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jetboots
24 Sep 2005, 08:28 PM
A lot of times I hear about INTPs trying to get their J in gear for certain lengths of time or occasions, or points in their life, whatever.

Environment influences people a lot, I think we can all agree on that. So now, how would keeping a super minimalist space make things?

Minimizing your surrounds focuses you to what you think is most important and also "clears" your mind and has a subconsious "zen" effect.

Minimizing does not mean that things are inconvienient, it just means that the most important things are most (and very) convienent. Not everything must be thrown away, just put in storage of some sort.

INTPs brains are already cluttered enough, so I sort of use this as a balance. As a side, keeping things minimal is a good procrastination tactic with a good outcome.

Edit: as an extra side, this might also bring out the E in oneself, if you think about it....

Nighthawk
24 Sep 2005, 08:35 PM
The military was a minimalist environment, and it definitely brought out my J. Of course, it also could have been the overriding rule structure and predominance of SJs.

booyalab
24 Sep 2005, 09:37 PM
It's basically the INTP aversion to conceptual redundancy (Ti) translated to the external world (Te) With just the bare essentials, you have more control over your environment and can accomplish goals more efficiently.

eyebyte_atWork
25 Sep 2005, 01:02 AM
Well - I hope that people can exercise their weaker areas... Like your J

Miss Anthropic
25 Sep 2005, 02:51 AM
Interesting for me that you started this thread at this particular time. I am in the process of ridding myself of many "treasured" possessions. First I wanted to get rid of some stuff. I planned to throw, give to GoodWill and sell on Ebay. Then I couldn't decide from day to day what I was willing to give up and what was actually worth my time selling. Finally I decided to give the crap to Good Will and all the good or valuable stuff to our local Humane Society thrift shop. The more stuff I box up and carry out the more I want to dispose of. When I come across something I'm particularly fond of, (like the antique milk bottle with a crow logo on it) I just think of who will benefit from the sale. 12 boxes so far....more to go, and I've become acutely more aware in the past year of not acquiring material items I don't really need---ie;most stuff I see and think would be cool to have for one reason or another.

Serotonin
25 Sep 2005, 03:12 AM
It's basically the INTP aversion to conceptual redundancy (Ti) translated to the external world (Te) With just the bare essentials, you have more control over your environment and can accomplish goals more efficiently.

I agree. It's usually when a deadline is approaching. Let's just get this shit done. Anyone who gets in my way gets their ass-kicked so hard their tongue pokes out, which is used to lick my postage stamps.

5 integration to 8. It's a good feeling.

C.J.Woolf
25 Sep 2005, 03:38 AM
Minimizing your surrounds focuses you to what you think is most important and also "clears" your mind and has a subconsious "zen" effect.
Constraints of any sort focus the mind and give our P less to distract it.

Deadlines are the constraint I'm most familiar with, but there are also the constraints of a minimalist art form like haiku or the limerick. :D I haven't tried to deliberately reduce my living space drastically, but that would work too.

Zero Angel
25 Sep 2005, 05:42 PM
I agree. It's usually when a deadline is approaching. Let's just get this shit done. Anyone who gets in my way gets their ass-kicked so hard their tongue pokes out, which is used to lick my postage stamps.

5 integration to 8. It's a good feeling.
Aww yeah, I can totally relate to that. It's actually very exhilerating being in the position where the clock is running out and it's up to you to give orders in order to get the project done quickly and efficiently.

And that people actually listen to you.... huge confidence booster.