Things that piss us off

[Seraph]

You know what I'm talking about. These are things that just grate at you like no other, things that other types do that annoy us to no end. I'm gonna start off with my list, and you can just continue it with your own.

1. People who get into your "personal bubble"...Old people do this a lot. They're talking to you, and they get waaaay too close. You want to be polite and listen to what they're saying, but every bone in your body is screaming, I can practically smell your breath and hear your heartbeat, now get the hell out of my bubble!!

2. On a related note, hugs...This is why I hate going to family reunions and holiday get-togethers; because I know I'm gonna have to hug a lot of people. Why do we need hugs? See, this is where the British have it better than us...They don't hug that much. That's cool. Those Brits are okay in my book.

3. People who misspell simple words or are unfamiliar with fairly common words. I mean, come on people. In history class, about half the class didn't know what bombardment was. Even if you've never seen the word in your life, you can pretty much infer what it means. I also hate people who can't fathom prefixes and the like. They waste precious air.

4. Guardians. These are the rigid, anal-retentive people who seem to occupy 86% of teaching jobs. They seek only to impose their creativity-free ideals on the rest of us.

5. Product placements...I mean, how zombielike do they think the general populace is that we see a product logo in a movie and immediately want the product?

6. Schedules. Agendas. Outlines. I think it's cute that they'll statistically work for only 50% of us, but the school expects every single student to use them. And of course there are dire consequences if you don't.

[jimkopelli]

Um... Rants and Raves mean anything to ya?

[Horger]

I'll second everything Seraph says. A few of mine are...

People singing along to music. Unless it's a horrible song that deserves to be ruined, don't sing along to something I'm listening to. I want to experience every bit of music I listen to. It's something deeply important to me.

People that act completely stupid and annoying after they smoke marijuana. Why can't they just relax and enjoy themselves?

People that come into my house, eat my food, and leave my place a mess.

Music that has pops or clicks. It ruins the entire song.

My car.

[libertarianjim]

People who leave bags of chips open. It's not that hard to roll up the top to prevent staleness.

[Jezebel]

Smokers who insist on smoking in the car or in the same room as nonsmokers who don't have the option to leave. Bonus points for the smokers doing it to kids.

[cloakable]

See, this is where the British have it better than us...They don't hug that much. That's cool. Those Brits are okay in my book.

Thank you! I am glad that I live in a society that is more introverted than, say, American society.

I don't really have any gripes.

[Seraph]

People singing along to music. Unless it's a horrible song that deserves to be ruined, don't sing along to something I'm listening to. I want to experience every bit of music I listen to. It's something deeply important to me.

Complete and utter agreement! When I'm listening to music, I get "in the mood" and really delve into the lyrics and tune. When people sing along, it ruins everything.

[NGene]

3. People who misspell simple words or are unfamiliar with fairly common words. I mean, come on people. In history class, about half the class didn't know what bombardment was. Even if you've never seen the word in your life, you can pretty much infer what it means. I also hate people who can't fathom prefixes and the like. They waste precious air.
This is incredibly annoying. Luckily we Finns do it quite rarely, but it just annoys the hell out of me to see people who speak English as their native tongue abuse it. Especially people who mix their/they're/there. ARGH!!! :rant:

BTW, this topic belongs to Rants and Raves... :D

[Sam172]

Especially people who mix their/they're/there.

hehe, I get frustrated with that at times....

[Arioch]

Hmm.. I had a prime example of a annoying person this morning.

Which I shall on second thought post in the rant and rave section

When my P says so. On to answering the orginal post.


You know what I'm talking about. These are things that just grate at you like no other, things that other types do that annoy us to no end. I'm gonna start off with my list, and you can just continue it with your own.

1. People who get into your "personal bubble"...Old people do this a lot. They're talking to you, and they get waaaay too close. You want to be polite and listen to what they're saying, but every bone in your body is screaming, I can practically smell your breath and hear your heartbeat, now get the hell out of my bubble!!

I used to have teachers that did that. I took a pack of chewing gum out of my pocket and pleaded to them to take it. They got the hint.


2. On a related note, hugs...This is why I hate going to family reunions and holiday get-togethers; because I know I'm gonna have to hug a lot of people. Why do we need hugs? See, this is where the British have it better than us...They don't hug that much. That's cool. Those Brits are okay in my book.

I like hugs actually... from the right people at the right time.



4. Guardians. These are the rigid, anal-retentive people who seem to occupy 86% of teaching jobs. They seek only to impose their creativity-free ideals on the rest of us.

Most of the Guardian teachers I've met seem to like my creative work. In fact a remember a few that would hand it bck with a "I loved marking your paper, it was so funny". Which would bewilder me since I never intended to make it funny


5. Product placements...I mean, how zombielike do they think the general populace is that we see a product logo in a movie and immediately want the product?

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the vast majority of people. We're talking about people who pay many times more then something is worth if it brands them. Something people used to reserve for slaves and riffraff


6. Schedules. Agendas. Outlines. I think it's cute that they'll statistically work for only 50% of us, but the school expects every single student to use them. And of course there are dire consequences if you don't.

I used to keep a Agenda although I never was very good at actually doing what it said. I haven' really used one for the last two years. I usually just note what the homework is in my writing book.

[Sam172]

Now that i've had time to think i'll post the things which annoy me:

Puffed up wimps - These types of people really annoy me. You know the sort of people who sort of try and act hard, will occasionally hit you or try to "start a fight" with you....yet you know they will run away as soon as it comes to them possibly loosing. In fact I was punched in the gut by one of these people at the local supermarket earlier this afternoon. I managed to restrain my martial artist friend from kicking him in the head, and just walked away (dragging my friend with me).

Lack of clear packaging - yes I know that it's 100% real chocolate in it, yes I know that it's amazing, yes I know that it's low in fat, yes I can see that it's shiny, red and has a colourful packaging. But where is the information! Being a veggie myself (though trying to lean slowly towards vegan) and until recently having a girlriend with a moderate nut allergy, I have to look at the packaging of things very closely often. Sometimes the things you would least expect to have nuts in....does, or has been made in a factory that uses nuts and therefore they cannot be certain it's free of nuts. Often the information about this is hidden among masses of useless information or shoved in tiny writing at the bottom after it tried to sell itself.

People who complain, then do the same to you - I've been told many times not to try and force vegetarianism upon other people. I respect their right to eat meat, and I don't try to cram tofu down their throats. However when I say "mmm...yummy fake chicken" I get told to be quiet and stop trying to force it upon other people. However a few minutes later someone comes up to me with a bacon butty and says "mmm....isn't this so good, you don't know what you're missing, oh this is lovely *starts wafting the smell towards me*. facy some BACON Sam?"

Impatient drivers - I like to cycle places, and often have to use lots of busy roads to get there. However when I have a car right up behind me I get slightly irate. I'm usually as far into the curb as possible, so I can't help it if i'm trying to be green and save fuel.

Deliberate ignorance - This is the one which really ticks me off. Any time I mention something about global warming, I get shot down by statments of "well it's not going to affect us", "I don't care, and besides I don't know about global warming", "and?, I don't care", "stuff you, i'm doing what I want".

The one good thing to come of ignorance though is the need for me to constantly research things :D. Now I can usually out-argue anyone on why ExxonMobil is evil and why we shouldn't buy petrolium from E$$o stations :)

[ohnoaninfp]

Everything just seems to piss me off now. I am tired.

[Hypnos]

Forced dancing -- was drafted at a party Saturday night.

[BritainOphira]

Deliberate ignorance - This is the one which really ticks me off. Any time I mention something about global warming, I get shot down by statments of "well it's not going to affect us", "I don't care, and besides I don't know about global warming", "and?, I don't care", "stuff you, i'm doing what I want".

The one good thing to come of ignorance though is the need for me to constantly research things :D. Now I can usually out-argue anyone on why ExxonMobil is evil and why we shouldn't buy petrolium from E$$o stations :)

Try living with people who believe that Hummers are the epitome of luxury cars. It's oh so very fun...

Anyway, to further the list:

People who think they know you, when in reality they have no idea.
People who deliberately endanger children and small animals. You have no idea how many of my neighbors let their dogs and children run wild on the road, unsupervised, then raise holy Hell when something happens to them. ("What do you mean my dog got hit by a car? It knows better than to stay on the road...")
Teachers who constantly get their facts wrong, then acted pissed when you attempt to correct them.

There are more, but I am tired, so I'll stop now.

[HairlessBluetick]

People who deliberately endanger children and small animals. You have no idea how many of my neighbors let their dogs and children run wild on the road, unsupervised, then raise holy Hell when something happens to them. ("What do you mean my dog got hit by a car? It knows better than to stay on the road...")

:rant: :rant: Don't even get me started on that one. Cats, too. "What do you mean my cat drowned in your pool? But cats "need" to be outdoors!"

Some of mine:

I hate how everyone thinks they are an expert on dogs/cats just because they had a damn lab mix growing up or some such bullshit. Whenever I try to explain to someone how such-and-such training method is outdated or their description of some behavioral issue is inaccurate, they give this look like "What do YOU know? It's my damn dog, you fucking snob." Nevermind the fact that I'm the one training the dog.

[Vagabond]

People that show no respect to others' needs.

[Avengardh]

Anyway, to further the list:

People who think they know you, when in reality they have no idea.

There are more, but I am tired, so I'll stop now.

I really really dislike that, and people always do it to me, for some reason they think they know me...perhaps it's the fake Extroversion.

I guess that also goes with people judging people, get to know them first, then say they suck.

~*Aven*~

[Niflheimian]

I think I'll add to the list
- gentlemen who wear their pants a foot below their waists
- public displays of affection
- stereotyping (possibly my biggest pet peeve)
- overuse of certain words such as "dude" and "yo"
- loud chewing
- unnecessary and outdated social rituals
- personal use of authority to justify something (ie "Because I'm in charge, that's why.")

And then of course I hate obvious grammatical errors, namely confusion of "you're, your; its, it's; their, they're, there; to, two, too; try to (proper), try and (substandard)," misuse of punctuation, and incorrect spelling.
Who could forgot "was" and "were" ? It's "I wish I were a pot of borsched," not "I wish I 'was' a pot of borsched." In the first person, "were" expresses a wish or desire, usually used in conjunction with "if."

Come on, people. Is it really that hard?

[s]

Even great authors need a peon copy editor; even Einstein needed an assistant to check his math.

INTP's look at the big picture, often neglecting details. I find it rather peculiar to find so many people (self-proclaimed INTPs) irked by detail and exhibiting other J traits. Interesting.

Typos don't bother me that badly on forums. I always assume people are just typing fast little conversational snippets while at the office or sleep deprived.

My pet peeves are menial tasks, mediocre intelligence, and intolerance. My dislike of intolerance predisposes me to forgive the other trespasses, as I try not to be hypocritically intolerant... if that even makes sense. I can handle a feww typoes. ;) Its driving you nuts, huh?

[Spartan26]

INTP's look at the big picture, often neglecting details. I find it rather peculiar to find so many people (self-proclaimed INTPs) irked by detail and exhibiting other J traits. Interesting.

Typos don't bother me that badly on forums. I always assume people are just typing fast little conversational snippets while at the office or sleep deprived.


I went on vacation just long enough to find out how much everybody hates me. :o :o :o

Ya know, I asked for a spell check as soon as I signed on because I know I'll either butcher words or blow through a post too quickly to realize I messed up. Even when I go back to look for boo boos, I don't find them. I mean, if I wasn't smart enough to spell the word correctly in college, when there were ramifications for my ignorance, what are the odds of me learning it now when all I have to face is anonymous scorn?

I, too, find it peculiar that a bunch of alleged intp's would make note of such a thing. :huh: :nerd: :nerd: :huh:

[INTrPosr]

I have so many pet peeves, I would not know where to begin.

I hate sanctimonious types and love to observe them stumbling in their own hypocricy (do as I say, not as I do).

I rarely go to movies because, in addition to not really enjoying the thought of being stuck in a crowded theater, I deplore anyone talking or giving play by play critiques during the movie. I think it has become better over the years, but I usually wait until the movie comes out on tape/dvd.

[MacGuffin]

I hate when J's force me to make a decision or agree to a schedule just for their benefit. I realize that choices must be made, or schedules must be kept in this society. But I hate to do that just to make someone feel better.

And it is usually insignificant stuff. My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares? Why does the trash have to be taken out right now? Will it explode if I take it out 15 minutes later?

I normally like Js, they can keep me organized when I need it. Married to one, had 2 for parents, work with many. But the nitpicky stuff drives me crazy sometimes. Chill out.

[cloakable]

I hate when J's force me to make a decision or agree to a schedule just for their benefit. I realize that choices must be made, or schedules must be kept in this society. But I hate to do that just to make someone feel better.

And it is usually insignificant stuff. My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares? Why does the trash have to be taken out right now? Will it explode if I take it out 15 minutes later?

I normally like Js, they can keep me organized when I need it. Married to one, had 2 for parents, work with many. But the nitpicky stuff drives me crazy sometimes. Chill out.

I generally find that ignoring a J can keep you chilled, and makes THEM stressed. It's great fun. :D

[Google Monster]

does d00d count as one of the overuse words? Cuz das wut eye d00 d00d.

[cloakable]

does d00d count as one of the overuse words? Cuz das wut eye d00 d00d.
*flees, screaming*

*returns with a cattle prod*

*shocks Odd One*
Bad, Odd One, bad!

[MacGuffin]

I hate when J's force me to make a decision or agree to a schedule just for their benefit. I realize that choices must be made, or schedules must be kept in this society. But I hate to do that just to make someone feel better.

And it is usually insignificant stuff. My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares? Why does the trash have to be taken out right now? Will it explode if I take it out 15 minutes later?

I normally like Js, they can keep me organized when I need it. Married to one, had 2 for parents, work with many. But the nitpicky stuff drives me crazy sometimes. Chill out.

I generally find that ignoring a J can keep you chilled, and makes THEM stressed. It's great fun. :D
Yes - unless you live with or work with them. Then that approach causes even more problems.

[s]

INTP's look at the big picture, often neglecting details. I find it rather peculiar to find so many people (self-proclaimed INTPs) irked by detail and exhibiting other J traits. Interesting.

Typos don't bother me that badly on forums. I always assume people are just typing fast little conversational snippets while at the office or sleep deprived.


I went on vacation just long enough to find out how much everybody hates me. :o :o :o

Ya know, I asked for a spell check as soon as I signed on because I know I'll either butcher words or blow through a post too quickly to realize I messed up. Even when I go back to look for boo boos, I don't find them. I mean, if I wasn't smart enough to spell the word correctly in college, when there were ramifications for my ignorance, what are the odds of me learning it now when all I have to face is anonymous scorn?

I, too, find it peculiar that a bunch of alleged intp's would make note of such a thing. :huh: :nerd: :nerd: :huh:

Don't sweat it. My Dad can't spell to save his life, but has quite a high IQ.

[s]

My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares?

I don't get it... do you mean she doesn't like your choice of parking space?

[MacGuffin]

My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares?

I don't get it... do you mean she doesn't like your choice of parking space?
She thinks it would be "better" if I parked closer to the door, or whatever weird conditions she has in her head.

[s]

My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares?

I don't get it... do you mean she doesn't like your choice of parking space?
She thinks it would be "better" if I parked closer to the door, or whatever weird conditions she has in her head.

Oh, I see. Yea, that is annoying. Just park in the first available and walk faster. :)

[Claverhouse]

Without wishing to be at all rude, I doubt if it makes much difference which parking space you decide upon. It'll always be the wrong one.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

Claverhouse is right, McGuffin. You are doomed to pick the wrong one. I could not live with a J, though I am sure she is lovely.

[MacGuffin]

Without wishing to be at all rude, I doubt if it makes much difference which parking space you decide upon. It'll always be the wrong one.



Claverhouse :ph34r:
No, I usually can figure out which space she'd like thinking about it from her perspective. I just usually don't care enough to do that.

She has also learned to not "control" me so much. It pops up every once in a while.

[Claverhouse]

And then of course I hate obvious grammatical errors, namely confusion of "you're, your; its, it's; their, they're, there; to, two, too; try to (proper), try and (substandard)," misuse of punctuation, and incorrect spelling.


Come on, people. Is it really that hard?

[Coolly ]

Actually, although I detest Thomas Jefferson, and he would detest me, we do share a particular trait: that of always using 'it's' for all forms. My reasons are his reasons, independently reached. And I shall never use the vulgar 'its' ever in any sentence.

Come on, you know it's right.



Claverhouse :ph34r:


[ In case anyone misses the pure genius of the last sentence, I'll admire it for them ]

[s]

And then of course I hate obvious grammatical errors, namely confusion of "you're, your; its, it's; their, they're, there; to, two, too; try to (proper), try and (substandard)," misuse of punctuation, and incorrect spelling.


Come on, people. Is it really that hard?

[Coolly ]

Actually, although I detest Thomas Jefferson, and he would detest me, we do share a particular trait: that of always using 'it's' for all forms. My reasons are his reasons, independently reached. And I shall never use the vulgar 'its' ever in any sentence.

Come on, you know it's right.



Claverhouse :ph34r:


[ In case anyone misses the pure genius of the last sentence, I'll admire it for them ]

*nods at the last sentence*

(edited)

[Google Monster]

ouch. umm....






... mooooooo

[Strephonade]

lol!

[cloakable]

I hate when J's force me to make a decision or agree to a schedule just for their benefit. I realize that choices must be made, or schedules must be kept in this society. But I hate to do that just to make someone feel better.

And it is usually insignificant stuff. My wife (a classic J) admits that she can get annoyed if I choose a different parking space than she would have when we go to the grocery store. Who cares? Why does the trash have to be taken out right now? Will it explode if I take it out 15 minutes later?

I normally like Js, they can keep me organized when I need it. Married to one, had 2 for parents, work with many. But the nitpicky stuff drives me crazy sometimes. Chill out.

I generally find that ignoring a J can keep you chilled, and makes THEM stressed. It's great fun. :D
Yes - unless you live with or work with them. Then that approach causes even more problems.

Really? I find I can ignore anything. I suppose it would be different if the object of ignorage was your SO, though. I've never had any problems during work, though.

[howiec]

I think I'll add to the list
- gentlemen who wear their pants a foot below their waists


Some of us really can't help that. I can't find pants that fit, and belts that are small enough are also a precious commodity. I'm happy when I can manage to strap my jeans around any part of my body that is above my crotch.

Anyways, things that piss me off:
1. Conservatives.
2. Crimes against the English language. I do not mind conversational English; some things, however, should carry a life sentence.
3. People who make statements like, "I don't know art but I know what I like," or "I just really don't understand poetry," before even taking the time to turn their brains on. They're are idiots. I would smite them if I weren't a pacifist most days of the week.
4. Random creepy people whose hygeine is uncertain who take it upon themselves to enter into my personal space and even, occaisionally, touch me. I would kill them--pacifism be damed--but that might require getting close to them.
5. George W. and Company.
6. People who think the term "radical militant feminist" is anything but a compliment.

[Niflheimian]

Some of us really can't help that. I can't find pants that fit, and belts that are small enough are also a precious commodity. I'm happy when I can manage to strap my jeans around any part of my body that is above my crotch.

I don't see how it's so difficult to find a pair of well-fitting pants. If you can't find small enough belts and pants in the men's section, the next logical step is to check the youth or children's section, no?

Or maybe you just need to gain weight...;)


Actually, although I detest Thomas Jefferson, and he would detest me, we do share a particular trait: that of always using 'it's' for all forms. My reasons are his reasons, independently reached. And I shall never use the vulgar 'its' ever in any sentence.

Come on, you know it's right.

I'm afraid I don't. "Its" shows possession, "it's" is a contraction for "it is." Why you won't use proper English?!

Perhaps you'd be so kind as to offer an explanation, like what Jefferson's/your reasons were/are.


INTP's look at the big picture, often neglecting details. I find it rather peculiar to find so many people (self-proclaimed INTPs) irked by detail and exhibiting other J traits. Interesting.

Not all INTPs are pure Perceivers, however; some have a fairly high J preference, though not so much that it outweighs the Perceiving preference.

But you do have a point, there are often reasons behind typos besides mediocre intelligence.


Its driving you nuts, huh?

It certainly is! :nerd: And I know that was intentional, missy.

[howiec]

Some of us really can't help that. I can't find pants that fit, and belts that are small enough are also a precious commodity. I'm happy when I can manage to strap my jeans around any part of my body that is above my crotch.

I don't see how it's so difficult to find a pair of well-fitting pants. If you can't find small enough belts and pants in the men's section, the next logical step is to check the youth or children's section, no?

Or maybe you just need to gain weight...;)



They don't sell 26/30s in the youth section, unfortunately.

[Niflheimian]

So you're in between youth and men's sizes?
Does that mean you buy the smallest men's size, or the largest youth size?

Maybe the women's section has something to offer... ;P

[s]

Wow, I could wear 26/30 if I didn't have hips.

[Claverhouse]

Actually, although I detest Thomas Jefferson, and he would detest me, we do share a particular trait: that of always using 'it's' for all forms. My reasons are his reasons, independently reached. And I shall never use the vulgar 'its' ever in any sentence.

Come on, you know it's right.

I'm afraid I don't. "Its" shows possession, "it's" is a contraction for "it is." Why you won't use proper English?!

Perhaps you'd be so kind as to offer an explanation, like what Jefferson's/your reasons were/are.


As you point out there is either a contraction leading to an elision, or a possessive case. In which case, as the old gargoyle pointed out in between fathering half the slave population of Virginia, one uses an inverted comma plus an 's' [ Listening, s ? ], as in: 'their's', 'her's', 'your's', 'our's', 'that loon's', 'party's' [ in say, 'the Party's Manifesto', not: 'the Parties manifesto' ], 'John's', 'Death's Jestbook' etc.; the only exception being 'his', but that being a degenerate form of 'he's', it is scarcely a fit example.

Too much degeneracy about, nowadays; not like when Audumla fed Ymir with her nourishing milk.

But that was before my time.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

[I heard you]

[Claverhouse]

Actually whilst I'm here, I may as well throw in one obscure dislike that I have:

When an actor or actress describes the character they are going to play as if it is a real person. As in an imaginary male being interviewed:


'Ah play Barney. Barney's a real uptight guy, y'know ? A great lawyer, he's top of his class, the best lawyer in der world; but he's real stand-up, y'know ? You can rely on him to allus do the best he can, cos' that's the kinda guy he is. But what people don' realise is that that's the way he is becos he hadda struggle. He hadda struggle to make it outta the trailer park, an' that lef' it's mark on him. Barney ain't never had it easy. But what people don' realise is that he has a very sensitive spirituool side. His daughter nearly died, after his wife died in the car-crash, an' he's hadda bring her up by himself. sorta motha an' fatha. That's why he's dating all these hot chicks. He's gotta forget the tragedy in his life' etc. etc.

For actresses it's a bit easier; all they've got to do is describe the fact that 'Jinny is one strong lady, she don't take no BS from anyone' and add in a few 'feistys', the fact that the character is 'fiercely intelligent', and that 'she can outdo any man'. This consoles women viewers for the tragic situation of their own lives.


But for Heaven's sake: you're bloody mummers; the characters don't exist outside the printed page; the viewers don't need 'history' when watching film: we can work it out for ourselves; don't confuse your portrayal in a movie or TV series with real life.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Niflheimian]

one uses an inverted comma plus an 's' [ Listening, s ? ], as in: 'their's', 'her's', 'your's', 'our's', 'that loon's', 'party's' [ in say, 'the Party's Manifesto', not: 'the Parties manifesto' ], 'John's', 'Death's Jestbook' etc.;

I don't understand. Is it not proper to say "hers; theirs; yours; ours," etc.?
My English dictionaries don't list "her's" or "your's" as words.

And this coming from an Englishman!

[BritainOphira]

Actually whilst I'm here, I may as well throw in one obscure dislike that I have:

When an actor or actress describes the character they are going to play as if it is a real person. As in an imaginary male being interviewed:


It sounds stupid to hear an actor talk like that, but it is actually a fairly common technique used to help get into character. Of course, I've never actually heard an acting coach/teacher recommend doing it aloud in the presense of other humans, but some people are rather dense...

[s]

Ah, iconoclasts... You've gotta love them. :devil:

[Niflheimian]

Yes, especially the older ones.

[MacGuffin]

One thing that really bothers me is when someone moves something in my room, especially when it has been in that position for a long time. I try not to show my inner need to cringe and have my face screw up.

From http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html:


Indeed, less mature INTPs have a reluctance to move objects at all, for the desire to remain detached and not physically interact with the world can be strong.

Sounds like INTP behavior to me!

[Misty_Kye]

Interesting that so many INT...P? folks have a problem with those who are not grammatically inclined. I have a very low P factor (Probably because I admit to making lists and agendas. I don't follow them I just make them.) and have never gotten the hang of grammar or spelling.

My pet peeves:
#1 Being told what to think. The world would be boring if everyone agreed with me (fortunately I am rarely bored). Work with me, convince me, but don’t just tell me that I’m an idiot because I don’t believe in the things that you do.

Arguing for the sake of arguing. When I am in a discussion and the other person takes everything I say and considers only how they can refute it. If the only purpose in talking is to force me into a point of view then you’re wasting my time.
:cry:

People who belittle others: It just seems that there are some people in this world who think so little of themselves that they have to belittle everyone else so they can look good. However, they only pick on people who don’t, won’t or can’t fight back.

:rant: :rant: :rant:

[MacGuffin]

My pet peeves:

Arguing for the sake of arguing. When I am in a discussion and the other person takes everything I say and considers only how they can refute it. If the only purpose in talking is to force me into a point of view then you’re wasting my time.
:cry:


You are in the wrong place then! I love to do that (on unimportant non-work topics).

http://intp.org/intprofile.html:


The INTP may even argue something that he doesn't really believe himself. Sometimes it is for the intellectual stimulation that comes with the challenge of arguing from a variety of standpoints. Otherwise, it may be to avoid early conflict before the situation has been fully assessed. Chameleons hide their true selves. INTPs do not do this cynically, or indeed all the time, but it is a result of the strong desire to remain detached and observe.

Of course arguing for the sake of arguement is slightly different from playing devil's advocate.

[Misty_Kye]

You are in the wrong place then! I love to do that (on unimportant non-work topics). Of course arguing for the sake of arguement is slightly different from playing devil's advocate.

True. I like to play with ideas. Now that I think about it, this may relate back to pet peeve #1. Trying to tell me how to think.

Ah well, It's a big enough pet peeve to be listed twice. :D

[s]

One thing that really bothers me is when someone moves something in my room, especially when it has been in that position for a long time. I try not to show my inner need to cringe and have my face screw up.

From http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html:


Indeed, less mature INTPs have a reluctance to move objects at all, for the desire to remain detached and not physically interact with the world can be strong.

Sounds like INTP behavior to me!

Oh, yea...

I used to literally freak if something was moved an inch! I am a little better now.

Ditto on the arguing from both sides of the aisle.

[MacGuffin]

One thing that really bothers me is when someone moves something in my room, especially when it has been in that position for a long time. I try not to show my inner need to cringe and have my face screw up.

From http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html:


Indeed, less mature INTPs have a reluctance to move objects at all, for the desire to remain detached and not physically interact with the world can be strong.

Sounds like INTP behavior to me!

Oh, yea...

I used to literally freak if something was moved an inch! I am a little better now.

Ditto on the arguing from both sides of the aisle.

You like to argue both sides, or it bugs you?

[cloakable]

I like to argue both sides. Sometimes on my own. Gets me a few odd looks if someone comes in on me arguing with myself. :D :devil:

[s]

Oh, sorry...

I meant that I DO argue both sides (for the sake of better understanding and the search for truth).

[Claverhouse]

My pet peeves:
#1 Being told what to think. The world would be boring if everyone agreed with me (fortunately I am rarely bored). Work with me, convince me, but don’t just tell me that I’m an idiot because I don’t believe in the things that you do.

Arguing for the sake of arguing. When I am in a discussion and the other person takes everything I say and considers only how they can refute it. If the only purpose in talking is to force me into a point of view then you’re wasting my time.
:cry:

People who belittle others: It just seems that there are some people in this world who think so little of themselves that they have to belittle everyone else so they can look good. However, they only pick on people who don’t, won’t or can’t fight back.

Yup to all three. But when it comes to orthodoxies, like the presently prevailing induced assumption that 'Democracy' is, per se, automatically good in itself and best for all, you have been defeated before you engage, because the battle against an immovable mindset is unwinnable. They always know best.

Arguing something you do not believe is probably a sin. The Great King over here, was once being entertained by a main body of England's lawyers: he tactlessly pointed out that he could never be one because he couldn't argue in a wrong cause. The lawyers just smiled, probably.

The third is a form of bullying. Contrary to that which you imply, I believe a/ They do it because they are self-confident and aggressive, thinking, incorrectly, that they are better; b/ They are not cowards, any more than our famed lager-louts are cowards, they are so stupid they'll take on anybody. If they take on someone stronger they get smashed up. And serve them right.

:ph34r: :D


I'm bored all the time, like Nero.

:rofl:



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Google Monster]

Both sides seem to agree with me. But I argue with both sides anyway.

[Almaviva]

Pet peeves:

Really rigid dogmatic thinking. This could be from religion or just from "I'm better than you because I've been doing this x years" or something else.

Superstition to the point of actively denying anything that could contradict the superstition. Like believing in the healing power of magnets and covering one's ears and going "lalalalala!" when someone doubts there is any scientifically plausible explanation, or believes that if you can't show it in controlled conditions, it's BS.

Clique-ism, and contempt for people who act very different from the norm for the sake of having contempt.

People way too fixated and judgemental about superficial things like clothing, and everything being just so in a living space.

[booyalab]

Almaviva, I don't think your attire is appropriate for this forum so I'm going to have to ask you to leave our exclusive intp group...umm, unless you wear a jacket completely covered in healing magnets.

[booyalab]

I get annoyed by people who chew like cows...and also women who wear too much makeup...and stripper shoes..and Rev. Al Sharpton...and people who consider books by people like Michael Moore to be "non-fiction"...and Michael Moore...and being stuck outside on days that are freezing cold AND very windy ...and wood ticks ...and this guy at my work who is complaining about a useless strip mall they tore down to put in a nursing home, because there's ALREADY a nursing home within a 12 mile radius of our city!...and such

[Almaviva]

<quote>Almaviva, I don't think your attire is appropriate for this forum so I'm going to have to ask you to leave our exclusive intp group...umm, unless you wear a jacket completely covered in healing magnets.</quote>

Hah! It's usually more like a "who invited *him*?" look though.

I can't argue with anything on your list except stripper shoes.

[s]

I like iconoclasts like Moore.

[booyalab]

iconoclasts in and of themselves are overrated. I could decry common sense today and proceed to touch a lit stove burner, play in traffic, and mock a police officer...but that wouldn't make me correct or smart.

[booyalab]

unless you meant you already agree with his political stance, but that wouldn't make him an iconoclast to you..right?

[Niflheimian]

...and this guy at my work who is complaining about a useless strip mall they tore down to put in a nursing home, because there's ALREADY a nursing home within a 12 mile radius of our city!...and such

Hmm, wonder if I know anyone there...if you specify the location, I may be able to locate a local chapter of Senior Citizens Advocacy.
:hello:

[booyalab]

since this guy who annoys me has no power to remove the nursing home, I dont know how senior citizens advocacy would be necessary. Although maybe they could go beat him up.

[Niflheimian]

The advocacy is more about the fair treament of seniors, organizing get-togethers, promoting senior awareness, and funding various medical research projects; not so much the establishment of nursing homes.

...but I'm sure an "accident" could be arranged for the fellow at your workplace...

[candela]

I find it funny people are implying people who think they are INTPs and also correct people on spelling are not actually INTPs. There's a sentence for you. Anyway, one of the things I often read in descriptions of INTPs is that they are typically tempted to correct people.

I hate it when people say "ATM machine". I also hate never being sure whether the period goes inside the quotation marks or outside.

edit: I also hate it when people seem to appreciate the musician more than the music they create.

[booyalab]

I find it funny people are implying people who think they are INTPs and also correct people on spelling are not actually INTPs. There's a sentence for you. Anyway, one of the things I often read in descriptions of INTPs is that they are typically tempted to correct people.

I hate it when people say "ATM machine". I also hate never being sure whether the period goes inside the quotation marks or outside.

I'm an INTP and I get tempted to check spelling but I think the trait isn't part of the definition of an INTP. It's sort of like cleanliness vs. messiness (some are clean, some aren't). INTPs do correct people but it's usually on categorical errors. Spelling is pretty arbitrary and more of a characteristic concern among those like ISTJs.

[Niflheimian]

I hate it when people say "ATM machine". I also hate never being sure whether the period goes inside the quotation marks or outside.

If the last word in the sentence is quoted, a period goes inside the quotation marks. However, it's a bit different when there's an exclamation point (rambling...). If the exclamation is part of the quote, it goes within the quotation marks. However, if the exclamation is not part of the quote, place it outside of the quotation marks.

ie. Do not say "ATM Machine"! [correct]

Do not say "ATM Machine!" [incorrect]

[jimkopelli]

They're both wrong.
Automated Teller Machine does not need the word machine after it. It's redundant.

[Avengardh]

More, just cause:

- When teachers think that I am stupid just based on the color of my skin and my race, then they learn they are quite wrong.
- When people get amazed/pissed/intrigued at the fact that I don't drink, party, etc. and I am not religious.
- Annoying people that tell me what to do piss me off...I think I know what I want to do, thanks.

~*Aven*~

[HairlessBluetick]

More, just cause:

- When teachers think that I am stupid just based on the color of my skin and my race, then they learn they are quite wrong.
- When people get amazed/pissed/intrigued at the fact that I don't drink, party, etc. and I am not religious.
- Annoying people that tell me what to do piss me off...I think I know what I want to do, thanks.

~*Aven*~

I second those bottom two. And the first one too, if it applied to me.

[jimkopelli]

Definitely the middle one. First doesn't apply to me... and I ignore people in three usually. Currently, I dislike people trying to find out how I'm gonna vote, and then get annoyed when I tell them I'm not really political.

[Arcael]

I think I'll add to the list
- gentlemen who wear their pants a foot below their waists
- public displays of affection
- stereotyping (possibly my biggest pet peeve)
- overuse of certain words such as "dude" and "yo"
- loud chewing
- unnecessary and outdated social rituals
- personal use of authority to justify something (ie "Because I'm in charge, that's why.")

And then of course I hate obvious grammatical errors, namely confusion of "you're, your; its, it's; their, they're, there; to, two, too; try to (proper), try and (substandard)," misuse of punctuation, and incorrect spelling.
Who could forgot "was" and "were" ? It's "I wish I were a pot of borsched," not "I wish I 'was' a pot of borsched." In the first person, "were" expresses a wish or desire, usually used in conjunction with "if."

Come on, people. Is it really that hard?

I agree with all of the above and I'll add one myself

-15 year olds arguing with me about how I cant see the "Big Picture" in politics.

[Boozer]

I have pretty bad spelling and grammar.
I had hoped to leave my english teachers back in class, where they belong.

[SensEye]

- When people get amazed/pissed/intrigued at the fact that I don't drink, party, etc. and I am not religious.
~*Aven*~

I don't know why this would annoy you. I am amazed/intrigued at people who don't drink, party, etc. if they are not held back by some religious moral code.

The vast majority of people consider those things fun. So it is intriguing that either: you don't consider those things fun or you don't like having fun, whichever the case may be.

[Almaviva]

I don't find drinking much fun at all. Every now and then I'll have a few beers, but it just makes me depressed and wanting to take a nap. And I'd literally rather be at the dentist than at a party most of the time. Unfocused socialization really sets me to trying to figure out the quickest way to tactfully exit a situation.

[crule81]

Try Red Bull and Vodka - you won't be depressed and you certainly won't feel like taking a nap. This potent mixture has actually allowed me to enjoy dancing at clubs. Just don't drink too much of it or you'll never go to sleep.

[HairlessBluetick]

Try Red Bull and Vodka - you won't be depressed and you certainly won't feel like taking a nap. This potent mixture has actually allowed me to enjoy dancing at clubs. Just don't drink too much of it or you'll never go to sleep.

Finally I've found someone else who drinks Red Bull. I thought I was single-handedly (sp?) keeping the company afloat. I don't add anything, though... but I have been known to drink five or six at a time. You're right. You'll never go to sleep. I was up for days after that. It was some party. :D

[crule81]

I haven't had any in several months. I used to drink it all of the time before I worked out. I was supposed to help you with endurance. The problem with Red Bull and drinking is that it has made me a bit insane on occasion. I simply cannot shut up and insist on lecturing people on strange subjects despite the fact that it is blatantly obvious they want me to shut up. But it's so much fun to become an E for a few hours.

[HairlessBluetick]

I haven't had any in several months. I used to drink it all of the time before I worked out. I was supposed to help you with endurance. The problem with Red Bull and drinking is that it has made me a bit insane on occasion. I simply cannot shut up and insist on lecturing people on strange subjects despite the fact that it is blatantly obvious they want me to shut up. But it's so much fun to become an E for a few hours.

:D Indeed. I've been totally addicted to the stuff for almost two years, and that is precisely why. That and it helps me deal with "normal" stuff like filing paperwork, deadlines, etc.

[crule81]

Except that I tend to pace back and forth or shake my legs constantly while sitting. Sometimes it was difficult to sit still and get work done. But I used to call it the nectar of the gods. I still think it's too good to be true, however. There has to be some bad health effect like cocaine or speed.

[MacGuffin]

Try Red Bull and Vodka - you won't be depressed and you certainly won't feel like taking a nap. This potent mixture has actually allowed me to enjoy dancing at clubs. Just don't drink too much of it or you'll never go to sleep.

Finally I've found someone else who drinks Red Bull. I thought I was single-handedly (sp?) keeping the company afloat. I don't add anything, though... but I have been known to drink five or six at a time. You're right. You'll never go to sleep. I was up for days after that. It was some party. :D

Mmmmm Red Bull and vodka!

I usually don't drink it cause I like to get to sleep when I am done drinking, but when I do I overdose on it.

I just bought 3 cans of the sugarfree for "just in case" last week.

[HairlessBluetick]

Wow, you mean people really drink that sugar-free stuff? how is it?

[Niflheimian]

Wow, you mean people really drink that sugar-free stuff? how is it?

Decent...you get used to it. :cheers:

[MacGuffin]

Wow, you mean people really drink that sugar-free stuff? how is it?

Decent...you get used to it. :cheers:

yeah, it is not as good, but not horrible either. And it cuts down on those carbs!

[Tatsuboshi]

yeah, it is not as good, but not horrible either. And it cuts down on those carbs!

Somehow, your Vader icon has just the perfect gesture for that statement... if only he was holding a sugar-free Red Bull can in the other hand... :rofl:

Great, now I have James Earl Jones saying "And it cuts down on those carbs!" in my head.

[Boozer]

Luke, join me in the Atkins diet, and we shall rule the galaxy!

[MacGuffin]

Luke, join me in the Atkins diet, and we shall rule the galaxy!
Vader: Actually, it is the South Beach Diet.

That reminds me of something I read yesterday. People on another forum were looking for costume suggestions for Halloween. One wrote in that a friend got a Darth Vader mask but also dressed in a Hawaiian shirt, shorts and sandals. "Vader on Vacation"! :D

What the fuck is this thread about again? I have no idea on the reply page.

[ohnoaninfp]

red bull, yuck! Give me Barqs rootbeer or cream soda and I will be fine. Mmmmm Rootbeer!!!

[ohnoaninfp]

red bull, yuck! Give me Barqs rootbeer or cream soda and I will be fine. Mmmmm Rootbeer!!!

[shaytana]

Red Bull gives you wings!

Those commercials piss me off.

[Avengardh]

- When people get amazed/pissed/intrigued at the fact that I don't drink, party, etc. and I am not religious.
~*Aven*~

I don't know why this would annoy you. I am amazed/intrigued at people who don't drink, party, etc. if they are not held back by some religious moral code.

The vast majority of people consider those things fun. So it is intriguing that either: you don't consider those things fun or you don't like having fun, whichever the case may be.

To me it's simple common sense, I am not interested in drinking, aside from the fact that it harms my body.

And exactly because the vast majority of people consider those things fun is another reason why I don't do it *shrug*. Never liked conforming...lots of Mexicans also drink themselves silly, it's looked at as a norm in Mexico to drink, I think even more so than here...so I go against that too; just alienates me more I suppose, but I don't much care.

And yeah, I am not religious either, many have tried to convert me, I guess I just have strong principles.

~*Aven*~

[Hypnos]

And exactly because the vast majority of people consider those things fun is another reason why I don't do it *shrug*. Never liked conforming...lots of Mexicans also drink themselves silly, it's looked at as a norm in Mexico to drink, I think even more so than here...so I go against that too; just alienates me more I suppose, but I don't much care.
Being reactionary is no better than conforming. Keep an open mind, do what you want.

[crule81]

And yeah, I am not religious either, many have tried to convert me, I guess I just have strong principles.

Yeah, this is something that pisses me off too. Once I was sitting in a cafeteria at grad school and this very pretty girl sat at the table next to me and just began talking to me. At first I thought it was great that a pretty girl would initiate a conversation with me. But then I began to think she had alterior motives. Of course it ended up that she wanted me to check out her church and started talking about her personal relationship with Jesus and all that. I just politely told her that I was not interested in religion at this point in my life. But she kept going on despite my polite refusal. What was most annoying is that she got my hopes up at first.

Another time I had to sit next to this couple on a flight across the country who wouldn't stop trying to convert me and throwing out various Bible quotes. I don't mind if people do these things politely, but it bothers me when they won't stop even after I have expressed my disinterest.

[Claverhouse]

What was most annoying is that she got my hopes up at first.
Tricky little devils, these evangelists.



Another time I had to sit next to this couple on a flight across the country who wouldn't stop trying to convert me and throwing out various Bible quotes. I don't mind if people do these things politely, but it bothers me when they won't stop even after I have expressed my disinterest.
Strong measures are called for in these situations. You should have started talking about your 'Little Soldier' & suggested they might like a threesome once the flight grounded.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[crule81]

Strong measures are called for in these situations. You should have started talking about your 'Little Soldier' & suggested they might like a threesome once the flight grounded.

The wife was very pretty. Many very religious people can be kinky. A threesome with a guy on the other end, however, would require consumption of more of the mini liquor bottles than the plane held.

[SensEye]

To me it's simple common sense, I am not interested in drinking, aside from the fact that it harms my body.

And exactly because the vast majority of people consider those things fun is another reason why I don't do it *shrug*. Never liked conforming...lots of Mexicans also drink themselves silly, it's looked at as a norm in Mexico to drink, I think even more so than here...so I go against that too; just alienates me more I suppose, but I don't much care.

And yeah, I am not religious either, many have tried to convert me, I guess I just have strong principles.

~*Aven*~

Just for clarity, I was not questioning your decision not to drink, just that you would be annoyed people find it unusual. As you say yourself, most people who don't have a religious taboo against it consider it fun.

Now that I have said all this, I understand you where just making an off the cuff rant and I really shouldn't pay it much heed. :blink:

[Avengardh]

To me it's simple common sense, I am not interested in drinking, aside from the fact that it harms my body.

And exactly because the vast majority of people consider those things fun is another reason why I don't do it *shrug*. Never liked conforming...lots of Mexicans also drink themselves silly, it's looked at as a norm in Mexico to drink, I think even more so than here...so I go against that too; just alienates me more I suppose, but I don't much care.

And yeah, I am not religious either, many have tried to convert me, I guess I just have strong principles.

~*Aven*~

Just for clarity, I was not questioning your decision not to drink, just that you would be annoyed people find it unusual. As you say yourself, most people who don't have a religious taboo against it consider it fun.

Now that I have said all this, I understand you where just making an off the cuff rant and I really shouldn't pay it much heed. :blink:

Yes, this is what loss of sleep does to me...but yeah, the latter sentence helps on cutting me some slack, I thank thee :D

Well, it annoys me after so many times, it's not like it annoys me once, people just repeatedly keep wanting to get me drunk when I say I don't drink (the second most common question after this is "are you religious?" to what I say no...then they want to see me drunk), which is in turn really quite annoying...I would think it would annoy anyone after it has happened countless times.

I think it has to do with the whole "you are judging me without knowing me" effect that people seem to like to resort to.

I hope that cleared it up...woke up from a nap just now.

~*Aven*~