Whay did God make so little INTPs

[Aryan]

evolution of human mind has taken place in such a way that we as INTPs are left as minorites while ESxx types are a majority.
( i cannnot seem to find out the exact reason ? )

Guess god must hate or fear us thats why he made so little of us and he must love others and thats why he made so many of them?

PS: i am something between an atheist and an agnostic
But not a theist at least

[Johnny]

Maybe because food needs to appear on the table at some point, and a logical proof isn't going to cut it? :sombrero:

[s]

Maybe because food needs to appear on the table at some point, and a logical proof isn't going to cut it? :sombrero:


Hear, hear!

[Parliament style chair rapping in approval]

Well said, Johnny Boy.

:rofl:

[Birnam]

Leaving God out of it (since the majority of us here aren't theists.. why bring it up?)

Why are there less INT's? What would the world really be like if there were more of us? Sure sure, we would make everything perfect and work well ... *right*.

Just imagine, if we were all INTPs- there would be no one to implement our ideas, we would just be running after each new shiny idea and forgetting the old one. Stupid detail work would never get done... really, there are a lot of things we would suck at. (edit- like Johnny said.. food does not grow on trees .. oh, wait, yes it does.. :nerd: )

[INTP ego trip]
To go back to the God question- obviously he made less of us as we are awesome and can hold our own against the rest of the world though we are small in number. We are the few gold coins outweighing the many copper ones ;)
[/INTP ego trip]

[Johnny]

:rofl:

:rofl:

[Tatsuboshi]

If we assume it's a nature thing, wouldn't it be likely that INTP is the result of mainly recessive genes, and thus there are relatively few in the populace?

(beware: Comp Sci major ponitificating on biology :ph34r:)

[Utopmk]

Quality, not quanity. happppy

[Avengardh]

Because we would kill each other eventually.

(Not like that isn't going to happen later on anyway).

~*Aven*~

[Utopmk]

Because we would kill each other eventually.

(Not like that isn't going to happen later on anyway).

~*Aven*~

I smell a new reality television show.

[Avengardh]

Because we would kill each other eventually.

(Not like that isn't going to happen later on anyway).

~*Aven*~

I smell a new reality television show.

Heh.

Hasn't this been done yet?? I would think...or are you referring to placing a bunch of NTs on an island or something and seeing who is left at the end?

~*Aven*~

[Johnny]

No mistaking the smell of success...

[SensEye]

Because we would kill each other eventually.

(Not like that isn't going to happen later on anyway).

~*Aven*~

I smell a new reality television show.

Here's what your looking for: http://www.series7movie.com/

It's not bad, actually.

[s]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

[Avengardh]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

Hn, IMing != killling.

I would guess so, but there would also be other NTs, now that raises another question, out of all the NTs, which type would survive? (Yes, I know this is fairly generalized).

~*Aven*~

[s]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

Hn, IMing != killling.

I would guess so, but there would also be other NTs, now that raises another question, out of all the NTs, which type would survive? (Yes, I know this is fairly generalized).


~*Aven*~

Sad as I am to say: I think ENTJ's (generally) would shove an INTP into the proverbial locker after giving 'em an atomic wedgie. In a lord of the flies situation, however, I think the INTP is crazier... giving them an edge.

[Avengardh]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

Hn, IMing != killling.

I would guess so, but there would also be other NTs, now that raises another question, out of all the NTs, which type would survive? (Yes, I know this is fairly generalized).


~*Aven*~

Sad as I am to say: I think ENTJ's (generally) would shove an INTP into the proverbial locker after giving 'em an atomic wedgie. In a lord of the flies situation, however, I think the INTP is crazier... giving them an edge.

Yeah! We killed Piggy!
:rofl:

~*Aven*~

[Johnny]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

Hn, IMing != killling.

I would guess so, but there would also be other NTs, now that raises another question, out of all the NTs, which type would survive? (Yes, I know this is fairly generalized).


~*Aven*~

Sad as I am to say: I think ENTJ's (generally) would shove an INTP into the proverbial locker after giving 'em an atomic wedgie. In a lord of the flies situation, however, I think the INTP is crazier... giving them an edge.

Yeah! We killed Piggy!
:rofl:

~*Aven*~

Now I'm hungry...

[s]

BBQ anyone? :rofl:

Ah, good times.

[synchronous]

Sad as I am to say: I think ENTJ's (generally) would shove an INTP into the proverbial locker after giving 'em an atomic wedgie.

Hmm, yes, you've got that right. I was married to an ENTJ. That is pretty well how it felt like after the divorce was final. lol. I'm laughing now, but, it wasn't so funny then...

[s]

Sad as I am to say: I think ENTJ's (generally) would shove an INTP into the proverbial locker after giving 'em an atomic wedgie.

Hmm, yes, you've got that right. I was married to an ENTJ. That is pretty well how it felt like after the divorce was final. lol. I'm laughing now, but, it wasn't so funny then...

Sorry to hear... but oh so ... funny! :rofl:

[Hypnos]

Screw God -- we just don't reproduce as rapidly, because INTPs suck at both acquiring mates and being acquired as mates.

[Avengardh]

Screw God -- we just don't reproduce as rapidly, because INTPs suck at both acquiring mates and being acquired as mates.

When it comes to reproducing, it can be done :D.
Artificial insemination, imagine, a nation of NTs.


~*Aven*~

[GraviTass]

Because they don't know their count nouns from their mass nouns (LOL)

[Vagabond]

Guess god must hate or fear us thats why he made so little of us and he must love others and thats why he made so many of them?

PS: i am something between an atheist and an agnostic
But not a theist at least
I don't see how one can be a non-theist or an atheist and still believe God created us.

[Spartan26]

Because we would kill each other eventually.

(Not like that isn't going to happen later on anyway).

~*Aven*~

I smell a new reality television show.

Here's what your looking for: http://www.series7movie.com/

It's not bad, actually.

"I"m gonna get out there and I'm gonna blow that dirty ol' man's head off!"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Some really amazing lines in that film. :cheers:
I wish I could think of something like it. Something where having cheaper production values is actually a necessity for shooting.

[CosmicDust]

Screw God -- we just don't reproduce as rapidly, because INTPs suck at both acquiring mates and being acquired as mates.
Something along those lines makes sense. Genes and other circumstances just don't combine in a way that makes INTP's very often, and that could well be because such a combination is not an efficient procreator.

[cloakable]

Screw God -- we just don't reproduce as rapidly, because INTPs suck at both acquiring mates and being acquired as mates.

Yeah, I seem to get that problem, too. It's probably a good thing though - if the population of 'mad scientist' types got too high, the world would probably implode. Or something like that.

[Boozer]

Curses! Foiled again!

*throws out Replace All Sperm Bank Sperm with My Own Plan*

And I would've gotten away with it too...

*insert mad scientist cackle*

[Claverhouse]

Leaving God out of it (since the majority of us here aren't theists.. why bring it up?)

Certes, the Religion Poll is unrepresentative since only 65 out of 200 plus have voted, although some members never post, from which one may deduce they would either be too shy to vote or that they are no longer with us ( in a purely online sense: they will always be with us in our hearts ), nevertheless, a majority, 30, put Spiritual/Religious against 28 Atheist/Non-believer, with 7 having no opinion. So the majority on the board are probably theists.


And serve you right. ;P



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Seraph]

:rofl:

:rofl:

Man, that was the great... as good or better than Baron Otto's reference.
As far as INTP's on an island... will they be allowed to IM each other?

Hn, IMing != killling.

I would guess so, but there would also be other NTs, now that raises another question, out of all the NTs, which type would survive? (Yes, I know this is fairly generalized).

~*Aven*~

Well, going by Survivor rules of thumb...

1. The leader always gets voted off early. (There goes the ENTJ)

2. Introversion is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it's an extroverted game, and you need to get along with your tribemates. On the other hand, being under-the-radar can win you the game.

I think our extroverted buddy the ENTP would win. They're clever.





And on topic...the answer's right under our noses!

God created so few of us, because he knew none of us would believe in him!!

[s]

I am married to a crafty ENTP and I still think we would "Kill Piggy." :D

I think Johnny summed it up best early in the thread.

(There are quite a few theists among us.)

(edited)

[Google Monster]

My bro used to talk about a movie with "piggy" in it. Which movie is that?

[s]

Lord of the Flies! A must see/read.

[Claverhouse]

My bro used to talk about a movie with "piggy" in it. Which movie is that?

Something from Walt Disney's middle period ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

Have you have seen it, Claverhouse?

[Avengardh]

I am married to a crafty ENTP and I still think we would "Kill Piggy." :D

I think Johnny summed it up best early in the thread.

(There are quite a few theists among us.)

(edited)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Awsome, awsome.

[Claverhouse]

[ Staring back into the vistas of depression ]

At school in England we had to read portions of it in turn. And the poor **** who decreed this barbaric practice never once realised the poignant message of the book. Which is that people suck. ( As the divine Carey in Dweebs succinctly put it ).


Still, there was worse: Arnold Wesker for one, of whom I hope your pure mind has never heard. And a rotten play called 'Hobson's Choice'. The inhumanity never stopped.

Yup, I think I've seen the film also. in parts. 1960s B/W ? I never really care for single-sex films.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

Lord of the Flies characters here: http://www.rit.edu/%7esjg2490/lotf/characters.html

Piggy is an introvert, but I do not think a INTP.

edit: Damn, I hope not anyway. I am guessing an ISFP, "The Idealist."

PIGGY!!!!!

[s]

[ Staring back into the vistas of depression ]

At school in England we had to read portions of it in turn. And the poor **** who decreed this barbaric practice never once realised the poignant message of the book. Which is that people suck. ( As the divine Carey in Dweebs succinctly put it ).


Still, there was worse: Arnold Wesker for one, of whom I hope your pure mind has never heard. And a rotten play called 'Hobson's Choice'. The inhumanity never stopped.

Yup, I think I've seen the film also. in parts. 1960s B/W ? I never really care for single-sex films.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

There is that version and one from 1990. The plot outline was "Stranded on an island, a group of schoolboys degenerate into savagery."

Really, single sex films? Why is that or can you say? Luckily, I was spared those plays, being an American, I suppose. I imagine Tennessee Williams and Faulkner are not as popular on your side of the pond.
(Not that they are the same caliber)

[Avengardh]

Lord of the Flies characters here: http://www.rit.edu/%7esjg2490/lotf/characters.html

Piggy is an introvert, but I do not think a INTP.

edit: Damn, I hope not anyway. I am guessing an ISFP, "The Idealist."

PIGGY!!!!!

Gods, you must stop! :rofl: just kidding.

Hehehe, tears of joy. I sure hope he isn't either, but he does seem like an idealist alright, him and his nice little "let's be friends" crap, pffft.

~*Aven*~

[greenintp]

You know what they say about too much of a good thing...

[Google Monster]

...makes ya forget about the bad.

[Universal]

You think we INTP's are the best? INTP is a mathod to handle all kind of information, that's all! It does not mean we are smarter! Yes we do analyse everything like idiots there is no need in that at all! We only using our energy!
INTP are just as good as all other types.
And you don't born an INTP, your born like nothing, you become an INTP/ you become nothing.

[Aryan]

Well that i gave the title why did god create so little INTPs doesnt mean necessarily i'm attributing to god.
I am infact trying to point out what went out in the course of the evolution so that only 1 % of the population is of our type.

[MacGuffin]

"little INTPs"? I am actually fairly tall.

[Johnny]

...your born like nothing, you become an INTP/ you become nothing...

Perhaps, but the issue is that there are so few of us who possess this personality preference. What is the reason for this? Why haven't we become extinct for our rarity?

Could it be because only the chosen few reach such greatness? :lol:

[SensEye]

Why haven't we become extinct for our rarity?


Ahhh, but what we really need to know is the trend. That is, are INTPs becoming more or less prevelant compared to centuries ago. We may be a beneficial mutation that is just now working its way through the popluation.

I seem to have no problem imagining neanderthals (or more importantly, that strain of early humans that didn't die out, cromagnon? homo erectus? whatever) as predominantly SJ. :rofl:

[jimkopelli]

Could it be because only the chosen few reach such greatness? :lol:
That's it! ...or not.

[Universal]

What's so great about INTP's?

[Johnny]

What's so great about INTP's?

If you don't already know, it's likely that you'll never know... :lol:

[jimkopelli]

He didn't get the memo...:nerd:

[Universal]

You think your genius?

[cloakable]

You think your genius?
*raises eyebrow*
Somebody's getting confrontational, aren't they?
I cannot speak for the other people on this forum, but no, I do not think I am a genius. Smart yes, but not a genius. How did you come to that conclusion? I thought it would have been obvious what we are talking about (to an INTP at least) what we are talking about.

[Johnny]

Just because some folks (e.g., Descartes, Einstein) are attributed with this personality preference in the MBTI, I don't see that it then follows that I am Descartes or Einstein, or even that these two men were similar beyond the (questionable) assertion that they preferred Jung's introverted thinking function.

You are not at all disqualified from "genius" status Universal, if indeed this is your fear, simply because Socionics or MBTI does not support you as preferring INTP. You're going to have to work a little harder than that for such a title...make a music video... :lol:

[jimkopelli]

Now that... that would be scary. I don't think I'm a genius, I just know that I know more people that are dumber than me than I know people that are smarter than me. I know a few people who can run mental circles around me... and I don't begrudge them that. You can't help being who you are.

[s]

From Wikipedia:

"To distinguish between a prodigy, a genius must also have created or brought in something new in an established field, usually, the sciences, math, literature, chess, art, and music."

"In modern usage, a 'genius' is a person with distinguished mental prowess. This can manifest either as a foremost intellect, or as a creative talent. The term also applies to one who is a polymath, or someone skilled in many mental areas. The term does specifically apply to mental rather than athletic skills, although it is also used to denote the possession of a superior talent in any field; eg, one may be said to have a genius for golf. "

Polymaths are not always genius.

I think you have to prove yourself worthy of the genius label.

I am a "gifted" polymath, who is not bold enough to use the term genius. Genius is a title that must be earned.

[Johnny]

Well, at least you've got wristbands and a theme song... :lol:

[CloudofOlivia]

Quite possibly, because there are so few of us in the world, maybe the kind of task that we are to fulfill are very rare, something not many would be able to do, or have an interest in doing. Hmmm...a traveling photographer/journalist? a cryptologist for the NSA? mad computer scientist?

[CloudofOlivia]

Is this Arash by any chance?

[Aryan]

So u mean CloudofOlivia our ability makes us rare, becoz very few people have abilities like us ?
Well then why is that so?
Why do people lhaving ESXX abilities are so many in numbers ?

[s]

Well, at least you've got wristbands and a theme song... :lol:

... and I can change my outfit by twirling around. Oh yea, and I have a fanclub. ;)

[int]

...Oh yea, and I have a fanclub. ;)

Link?

:rofl:

[Strephonade]

Maybe it's just a hunch, but what if there are really a lot more INTx type people out there we're just now beginning to encounter through the availability of the 'net? After all, it isn't easily that an intp relinquishes his/her privacy.

I wonder how the people who first came up with personality typing got their figures?

[Laeskis]

Once there were many INTPs. Fire, the wheel, the printing press...all this came from someone who thinks.... But most of that genetic material said bye bye to the gene pool a long time ago.
There was the Inquisition and nearly all of those types were burnt as heretics.

**Good thing it's not the middle ages anymore, INTPs are an endangered species as it is...**

j/k

[Arcael]

**Good thing it's not the middle ages anymore, INTPs are an endangered species as it is...**

j/k

:rofl:

Quantum Mechanics?!?!?
BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!

[Laeskis]

the burning at the stake isn't the worst part.
when you get the chance, ask Galileo how he liked hanging around in purgatory for 500 years.
And just think of all those poor guys that everybody forgot about.

[Arioch]

Once there were many INTPs. Fire, the wheel, the printing press...all this came from someone who thinks.... But most of that genetic material said bye bye to the gene pool a long time ago.
There was the Inquisition and nearly all of those types were burnt as heretics.

**Good thing it's not the middle ages anymore, INTPs are an endangered species as it is...**

j/k

Hmm... doesn't account for other countries. They were relatively fewer victims then you might think of the dark ages.

[Laeskis]

heh, maybe they went into the mountains to meditate...and subsequently died out without having reproduced. I Dunno.

[Dr. Caligari]

We may only make up 3.3% of the total population, but there are still plenty of us to go around. Assuming the world population is exactly 6 billion, this would mean that there are 198,000,000 of us, or approximately 1.329 INTPs every square kilometre. Of course, I'm not taking into consideration important factors like age, so that one factor alone may significantly reduce that 198,000,000 or 1.329 INTPs every square km. Bah.

[Aryan]

Smart statistics !

[Claverhouse]

We may only make up 3.3% of the total population, but there are still plenty of us to go around. Assuming the world population is exactly 6 billion, this would mean that there are 198,000,000 of us, or approximately 1.329 INTPs every square kilometre. Of course, I'm not taking into consideration important factors like age, so that one factor alone may significantly reduce that 198,000,000 or 1.329 INTPs every square km. Bah.

Of course, all of this discussion ignores the fact that 'typing' may apply to other animals than the human primate; so extrapolating the same percentages towards the larger populations of at least the higher animals, mammals, birds and fish, will give far larger returns.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[PsiKik]

Curses! Foiled again!
*throws out Replace All Sperm Bank Sperm with My Own Plan*
And I would've gotten away with it too...
*insert mad scientist cackle*

Great idea for horror/sci-fi film! Evil aliens carry out your plan!
Or what about starting a sperm bank where all the 'supplies' are actually yours...
Or become a fertility doctor and do the same....