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headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 08:43 PM
im going to get to the point, as best as i can.

I was reading up on the universe and i read somethings that might change my life. I wont go into it all, but

I determined that I am aware. As long as I have been aware I have been aware, if i wasnt aware, i didnt know it.

So, the only thing i know is i have/am a consiousness. But what about others? Do they have a consciousness? I dont truly know if they do. They could be robots. But alot of evidence shows that they do, so that would be a logical assumption.

So people have just as much consiousness as I have. But the only thing I know of is my consiousness. So I tell my self, my brain, that other people are aware of themselves being aware just like me. Is this empathy? Help.


edit: ok its not empathy, but is this how you think?

Rajah
19 Oct 2005, 08:58 PM
I think I'm going to start taking drugs.

meshou
19 Oct 2005, 09:01 PM
Here are my thoughts:

Toss together the conscious and 1/4 tsp salt in a bowl. Drizzle in 1 tsp of the oil, and stir until the conscious is evenly coated. Pour the boiling stock over the conscious, cover the bowl tightly, and set it aside for about 10 minutes. Grind together the cumin, turmeric, coriander, fennel, caraway, and cayenne in a spice grinder or mortar and pestle; set aside.

Set a wok over medium-high heat, pour the remaining oil around the rim, and tilt the pan to coat the sides. Add the onion and stir-fry for 2 to 3 minutes, until translucent. Stir in the garlic and kohlrabi and continue stir-frying for 2 to 3 minutes. Gradually add the bell pepper, beans, and zucchini, stirring all the while.

Add the spice mixture and cook for about 1 minute longer, stirring constantly. Stir in the tomato and stock. Bring the liquid just to a simmer, cover the wok tightly, and cook for 5 to 10 minutes, until the vegetables are just tender. Add salt to taste. Fluff the couscous and mound it on a platter or individual plates. Serve the vegetables on top, garnished with the cilantro, currants, and pistachios.

Serves 4.

Bugeater
19 Oct 2005, 09:02 PM
I read that stuff a few years ago and though it was very interesting, it didn't change my life.

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:14 PM
Here are my thoughts:

Toss together the conscious and 1/4 tsp salt in a bowl. Drizzle in 1 tsp of the oil, and stir until the conscious is evenly coated. Pour the boiling stock over the conscious, cover the bowl tightly, and set it aside for about 10 minutes. Grind together the cumin, turmeric, coriander, fennel, caraway, and cayenne in a spice grinder or mortar and pestle; set aside.

Set a wok over medium-high heat, pour the remaining oil around the rim, and tilt the pan to coat the sides. Add the onion and stir-fry for 2 to 3 minutes, until translucent. Stir in the garlic and kohlrabi and continue stir-frying for 2 to 3 minutes. Gradually add the bell pepper, beans, and zucchini, stirring all the while.

Add the spice mixture and cook for about 1 minute longer, stirring constantly. Stir in the tomato and stock. Bring the liquid just to a simmer, cover the wok tightly, and cook for 5 to 10 minutes, until the vegetables are just tender. Add salt to taste. Fluff the couscous and mound it on a platter or individual plates. Serve the vegetables on top, garnished with the cilantro, currants, and pistachios.

Serves 4.
Oh no.
Is this payback?

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 09:15 PM
I've heard Zucarelli's holophonic sound. On the last Pink Floyd album - "The Final Cut". Headphones not required to get the effect.

Cool concept- holographic universe. Wish I could "tune in to it" enough to feel/see the things he's talking about. I'm somewhat caught up in the Maya, I must admit.

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:19 PM
hey... you. KURANES, how aware are you. Are you me? If so, why cant I tap in to "my" brain? Why cant i make "me" slap "me" (the me = kuranes). You may have come from me (a stream of consiousness broken up and divided into human bodies or whatever), but i am not you...not in a sense translatable in this physical world.

meshou
19 Oct 2005, 09:24 PM
hey... you. KURANES, how aware are you. Are you me? If so, why cant I tap in to "my" brain? Why cant i make "me" slap "me" (the me = kuranes). You may have come from me (a stream of consiousness broken up and divided into human bodies or whatever), but i am not you...not in a sense translatable in this physical world.It's just like the Matrix. Which makes it right.

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:28 PM
what? help me cmon.

you knoow the phrase, "I think therefore I am"? Thats not true. We think because we are. What we think we are is ego, simply because thinking is the process of churning together information from the 5 senses. but the fact that we are aware of our senses..........is this consiousness? do we think and therefore we are? are we nothing but "computers"?

well that doesnt matter, the question i have is are others, including animals, aware of their consious as I am?

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 09:41 PM
I AM you Headphonez. That's what I've been trying to tell you. Just a different you. So I'll sometimes tell you to chill out, but you'll know that its OK, because Kuranes IS you.

"You sit there mes-
merized
by the death of her eyes
and you're just differently you
You got so-o-ul . . . ."

Buffalo Springfield

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:42 PM
so if you are me and I am you...then is that tree outside us?

edit: ok the tree is just matter, like our bodies.

but since you are me and i am you....but but you dont know that do you because i dont know that

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 09:51 PM
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. See how they fly like pigs from a gun , see how they fly. I'm crying. . .

I'm C-R-YYYYYY

I am the eggman - the green eggs man - I am the walrus!!

( Don't you think the Joker laughs at you? )

But this too shall pass . . . .

Nighthawk
19 Oct 2005, 09:53 PM
I think I'm going to start taking drugs.
I know I am ... going to start ... taking more drugs.

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:56 PM
aah fooey
i went to a website and i found out that consiousness is all the neurons bundled up together. *smacks teeth* man. I thought i found out the secret to "life". Man this sucks....kinda....well its not to bad. Atleast now i dont have to be scared when i "die".

Think about it. We sleep for many hours..(some of us do) but in those hours, we are not consious. It is only until after we wake up, we are consious (our nerouns are re-activated)

Well thats how it seems to work in this physical world. It seems were just a hyped up computer. And that means...you are too!

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 09:58 PM
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. See how they fly like pigs from a gun , see how they fly. I'm crying. . .

I'm C-R-YYYYYY

I am the eggman - the green eggs man - I am the walrus!!

( Don't you think the Joker laughs at you? )

But this too shall pass . . . .
do you like koo koo ca koo ca choo?

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 10:03 PM
Do you THINK I like it? Remember . . .I AM you, Headphonez! Take a guess.

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 10:11 PM
haha

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 10:11 PM
Well, DO ya?

*slaps Headphonez as instructed to earlier in thread*

headfonez
19 Oct 2005, 10:12 PM
yes we do

do we like exclamations?

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 10:18 PM
Not as much as we like explanations. And we like asking the questions which provoke the explanations even more.

NoahFence
19 Oct 2005, 10:58 PM
You know, for figments of my imagination, you guys sure do gab a lot.

kuranes
19 Oct 2005, 10:59 PM
No offence taken.

Ivy
19 Oct 2005, 10:59 PM
You know, for figments of my imagination, you guys sure do gab a lot.

Mmmm... fig mints.

eyebyte_atWork
19 Oct 2005, 11:33 PM
No offence taken.



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