, years after getting my B.A., want to brush up on math and science. Any reading recommendations? A good math text to start? With me, it does no good to hand me some remedial text because I will be so bored I'll try give myself a lethal papercut with it.

eyebyte_atWork
12 Sep 2005, 08:30 PM
Well - interesting question - Math/Physics is not psychology...

If it is at all possible - find a mentor. I tutor people in Math at various stages... I enjoy my time with them and they excel at times faster than if they were in a class... but it takes commitment on both sides. A mentor would be ideal because they dont "teach" in as much as they guide. You will work it with the conceptual guidance of a skilled practitioner.

Other than that - math peer group. Challenges one to keep pushing towards the ultimate knowledge.

Other than that - go to night classes.

Rajah
12 Sep 2005, 09:29 PM
Well - interesting question - Math/Physics is not psychology...Huh.. I guess it did end up being a math/science/psych hybrid question. But really, I just wanted people with a science and/or math background to pony up some good resources. I like your idea of a "mentor."

afton
11 Dec 2005, 08:24 AM
In college, I excelled in biology (except for one class spent half the semester talking about the urinary tract of a fish!) and statistics.

Now, years after getting my B.A., want to brush up on math and science. Any reading recommendations?

When did you take the biology course? If it's more than 5 years ago,
there has been a lot of discoveries since (eg. completion of Human Genome
Project). Currently I'm reading Campbell's Biology (7th Ed), just for fun.
After this I'd probably buy Gray's Anatomy (39th Ed), just for fun too.

distraction tactics
11 Dec 2005, 12:24 PM
Now, years after getting my B.A., want to brush up on math and science. Any reading recommendations? A good math text to start? With me, it does no good to hand me some remedial text because I will be so bored I'll try give myself a lethal papercut with it.

Regarding science, much of my interest lies in pop books intended for the general audience. The Elegant Universe (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375708111/qid=1134303316/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6361064-2004752?n=507846&s=books&v=glance) and The Life and Death of Planet Earth (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805075127/qid=1134303583/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6361064-2004752?n=507846&s=books&v=glance), being two such examples. They can be useful springboards in focusing any interest if it so happens one wants more detailed, technical information.

A subscription to Scientific American or Discover can be a great catalyst also, as well a source for the latest happenings.

Don't forget the internet; I frequent the Universe Today (http://www.universetoday.com) site which is very accessible in its news-blog format.

Hell, even scientist-specific essays: The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CC49VM/qid=1134303796/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6361064-2004752?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)

Rajah
11 Dec 2005, 06:40 PM
The Elegant Universe (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375708111/qid=1134303316/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6361064-2004752?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)Thanks for the recommendations. I actually recently bought this book, so I'll start here. Glad to know it's a good start...

joecancer
12 Dec 2005, 07:04 PM
Rajah - It's funny, I was the same way. I always did well in match and science, and not too great in high school english, yet decided to be an english major in college. I even scored 200 points higher on ther math than verbal SAT. I think I just never saw the real-world application of all the abstract principles you learn in math and science, and lost interest. Let me know if you find any good books.

Biff_Loman
12 Dec 2005, 07:25 PM
I was always abysmal at math and only partly interested in science. I was only interested in English and History.

Now the humanities bore me to tears, and I'd like to learn more math/science/tech stuff. I'm slowly dipping my toes into the water in these areas. . . too many other distractions and obsessions stealing my time.