How much you people suck.

[euterpenc]

When I come here, I read your shit, and I find that there is no more, if not less substance than talking any other personality types or anyone from society at large. It appears that even within subgroups, the majority of peopel are still uneducated, stupid, and just plain suck.

I find most of the people here to be less than worth listening to, and also to be very shallow. Sure makes it not feel special to be an INTP anymore. The more people that there are in something the worse it becomes. It sinks to the lowest common denominator.

[Lee]

Is this what Jung says?

[euterpenc]

Not to my knowledge. It's what I say.

[LuridLemur]

I guess you're going to have to design your own typing system where you can be in a category all of your own.

[panda]

Having a bad day, zeitgeist?

[Serotonin]

Soundtrack to this thread: Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff

[euterpenc]

I guess you're going to have to design your own typing system where you can be in a category all of your own.

Yeah... it's my social security #.

[euterpenc]

Having a bad day, zeitgeist?

No. I thought this the other day. This place is just as steeped in mediocrity as anywhere else.

[panda]

No. I thought this the other day. This place is just as steeped in mediocrity as anywhere else.
*shrug*

I still think it's marginally better than many of the other forums I've encountered. It was much better around the time of its inception, though. (Say, from July 04 to Dec 04.)

[euterpenc]

*shrug*

I still think it's marginally better than many of the other forums I've encountered. It was much better around the time of its inception, though. (Say, from July 04 to Dec 04.)

Maybe because there was fewer people.

Appears I just made that cutoff.

[panda]

Maybe because there was fewer people.

Appears I just made that cutoff.
I don't necessarily mean the members who registered during that time. I just think that the discussions were more interesting, then. (I know I'm generalizing.) That was probably due, in part, to the novelty of the forum. Things change, people grow old and die, the cycle repeats itself, etc.

[euterpenc]

Yeah... I think a cleansing and rebirth shoudl be enacted. Not that it would benefit me any. Because the heads of the forum are some of the problem.

[panda]

Yeah... I think a cleansing and rebirth shoudl be enacted.
*suddenly has a vision of a phoenix rising from the ashes of a ruined civilization*


Because the heads of the forum are some of the problem.
Could you be a little more specific?

[Serotonin]

(Say, from July 04 to Dec 04.)

i.e, before Shai Gar joined.

[Wiki]

Im sorry you feel that way. I assume you know your way out.

[euterpenc]

*suddenly has a vision of a phoenix rising from the ashes of a ruined civilization*


Could be be a little more specific?

Division56, int.

There's only a few people here (or were here), that I deem worth listening to. Hustler, Shai Gar, EZ. Idk anymore off the top of my head. Everyone else is just full of shit, and has nothign of any merit to say at all.

[Nemesis]

I guess you're going to have to design your own typing system where you can be in a category all of your own.



Is this what Jung says?


I know that INTP humor is about taking stuff out of context but for the love of god you people are bad at seeing the point of stuff.

[panda]

i.e, before Shai Gar joined.
:)

Now that you mention it...

[Nemesis]

i.e, before Shai Gar joined.


hey, some of us like Shai Gar... I still sometimes talk to him on AIM.

[panda]

Division56, int.
What did they do?


There's only a few people here (or were here), that I deem worth listening to.
Yeah, but that's the same anywhere and everywhere.


Hustler, Shai Gar, EZ. Idk anymore off the top of my head. Everyone else is just full of shit, and has nothign of any merit to say at all.
I think you're being unjustifiably extreme, but that's my opinion.

[panda]

hey, some of us like Shai Gar... I still sometimes talk to him on AIM.
I actually don't mind him. I'm pretty tolerant, though.

[CoHo]

Urhm...


this much?

http://www.dbccollectibles.com/images/pm4001673.jpg

[Serotonin]

hey, some of us like Shai Gar... I still sometimes talk to him on AIM.

Guess that should be zeitgeist's new very special personality type.

[Nemesis]

Guess that should be zeitgeist's new very special personality type.



....... yeahhhhhh.... whatever hes still better than you.

[panda]

Urhm...


this much?

http://www.dbccollectibles.com/images/pm4001673.jpg
:rofl:

[euterpenc]

What did they do?


Yeah, but that's the same anywhere and everywhere.


I think you're being unjustifiably extreme, but that's my opinion.

Well, INTPC isn't what it should be. Potential was spoiled for lack of proper leadership. As far as I know, there is no real leader here. Therefore, no direction. Which is why it isn't really getting anywhere or progressing in anyway.

Everyone here is remarkebly NOT liek the INTP description. Everyone clings to simple established ideas, and sucks at picking out flaws in arguements (more precisely, IMPORTANT flaws; like politicians saying that their competition drank as a youth, it's just not relevant).

Maybe you could say it's my fault for expecting INTPs to be intelligent, not thei rfault for not being intelligent.

[panda]

Well, INTPC isn't what it should be. Potential was spoiled for lack of proper leadership. As far as I know, there is no real leader here. Therefore, no direction. Which is why it isn't really getting anywhere or progressing in anyway.
"Should" is subjective.


Everyone here is remarkebly NOT liek the INTP description. Everyone clings to simple established ideas, and sucks at picking out flaws in arguements (more precisely, IMPORTANT flaws; like politicians saying that their competition drank as a youth, it's just not relevant).

Maybe you could say it's my fault for expecting INTPs to be intelligent, not thei rfault for not being intelligent.
You're free to your opinion, of course, but I think you're generalizing too much. I've seen plenty of intelligent discussion on here.

[euterpenc]

"Should" is subjective.


You're free to your opinion, of course, but I think you're generalizing too much. I've seen plenty of intelligent discussion on here.

If you're part of the crowd, that's naturally what you think.

[panda]

If you're part of the crowd, that's naturally what you think.
What crowd? I'm not a part of any crowd that I'm aware of. I didn't say all or even most conversation on here is intelligent or interesting... but some certainly is (in my opinion). This is, in large part, subjective.

[CoHo]

Well, INTPC isn't what it should be.

What should it be? And what direction should we be going since we need a leader?

[euterpenc]

What should it be? And what direction should we be going since we need a leader?

Developing and effectively utilizing the talents of the type, and overcoming its weaknesses, rather than proliferating them.

[Nemesis]

ShaiGar1983: heh
ShaiGar1983: i made that cut off too
ShaiGar1983: november 2004

[LuridLemur]

Why do you care? This is a real question, not an implied insult or anything.

[abathur]

I haven't exactly had an epiphany while reading one of your posts (which frequently strike me as "woe is me, I'm in HS" crap, like so much shitty angsty teen poetry) Zeitgeist.

Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? Perhaps you're a Sophomore?

[Serotonin]

ShaiGar1983: heh
ShaiGar1983: i made that cut off too
ShaiGar1983: november 2004
Looks like he still has his proxies.
Talk about vigilance. :zzz:

[CoHo]

Developing and effectively utilizing the talents of the type, and overcoming its weaknesses, rather than proliferating them.

That sounds like an individual choice. Thousands of people join this forum for thousands of reasons...

Wilbur joins the forum because he wants to talk about music to a bunch of fellow INTPs... are you saying that is wrong and shouldn't be discussed because it isn’t focusing on “utilizing the talents of the type”, or “overcoming its weaknesses”?

[Nemesis]

I haven't exactly had an epiphany while reading one of your posts (which frequently strike me as "woe is me, I'm in HS" crap, like so much shitty angsty teen poetry) Zeitgeist.

Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? Perhaps you're a Sophomore?


wow.

way to prove his fucking point you moron.

[Vagabond]

You gotta love those attention seekers... or ignore them.

[panda]

Looks like he still has his proxies.
Talk about vigilance. :zzz:
You know you're just jealous that SG doesn't talk with *YOU*!

[Claverhouse]

At the Great Hall the mods/admins meet in conclave, wearing the magnificent uniforms --- with sky-blue capes, not robes: how little the profane truly comprehend of our glory --- woven by fairies and elves that are only to be donned for the Great Mass Suicide of the Heads: the holy scriptures of the INTP Chapel assure us that as we can never truly die, we shall in our transfiguration be raptured up to a massive craft from beyond the stars as soon as the comet is in alignment with the moon.

Not a word is uttered, as kuranes begins the sacred invocation to those unutterable ones who know all and have prepared us for this moment, signalled by Zeitgeist's disenchantment which is the foreseen sign for our release; Div slowly hands out the glimmering crystals of kool-aid...


Claverhouse http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/ninja.gif

[Serotonin]

You know you're just jealous that SG doesn't talk with *YOU*!

Shamefully. Indignantly. Obsessively.



:zzz: :zzz:

[panda]

At the Great Hall the mods/admins meet in conclave, wearing the magnificent uniforms --- with sky-blue capes, not robes: how little the profane truly comprehend of our glory --- woven by fairies and elves that are only to be donned for the Great Mass Suicide of the Heads: the holy scriptures of the INTP Chapel assure us that as we can never truly die, we shall in our transfiguration be raptured up to a massive craft from beyond the stars as soon as the comet is in alignment with the moon.

Not a word is uttered, as kuranes begins the sacred invocation to those unutterable ones who know all and have prepared us for this moment, signalled by Zeitgeist's disenchantment which is the foreseen sign for our release; Div slowly hands out the glimmering crystals of kool-aid...


Claverhouse http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/ninja.gif

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mgb]

You gotta love those attention seekers... or ignore them.
Look at you with all the avatar changes lately.

[joft]

when I imagine an INTP obsessed with leadership, direction, and overcoming weaknesses, I feel sorry for that INTP in my imagination

[abathur]

wow.

way to prove his fucking point you moron.
Way to eat him out.

He's pissing in the punch and complaining when it tastes bad, as far as I can tell. His post is absolutely ludicrous. Bitching about leadership on an open forum (An INTP one no less) is laughable, as is playing the self righteous bit when you're part of the problem.

I could air one of the same concerns: I login here for intelligent discussion, not to hear some 16 year old piss and moan about how tough HS is and how he's more special than everyone else.

Sure, he identifies a problem, and then he goes off on multiple tangents that don't really address solving the problem in any intelligent way, nor do they make any progress towards an intelligent solution. More hypocricy please?

[Nemesis]

Way to eat him out.

He's pissing in the punch and complaining when it tastes bad, as far as I can tell. His post is absolutely ludicrous. Bitching about leadership on an open forum (An INTP one no less) is laughable, as is playing the self righteous bit when you're part of the problem.

I could air one of the same concerns: I login here for intelligent discussion, not to hear some 16 year old piss and moan about how tough HS is and how he's more special than everyone else.

Sure, he identifies a problem, and then he goes off on multiple tangents that don't really address solving the problem in any intelligent way, nor do they make any progress towards an intelligent solution. More hypocricy please?


What the hell are you talking about? Hows about an example?

[DeadDove]

Shesh...zeitgeist you sound like you want an INTP to be "one thing in general" and you have this idea in your head of what that should be, and it's obvious in how you are posting. I just don't think you really are accounting for everything. A lot of the people here that are INTP's in my view, are extreme introverts. Other's have more dominate T's than others, and tend to take things more seriously than others here. Typically what I've seen here is that many of us have the "same" temperments but view things entirely different. I tend to view myself as one of the more "playful," if you will, members here by not taking so much seriously (and why should I, life's to short in my view).

Many of us here have very different backgrounds, but we can still come here and talk about things and get other people's perspectives unlikes those in the "SJ" world, to see if maybe we our out of line in a given situation. My background is probably vastly different from just about EVERYONE else's with me being Mexican, both my parents coming from a fam. of 10, seeing first hand effects of what happens to relatives who get involved in gangs and drugs and what-not. Being at a club on Dec. 21st 2003 when a gang fight broke out in the club, then later on when one of my cousins friends' g/f's ended up trying to commit suicide and me being the only sober person to drive her to the hospital. That makes me and my view of life A LOT different than someone else's who is posting from back East (where there isn't as big a mexican culture as there is here in Cali).

As far as some of the older members have said, this forum was a lot better when it started. And I wasn't here, but I fgure it was. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing "old topics" start anew with the current members instead of being told "We've had this topic before." To me, its like, well that threads dead, and me bringing it back would be like bringing back a conversation that already took place. My view is the past is the past, why not have possible "same past topics" but started afresh and see what's what now. It's not like we'd be bringing up topics that were just talked about 3 days ago or something. And I think the forum would benifit a lot if that was done, IMO.

Those are some of my thoughts, and I'm tried of typing now and hope you can review what you are saying and think of ways to improve this forum "for everyone" instead of it simply wanting it to benifit you and a few others (because that's how you are coming off). And if not, like Wiki said, I'm sure you know where the door is. I'm out.

[abathur]

What the hell are you talking about? Hows about an example?
Sure. http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4721

[Nemesis]

Sure. http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4721


I like getting to know people before judging them ;)

[abathur]

Like when you called me a moron?

[Nemesis]

Like when you called me a moron?


I didn't say that i thought you were a moron. I said you were a moron and left the 'I know' part as being understood. But then, you are a moron.

[abathur]

Judgement was passed, in your statement, on someone you don't know--despite the "fact" that you don't judge people until you "know" them. Clearly, you do (though you're free to try to squirm out of the hole you've dug yourself in again if you like,) which seems to leave the option that you're lying about your methods of judging people.

[Nemesis]

Judgement was passed, in your statement, on someone you don't know--despite the "fact" that you don't judge people until you "know" them. Clearly, you do (though you're free to try to squirm out of the hole you've dug yourself in again if you like,) which seems to leave the option that you're lying about your methods of judging people.


fine. you're not a moron. stop passing judgement on my friend.

[meshou]

Perhaps, if I can offer a very rude opinion: Perhaps everywhere is mediocre because you're always there?

[Nemesis]

Perhaps, if I can offer a very rude opinion: Perhaps everywhere is mediocre because you're always there?


Jesus Christ. YOU ARE NOT HELPING!!!

[mgb]

zeitgeist,

I guess I'd have to say that you are right and wrong. And really, those are just opinions.

In some ways this place can be a real disappointment when you show up. Some of the threads can be utterly ridiculous and not the good kind of ridiculous. Sometimes I read some of the threads and I people are so dumb I want to smash my monitor. Other times they are so dumb I lose all faith in humanity (see jimore's current doozie).

Other times I come here and it's everything it should be. Really just depends who is around and who has developed a real life.

Now, I've done my fair share of whining here. Most of the time I like to think I have a pretty good reason. I suppose that's subjective too. But you are really just showing up and whining when you know full well, having been here long enough, that things could change next week.

So really, I suspect that you are just feeling a little depressed about life or something that happened on the forum.

This place is going to be what you make it, if it's boring, do something about it.

As for Shai Gar, he's a prick and I hope he doesn't come back.

[abathur]

fine. you're not a moron. stop passing judgement on my friend.
I'm not the one who goes around saying I don't judge people before I know them.

I do it all the time. I don't have the time to get to know everyone to figure out whether the time was well spent. Fair? No. Practical? Yes.

And, if I may ask: How precisely are YOU helping?

[Nemesis]

I'm not the one who goes around saying I don't judge people before I know them.

I do it all the time. I don't have the time to get to know everyone to figure out whether the time was well spent. Fair? No. Practical? Yes.

And, if I may ask: How precisely are YOU helping?


I didn't say I don't judge them either. I simply told you not to.

[meshou]

I like getting to know people before judging them ;)1) We know him by the posts he makes here. How well we know him is entirely his discression.

2) If people don't like him for who he is on these forums, it is as much a function of how he acts on them as who we are.

3) I've drifted away from NF-rey for this very reason. OMG U DUNT KNOW MY FRIEND SO DON'T JUDGE OKEY??? God. He's acting like a disaffected child, and always has here, and it's annoying, and people will be annoyed by it, even if we aren't his BESTEST FRIENDS. We don't need to know him to pass judgement, we just have to know that It's His Time of the Month because he does this regularly-- People suck, no one understands him, everyone is stupid, blah blah blah.

Ever met someone who is the sweetest person to their friends, and an asshole to everyone else? It's possible for him to be the nicest guy in the world to you, and a whiny crybaby who always does this to us.

Perhaps you shouldn't pass judgement until you've been in a position to roll your eyes and groan at yet another teenage NF whine from him. But you guys probably exchange them.

[Nemesis]

zeitgeist,

I guess I'd have to say that you are right and wrong. And really, those are just opinions.

In some ways this place can be a real disappointment when you show up. Some of the threads can be utterly ridiculous and not the good kind of ridiculous. Sometimes I read some of the threads and I people are so dumb I want to smash my monitor. Other times they are so dumb I lose all faith in humanity (see jimore's current doozie).

Other times I come here and it's everything it should be. Really just depends who is around and who has developed a real life.

Now, I've done my fair share of whining here. Most of the time I like to think I have a pretty good reason. I suppose that's subjective too. But you are really just showing up and whining when you know full well, having been here long enough, that things could change next week.

So really, I suspect that you are just feeling a little depressed about life or something that happened on the forum.

This place is going to be what you make it, if it's boring, do something about it.

As for Shai Gar, he's a prick and I hope he doesn't come back.


Nah... from what hes been saying lately (and I agree with most of it) its that he thinks youre like society on a smaller scale and that you're a bunch of idiots too in love with the sound of their own collective voice to actually get anywhere or to discover anything profound.

PS- Long live Shai Gar

[Nemesis]

1) We know him by the posts he makes here. How well we know him is entirely his discression.

2) If people don't like him for who he is on these forums, it is as much a function of how he acts on them as who we are.

3) I've drifted away from NF-rey for this very reason. OMG U DUNT KNOW MY FRIEND SO DON'T JUDGE OKEY??? God. He's acting like a disaffected child, and always has here, and it's annoying, and people will be annoyed by it, even if we aren't his BESTEST FRIENDS. We don't need to know him to pass judgement, we just have to know that It's His Time of the Month because he does this regularly-- People suck, no one understands him, everyone is stupid, blah blah blah.

Ever met someone who is the sweetest person to their friends, and an asshole to everyone else? It's possible for him to be the nicest guy in the world to you, and a whiny crybaby who always does this to us.

Perhaps you shouldn't pass judgement until you've been in a position to roll your eyes and groan at yet another teenage NF whine from him. But you guys probably exchange them.



well don't you just have us wrapped up in a nice little package you can fit in your wallet. normally i try not to agree with zeit on issues such as "most people suck" but its idiots like you that force me to. congratulations

[panda]

Nah... from what hes been saying lately (and I agree with most of it) its that he thinks youre like society on a smaller scale and that you're a bunch of idiots too in love with the sound of their own collective voice to actually get anywhere or to discover anything profound.
Man, that's just weird.

[Claverhouse]

As for Shai Gar, he's a prick and I hope he doesn't come back.
Far, far away on Tannum Sand,
A maiden cries forlorn:
For he she loved
The great self-banned,
Both slandered is and torn...


From: Song of The Muffin. Part VIII, Canto 6005: The Vengeance of Jemma


Claverhouse http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/ninja.gif

[Trystorp]

Nah... from what hes been saying lately (and I agree with most of it) its that he thinks youre like society on a smaller scale and that you're a bunch of idiots too in love with the sound of their own collective voice to actually get anywhere or to discover anything profound.


I would hope I felt this way about an online forum I would simply stop reading it and find something I felt was more worthwhile to do. But then, I guess I don't have the same need for validation.

[Nemesis]

I would hope I felt this way about an online forum I would simply stop reading it and find something I felt was more worthwhile to do. But then, I guess I don't have the same need for validation.


Imagine, if you will, a train wreck, a terrible, bloody, firy, ungodly trainwreck. It's so horrible and yet, strangely, you can't tear your eyes away.

[LuridLemur]

Still no reason to piss on it.

[panda]

Far, far away on Tannum Sand,
A maiden cries forlorn:
For he she loved
The great self-banned,
Both slandered is and torn...


From: Song of The Muffin. Part VIII, Canto 6005: The Vengeance of Jemma


Claverhouse http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/ninja.gif
:rofl:

You're on a roll, Claverhouse.

[Nemesis]

Still no reason to piss on it.


how the hell else am I supposed to keep the fire under control until the firemen get to the scene!

[panda]

how the hell else am I supposed to keep the fire under control until the firemen get to the scene!
You're doing a great job, by the way.

[Nemesis]

You're doing a great job, by the way.


well i'm one man and its a big freakin train wreck!

[DeadDove]

How about everyone just shuts up on this thread, until zeitgeist respondes...unless it's someone posting to the topic. Soooo annoyned right now.

[abathur]

If by great job you mean, "pissing gasoline on someone elses fire." ;)

[lexiphanic]

This thread wasn't as entertaining as it could have been.


It needed rocket launchers.

[Nemesis]

How about everyone just shuts up on this thread, until zeitgeist respondes...unless it's someone posting to the topic. Soooo annoyned right now.


He went to bed. weve both got school tomorrow. aw damn Im complaining about being in high school now arent I... aw shucks now meshou and abathur can rightfully pass judgement on me. rats!

[Sackanaka]

Dear Zeitgeist: I am sorry for making the forum sucky. I hope you accept my public apology.

[meshou]

well don't you just have us wrapped up in a nice little package you can fit in your wallet. normally i try not to agree with zeit on issues such as "most people suck" but its idiots like you that force me to. congratulationsSo he does this offline too?

It's all we SEE. What are we supposed to like? Do you give the benefit of the doubt to people who throw public tantrums at YOU.

Are we really supposed to (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=2563) like (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4445) a (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4898) person (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4517) who (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4409) does (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4677) this (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4737) every. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4721) single. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4833) post? (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4812)

He throws regular temper tantrums. You complain we can't judge him by what he does because we don't know everything he does. That's like engaging in recrational shoplifitng and complaining that the shop owner can't judge because he doesn't really know you. Yes he can. Yep, we can.

[meshou]

He went to bed. weve both got school tomorrow. aw damn Im complaining about being in high school now arent I... aw shucks now meshou and abathur can rightfully pass judgement on me. rats!Yes, people who go to highschool do, indeed, suck. Being teenaged is almost as bad as defending Zeitgiest's tantrums.

[meshou]

Zeitgiest needs a name.

So, will it be Butch or Poopsie? Or it can be Butch AND Poopsie.

[abathur]

I thought it would take me far longer to hate HS kids. And I'm wearing warm, fuzzy socks. And I think meshou's smackdown might have turned me on just a little.

[Nemesis]

So he does this offline too?

It's all we SEE. What are we supposed to like? Do you give the benefit of the doubt to people who throw public tantrums at YOU.

Are we really supposed to (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=2563) like (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4445) a (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4898) person (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4517) who (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4409) does (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4677) this (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4737) every. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4721) single. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4833) post? (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=4812)

He throws regular temper tantrums. You complain we can't judge him by what he does because we don't know everything he does. That's like engaging in recrational shoplifitng and complaining that the shop owner can't judge because he doesn't really know you. Yes he can. Yep, we can.


fine if he ever breaks into your house and steals your stuff then go ahead and call him a burglar. and no. he doesnt do it every single post. and whenever he gets angry hes right! at least from what I see. but then. i see him every day. hang out with him quite a bit. talk to him in person. get to know him and learn all angles of problems he faces. its a shame that you think you know him because of what he posts on an online forum. and its a shame that abathur doesnt have the time to get to know people. ya know, i hope some day i can lack compassion in such a utilitarian way as to save myself time to spend on more worthwhile things

[abathur]

Zeitgiest needs a name.

So, will it be Butch or Poopsie? Or it can be Butch AND Poopsie.

Putch? Putchsie?

[cjs55]

how the hell else am I supposed to keep the fire under control until the firemen get to the scene!

You might have to wait a while longer

http://tonkawhoops.ytmnd.com/

[Serotonin]

Looks like Shai Gar successfully created his much-wanted harem........ of American schoolboys.

[panda]

Looks like Shai Gar successfully created his much-wanted harem........ of American schoolboys.
:rofl:

[abathur]

Of course you can. Ts are broken Fs, afterall. :rolleyes:

[cjs55]

There's only a few people here (or were here), that I deem worth listening to....Shai Gar...

I can understand hustler and EZ quite well...and no offense to God himself but...WTF

[Nemesis]

You might have to wait a while longer

http://tonkawhoops.ytmnd.com/


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[meshou]

fine if he ever breaks into your house and steals your stuff then go ahead and call him a burglar. and no. he doesnt do it every single post. and whenever he gets angry hes right! at least from what I see. but then. i see him every day. hang out with him quite a bit. talk to him in person. get to know him and learn all angles of problems he faces. its a shame that you think you know him because of what he posts on an online forum. and its a shame that abathur doesnt have the time to get to know people. ya know, i hope some day i can lack compassion in such a utilitarian way as to save myself time to spend on more worthwhile thingsOh, God. Can we at least agree on these things:

1) We can't judge on motivation. We can only judge by what people do.

2) No one can be there all the time, no one knows anyone else absolutely.

3) If someone does something unpleasant, people tend to dislike it, and saying they are wrong to do so is a little silly-- I can't punch you in the face, then point to my flower arranging hobbie to prove I am not the sort of person who would normally punch you in the face. I punched you, dammit, and you have every right to judge me for it.

4) I would be MORE than happy to know him as a pleasant fellow. But here, the only place I can know him, he posts stuff like this way more often than any other member.

It would be absolutely wonderful if he'd let us know him as you do. But he does not come here to be a good person at us, he comes here, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, to sneer at us like he sneers at the rest of humanity.

Do you think it doesn't come across? Do you think we ought to like someone who believes we're trainwrecks on the face of the planet?

I believe he is depressed, and I believe he's both extremely young and an NF who has not really come to terms with himself or the way the world works. That grates on NTs, and NTs who've come to terms with both will grate on him. That's life. Perhaps come back when he doesn't despise everyone in the world?

[Nemesis]

Oh, God. Can we at least agree on these things:

1) We can't judge on motivation. We can only judge by what people do.

2) No one can be there all the time, no one knows anyone else absolutely.

3) If someone does something unpleasant, people tend to dislike it, and saying they are wrong to do so is a little silly-- I can't punch you in the face, then point to my flower arranging hobbie to prove I am not the sort of person who would normally punch you in the face. I punched you, dammit, and you have every right to judge me for it.

4) I would be MORE than happy to know him as a pleasant fellow. But here, the only place I can know him, he posts stuff like this way more often than any other member.

It would be absolutely wonderful if he'd let us know him as you do. But he does not come here to be a good person at us, he comes here, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, to sneer at us like he sneers at the rest of humanity.

Do you think it doesn't come across? Do you think we ought to like someone who believes we're trainwrecks on the face of the planet?

I believe he is depressed, and I believe he's both extremely young and an NF who has not really come to terms with himself or the way the world works. That grates on NTs, and NTs who've come to terms with both will grate on him. That's life. Perhaps come back when he doesn't despise everyone in the world?



1) so you admit hes probably a good person in person and yet its still okay for you to judge by threads he starts. wanna know why he started them here? BECAUSE HE USED TO VALUE THE OPINIONS OF THESE FORUMS AND THE PEOPLE LIKE HIM WHO FILLED IT. and how do you react? tell him hes immature and that all high schoolers suck. you should be ashamed of yourself.


2) "feel dont think"- socionics.com on how types apply to everyday life

[Nemesis]

not to bitch about being an immature high schooler and cause displeasure to meshou or anything, but as much as id love to carry on with you lovely people i have school tomorrow.

[panda]

1) so you admit hes probably a good person in person and yet its still okay for you to judge by threads he starts. wanna know why he started them here? BECAUSE HE USED TO VALUE THE OPINIONS OF THESE FORUMS AND THE PEOPLE LIKE HIM WHO FILLED IT. and how do you react? tell him hes immature and that all high schoolers suck. you should be ashamed of yourself.


2) "feel dont think"- socionics.com on how types apply to everyday life
OMU, nemesis... go to sleep or something.

[meshou]

He's immature because of how he acts, and people in high school are similarly unpleasant. I don't like many ten year olds either. You aren't that much older. Forgive me for not liking children. I don't like puppies or rainbows either.

[panda]

not to bitch about being an immature high schooler and cause displeasure to meshou or anything, but as much as id love to carry on with you lovely people i have school tomorrow.
Thank Universe. If I was zeitgeist, I'd be embarrassed about your posts.

[panda]

He's immature because of how he acts, and people in high school are similarly unpleasant. I don't like many ten year olds either. You aren't that much older. Forgive me for not liking children. I don't like puppies or rainbows either.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. You don't like rainbows?

[abathur]

I bet if she met a rainbow she'd really get to like them?

[meshou]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. You don't like rainbows?OK, maybe rainbows. But not the garish ones. Or the ones that cry to me about how this girl won't go out with him, and don't get the "personal space" thing is NOT a joke, and how I really don't care about gossip about people I don't know about, and YES, I've heard that philosophy, as I had to read that book as a Junior as well.

Oh wait. Confusing the two. And that's just the PUPPIES at work.

I have an 18 year old NF I have to babysit at work, and the world is not fair, so I have to do most of his work for him till he learns. Someone shoot me.

[Division56]

Dear Zeitgeist: I am sorry for making the forum sucky. I hope you accept my public apology.
I am also deeply sorry, my heart truly bleeds (and I must have really fucked it up to get personally named by the accuser).

In all truth, it's not my fault that INTPs are generally education without ambition. I still say it's better than most other places, with them being ambition without education.

[panda]

OK, maybe rainbows. But not the garish ones.
Ok, I forgive you then.


I have an 18 year old NF I have to babysit at work, and the world is not fair, so I have to do most of his work for him till he learns.
I'm suffering vicariously, just reading about it.

Seriously though, I essentially agree with everything you've said in this thread, so far.

[s0978]

zeitgeist you should be nice to us. If I remember correctly, you don't have any real friends. Don't you want to hold on to your pretend ones?

[panda]

zeitgeist you should be nice to us. If I remember correctly, you don't have any real friends. Don't you want to hold on to your pretend ones?
Ouch. Your post actually induced a catalytic Fe reaction, in me.

[s0978]

Ouch. Your post actually induced a catalytic Fe reaction, in me.how so?

[panda]

how so?
Actually, after rereading your post, I no longer think it's harsh. What can I say, I'm capricious. :)

I'm really not sure what zeitgeist is aiming for with these sorts of posts, though.

[s0978]

Actually, after rereading your post, I no longer think it's harsh. What can I say, I'm capricious. :)

I'm really not sure what zeitgeist is aiming for with these sorts of posts, though.oh yep, I mean nope, it wasn't supposed to be so harsh, more silly, sort of playfulness between us nihilists. 'cept I'm not anymore (but I remember).

oops, it's the drinkies.

[mgb]

Actually, after rereading your post, I no longer think it's harsh. What can I say, I'm capricious. :)

I'm really not sure what zeitgeist is aiming for with these sorts of posts, though.

The usual I imagine, attention.

Without actually checking, I'm guessing not enough people posted about him finally posting his picture, or his family pissed him off this weekend.

[cjs55]

I'm guessing not enough people posted about him finally posting his picture Fuck, if that's the case I should make a similar thread. Because no one made a birthday thread for me a few months ago. And it was my 21st. *tears up*

You useless bastards.

The attention thing seems to have sort of worked though. Look at the fire now.


Wow, when did you break 5k posts mgbradsh? That's....a lot. (I'm observant!)

[Sackanaka]

Happy Birthday cjs55!

[meshou]

Happy Birthday!

[Division56]

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=7659

[cjs55]

Awww.

Tits and recognition, I couldn't ask for anything more.

I love you guys.

[Sackanaka]

Another satisfied customer. :)

[ne plus ultra]

I read a link by ApetheDog. I think I'd classify zeitgist as a classic troller if he is a troller at all.

Well, INTPC isn't what it should be. Potential was spoiled for lack of proper leadership. As far as I know, there is no real leader here. Therefore, no direction. Which is why it isn't really getting anywhere or progressing in anyway.
I agree to some extent, even if I'm fully aware that this could possibly be just a joke.
You are free to initiate an intellectual discussion whenever you want. Introduce an intersting topic that stimulates the intellectuals and you'll get a few 'serious' responses. Except you can't believe everyone shares the same interest and it's important to note that many come here to relax and have 'fun'. Additionally, mistyping self is bound to happen to one member or another, not to imply that INTP's are the only type that takes an interest in intelligent discussions.
I am not sure if anyone has already asked this but What do you want to talk about?

[DeadDove]

Fuck, if that's the case I should make a similar thread. Because no one made a birthday thread for me a few months ago. And it was my 21st. *tears up*

You useless bastards.

No one did for me either and my b-day (turned 25) was on thanksgiving! So I feel your pain. Atleast Madrigal sent me a PM wishing me a happy b-day though, but no love AT ALL from anyone else. Now I definately think I should make a blog...well, maybe after work tomorrow.

*Edit* Just saw those other posts wishing you a happy b-day...you ever near central Cali cjs55 I'll buy you a beer for your 21st, and take you to a strip club as well.

[Dunearhp]

I can see a dozen types of mediocrity here. I would be surprised if it were otherwise. Every personality is broken from someone's perspective.


Developing and effectively utilizing the talents of the type, and overcoming its weaknesses, rather than proliferating them.
If you want to see people rising and overcoming things then an online forum is the wrong place to look.

People expect too much from MBTI. Did you think you had joined a community full of clones of yourself. Congratulations, we are all just as mediocre as you are.

If you don't consider yourself mediocre then perhaps you should wonder why we can't see that.

If you want to change the world then first you must be able to change the way you view the world. Keep changing your viewpoint until you can see the right levers.
Screaming into the aether will achieve nothing. It never did anything for Odysseus.

I don't expect this place to be classically educational. That's what libraries are for.
I do find it fascinating however, probably for the same reasons you are complaining.

[eyebyte_atWork]

I just saw this thread after being caught up in the holiday weekend (which was a friggen disaster)

I initially had the same opinion as zeitgeist when I first stumbled across this forum. I was in search of a group of people who could take advantage and channel the uniqueness I knew I possessed (I had hoped to find others who did as well). I tried the Mensans, This group, programmers groups, I courted the Masons, etc - all fell short. I felt that there was no one who had any direction - no one who knew what was going on. It seemed like a bunch of groupies with no central group.

Then I met up with a few members from this forum.

The people here do not always display it - but they are sharp - sharper than the general public. I was pleasantly surprised to see this in person as I did not expect to be wow'd.

zeitgeist: - You may never find a group of people who have their shit together - at least not a non-government funded/sanctioned group - but please do not be so quick to discount the people here as they are alot sharper than their modesty allows them to display. I could list certain people on this forum who has skills that are pretty impressive and never flaunt it here (I am sure they would like to discuss these subjects with you if you are interested) . FOr many here this is the only social thing they do (for me it is the only grown up social thing) and as such this forum provides a purpose and satisfies a need.

My two cents... there you have it.

[Helios]

*looks around*



Is this the birthday grievance thread?

[Vagabond]

Look at you with all the avatar changes lately. Ah, you noticed... I feel complete now.

[Zero Angel]

Zeitgeist, I find it a ironic how you can criticize the quality of the people here when you don't do a good job of setting an example in the first place.

INTPC is a place to talk about poetry, MBTI, interesting sites, music, entertainment, concepts, or whatever you want. While this setup is ideal with a smaller group, INTPC is far too large for a person to be able to read every single topic and find it worthwhile. I think what you mean by mediocrity is that you cannot remain interested because there is too much activity.

Without any real goal, there is nothing really for a 'leader' to direct and any attempts to do so would cause a group of posters to rally against this leader for being a dictator. This is a social board after all, not a development forum.

[Hustler]

Without any real goal, there is nothing really for a 'leader' to direct and any attempts to do so would cause a group of posters to rally against this leader for being a dictator. This is a social board after all, not a development forum.

Do you really believe that?

[distraction tactics]

Angst, frustration, anger... all fine emotions worthy in their own right. But if there's no self-analysis behind the display or possible roadmap to resolving the issue(s), questions are going to be raised about your motivations and personal character.

Finding a receptive audience is much easier when you're not insulting them - help create the environment you want to see.

It's possible the admins/mods run this forum according to a strict, dogmatic rulebook; it's equally possible they're open to new and interesting ideas on how to better the forum.

[Lee]

*waits for Zeitgeist to start an interesting thread to contribute to*

[Xander]

WOW.
I missed this one, haven't been on for four days.
Seems like a lot of underdeveloped F whent into this thread and got alot back.
I can't certainly see where the frustration comes from but surely if you are to grow and overcome your insecurities and weaknesses then you must first trust that everything has its purpose. You can't simultaneously sort out yourself and everyone else, bar certain rare circumstances.
I find that the best way is to start threads if no one else starts one about the thing you wish to discuss, cherry pick from the rest and then just keep to those. I'd go mad trawling through all which is posted on here and that includes the posts that some find the most insightful.
All your frustration prooves is that each person is an individual. You have to put the work in before you will get a group of like minded people.
To give you an example I play Dnd (sad but true). For this you need a group of about five people and one amougnst them must be set apart as the DM (oh apologies if I am trying to tech the professor but some may not have a clue what I'm on about). I first played when I was ten. It took me five years after the first dm left to find another group and a further ten years after that one died when I left college. Three years roughly I've been with this group and it is still a full time job keeping it together.
Perhaps you need to localise your posting on here to threads you find interesting and posters you connect with.
Oh and as I have been damned as one of the flock perhaps you would point out my flaws so that I too can grow and develop?

[MacGuffin]

This thread made baby Jesus cry.

Baby Jesus is so emo.

[Tlalocone]

When I come here, I read your shit, and I find that there is no more, if not less substance than talking any other personality types or anyone from society at large. It appears that even within subgroups, the majority of peopel are still uneducated, stupid, and just plain suck.

I find most of the people here to be less than worth listening to, and also to be very shallow. Sure makes it not feel special to be an INTP anymore. The more people that there are in something the worse it becomes. It sinks to the lowest common denominator.
Oh boy ! You must had a bad day today!
Why art thou so hectic?
You sure can be special human, either if you are an Intp or just being a plain other type of the MBTI chart. And i can not agree on the question that this
really HAS values and not just 'shit'
Anyway, no harm on ya Pal.
P.S.:Have a nice day!(Though not the Bon Jovi meaning I have meant.)
Cheer up,pal !

[Tlalocone]

Soundtrack to this thread: Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff
Yeah, agreed. And maybe LB:Rollin' mp3.

[TPol]

As far as some of the older members have said, this forum was a lot better when it started. And I wasn't here, but I fgure it was. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing "old topics" start anew with the current members instead of being told "We've had this topic before." To me, its like, well that threads dead, and me bringing it back would be like bringing back a conversation that already took place. My view is the past is the past, why not have possible "same past topics" but started afresh and see what's what now. It's not like we'd be bringing up topics that were just talked about 3 days ago or something. And I think the forum would benifit a lot if that was done, IMO.

It might be a while before Z is back (don't know), but this is addressed to him as well as to some things others have said. I wasn't here in the very beginning either. When I first came here, I lurked a long while before posting. I wanted to study the norms & traditions of the place and decipher why they might exist. No sense in walking in the middle of the town square, guns shooting in the air, while I hollered, "Things are going to be different around here now." If those traditions were logical and I could see the sense behind them, I tried to honor them when I made myself known by starting to post.

DeadDove brings out one of these social norms. I looked through the old conversations in which I was interested. If I could add nothing new and/or helpful to the thread, I left it buried. As DeadDove addressed, if I could add something new or have a new angle on an old topic or I could insure no duplication, then a new thread was warranted and seems to be pretty well tolerated by the group, I think. All this is simply respect for the board that existed before your presence. [DeadDove, I think you interact well with people, so note I'm addressing the issue with a broad sweep rather than pointing fingers.] Forums work differently than real life in that old conversations are recorded here, but the general principle of refraining from annoying the group for little benefit to all still applies.

What I'm getting at in my round-about way is that newbies need to be respectful of the group already in existence. The group already in existence needs to give some tolerance to the newbies who don't sit back and observe before plunging in. From what I've seen, the group (as a whole) has done its part on a repeated basis.

As to mediocrity and this group being the same as a standard crosscut of society "out there," I do not agree. However, I can see that point-of-view if one were to do a superficial read of the place without in-depth thought into motives and personalities at work here. One could briefly look at the exchanges on INTPc and think they see cliques or "special groups who shun outsiders," but I suggest that this is a view through glasses that have been worn too long in a social group that really IS that way. Take off such a filtration and you will see that the group dynamics here are a bit different. Sure, there are some who get along better with each other than they do with particular others. It is the way things are in most groups, be they small or large.

But, I see a person having a bad day (or a bad year, in some cases) and people from all over the forums rallying around them with support. Admittedly, the sad or frustrated person usually isn't attacking the group at the time. I see the banter back and forth, and I see it as healthy because it means we are crawling out of our seriousness-shell once in a while and giving each other some much needed cheer. I see people engaging in intellectual conversations of their particular interest and giving thought-out responses to each other. Rather than feeling left out or like everyone here is shallow, you might step back and consider the motives and styles at work on the site. I think this group is amazingly tolerant of individuality, but that is eventually exhausted when the group is attacked with generalities and a lack of well-formed arguments.

[ApeTheDog]

You know what would make this forum suck less, and immediately turn it into a more intellectual place, zeitgeist? If you left. Because you haven't started one intelligent thread, you haven't said one intelligent thing, and you haven't done anything worthwhile.

Good threads and interesting discussions don't just fall out of the sky, you know. They are started. Start some. Or if you can't do that, at least don't have the arrogance to actually EXPECT other people to do this work for you.

[joft]

leadership is for the weak minded

[mgb]

Ah, you noticed... I feel complete now.

I try. It also looks like you moved. Maybe you have some stories for us too?

[Vagabond]

I try. It also looks like you moved. Maybe you have some stories for us too? Um. I take that back. I moved almost three months ago. :P

[mgb]

Um. I take that back. I moved almost three months ago. :P
But why?

[Division56]

I know! I know!

She is a woman of mystery, she is.

[mgb]

I know! I know!

She is a woman of mystery, she is.

Yeah yeah, whose mystery is only exceeded by her power.

It doesn't mean that there isn't a semi decent story behind Vagabond's move, and the Continuum Transfunctioner for that matter.

[Zero Angel]

Do you really believe that?
Somewhat. Hey, if people can harass heero and the admin/mods for doing their jobs, then i'm sure it can happen when they try to influence the content of the board. I, for one, would be indifferent.

[euterpenc]

I haven't exactly had an epiphany while reading one of your posts (which frequently strike me as "woe is me, I'm in HS" crap, like so much shitty angsty teen poetry) Zeitgeist.

Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? Perhaps you're a Sophomore?

Senior. I'm advanced, bitch.

[YardGnome]

Your daily dosage of Teenage Angst

[mgb]

Senior. I'm advanced, bitch.

Compared to whom?

[euterpenc]

zeitgeist you should be nice to us. If I remember correctly, you don't have any real friends. Don't you want to hold on to your pretend ones?

o_0

Seems like you have a pretend image of me.

[mgb]

o_0

Seems like you have a pretend image of me.

If that's true, it's the pretend image you gave us.

[euterpenc]

I can see a dozen types of mediocrity here. I would be surprised if it were otherwise. Every personality is broken from someone's perspective.


If you want to see people rising and overcoming things then an online forum is the wrong place to look.

People expect too much from MBTI. Did you think you had joined a community full of clones of yourself. Congratulations, we are all just as mediocre as you are.

If you don't consider yourself mediocre then perhaps you should wonder why we can't see that.

If you want to change the world then first you must be able to change the way you view the world. Keep changing your viewpoint until you can see the right levers.
Screaming into the aether will achieve nothing. It never did anything for Odysseus.

I don't expect this place to be classically educational. That's what libraries are for.
I do find it fascinating however, probably for the same reasons you are complaining.

Don't bring me into your vortex of suckage.

Changing how one views the world is the same as ceasing to be oneself, and submitting to authorities that really don't have any authority. No one understands me here because no one here has at least a spark of genius. Submitting to the common worldview prevents growth, and suffocates life. "Opinions" are just a cop out.

You can't see it because you listen to yourself and everyone who agrees with you too much.

Apparently you guys took it personally, and associated yourselves with the rabble that I speak negatively of. That is what makes you part of it.

[euterpenc]

I just saw this thread after being caught up in the holiday weekend (which was a friggen disaster)

I initially had the same opinion as zeitgeist when I first stumbled across this forum. I was in search of a group of people who could take advantage and channel the uniqueness I knew I possessed (I had hoped to find others who did as well). I tried the Mensans, This group, programmers groups, I courted the Masons, etc - all fell short. I felt that there was no one who had any direction - no one who knew what was going on. It seemed like a bunch of groupies with no central group.

Then I met up with a few members from this forum.

The people here do not always display it - but they are sharp - sharper than the general public. I was pleasantly surprised to see this in person as I did not expect to be wow'd.

zeitgeist: - You may never find a group of people who have their shit together - at least not a non-government funded/sanctioned group - but please do not be so quick to discount the people here as they are alot sharper than their modesty allows them to display. I could list certain people on this forum who has skills that are pretty impressive and never flaunt it here (I am sure they would like to discuss these subjects with you if you are interested) . FOr many here this is the only social thing they do (for me it is the only grown up social thing) and as such this forum provides a purpose and satisfies a need.

My two cents... there you have it.

Fair enough. Who is it that you speak of?

[kuranes]

Little Z -

One day you're telling Hustler "STFU bitch!" and the next you're praising him. I don't think you know whether you're coming or going half the time. But at least you're willing to admit that you sometimes come here just to blow off steam.

The thing I like about you is that you'd like to use a gathering of INTP's to organize something practical that would help us all. Hustler wants to do this too, I think. There are probably quite a few others who might like to as well. We typically only go so far as to give each other tips about specific problems and some career advice, in the open forums. As far as entrepreneurs getting together and collaborating, that may occur in PM's. I know I'M talking to some people about some schemes. We could try to do more of that ( it's not like the thought hasn't occurred to anyone ) but its unclear what that project would be. Feel free to contribute solid ideas vs. nagging about a lack of it. Start thinking about what you'd be bringing to the table on such a venture besides your hypothetical willingness to help.

The other thing is establishing direction and timing with such a group. Who would "guide" it? We've all heard the phrase "like herding cats". INTP's hate being told what to do. So I think it would have to be small groups working together, of people who respected each other. Not all of us together unless it was some rare project we could all agree needed to be done immediately. See thread on "Blasphemy" on what INTP's would unaminously agree on.

[panda]

No one understands me here because no one here has at least a spark of genius.
Could you be any more narcissistic?

[Nemesis]

nemesis394: so what your saying is
nemesis394: since you didnt name anyone specific
nemesis394: you unintentionally exposed all the people on this forum who suck
nemesis394: and it happened
nemesis394: because they responded to a thread
nemesis394: which said "you people suck"
nemesis394: and since they responded without being personally named
nemesis394: they themselves
nemesis394: ...told the whole forum
nemesis394: ...that they suck



It looks alot as though thats exactly what you guys did

[euterpenc]

Little Z -

One day you're telling Hustler "STFU bitch!" and the next you're praising him. I don't think you know whether you're coming or going half the time. But at least you're willing to admit that you sometimes come here just to blow off steam.

The thing I like about you is that you'd like to use a gathering of INTP's to organize something practical that would help us all. Hustler wants to do this too, I think. There are probably quite a few others who might like to as well. We typically only go so far as to give each other tips about specific problems and some career advice, in the open forums. As far as entrepreneurs getting together and collaborating, that may occur in PM's. I know I'M talking to some people about some schemes. We could try to do more of that ( it's not like the thought hasn't occurred to anyone ) but its unclear what that project would be. Feel free to contribute solid ideas vs. nagging about a lack of it. Start thinking about what you'd be bringing to the table on such a venture besides your hypothetical willingness to help.

The other thing is establishing direction and timing with such a group. Who would "guide" it? We've all heard the phrase "like herding cats". INTP's hate being told what to do. So I think it would have to be small groups working together, of people who respected each other. Not all of us together unless it was some rare project we could all agree needed to be done immediately. See thread on "Blasphemy" on what INTP's would unaminously agree on.

I say "STFU" to Hustler because I think he's wrong. However, he is someone with intellect and one of if not the most logical person I've seen here. Think of it like this: just cause your teacher is a dickhead doesn't mean they're not a good teacher. It's similar to that.

We should have an event, where we all (or as many of us) as possible live in close quarters, for a month or so. That would bring unity, or disunity, and cause everyone to have a better understanding of each other, and therefore a better idea of what is behind everyone elses posts.

I don't mind following orders, as long as their from someone I respect. Frankly, few people meet those standards.

To th erest of you: I post this because I see everyone here doing all the mediocre things I skeeve and try to avoid. I find it difficult to accept that INTPs in general are not geniuses and not even of superior intellect. What you people say about only seeing my posts and this is all we see, and some say this is better than whats "out there in the SJ world." SJs are not always shallow people, and I find them more interesting than lost hopes of life that I find here.

And to enigmacrypt, yes I could be more narcissicistic; if I was Narcissus.

Note. Genius is unwelcome at the time of its conception. It is not welcomed until later, often after the genius's death.

[Purple-Silver Fox]

No one understands me here because no one here has at least a spark of genius.


"No one can help me," intoned Marvin.

"Yes, sir, well ..."

"Not that anyone tried of course." The restraining metal hand
fell limply by Marvin's side. His head hung forward very
slightly.

"Is that so," said the insect tartly.

"Hardly worth anyone's while to help a menial robot is it?"

"I'm sorry, sir, if ..."

"I mean where's the percentage in being kind or helpful to a
robot if it doesn't have any gratitude circuits?"

Maybe you could borrow Dunearhp's avatar, if you ask nicely.

[panda]

Note. Genius is unwelcome at the time of its conception. It is not welcomed until later, often after the genius's death.
Your humility is refreshing.

[Eileen]

:blink:

I can't believe I read the WHOLE THING.

[Nemesis]

:blink:

I can't believe I read the WHOLE THING.


I usually love reading your responses! you always have a resfreshing point of view! this is so disappointing!

[kuranes]

nemesis394: so what your saying is
nemesis394: since you didnt name anyone specific
nemesis394: you unintentionally exposed all the people on this forum who suck
nemesis394: and it happened
nemesis394: because they responded to a thread
nemesis394: which said "you people suck"
nemesis394: and since they responded without being personally named
nemesis394: they themselves
nemesis394: ...told the whole forum
nemesis394: ...that they suck



It looks alot as though thats exactly what you guys did

That's not the way I see it. He was referring to everyone on the forum besides Hustler and a few others, is what he said at the beginning. You're being a dick without being a great teacher here, Nemesis.

Besides not caring much about diplomacy, there aren't any similarities between Shai Gar and Hustler. Not much guideline to go by as far as who you two whiners are holding up as shining examples. I would say I respect Hustler far more than Shai, although Shai had more of a sense of humor.

[Nemesis]

I usually love reading your responses! you always have a resfreshing point of view! this is so disappointing!


zeitgeist says i wasnt abrasive enough so here goes...

YOU DISAPPOINT ME WHORE!!! :rant:

[mgb]

nemesis394: so what your saying is
nemesis394: since you didnt name anyone specific
nemesis394: you unintentionally exposed all the people on this forum who suck
nemesis394: and it happened
nemesis394: because they responded to a thread
nemesis394: which said "you people suck"
nemesis394: and since they responded without being personally named
nemesis394: they themselves
nemesis394: ...told the whole forum
nemesis394: ...that they suck



It looks alot as though thats exactly what you guys did

You're here too fucktard.

[Nemesis]

You're here too fucktard.


on zeits side... and if youll notice... I never responded with what could be construed as "I do not suck!"

[Sackanaka]

(dialogue)

It looks alot as though thats exactly what you guys did

It's been done before. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=3688&page=1&pp=10)

[Boneca]

:blink:

I can't believe I read the WHOLE THING.We actually deserve some pity for reading this...

It's interesting in a way, though. It seems zeitgeist suffers from the Shai Gar syndrome; when you realise you don't fit in with the rest of the world, you disconnect from reality and develop megalomaniac tendencies.

"I'm not weird, the rest of the world is just too stupid to understand my genious"....pah.

[abathur]

Senior. I'm advanced, bitch.
Point proven. Perhaps you're a special kind of genius?

I assume you've attended a public school where you've managed to rise above the average (which is roughly 100IQ) which is clearly an indisputible indication of your genius?

[euterpenc]

We actually deserve some pity for reading this...

It's interesting in a way, though. It seems zeitgeist suffers from the Shai Gar syndrome; when you realise you don't fit in with the rest of the world, you disconnect from reality and develop megalomaniac tendencies.

"I'm not weird, the rest of the world is just too stupid to understand my genious"....pah.

You're just jealous. genius*

[euterpenc]

Point proven. Perhaps you're a special kind of genius?

I assume you've attended a public school where you've managed to rise above the average (which is roughly 100IQ) which is clearly an indisputible indication of your genius?

And the average here is?

Also, IQ is NOT an indicator of intelligence.

[panda]

on zeits side... and if youll notice... I never responded with what could be construed as "I do not suck!"
I don't think any of us did. I was defending the forum as a whole.

[Nemesis]

We actually deserve some pity for reading this...

It's interesting in a way, though. It seems zeitgeist suffers from the Shai Gar syndrome; when you realise you don't fit in with the rest of the world, you disconnect from reality and develop megalomaniac tendencies.

"I'm not weird, the rest of the world is just too stupid to understand my genious"....pah.


I hate idiots like that. fuck you zeit, and shai, and einstein, and beethoven, and van gogh, and salvador dali, and pablo picasso, and abraham lincoln, and mozart, and all the rest of them

[Nemesis]

I don't think any of us did. I was defending the forum as a whole.



...yeahhhh... exactly...

[panda]

I hate idiots like that. fuck you zeit, and shai, and einstein, and beethoven, and van gogh, and salvador dali, and pablo picasso, and abraham lincoln, and all the rest of them
I like how you group zeitgeist with the likes of Einstein. I'm beginning to suspect you're zeitgeist's gay lover. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it would explain a lot.

[euterpenc]

I don't think any of us did. I was defending the forum as a whole.

You responded in an equivalent way.

[abathur]

You're just jealous. genius* You're hardly in a position to be correcting the grammar and spelling of others. Incorrect usage of "their" from self proclaimed HS Senior Genius (tm)? It's hardly a complex concept.

[euterpenc]

You're hardly in a position to be correcting the grammar and spelling of others. Incorrect usage of "their" from self proclaimed HS Senior Genius (tm)? It's hardly a complex concept.

Nitpicking is something that makes up for lack of substance.

[panda]

You responded in an equivalent way.
If you read my opening posts in this thread, I think you'll find that I was being quite reasonable.

[nottaprettygal]

Fair enough. Who is it that you speak of?

He's speaking of me and my uncanny ability to pick up various objects with my feet, along with my extensive knowledge of everything Kirk Cameron.

So I don't know what all this talk of substance devoid people is about.

PM me sometime, and we can chat about issues with substance. Hey, did you know that Kirk Cameron is a vegetarian?

[abathur]

Nitpicking is something that makes up for lack of substance.
So is hypocricy?

[Nemesis]

I like how you group zeitgeist with the likes of Einstein. I'm beginning to suspect you're zeitgeist's gay lover. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it would explain a lot.


see. yet again you prove his point of not being able to see the point. I grouped zeit and shai with the likes of einstein and beethoven to make a point. genius is never appriciated until its gone or until society is in desperate need of it.

[ptGatsby]

Incorrect usage of "their" from self proclaimed HS Senior Genius (tm)?


Wait wait! I know this one...

How about every highschool nerd drama that was ever on tv.

Well, maybe not. Sure feels like a highschool drama. "I'm so different". "I'm above you people". Blah blah.

Took me until at least 20 to realise that I'm not always right, nor super-advanced... and soon after, realised that people are people. Just like me.

[Mr Pink]

Nitpicking is something that makes up for lack of substance.

Using generalized quotes as arguments is an SJ trait.

[Sackanaka]

*hi-fives ptGatsby in an esteemed manner*

[Nemesis]

*hi-fives ptGatsby in an esteemed manner*


how the hell do you think thats clever! thats exactly what everyone else has said! that makes it common wisdom! which is often wrong!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

[abathur]

how the hell do you think thats clever! thats exactly what everyone else has said! that makes it common wisdom! which is often wrong!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!
Are you stealing arguments from the ID folks, again?

[Zero Angel]

see. yet again you prove his point of not being able to see the point. I grouped zeit and shai with the likes of einstein and beethoven to make a point. genius is never appriciated until its gone or until society is in desperate need of it.
I do not see whats so genius about it. Anyone can rag out on anyone else and proclaim themselves superior so that they can feel better about themselves. I think this method is called 'deflecting'. Hustler, at least, is able to stand on his own to make sense in a Te sort of way.

[euterpenc]

So is hypocricy?

No. Hypocrisy in proper form is superior to pure reason. Pure reason is itself flawed.

[Nemesis]

Are you stealing arguments from the ID folks, again?


que?

[Nemesis]

I do not see whats so genius about it. Anyone can rag out on anyone else and proclaim themselves superior. Hustler, on the other hand, makes sense in a Te sort of way.


thanks! :smooch:

[panda]

No. Hypocrisy in proper form is superior to pure reason. Pure reason is itself flawed.
:rolleyes:

This thread has officially delved into the realm of the absurd.

[euterpenc]

:rolleyes:

This thread has officially delved into the realm of the absurd.

That's what they say about geniuses.

[Zero Angel]

They're on to us. ABORT MISSION.

[abathur]

No. Hypocrisy in proper form is superior to pure reason. Pure reason is itself flawed.
Oh, you said "No" and then made an unqualified claim. Clearly, that makes it so. Yawn. Hypocrisy is, by definition, a lack of substance.

[euterpenc]

They're on to us. ABORT MISSION.

Abortion is wrong too.

[euterpenc]

Oh, you said "No" and then made an unqualified claim. Clearly, that makes it so. Yawn. Hypocrisy is, by definition, a lack of substance.

You still fail to grasp the truth being communicated here.

[panda]

That's what they say about geniuses.
Have you lost all touch with reality? Do you truly think you are a genius? Where are your great works? Your great ideas? Come on, let's see them.

I don't want to be too cruel to you, especially considering you're still in highschool, but you should expect confrontation when being so abrasive and outrageous.

[Nemesis]

Oh, you said "No" and then made an unqualified claim. Clearly, that makes it so. Yawn. Hypocrisy is, by definition, a lack of substance.


good god youre retarded.


hypocrisy:

Noun
Inflected forms: pl.hy·poc·ri·sies 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness.

[euterpenc]

Have you lost all touch with reality? Do you truly think you are a genius? Where are your great works? Your great ideas? Come on, let's see them.

I don't want to be too cruel to you, especially considering you're still in highschool, but you should expect confrontation when being so abrasive and outrageous.

I expect this. I have the potential to be a world changing force. I have the seed of genius, and water it.

[euterpenc]

good god youre retarded.


hypocrisy:

Noun
Inflected forms: pl.hy·poc·ri·sies 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness.

Yeah, I thought I wouldn't nitpick. But yeah, what an idiot. Pfft.

[nottaprettygal]

Random thought:

I wonder how many geniuses have myspace accounts.

[Conan]

wow, i cant believe i missed all this. zeitgeist is like the guy who cant stop talking about how big his penis is to compensate for having the smallest prick in the world. nemesis is the guy who just cant stop sucking it.

[euterpenc]

wow, i cant believe i missed all this. zeitgeist is like the guy who cant stop talking about how big his penis is to compensate for having the smallest prick in the world. nemesis is the guy who just cant stop sucking it.

No, you can't suck it, esteban.

[abathur]

good god youre retarded.


hypocrisy:

Noun
Inflected forms: pl.hy·poc·ri·sies 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness.

I'm not sure I can help either of you if you can't comprehend the manner in which hypocricy is a lack of substance.

[Nemesis]

wow, i cant believe i missed all this. zeitgeist is like the guy who cant stop talking about how big his penis is to compensate for having the smallest prick in the world. nemesis is the guy who just cant stop sucking it.



because that really causes damage

[Sackanaka]

nemesis394, I find it much more productive to laugh at silly things than make big deals out of them.

Yea, I know ptGatsby said exactly the same point. See, that's part of the ha-ha that comes with making stupid jokes. I make stupid jokes, it's a defense mechanism to stupid things, or when I myself feel stupid.

I genuinely apologized to Zeitgeist earlier, and I assume that the apology was not accepted as I am clumped together with the beknighted "Idiots."

And common wisdom... red herring?

[Conan]

No, you can't suck it, esteban.

youre right, i cant. physically. its just too small. besides nemesis wants it all to himself

[euterpenc]

Random thought:

I wonder how many geniuses have myspace accounts.

Enough.

[Zero Angel]

youre right, i cant. physically. its just too small.
I can (curls up into a ball).

[Nemesis]

youre right, i cant. physically. its just too small. besides nemesis wants it all to himself


oh i see. stepping in and defending a friend is now an act of homosexuality. let me guess. youre a republican

[Conan]

oh i see. stepping in and defending a friend is now an act of homosexuality. let me guess. youre a republican

what was that? all i can hear is your slurping

[euterpenc]

youre right, i cant. physically. its just too small. besides nemesis wants it all to himself

Yeah, your mouth is just too used to 12 inchers.

[Nemesis]

what was that? all i can hear is your slurping



by the way, thanks for proving us right :smooch:

[Purple-Silver Fox]

... Do you truly think you are a genius? Where are your great works? Your great ideas? Come on, let's see them.

I concur! Show us the way, master Zeitgeist.

[Conan]

by the way, thanks for proving us right :smooch:

slurp slurp

[Conan]

id say ive now contributed about just as much "substance" to this thread as you and your boyfriend

[Nemesis]

id say ive now contributed about just as much "substance" to this thread as you and your boyfriend



youd be wrong.

[ptGatsby]

Yea, I know ptGatsby said exactly the same point. See, that's part of the ha-ha that comes with making stupid jokes. I make stupid jokes, it's a defense mechanism to stupid things, or when I myself feel stupid.


Whoops, I should of figured someone would of mentioned it already :rolleyes:

I just figured, you know, that in this sea of mediocrity, no one would of possibly have said it so far. I guess I need a more offbeat reason.

I got it! He's invented a full fledged fantasy world out of Naruto, believing himself, just like naruto, to be the pariah of his entire school (village). Except, he knows he's special inside and is just acting out... and none of you will acknowledge him for his greatness!

Actually... that fits so well, it's a bit scary.

--

In my defense, I don't waste my time listening to angst ridden adolescent trolls. So I can't say I read anything that has been said here. Pray, do tell, what should I be commenting on?

I just figured he was trolling during his valuable computer time and responded in time. Cause you know, that's what geniuses do!

[euterpenc]

slurp slurp

Wtf are you doing down there man. Get off.

[euterpenc]

Whoops, I should of figured someone would of mentioned it already :rolleyes:

I just figured, you know, that in this sea of mediocrity, no one would of possibly have said it so far. I guess I need a more offbeat reason.

I got it! He's invented a full fledged fantasy world out of Naruto, believing himself, just like naruto, to be the pariah of his entire school (village). Except, he knows he's special inside and is just acting out... and none of you will acknowledge him for his greatness!

Actually... that fits so well, it's a bit scary.

--

In my defense, I don't waste my time listening to angst ridden adolescent trolls. So I can't say I read anything that has been said here. Pray, do tell, what should I be commenting on?

I just figured he was trolling during his valuable computer time and responded in time. Cause you know, that's what geniuses do!

Wrong again buddy. I should call you butter.

[Conan]

Wtf are you doing down there man. Get off.

for all your self righteousness, not to mention self proclaimed genius and wisdom it dont take much to drag you down the gutter

[abathur]

BTW, nemesis--the two of you have proved my initial assessment of Zeitgeist's posts to be correct.

"Whine, Whimper, I go to HS and no one appreciates my abilities." I've made a crucial error in saying that I'm sick of seeing most angsty teenage poetry. Please, by all means, direct this energy into some crappy poetry--then you can go around proclaiming to be the HS Senior Genius Poet or something. I'm sure your peers will lavish you with praise for the poem beginning with:
"No one understands me,
I want to cry.
No one cares about me.
I want to die.

Congratulations, btw. I was going to try to make it to 30 before I hated HS kids, but I guess it took a true genius to turn me against them early.

[ptGatsby]

Wrong again buddy. I should call you butter.



Which part? The angst? Its in your title... The naruto bit? It is your avatar...

And butter? I'm afraid I'm no longer a teenager... lingo and all that has been replaced by making sense. Please explain.

[euterpenc]

for all your self righteousness, not to mention self proclaimed genius and wisdom it dont take much to drag you down the gutter

I'm well traveled.

[Nemesis]

BTW, nemesis--the two of you have proved my initial assessment of Zeitgeist's posts to be correct.

"Whine, Whimper, I go to HS and no one appreciates my abilities." I've made a crucial error in saying that I'm sick of seeing most angsty teenage poetry. Please, by all means, direct this energy into some crappy poetry--then you can go around proclaiming to be the HS Senior Genius Poet or something. I'm sure your peers will lavish you with praise for the poem beginning with:
"No one understands me,
I want to cry.
No one cares about me.
I want to die.

Congratulations, btw. I was going to try to make it to 30 before I hated HS kids, but I guess it took a true genius to turn me against them early.




wtf are you prattling on about now?

[euterpenc]

Which part? The angst? Its in your title... The naruto bit? It is your avatar...

And butter? I'm afraid I'm no longer a teenager... lingo and all that has been replaced by making sense. Please explain.

Butter. Cause you're on a roll: of being wrong.

[Conan]

Butter. Cause you're on a roll: of being wrong.

sounds like a zoolander quote

[s0978]

Yeah, your mouth is just too used to 12 inchers.
I think that's exactly what Nietzsche would have said.

[ptGatsby]

Congratulations, btw. I was going to try to make it to 30 before I hated HS kids, but I guess it took a true genius to turn me against them early.


Yah, but don't shun them too much. Every teenager knows *everything*. You don't want to eliminate such a genius demographic. Who'd tell you were wrong about everything!?

Just wait till you have kids. If you still want em now, of course :)

[Rhu]

When I first realized that I do, indeed, suck, it was a terribly hard blow to take.

I had questions, of course. I wondered why people seemed to like the fact that I suck. I had initially decided that it was some sort of conspiracy to take advantage of my woolly-headed, dependent thinking. It concerned me. The realization that my suckage was something people craved was disturbing.

Naturally, I started gibbering, as I often do. I may have said some inappropriate things that gave people inappropriate ideas. My alarm increased. I stripped down to my tidy whities and ran out into the street, screaming about how much I suck. People took notice, and I soon found that I had a crowd following me. It was like the end of every Benny Hill episode, except there were suspiciously no large breasted women chasing me.

But on I went, wailing about how horrible I am, and how I had absolutely nothing substantive to contribute to any sort of community. Most of what I got in reply from the crowd was groans and growls, and one or two soccer moms asking me wide eyed why I wasn't wearing any pants.

"I SUCK!" I screamed. The crowd surged toward me again. My arms were above my head at this point. I was concerned that birds would swoop down from the sky and would plant themselves on my face for this, so hated would I be for sucking. Flailing, running, and screaming over and over did nothing to dissuade my followers, though.

Eventually, as these stories must go, I found myself trapped at a dead end. Surrounded. I tried to tell them all to leave me alone, because I suck. They tore the lowest branches off the tree, but I climbed higher.

I'm honestly not sure what happened next. I awoke at home, fully clothed, with a handful of small white stones in my pocket. I used them to build a tiny little white fort, that plastic toy WW2 soldiers would defend against plastic Native Americans.

Sometimes I think that memories of my suckisode want to spring from the deepest recesses of my memory, but I am afraid to recall it.

All this talk of me sucking as a subset of a larger, sucky group is comforting, somehow. I feel at home sucking with all of you. Perhaps, if we all sucked at the same time, we could reach a higher plane of spiritual awareness.

In any event, at least I have that thought to suck on.

[nottaprettygal]

Butter. Cause you're on a roll: of being wrong.

ZING!! And here I thought humor was lost on you. You have proven me wrong.

[joft]

I feel genuinely sorry for zeit; you all do realize that one day soon he will wake up in the morning or have a mood change sometime during the day and feel so incredibly fucking stupid about this post and all the things he's said in it? It's inevitable

[Conan]

Butter. Cause you're on a roll: of being wrong.

that comeback was in line with

Hansel: Why don't you dere-lict my balls?! Derek: No thanks, I can dere-lict my own balls!

[ptGatsby]

Butter. Cause you're on a roll: of being wrong.


Ah. That's certainly abstract! Well, I'd disagree, but you didn't say about what, so... I guess there's not much point.

God I hope I wasn't this pathetic when I was in school. Probably was though, now that I think about it. I was a Marxist >_<, knew everything... My goodness.

Just out of curiousity, do you like Bleach? And do you have the original fansubbed Naruto or the American translated version?

[eyebyte_atWork]

What is going on here???

I did not think we were into acting like children today - I must have missed the memo.

zeitgeist has a right to express himself and not be attacked because of it.

Let's all just give him his space.

[euterpenc]

Ah. That's certainly abstract! Well, I'd disagree, but you didn't say about what, so... I guess there's not much point.

God I hope I wasn't this pathetic when I was in school. Probably was though, now that I think about it. I was a Marxist >_<, knew everything... My goodness.

Just out of curiousity, do you like Bleach? And do you have the original fansubbed Naruto or the American translated version?

Fansubbed. I like bleach a little, but I find it too generic for my tastes. I've been watching Betterman lately.

[ptGatsby]

Fansubbed. I like bleach a little, but I find it too generic for my tastes. I've been watching Betterman lately.


Phew. You should try watching bleach till eps ~15 or so. I actually hated it until I watched 3-4, then my GF forced to me watch it. I far prefer it to naruto now (bleh, could be the 150 episode length too. It does get old eventually).

I haven't seen Betterman... actually, I haven't even heard of it! I can't find it on Animesuki either. Where do you get it from?

[nomir_dva]

Every teenager knows *everything*. You don't want to eliminate such a genius demographic. Who'd tell you were wrong about everything!?

Wait - are you saying that I was left out of yet another aspect of childhood? Horrible. No one appreciates my uniquely limited knowledge.

Teenagers tend to have unstable emotions, which can lead to outbursts such as some we have seen here. Of course, adults often do the same thing. I fail to see where youth falls into this picture - but that may be because I am young.

[Conan]

What is going on here???

I did not think we were into acting like children today - I must have missed the memo.

zeitgeist has a right to express himself and not be attacked because of it.

Let's all just give him his space.

wtf eyebyte, such self adulation, forged arrogance and condescension unbacked by the substance or intelligence he "attacks" others for lacking deserves to be ridiculed, people are expressing themselves the same way he expressed HIMself

[kendoiwan]

wtf eyebyte, such self adulation, forged arrogance and condescension unbacked by the substance or intelligence he attacks others for lacking deserves to be ridiculed, people are expressing themselves the same way he expressed HIMself

touche
:ph34r:

[Madrigal]

When I first realized that I do, indeed, suck, it was a terribly hard blow to take.

I had questions, of course. I wondered why people seemed to like the fact that I suck. I had initially decided that it was some sort of conspiracy to take advantage of my woolly-headed, dependent thinking. It concerned me. The realization that my suckage was something people craved was disturbing.

Naturally, I started gibbering, as I often do. I may have said some inappropriate things that gave people inappropriate ideas. My alarm increased. I stripped down to my tidy whities and ran out into the street, screaming about how much I suck. People took notice, and I soon found that I had a crowd following me. It was like the end of every Benny Hill episode, except there were suspiciously no large breasted women chasing me.

But on I went, wailing about how horrible I am, and how I had absolutely nothing substantive to contribute to any sort of community. Most of what I got in reply from the crowd was groans and growls, and one or two soccer moms asking me wide eyed why I wasn't wearing any pants.

"I SUCK!" I screamed. The crowd surged toward me again. My arms were above my head at this point. I was concerned that birds would swoop down from the sky and would plant themselves on my face for this, so hated would I be for sucking. Flailing, running, and screaming over and over did nothing to dissuade my followers, though.

Eventually, as these stories must go, I found myself trapped at a dead end. Surrounded. I tried to tell them all to leave me alone, because I suck. They tore the lowest branches off the tree, but I climbed higher.

I'm honestly not sure what happened next. I awoke at home, fully clothed, with a handful of small white stones in my pocket. I used them to build a tiny little white fort, that plastic toy WW2 soldiers would defend against plastic Native Americans.

Sometimes I think that memories of my suckisode want to spring from the deepest recesses of my memory, but I am afraid to recall it.

All this talk of me sucking as a subset of a larger, sucky group is comforting, somehow. I feel at home sucking with all of you. Perhaps, if we all sucked at the same time, we could reach a higher plane of spiritual awareness.

In any event, at least I have that thought to suck on.

You're one of my favourite posters. I want to suck that bad too.

[kendoiwan]

You're one of my favourite posters. I want to suck that bad too.

I thought you weren't into oral :ph34r:

[ingenting]

I like zeitgeist's initial post, but haven't read the thread. I can guess what it is about from its length :D Go zeitgeit. All kinds of attacks are most welcome. And having lurked about here I am too a little dissappointed that the threads mostly consists of ranting about other personality types being stupid.

[Claverhouse]

I feel genuinely sorry for zeit; you all do realize that one day soon he will wake up in the morning or have a mood change sometime during the day and feel so incredibly fucking stupid about this post and all the things he's said in it? It's inevitable
You really shouldn't have said that.

Moved to The Classics.


God, I'm good.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

[ptGatsby]

I fail to see where youth falls into this picture - but that may be because I am young.


Its just a development stage. And of course, it was a bit tongue in cheek, since nearly every teenager in existance rebelled against 'the man' in some way.

The point being that its not INTP specific... not even age specific. Its something we all go through. For all that types cast us differently, in many ways we are programmed the same way.



Teenagers tend to have unstable emotions, which can lead to outbursts such as some we have seen here. Of course, adults often do the same thing.


What is implied is that the F in kids is much less mature than adults... but adults do not mean a mature F.

In short, very few kids can have a fully healthy F (ie: think tantrums, me me in childhood, progressing up to adulthood). Actually, I'd say its impossible without some form of emotional trauma, which is kinda bad way to have a 'healthy' F.

I highly recommend that INTPs work on their F. Thinking back to the way I acted when I was young makes me almost ashamed... almost, since I also realise that's what teenagers are like too. I wasn't unique and was far better than many, including friends and family.

But it also cost me significantly in relationships and such, something that would of supported me properly. Hindsight is 20/20 though!

[kendoiwan]

You really shouldn't have said that.

Moved to The Classics.


God, I'm good.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

:worthy:

[Conan]

You really shouldn't have said that.

Moved to The Classics.


God, I'm good.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

this is great, im pissed i had to go back to work today

[mgb]

You really shouldn't have said that.

Moved to The Classics.


God, I'm good.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

It's funny how thin the line between Classic and Dumpster is.

[panda]

It's funny how thin the line between Classic and Dumpster is.
Like a razor's edge.

[s0978]

I feel genuinely sorry for zeit; you all do realize that one day soon he will wake up in the morning or have a mood change sometime during the day and feel so incredibly fucking stupid about this post and all the things he's said in it? It's inevitableAw. For the record I like and appreciate Zeitgeist very much. Very good existentialist woe! posts. I think it's great he is comfortable with saying 'you suck, I hate you all.'

[kuranes]

It's funny how thin the line between Classic and Dumpster is.

LOL

Then there are those somewhere in between. Like the term "brunch" between breakfast and lunch, we just call these "clumps".

[Purple-Silver Fox]

It's funny how thin the line between Classic and Dumpster is.
They connect at the bottom.

[Eileen]

I usually love reading your responses! you always have a resfreshing point of view! this is so disappointing!

Well, sadly, I don't think that this particular thread merits my thoughtful responses. It just manages to merit my bewildered raised eyebrows and a half-formed "wt..." It's kind of like watching someone drop a kitten off of the Empire State Building.

Actually, it's not really like that at all. But isn't that a hilariously morbid image? I love kittens.

[Conan]

i just got here, tell me its not over

[panda]

I love kittens.
Why thank you.

[LuridLemur]

I expect this. I have the potential to be a world changing force. I have the seed of genius, and water it.
Okay this has to be a joke :rofl:

If it isn't, would you mind revealing some of your brilliant ideas?

[Eileen]

Okay this has to be a joke :rofl:

If it isn't, would you mind revealing some of your brilliant ideas?

Well, obviously he's good at making up complicated metaphors.

[C.J.Woolf]

:popcorn:

So this is how you get your post count up in a hurry.

Assuming you don't delete them later.

Carry on.

:popcorn:

[Claverhouse]

It's funny how thin the line between Classic and Dumpster is.
Yesss. To exemplify I was going to post a quote from Browning regarding which way the spittle runs on a Tartar's palm. Unfortunately since this was from a Kyril Bonfiglioli thriller ( which the author may have invented himself ) not to hand, and google (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=tartar+palm+spittle&btnG=Search) was useless ( although that's a bloody weird page if you cared to explore ) I won't...

Yet still, looking back there's some stuff here that deserves better than the Dumpster ( and agreed, zeitgeist does have several good points --- if the original delivery was vaguely insane ):



I hate idiots like that. fuck you zeit, and shai, and einstein, and beethoven, and van gogh, and salvador dali, and pablo picasso, and abraham lincoln, and mozart, and all the rest of them

I expect this. I have the potential to be a world changing force. I have the seed of genius, and water it.

zeitgeist says i wasnt abrasive enough so here goes...

YOU DISAPPOINT ME WHORE!!! :rant:

Claverhouse :ph34r:

[aether]

:popcorn:

So this is how you get your post count up in a hurry.

Assuming you don't delete them later.

Carry on.

:popcorn:

Precisely, I think that is the root of the problem, at this forum. The bar is set at 1000 post or more (the more the better). It has always been a posts race and people's words just get lost, it's a shame but I don't really care because I am selective and know how "find the gold."

[euterpenc]

Phew. You should try watching bleach till eps ~15 or so. I actually hated it until I watched 3-4, then my GF forced to me watch it. I far prefer it to naruto now (bleh, could be the 150 episode length too. It does get old eventually).

I haven't seen Betterman... actually, I haven't even heard of it! I can't find it on Animesuki either. Where do you get it from?

I first saw it on techtv, but I dl all my anime and anime soundtracks from www.boxtorrents.com

[euterpenc]

[QUOTE=ptGatsby]I highly recommend that INTPs work on their F.QUOTE]

Not quite. There's nothing wrong with it to be worked on. having emotions and expressing them isn't wrong. And being logical isn't all that matters.

In addition, I find a lack of intuition here, and an overabundance of thinking. Perhaps it's time for a magical run through the woods to see the mystical dwarves. The concrete jungle jungle and constant consumption theme have rotted your imaginations.

[euterpenc]

Okay this has to be a joke :rofl:

If it isn't, would you mind revealing some of your brilliant ideas?

If you actually took what I said as I said it and meant it, you would notice that I said seed, not fully grown plant.