Random type-related behavior pattern observations

[garak]

Just one for now:

INFPs don't throw stuff out, and don't wanna. Seems like they like to collect stuff, to the point where an INTP would say "damn you have a lot of junk." INTPs are more conflicted. Part of them (Si?) wants to keep around important relics from the past, and their general laziness tends to cause them to not throw stuff out as much as they otherwise might. But, sometimes their utilitarianism kicks in, and they can find much satisfaction in cutting out dead weight and "minimizing."

[Hexchild]

But, sometimes their utilitarianism kicks in, and they can find much satisfaction in cutting out dead weight and "minimizing."

That rarely ever happens for me. But yes, it does, maybe once every five years or so.

[tomeklund]

Height of the newspaper mountain in the doorway is certainly correlated with lazyness more than with anything else. Yet, i do save almost everything that might be useful in the future. It takes a LONG empirical observation to become a certain enough to be able to throw stuff away. Empirical in that sense, that i would know that if i don't change as a person (if life remains the same as before), i will never need the item afterall.

[garak]

Resurrecting this thread.. as originally planned.

ISTPs somehow manage to be open minded, while also having very strong opinions and being rather outspoken at times., almost crotchety, really. They can almost seem J in their self-assuredness, but then you talk reason to them and they actually respond well to it, and meaningful discussion follows. (instead of frustrating bickering, as often happens with INTJs)

I never realized how well INTPs and ISTPs could get along until experiencing it. In some ways it seems like I almost could have become one. But at other times, the massiveness of the N/S difference rears its head.

[distraction tactics]

But at other times, the massiveness of the N/S difference rears its head.

Any specific ways you can recall?

[Winterpark]

Poor garak, he doesn't have an answer to this one.

[sasapurdue]

Any specific ways you can recall?

The ISTP i know is much more interested in living a traditional and secure life -- having a regular job, having a house, etc. Where as INTP's don't tend to be in pursuit of the traditional and stable things that S's tend to be in pursuit of. i mean i (as an INTP)am much more motivated by self-discovery and i am willing to risk stability in pursuit of this self-discovery. They also don't look at what everything means. They aren't particularly introspective. but that is just my experience with an ISTP who is my bf of 1.5 years. He doesn't understand my flights of fancy, he thinks I can be unrealistic, and definitely thinks all of my dreams and aspirations are sort of "out there".

i just read this post and it seems so negative -- I really like this ISTP he is fun and funny and brings me out of the clouds.

[Promethean]

I positively love throwing shit away. It's one of the greatest pleasures I know. General laziness does keep me from doing it often but it sure is fun. Throwing away the past is particularly fun. If you went through all of my personal belongings you wouldn't know a damn thing about me other than what size clothes I wear. I don't take or keep photos, through away all awards, certificates, trophies etc, give away or throw out anything that hasn't shown to be generally useful. My wife and I fight about this all the time. She has a severely underdeveloped personality so we have no idea what type she is closest to but I suppose she could be INFP. At any rate she is the worlds worst packrat. So much so that I think she has some sort of maledy in which she cannot be confortable unless everything about her is cluttered and chaotic (no exageration intented). I've got an almost opposite disorder. This and nothing else will probably end our marriage as the chaos of our home has litteraly almost driven me to suicide on a number of occasions.

It's tragicaly humorous I think.

[MacGuffin]

I positively love throwing shit away. It's one of the greatest pleasures I know. General laziness does keep me from doing it often but it sure is fun. Throwing away the past is particularly fun. If you went through all of my personal belongings you wouldn't know a damn thing about me other than what size clothes I wear. I don't take or keep photos, through away all awards, certificates, trophies etc, give away or throw out anything that hasn't shown to be generally useful. My wife and I fight about this all the time. She has a severely underdeveloped personality so we have no idea what type she is closest to but I suppose she could be INFP. At any rate she is the worlds worst packrat. So much so that I think she has some sort of maledy in which she cannot be confortable unless everything about her is cluttered and chaotic (no exageration intented). I've got an almost opposite disorder. This and nothing else will probably end our marriage as the chaos of our home has litteraly almost driven me to suicide on a number of occasions.NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I'm with your wife.

[jread]

My mom is an INFP and I completely agree with the packrat observation. I'm not a packrat but just too lazy to throw things away. I will "snap" once or twice a year and fill up a few trash bags, though :)

[Dolphin]

I guess I am not INFP then. I throw whatever I don't need away. Otherwise it stays where it is for a few months, until I notice it there, then I throw it away if I don't need it anymore.

[Tensore]

Just one for now:

INFPs don't throw stuff out, and don't wanna. Seems like they like to collect stuff, to the point where an INTP would say "damn you have a lot of junk." INTPs are more conflicted. Part of them (Si?) wants to keep around important relics from the past, and their general laziness tends to cause them to not throw stuff out as much as they otherwise might.

Sounds like the Grandma. It got so bad, there was only room enough for one person to pass thru the pathways in her house, she had 2 U-storage places full of junk 6 feet high--I shit you not, it was piled higher than I was. It got so bad she stored stuff in the trunk and the back seat of her car.

[Neppy]

I can't be a packrat because we move house so often and every time we move, we throw away everything we don't need. However, I'm terribly prone to clutter, which drives my INTJ mother positively insane, even though she herself can become cluttered. It doesn't stop her yelling at me to tidy my room, and then she'll do it herself and I won't know where anything is anymore! And there are basically no decorative objects in our house, just piles of books and things of that nature. But that might also be to do with the fact that we move too often to start decorating.

I think I do have packrat tendencies though. I don't like throwing things away if I think they can become useful to me in the future. I also don't like throwing old books away if I think I might want to read them again, and then I never ever do. I also keep the most random objects that serve absolutely no purpose, and only between moving houses do I remember I have them, heh.

I agree. When you're cleaning your room out and throwing all your old shit away, it feels really good. Everything's optimised, you have more space and more room for newer, more useful objects. But for some reason I start becoming emotionally attached to objects I've had for a long time and I'll just keep them round for the sake of it. I've had my chess computer for about 10 years now. And now that I think about it, I feel like playing on it. O.o...

[Geek Engineer]

My mom is an INFP and I completely agree with the packrat observation. I'm not a packrat but just too lazy to throw things away. I will "snap" once or twice a year and fill up a few trash bags, though :)

Ha Ha..Ditto..