View Full Version : Are NT's Worldly?
aether
23 Nov 2005, 07:08 AM
According to the following profile they are not. :
NT"s are analytical, impersonal, intellectual, rather unworldly, tend to be absent-minded, and forget appointments. They continually try to acquire new skills, and pride themselves on their skills, efficiency and logic. They think the real world is a mutable network of logical possibilities, moved by skills.
Is this true of INTP's as well?
jyakulis
23 Nov 2005, 07:12 AM
i dunno man, don't let some personality description define who you are......be yourself.
and to the original question...i have no idea
Helios
23 Nov 2005, 09:50 AM
I'd say it depends on the definition. I'd say I could be number 1, but certainly not 2 or 3.
Definitions:
1. experienced in life: experienced in and knowledgeable about human society and its ways
2. belonging to physical world: relating to everyday material existence
all my worldly goods
3. materialistic: much more interested in everyday materialistic concerns than in the spiritual side of life
Xander
23 Nov 2005, 03:08 PM
Sounds like it was written by some one with a slight downer on NTs.
We do seem to lack some of the well worn characteristics, such as having made our minds up on lots of things, but thats not really the same thing.
It does say in some descriptions that I have read that INTPs, in particular (as thats usually the one I'm reading, tend towards emotional immaturity which I suppose could have some influence on it. But I don't believe them.
SO THERE!
*sulk*
eyebyte_atWork
23 Nov 2005, 03:13 PM
Depends on the definition or worldy.
I always took that to mean
worldy = concerned with status and such.
Madrigal
23 Nov 2005, 03:17 PM
unworldly
adj 1: not concerned with the temporal world or swayed by mundane
considerations; "was unworldly and did not greatly
miss worldly rewards"
2: not wise in the ways of the world; "either too
unsophisticated or too honest to promise more than he
could deliver"; "this helplessly unworldly woman"
I hate recurring to the dictionary (ugh, I use the dictionary constantly because I'm a translator), but I wasn't very familiar with the term.
When I think of the word 'unworldly', I think of not fitting in with the structures and expectations imposed by the 'real world'. But I guess that's my own definition.
Some are some aren't. Same with any other type.
The quote was stupid.
Xander
23 Nov 2005, 03:29 PM
unworldly
adj 1: not concerned with the temporal world or swayed by mundane
considerations; "was unworldly and did not greatly
miss worldly rewards"
2: not wise in the ways of the world; "either too
unsophisticated or too honest to promise more than he
could deliver"; "this helplessly unworldly woman"
Type 1. Oh yeah thats what I think of INTP in a nutshell!!!
Type 2. Absolutely not. Especially if your enneagram 9!
DeadDove
23 Nov 2005, 03:44 PM
The quote was stupid.
Such an INTP thing to say.
waxwing
23 Nov 2005, 04:21 PM
I can't help immediately thinking of "worldly" in church terms, as in, worldly versus "godly." I had far too much early childhood training in the biblical notion: "We are in the world, but not of the world."
If you understand the word "worldly" to mean "attached to or cognizant of what is material/tangible," I am not. I But if you ask my mother, "Is waxwing worldly?" she would say "Oh, dear, I'm afraid she is very worldly" (because I am not considered spiritual by her standards, and she thinks that by pursuing earthly wisdom above God, I am being like Solomon, living a meaningless existence, and so on). It's very ironic.
cjs55
23 Nov 2005, 05:32 PM
When I first read this title I first thought of trivia of the world and physical experiences in the world, both of which I'm very low on. If abstract concepts about the world count as being wordly though...fucking goddamn I'm worldy.
Xander
23 Nov 2005, 06:33 PM
When I first read this title I first thought of trivia of the world and physical experiences in the world, both of which I'm very low on. If abstract concepts about the world count as being wordly though...fucking goddamn I'm worldy.
I'd say that would be me as well in a nut shell.
INTrPosr
25 Nov 2005, 02:29 PM
I have always connoted "worldly" to mean "street smarts".
ApeTheDog
25 Nov 2005, 02:33 PM
I have always thought the world was a really boring place, and so always consciously avoided being worldly in the first place.
Helios
26 Nov 2005, 08:34 AM
I can't help immediately thinking of "worldly" in church terms, as in, worldly versus "godly." I had far too much early childhood training in the biblical notion: "We are in the world, but not of the world."
If you understand the word "worldly" to mean "attached to or cognizant of what is material/tangible," I am not. I But if you ask my mother, "Is waxwing worldly?" she would say "Oh, dear, I'm afraid she is very worldly" (because I am not considered spiritual by her standards, and she thinks that by pursuing earthly wisdom above God, I am being like Solomon, living a meaningless existence, and so on). It's very ironic.
Holy Crap! We are siblings!
MuseedesBeauxArts
26 Nov 2005, 10:46 AM
I can't help immediately thinking of "worldly" in church terms, as in, worldly versus "godly." I had far too much early childhood training in the biblical notion: "We are in the world, but not of the world."
If you understand the word "worldly" to mean "attached to or cognizant of what is material/tangible," I am not. I But if you ask my mother, "Is waxwing worldly?" she would say "Oh, dear, I'm afraid she is very worldly" (because I am not considered spiritual by her standards, and she thinks that by pursuing earthly wisdom above God, I am being like Solomon, living a meaningless existence, and so on). It's very ironic.
You make me laugh. In that way where you shake your head and say, "Oh, too familiar." I see your mom answering that question with the exact same spiritually concerned expression on her face as my mom has when she's sadly said things like, "Yes, she and her boyfriend are living in sin." [that was about a cousin of mine...I still laugh at that way of putting it]
I wonder what it would take to change her perspective. I've often wanted to push things to the edge, see if they could see my perspective without condemnation.
Anyway, this is a complete derailment. Sorry!
About worldliness...I guess I just think of it as having really different priorities. Mine happen to be less material than some. So I guess you could say that's not worldly.
Mr Pink
26 Nov 2005, 11:40 AM
I wonder what it would take to change her perspective. I've often wanted to push things to the edge, see if they could see my perspective without condemnation.
It doesn't work.
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