View Full Version : reasons you're not posting in the religion threads?
file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 05:49 AM
personally, I am not posting in any of the religious / god / spirtual threads.. mainly because I have no interest in any of it.. but also because I was raised in a christian home and my dad is a pastor. I just don't want to deal with it on the internet unless I have an opportunity to make a bible bashing comment.
shaytana
20 Sep 2004, 06:30 AM
You can only have the debate so many times before it bores you to death. I don't even read the threads anymore.
Jezebel
20 Sep 2004, 06:35 AM
I used to be interested in it when I was a teenager. I read all kinds of books, forums, newsgroups, and internet sites on the subject. I was an avid debater. Then I reached a point where I decided that it didn't matter and I didn't care anymore. I don't see religion as necessary (for me). I base my morality on what I consider right and wrong. If there's some god out there that's going to punish me in the afterlife because I didn't believe even if I was a "good" person, it's not a god that I would be able to worship anyway. I don't care what other people believe or if they agree with me, as long as they don't push it on me.
And I second shaytana. It feels like I already heard all the arguments from both sides and I don't like reading the same thing over and over.
Laeskis
20 Sep 2004, 07:00 AM
it's possibly (probably) true that it doesn't matter...the only thing good about it is trying to solve an unsolvable.
It's just fun. Attack the problem from every angle and never really reach an answer. Perfect fodder for idle thought.
file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 07:01 AM
> unless I have an opportunity to make a bible bashing comment
that doesn't mean just because I don't believe there's a god doesn't mean I believe that what I believe is "right" .. I really don't care either way.. as mentioned above by others.
If I get in early enough I'll post and contribute to its eventual demise, otherwise I skim them to see if there's actually anything new happening in the debate. I'm still fascinated by the subject, for some reason, even though the last time I heard something new was a few years ago.
Laeskis
20 Sep 2004, 07:06 AM
> unless I have an opportunity to make a bible bashing comment
...
Do you discern between bashing the core belief or bashing the behavior of the believers?
file cabinet
20 Sep 2004, 07:18 AM
> unless I have an opportunity to make a bible bashing comment
...
Do you discern between bashing the core belief or bashing the behavior of the believers?
probably more the brainwashing aspect of religion...
example..
a cult leader is teaching his children songs about whatever he believes and he has them chanting songs...
a sunday school teacher is teaching her children jesus songs and she practices with them everyday...
although the sentences are both phrased differently there are both pretty similar.. brainwashing.
Laeskis
20 Sep 2004, 07:43 AM
falls under behavior bashing, I'd say.
I'd agree on the brainwashing aspect, among other things. At any rate, I can't quite knock the core beliefs....love your neighbor and all that...it's good stuff.
I'd say that the believers could act a little better...
Especially the Protestants. (Baptists in particular)
Arioch
20 Sep 2004, 11:07 AM
I don't do them because I'm in the middle of re-calibrating my own beliefs. Checking each and ever corner and see if it measures up correctly.
I have no intention of standing before God one day and having to answer "but I didn't know" when asked why I did this or that sin
HairlessBluetick
20 Sep 2004, 11:13 AM
I don't do them because I'm in the middle of re-calibrating my own beliefs. Checking each and ever corner and see if it measures up correctly.
I have no intention of standing before God one day and having to answer "but I didn't know" when asked why I did this or that sin
How interesting that re-examining your own religious beliefs should make you want to ignore what other people have to say on it.
And that sounds like a criticism, I know, but it isnt, and I'm too tired to rephrase it.
indczn
20 Sep 2004, 02:48 PM
I dont participate because noones beliefs are going to change about the subject from the discussion. Religion is one of those things that you must experience something significant for your beliefs to change.
Kristi
20 Sep 2004, 03:35 PM
I am not posting because I believe the concept of "God" cannot be proven with our logic or linear type thinking. We as humans know very little and a large majority of individuals believe that the only things that are real are quantifiable. I on the other hand believe there is much more to discover in nonlinear dynamics. We as humans are very limited on our ablility to perceive the world or universe. I think they only things we can go on for now is faith and those feelings that cannot be proven.
Claverhouse
20 Sep 2004, 06:44 PM
As a profound believer, in God and an Afterlife for all creatures, I just feel I've got nothing useful to say. I don't want to convert anyone to anything ( this does not preclude forcing them to some things had I the means that I do not have: never confuse powerlessness with tolerance ). I've heard most sides. No point in writing just to write.
:zzz:
P'raps another time.
Claverhouse :ph34r:
Avengardh
20 Sep 2004, 07:56 PM
Heh. I was going to say something critical but I stopped myself, because this keyboard at this school comp lab sucks :d
I don't participate because I don't have a religion and I looked into all the religions I could in the past and I just can't follow one. To me, therefore, discussing my beliefs with people who are religious seems irrelevant.
~*Aven*~
ohnoaninfp
20 Sep 2004, 10:34 PM
Why bother? I hate it when people attack me because of my religion. Seriously. Each to his own.
Vagabond
20 Sep 2004, 11:06 PM
I post whenever I am in the mood, otherwise I don't. Just like I do in every other thread. It is just like any other discussion - you have to be in the right kind of mood to hold it.
Arioch
21 Sep 2004, 12:10 AM
I don't do them because I'm in the middle of re-calibrating my own beliefs. Checking each and ever corner and see if it measures up correctly.
I have no intention of standing before God one day and having to answer "but I didn't know" when asked why I did this or that sin
How interesting that re-examining your own religious beliefs should make you want to ignore what other people have to say on it.
And that sounds like a criticism, I know, but it isnt, and I'm too tired to rephrase it.
Hmm.. it's hard to explain. Perhaps because it is such a private thing.. I shall try to explain what I'm doing. I have finished asking "is there a God" for a while to understand more of what I'm studying. I am broadening my mind, sending it back through lines of thought and philosophers of the last 1500 years. There are so many thoughts I can feast on and by understanding what was and what is I can understand the human influences in it.
In the present I look at Gods Word as close as humanly possible and meditate on it. finding what is the core of Religion. By knowing what is Divine and what is man I shall collect and purify my knowledge.
And with all this I shall finish constructing my own Philosophy. In this philosophy I shall answer such questions as what is God (possibilities and to the limit of human understanding), what is knowledge and perhaps more important which questions are to be asked? I shall build a hierarchy of good deeds to see how one can do the most good with the least bit of effort. The ultimate purpose of it shall be to perfect myself and raise myself in Gods eyes.
I have directed all my passion into this and that is perhaps why it is so private that I will not allow outside interference into this or worse for myself to be side tracked. More then a search for knowledge it is also an act of religious devotion to me. A prolonged session of worship. Sometimes while doing it I am consumed by ecstasy. I feel tremendous joy as if I was dancing to the tune of all the stars. As if my whole being was combined in one focused beam of light and going intense towards its destined target.
I am reminded of a certain saying:
"The ink of the scholar is more holy then the blood of the martyr."
Laeskis
21 Sep 2004, 02:35 AM
Since I'm bad about posting nonsense, I can't help but post this...
No mockery intended...
But damnit...I wanna be consumed by ecstacy!
SensEye
21 Sep 2004, 04:33 AM
I am not avoiding posting in the relgious threads as a matter of policy.
Like some others have mentioned, I have had my share of religious discussions and there is not much new ground to cover. Faith is not something that can be arrived at by reason, in my opinion, so there is not a whole lot of point talking about it overmuch.
However, it is an interesting subject in general and I will probably jump in eventually. So far the discussions I have seen have been too metaphysical for my tastes.
flan2dave
21 Sep 2004, 04:37 AM
I guess I do tend to ignore those threads now that you mention it. The type of thinking doesn't appeal to me. If it's something that's theoretically possible but not yet known or created, then you'll have my attention.
HairlessBluetick
21 Sep 2004, 04:41 AM
Personally I think the reason I don't read them (or reply to them) is because, while I've had some good discussions on religion in real time, I can't imagine doing it on a board like this. It just doesn't have the thrill of debate that it should, I guess.
Arioch
21 Sep 2004, 11:11 AM
Since I'm bad about posting nonsense, I can't help but post this...
No mockery intended...
But damnit...I wanna be consumed by ecstacy!
Ahh what the hell. I'll take it because I like the character in your Avatar.
Mad Hatter rocks. Ultimate rolemodel
I really should read the Alice in wonderland stories again
Laeskis
21 Sep 2004, 03:43 PM
:D
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