Which Type the Biggest Asshole?

[Johnny]

O.K. which type do you think is the biggest asshole?

I, personally, think INTP'ers are the biggest assholes...but that's because I'm ready to be honest with myself and my type. :lol:

I think SJ's are the least likely to be assholes. They only see what's in front of them and they've already made up their minds what it is. If you're a smart enough INTP, you can quite easily push their buttons so that they get along with you cordially.

[sasapurdue]

depends on what your definition on asshole is...
If it is fake niceness to maintain social harmony -- ESxJ types
If it is not caring about anything but the good times, then dumping your ass when the bad times come around -- ESxP

If its honesty to the point of being blunt and not caring about social nicety -- INTP or INTJ.

For me personally I think it is the ESxJ or ESxP.
disclaimer: not all people of these types are big assholes, I am just saying that people that I tend to find most offensive TEND to be of these types.

[headfonez]

well thought sasapurdue.

[sasapurdue]

well thought sasapurdue.
thanks.

[headfonez]

You're welcome.

[Johnny]

Right good point...gotta get a clear standard of measure in place first:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asshole

Noun

asshole



Alternative spellings

arsehole (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arsehole) (UK, Australia)

(vulgar) The anus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anus). My crap (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/crap) won't come out of my asshole, doctor.
(vulgar) An undesirable (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/undesirable) person. Less vulgar and intense than fucker (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fucker). You put a dent (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dent) in my car (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/car), you asshole!
O.K. let's go with definition #2 and see how hard we can rock this boat!

I still say INTP'ers are the biggest assholes (myself included).

[meshou]

ENTJs can be assholes too. The biggest assholes I currently deal with are an ESTJ and an ESTP.

There's two assholes at work I get along with well: An XSTJ and an ESTP. But they're at each other's throats.

[Imen de Naars]

ESFP males from my experience are the assholes

[Nighthawk]

At work, I've had the worst experiences with ESTJs. They are unbending, stubborn, and can make your life a living hell. Talk about thinking inside the box.

Socially, I've had the worst experiences with ESxPs. They consistently try to manipulate, rip me off, and scam me. My dad was an ESFP and a huge asshole. Cared only about himself.

I can see your point about INTPs though, Johnny. I've run into several INTPs and INTJs who can be real pricks in terms of being arrogant and/or verbally abusive.

[eyebyte_atWork]

My type I think.

(at least that's what my ex tells me)

[Imen de Naars]

I can see your point about INTPs though, Johnny. I've run into several INTPs and INTJs who can be real pricks in terms of being arrogant and/or verbally abusive.


Yeah, all NTs, but ultimately their arrogance and such it's harmless - maybe it's just a biased point of view

[Hustler]

I would say there is almost no correlation between type and assholery. All types are well represented among the ranks of assholes.

[eyebyte_atWork]

I would say there is almost no correlation between type and assholery. All types are well represented among the ranks of assholes.


Maybe - but then again the term asshole can also be applied to a person of a non-complimentary type. Therefore They are alwayes the asshole.

[April]

My dad's an INTJ. He's definitely an asshole. ESTPs and ESTJs can be assholes, but I've gotten along with many just fine.

As far as Hustler's point... I think different adjectives would describe other types better. Sure, we can all be assholes. But wouldn't you rather call an INFP a pussy?

[simian20]

what cat do sensate, senseless comfort seeking, fast food eating mind chafing feck wits come under?

[booyalab]

ESFP males from my experience are the assholes

interesting, one of my friends is an ESFP and he's about the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

I think the only real certain thing you can say about this is the type that's LEAST likely to be an asshole is ISFP.

[coffeezombie]

How can one generalize about one type being more of an asshole than another? Just look at this board, for instance. It runs the gamut between Apethedog and Hustler.

[Melange]

All types have potential to be total assholes, but different traits of an asshole, whether it be "wishy washy, feel exactly as I do or die", or the "if you don't agree with me, I'll throw a tantrum" . Overall I'd have to go with ESxx's. ESxJ's most likely are the "assholes" we complain about here on INTPC.

[PiccoloNamek]

I would say that ES** or EN**'s tend to be the most assholish. But, I'm an INTP, and I've been known to be an extreme asshole at times, throwing biting sarcasm and cynical vitriol at others.

[Johnny]

How can one generalize about one type being more of an asshole than another?Easy. Let me demonstrate:

INTP's are the biggest assholes.

:hug:

[seba]

well depends on the eyes of the viewer. probably we are the assholes in the eyes of the majority.

[Sue Denim]

ExTJ

[Snowflake]

well depends on the eyes of the viewer. probably we are the assholes in the eyes of the majority.

This is my vote. Hell, I've been perceived as an asshole by an INTJ before, hahah :banana:

[Imen de Naars]

interesting, one of my friends is an ESFP and he's about the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

I think the only real certain thing you can say about this is the type that's LEAST likely to be an asshole is ISFP.

Eh, lucky you;

I agree on ISFPs

[PenguinHunter]

interesting, one of my friends is an ESFP and he's about the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

I think the only real certain thing you can say about this is the type that's LEAST likely to be an asshole is ISFP.

heh, that's strange. One of my old roommates was the only ISFP I've ever met (to my knowledge) and he was quite an asshole. Extremely self-centred. Making himself look cool seemed to be his only goal in life, and bugger anything that stands in his way.

[hardkar]

I think that I'm an asshole in some peoples eyes, usually the SJ types. Even though my intentions are good people don't perceive that way, I get judged and ignored.

[Dunearhp]

Let me give you a hint. They bitch and whine in a place of comfort whilst classifying a large chunk of the general population as assholes.

[sasapurdue]

Let me give you a hint. They bitch and whine in a place of comfort whilst classifying a large chunk of the general population as assholes.

Let me give you a hint, they utilize BITING SARCASM.

[Dunearhp]

Let me give you a hint, they utilize BITING SARCASM.
So true. :D

[sasapurdue]

So true. :D

also true is that I used biting sarcasm to respond to your biting sarcasm. so i am equally guilty. haha. maybe intp's really are the assholes.

we could start an asshole society where everyone ignores each other and does there own thing.

[MasterMerk]

also true is that I used biting sarcasm to respond to your biting sarcasm. so i am equally guilty. haha. maybe intp's really are the assholes.

we could start an asshole society where everyone ignores each other and does there own thing.

hey, sounds like a libertarian haven.

[hardkar]

hey, sounds like a libertarian haven.Yeah how strange that no one ever had that idea before.

[jread]

INTJ's tend to piss me off and I consider them to be assholes for the most part. They think they know EVERYTHING and they think what they have to say is a lot more important than what you have to say. They're notorious for saying, "ANYWAY, blah blah" right when you're in mid-sentence. They only time they back down is if you get really pissed off and get right in their face.

[eyebyte_atWork]

INTJ's tend to piss me off and I consider them to be assholes for the most part. They think they know EVERYTHING and they think what they have to say is a lot more important than what you have to say. They're notorious for saying, "ANYWAY, blah blah" right when you're in mid-sentence. They only time they back down is if you get really pissed off and get right in their face.


Hay -- thats a mean thing to say - true - but mean.















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[jread]

Hay -- thats a mean thing to say - true - but mean.

What do you care? INTJ's have no feelings anyway so there is nothing to hurt. Besides, as much time as you guys spend focusing on how awesome you are and how unimportant everyone else is, I doubt my comments even affect you.














;P :rofl:

[Crazy]

IMO politicians are the biggest assholes. What is the most popular type for politicians?

[eyebyte_atWork]

IMO politicians are the biggest assholes. What is the most popular type for politicians?

SJ's - and there you have it. Question answered.

[nottaprettygal]

INTJ's tend to piss me off and I consider them to be assholes for the most part....They're notorious for saying, "ANYWAY, blah blah" right when you're in mid-sentence.

Uhh...anyway....on to more important matters, like what I have to say, ESTJ's can be pretty big assholes. I would guess that they make up the majority of politicians as well.

[Neppy]

Biggest assholes? Haha! I haven't got a clue.

But I do know a guy at work named Ryan. From what I can gather: he's extraverted, sensing, thinking, judging. ESTJ. I do not get on with him - at all. He completely tries to dominate me with his opinions, the ones that he deems unquestionably superior to everybody else's. He doesn't let me explain my side. His judgements are absolute and they often make very little sense to me. He supports the BNP and he thinks that Harry Potter is destroying the minds of children. Oh, and he spent weeks sending me flirty text messages and trying to date me, and one time we did go on a shopping trip together. He talked, and talked, and talked, and talked some more. By the end of the day I had my headphones plugged in just so he would shut up, haha. He stomps around and slams things down onto the table during break (when he comes to sit with us), and his sentences often start with "I hate", or something similar. He's a big asshole. But I'm not going to paint all ESTJs with the same broad brush, obviously.

As for INTJs, I only know one and that's my mother. I often admire her ability to completely dismantle the doings of society, or the motives of others, in a few short concise sentences. The differences between us are very clear though. It's only because I'm her daughter that she doesn't intimidate me, but she definitely manages to intimidate everybody else. Even though I live with her, I don't know much about her. She is very secretive. I can see why people might not like INTJs very much, if they're anything like my mother. ;)

[Crazy]

Uhh...anyway....on to more important matters, like what I have to say, ESTJ's can be pretty big assholes. I would guess that they make up the majority of politicians as well.I don't think you are an asshole, if that's any consolation.

[philonightmare]

But I do know a guy at work named Ryan. From what I can gather: he's extraverted, sensing, thinking, judging. ESTJ. I do not get on with him - at all. He completely tries to dominate me with his opinions, the ones that he deems unquestionably superior to everybody else's. He doesn't let me explain my side. His judgements are absolute and they often make very little sense to me. He supports the BNP and he thinks that Harry Potter is destroying the minds of children. Oh, and he spent weeks sending me flirty text messages and trying to date me, and one time we did go on a shopping trip together. He talked, and talked, and talked, and talked some more. By the end of the day I had my headphones plugged in just so he would shut up, haha. He stomps around and slams things down onto the table during break (when he comes to sit with us), and his sentences often start with "I hate", or something similar. He's a big asshole. But I'm not going to paint all ESTJs with the same broad brush, obviously.
haha, oh man, I applaud your patience dealing with him!

I think that ISTJs can be the biggest assholes (from personal experience). Quietly fuming to themselves and then bursting with anger at random moments, deadly annoying with their out of the blue complaints, resistance for hearing another's point of view, will find fault with you, not tell you where, but expect you to change, quick to judge other people before considering their own behavior as faulty in some regard and much much more.

[Mr. Beef]

I think the down and dirty is that NTs should revolt and take over the world!!! Hahaha...no...that's about half true. You shouldn't really judge a person by personality type because there is so much variation within that range. However......SJs are an exception....a lot of them really suck. Not all, but a good deal. Really bad. Close-minded, snobby, selfish....i've had problems with SJ criticism my whole life. Once AI and robotic automation becomes more prevalent in the next century, there really won't be much use for them anymore except as politicians......and MINIONS!!! (SJ: :worthy: )


(JK.....but not really...)

[Mr. Beef]

But then again....I'm INTJ/INTP and i can be an asshole, so....go figure. You have to wonder though.....does the INTx bitterness maybe result as a protective barrier against other people? I mean, living in an ESxJ world i could understand how someone might want to be a dick to everyone. Most likely it's a combo of this and their inherent arrogance. Also, keep in mind that though most criminals are generally not INTx, INTxs have the most potential for evil due to their remarkably low empathy. I'm not going to name names.....but i'll give you a hint: He started the holocaust. If that's not purified asshole, then i don't know what is.

[MasterMerk]

I'm caught up between ESTPs and ESTJs. See, either of which can be good and reasonable people, but at their worst, they're just too much to handle.

I have an ESTP older brother. If you're wondering, HORRIBLE type to spend a household with - as a friend, they're nice enough; they have to keep that appearance. But being all too familiar with them is not good at all. My brother is an asshole to everyone within the family, and irrespective of everyone's property, including his own. Over 20, never been employed, leeches and throws things when he doesn't get cash to go out and get pissed every night of the week. Keeps up with that ESTP seller mentality - i.e. he's full of shit. He's not going to age gracefully, at all. I'm surprised I'm related.

ESTJs just try and force you under their command. You cannot reason with them, it's *their way* or *no way*, so just don't bother dealing with them. They also have a habit of talking down people, introverts especially. Why I can't stand an ESTJ in a position authority. They're bureaucratic by nature and flunkies to their superiors.

[NoodleBoy]

INTJ's can be a pain. ESTJ's are more visible, though, and they often hook up with other like-minded ESTJ's to compound their weaknesses.

[Nighthawk]

INTJ's can be a pain. ESTJ's are more visible, though, and they often hook up with other like-minded ESTJ's to compound their weaknesses.
Hehe ... nothing like a network of ESTJs (http://www.despair.com/meetings.html).

[Mr. Beef]

I swear to god....it's like they all form together to form one big ESTJ blob that indiscriminately kills anything in its path.

[Zephyrus055]

Also, keep in mind that though most criminals are generally not INTx, INTxs have the most potential for evil due to their remarkably low empathy. I'm not going to name names.....but i'll give you a hint: He started the holocaust. If that's not purified asshole, then i don't know what is. Hitler was an INFP, not an INTx.

[Mr. Beef]

That's really up for speculation.....he clearly had the remarkable planning abilities of an INTJ, but also the narcissism of a feeling type.....so he could've been any one of the INxx variety really..

[Zephyrus055]

My mom is an ENTJ, and she's very annoying. She barks orders, wants to know if you like your food, and wants to guess what you are thinking or desiring. It's great when I can get in to an intellectual discussion with her, but her sequential style of thinking makes my head spin.

My dad is an INTJ who sometimes devises an elaborate plan against me to get me to change. What an asshole! The funny thing is that an INTP (me) often beats him in his little chess game, mainly because I am ruthless. But he usually leaves me alone, fortunately.

My brother is an ESTJ... and well... he can throw his schedules and list of opinions of shoulds and should nots out the window.

And... I know a ESTP. My INTJ math professor moved him next to me... and it's torture! He won't shut up about his wide variety of sensor topics, nor does he clean his fingernails.

[Zephyrus055]

That's really up for speculation.....he clearly had the remarkable planning abilities of an INTJ, but also the narcissism of a feeling type.....so he could've been any one of the INxx variety really.. His advisors, which were probably INTJs, managed his affairs for him. I'm pretty sure he was an INFP - lazy and spontaneous, richly idealistic, and perhaps even sensitive.

[panda]

nor does he clean his fingernails.
Odd. You would think an ESxx would pay careful attention to such things.

[wildcat]

But then again....I'm INTJ/INTP and i can be an asshole, so....go figure. You have to wonder though.....does the INTx bitterness maybe result as a protective barrier against other people? I mean, living in an ESxJ world i could understand how someone might want to be a dick to everyone. Most likely it's a combo of this and their inherent arrogance. Also, keep in mind that though most criminals are generally not INTx, INTxs have the most potential for evil due to their remarkably low empathy. I'm not going to name names.....but i'll give you a hint: He started the holocaust. If that's not purified asshole, then i don't know what is.
But he wept when he listened to Wagner. But so did Lennie. too..

[Leftfield]

From a non-INTP perspective it is clearly an INTJ, they think they know everything... Out of all the INTJ's I've known they appear to be the most hated by a a random sample of people, but this is out of the subset of INTJ's I know in the Cincinnati area!?!

[nottaprettygal]

Out of all the INTJ's I've known they appear to be the most hated by a a random sample of people, but this is out of the subset of INTJ's I know in the Cincinnati area!?!

Clearly it's just people from Cincinnati that are assholes...not INTJs. Trust me. I know. Why? Because I'm an INTJ.

[eyebyte_atWork]

Clearly it's just people from Cincinnati that are assholes...not INTJs. Trust me. I know. Why? Because I'm an INTJ.



Oh I don;t know about that as I am an asshole - ask my ex-wife.

[Leftfield]

Clearly it's just people from Cincinnati that are assholes...not INTJs. Trust me. I know. Why? Because I'm an INTJ.
What is your issue?

I didn't even use the word asshole and then I am being called one. You take it way too personally, I say this because I have a good friend that is an INTJ and very few people can stand him (yes, they have called him an asshole and I took offence)... but I see him for who he is on the inside.

Get control of your yourself... and your personality...

[nottaprettygal]

What is your issue?

I didn't even use the word asshole and then I am being called one. You take it way too personally, I say this because I have a good friend that is an INTJ and very few people can stand him (yes, they have called him an asshole and I took offence)... but I see him for who he is on the inside.

Get control of your yourself... and your personality...

Whoa whoa whoa. I was just joking around. You know, trying to act like a know-it-all because you said INTJ's are know-it-alls. I only used the word asshole because it's the in the title of the entire thread.

I have no beef with you or the fine people of Cincinnati.

[Leftfield]

Whoa whoa whoa. I was just joking around. You know, trying to act like a know-it-all because you said INTJ's are know-it-alls. I only used the word asshole because it's the in the title of the entire thread.

I have no beef with you or the fine people of Cincinnati.

Yeah, I just re-read what you wrote and misinterpreted it. I feel kinda bad about it since I have nothing against INTJ's since we have so much in common.

I do however have a beef with the some of the people of Cincinnati not accepting my friend AND calling him an asshole, which you in fact could be right all along (about the people), hell of a paradox! :blink: The twist is that he was one of the people I went to Germany with and when we were together in: Cologne, Augsburg, Ulm, Berlin and Paris - everyone appeared to accept him over there for who he was.

[Mr. Beef]

personally i think that ISFPs can be dicks.

[Neppy]

I thought Hitler was an INFP, not an INTx. Keirsey himself has Hitler down as an INFP, I think.

[floyd]

item: I am out for my own personal gain.

score key:
very innaccurate 0.00 ---- 4.00 very accurate

average score: 1.66

mbti score # sd
INTJ 2.21 66 1.14
INTP 1.94 97 1.32
ISTP 1.86 57 1.22
ENTP 1.84 58 1.28
ISTJ 1.82 195 1.22
ESTP 1.79 56 1.22
ENFP 1.76 132 1.21
ENTJ 1.73 40 0.91
ESTJ 1.68 159 1.17
ESFP 1.66 106 1.19
ENFJ 1.48 56 1.06
ISFJ 1.46 97 1.11
INFP 1.42 132 1.13
ESFJ 1.39 149 1.13
ISFP 1.38 48 1.08
INFJ 1.28 54 1.23

[Nighthawk]

The twist is that he was one of the people I went to Germany with and when we were together in: Cologne, Augsburg, Ulm, Berlin and Paris - everyone appeared to accept him over there for who he was.
I lived in Germany for 3 years ... and am of very recent German descent. The Germans seem to revere the J quite a bit ... and they are a bit more stoic/reserved than North Americans. I can see how an INTJ would fit in very well there.

[DeadDove]

I don't think INTP's are assholes at all...the only times I feel that we can come across as asshole is when we are confronted with stupid people...if stupid people didn't exsist I don't feel INTP's would EVER be thought of to be assholes. I'm actually one of the few people that get's along at work with ALL my co-workers, because I can read into what exactly everyone is talking about on a giving situation and understand everyone's own view point rationally. But sometimes people just need to be told flat out..."Your stupid," then if they persisit, then have it explained in painful percering detail why they are stupid. But if you call facts stupid, then every physics/mathametican is an asshole because they go off of facts to prove their hypothesis/point.

[eyebyte_atWork]

After I have reviewed my grudge holding mind - I have to agree that many times I, an INTJ, am the biggest asshole (like my ex has stated on a few momentous occasions). I can see why I may come accross as such - and if other INTJ's are similar I can see why they would also. The general lack of empathy at crucial times are the trademark of the deciding factors that generate this reaction from people.

[Architectonic]

I can't decide which type is the most assholish, but I nominate extroverts in general. (ironically, many extroverts probably consider introverts to be more assholish, but naturally the introverts are right on this one.) :banana:



I thought Hitler was an INFP, not an INTx. Keirsey himself has Hitler down as an INFP, I think.

Who starts these rumors anyway? I strongly doubt it was Keirsey (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=site%3Akeirsey.com+hitler&btnG=Search&meta=).


I really doubt Hitler was an INFP, I haven't seen much evidence to suggest that.

[sasapurdue]

I can't decide which type is the most assholish, but I nominate extroverts in general. (ironically, many extroverts probably consider introverts to be more assholish, but naturally the introverts are right on this one.) :banana:




Who starts these rumors anyway? I strongly doubt it was Keirsey (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=site%3Akeirsey.com+hitler&btnG=Search&meta=).


I really doubt Hitler was an INFP, I haven't seen much evidence to suggest that.
off topic, but i like your avatar! i have asked myself this question many times.

[moni]

haha, oh man, I applaud your patience dealing with him!

I think that ISTJs can be the biggest assholes (from personal experience). Quietly fuming to themselves and then bursting with anger at random moments, deadly annoying with their out of the blue complaints, resistance for hearing another's point of view, will find fault with you, not tell you where, but expect you to change, quick to judge other people before considering their own behavior as faulty in some regard and much much more.

:cry: *sniff sniff*

meh, i agree with hustler though. aren't we lucky to live in a world with a wide range of assholes and bitches?


I would say there is almost no correlation between type and assholery. All types are well represented among the ranks of assholes.

[bcct]

Strange thing is nobody says ENTP is asshole. I met few in my life, some of them are big assholes some are minor assholes. But all assholes. :whistle: (Well, not to the extend that I hate.)

Beneath their friendly faces they are manipulative. They will use whatever friendly ways to acheive their objectives. I know I am generalizing. :D

[Nighthawk]

Strange thing is nobody says ENTP is asshole. I met few in my life, some of them are big assholes some are minor assholes. But all assholes. :whistle: (Well, not to the extend that I hate.)

Beneath their friendly faces they are manipulative. They will use whatever friendly ways to acheive their objectives. I know I am generalizing. :D
A good friend of mine is an ENTP. I certainly would not want to get on his bad side. He can be very manipulative. At work, I've seen him create problems in the minds of management and clients, just so that he can "solve" them and be seen as the savior.