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Avengardh
23 Sep 2004, 09:50 PM
I am not sure about other people, but the few INTPs I have talked to seem to block things/feelings/reactions etc, out of their memory or just block or detach.

The feeling, or perhaps not a feeling, that I get sometimes (like right now) is a weird mixture between being really annoyed and being empty. It happens when I am talking to my family sometimes, no exceptions, these are people I really love and such, but why do I get so annoyed at them sometimes?
I tend to detach and also block a lot of things that I don't want to think about, how do you stop this? Is there a way to minimize it? And why do I get so annoyed by my mom just speaking about her feelings?? I know this might have to do with the T, but sometimes I just snap.
Does this happen to anyone else?

~*Aven*~

jimkopelli
23 Sep 2004, 10:00 PM
Yep. I don't ever really get excited about major events (Parents: You've just graduated! How do you feel? Me: Whoop-de-doo. I'm hungry.) I can't really not think about some things, though. I'm really prone to the what-ifs. These are just defense mechanisms, I guess.

s
23 Sep 2004, 10:14 PM
Angst.

*sigh*

Be direct with them and learn to communicate your dislike of the "feeling" speak.

It will likely be better as you get older and you are fully independent from your parent's home. Remember to respect others communication pitfalls as well. INTP's "P" makes us more flexible and open-minded than the J's, so this should naturally keep you from being unyielding. She is likely anxious, too; you will fully understand this when you are a parent and in her shoes. You will not have to make her mistakes, but you will appreciate how parents, like children, still have some evolving to do.


edit: It can be fear based on past trauma, fear of the unknown, anxiety issues in general or plain ol' apathy... or all of the above. I have avoided and blocked out feelings and even whole periods of my life in the past, but I am evolving and beginning to understand this can be (not always though) unhealthy and a waste of life. For me, general fear and lack of self-advocacy held me back.

My P is strong.
:rofl:

Vagabond
23 Sep 2004, 11:01 PM
Hmm. Accept that this is how you are..? We are the way we are for a reason - our defense mechanisms are triggered automatically. I'm not messing with them any more. Why do you want to change it anyway?

Lucas
24 Sep 2004, 04:10 AM
The feeling, or perhaps not a feeling, that I get sometimes (like right now) is a weird mixture between being really annoyed and being empty.

I tend to detach and also block a lot of things that I don't want to think about, how do you stop this?

I know this might have to do with the T, but sometimes I just snap.
Does this happen to anyone else?

~*Aven*~

I feel that detatched feeling too. It's really hard to describe isn't it? I've found that if I just go about my day I'll eventually snap out of it. (que profundo, no?) I wish it didn't happen though.

-Lucas


"A man must have a certain amount of intelligent ignorance to get anywhere." -Charles Kettering

Avengardh
24 Sep 2004, 04:33 AM
Hmm. Accept that this is how you are..? We are the way we are for a reason - our defense mechanisms are triggered automatically. I'm not messing with them any more. Why do you want to change it anyway?

I accept it, I am just wondering if there is a way to minimize it...for the sake of my family really.

~*Aven*~

Avengardh
24 Sep 2004, 04:35 AM
The feeling, or perhaps not a feeling, that I get sometimes (like right now) is a weird mixture between being really annoyed and being empty.

I tend to detach and also block a lot of things that I don't want to think about, how do you stop this?

I know this might have to do with the T, but sometimes I just snap.
Does this happen to anyone else?

~*Aven*~

I feel that detatched feeling too. It's really hard to describe isn't it? I've found that if I just go about my day I'll eventually snap out of it. (que profundo, no?) I wish it didn't happen though.

-Lucas


"A man must have a certain amount of intelligent ignorance to get anywhere." -Charles Kettering

Si...demasiado...hehe.

That is what I do now...but sometimes it doesn't go away at all :/
Thanks for the insight though, everyone.

~*Aven*~

Jezebel
24 Sep 2004, 08:18 AM
I've had a lot of problems with my family over this. My father is definetely an F type and also more openly emotional than I am. I have been called cold and uncaring by him many times. I get very annoyed when I'm around him long enough, and I don't like talking about anything concerning feelings and I don't like being touched. We get along best when there are a few states between us (not all due to what I've mentioned here).

When the person closest to me died, I didn't cry when I watched her dying or at the funeral. I felt pretty numb about it for quite a while afterwards, but now over a year later I'm having dreams/nightmares about it more frequently and I get the feeling it's getting worse instead of better. I've found that when I block things I feel strongly about, it often comes out (expressed or not) when I'm very sleepy.

cloakable
24 Sep 2004, 02:12 PM
I kinda get the feeling (or not feeling) that you get, but the problems just seem to come into clearer focus, with no emotion attached. I dunno. And yeah, s, the best description I can ascribe to it is, indeed, angst.

candela
24 Sep 2004, 08:45 PM
I have no idea what you guys are even talking about. So I guess I don't have the problem.


Parents: You've just graduated! How do you feel? Me: Whoop-de-doo. I'm hungry.I know what he's talking about though. I'm the same way. Sort of on the same subject, what I really hate is when relatives act as if they're obligated to get me gifts for birthdays or christmas, even when I tell them repeatedly not to. They probably feel I'm obligated to get them something too. I don't even follow any form of christianity at all, so I really don't see the point of doing christmas.

Besides, if there's no net change, then what's the point of giving or receiving in the first place?

Google Monster
24 Sep 2004, 08:52 PM
Yeah, I get hungry too.

INTrPosr
24 Sep 2004, 10:17 PM
How interesting. I have been on a terror with my family all week. I have been extremely snappy, espcially toward my oldest daughter. I actually saw the reactions of my family when I left for work this morning. They will be avoiding me all weekend and I can sense it. I really need to apologize for my pent up anguish being directed toward them.

Hmmmm....... I am actually thinking about getting a pint of something strong and staying at the office late to get some work done, just to give them a break from me.

synchronous
24 Sep 2004, 10:28 PM
I accept it, I am just wondering if there is a way to minimize it...for the sake of my family really.

I can relate to the blocking/detachment very well. I am middleaged, and still have that detachment despite the fact that I am married with children. Especially when I was younger, I was called cold/insensitive etc. Often times I don't feel things 'in the moment'. What I do 'feel' goes through the Ne/Ti chamber for processing then slowly to the feeling/heart centre and downwards. There is always a delay, often time several days. I don't think that process will ever change, just maybe the speed at which I'm able to convert thought to feeling/emotion. My tendency is to prefer my NT primary function absolutely, and avoid those activities that engage my inferior S and F functions. In retrospect, I suppose it is these life experiences, as much as they feel awkward, are ones that help balance me out and become less detached.

cloakable
25 Sep 2004, 11:28 AM
Parents: You've just graduated! How do you feel? Me: Whoop-de-doo. I'm hungry.
Yeah, I get hungry too.

:rofl:

CosmicDust
25 Sep 2004, 03:41 PM
You know...maybe it's better to maintain your distance, 'cause if you started firing within the line of fire, you might make the irritating situations worse, or in any case, would have to live with your rivalry with some family member hanging over your head. I've always liked being able to keep my distance from family issues. I'm free of the negativity toward others and the past that people like my dad and big sister hold onto. It's also nice not to be pissed when others are pissed. Not being psyched when others are is a small price to pay...I find my own joys in life.

YourLocalCynic
7 Oct 2004, 05:30 PM
Oh man, I've often wondered if I was the only one blocking things, especially emotions. Also, I do get extremely annoyed when people go on and on about their feelings and such, making me feel like I'm going to just snap if they don't stop. It isn't as if I have a problem with it, or want it to stop, because as far as I can see I'm not really missing anything. I just find it strange. Nice to know I'm not the only one. :)