Intellectual Snob-ishness

[synchronous]

Alright, be honest. We are thinkers, and like to intellectuallize. Who is prepared to admit they engage in intellectual snobbery, that they like to engage covertly or overtly in intellectual one-upmanship?

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

[Sam172]

Well....to a degree.
I tend to put down people whom I feel are unable to hold up even a half decent intellectual conversation, which is pretty harsh really...

[cloakable]

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yeah, I'm an intellectual snob, but I disagree that there is anything wrong with that. Therefore, there is nothing to heal, or correct, as it were. If you don't like the fact that I like intelligent people over stupid people, well, thats your problem, not mine.

[EternalCynic]

Ah, yes >_>. Just last night I ripped this guy a new one *ahm* because I was sick of his crap. He claims to be a certified genius *eyeroll* (I think he is an ISTJ, though that doesnt have much to do with it) but shows NO sign of it. He can't even use the words "to/too/two" correctly! I'm always beating him down with logic and he just shrugs it off as if to say "Oh you silly thing, I do not need this for I know that I are smarter then yoo r."

So yes, I can be prone to intellectual snobbery at times.. I should really get control of that, lol

[cloakable]

Ah, yes >_>. Just last night I ripped this guy a new one *ahm* because I was sick of his crap. He claims to be a certified genius *eyeroll* (I think he is an ISTJ, though that doesnt have much to do with it) but shows NO sign of it. He can't even use the words "to/too/two" correctly! I'm always beating him down with logic and he just shrugs it off as if to say "Oh you silly thing, I do not need this for I know that I are smarter then yoo r."

So yes, I can be prone to intellectual snobbery at times.. I should really get control of that, lol

Hehe, logic is the product of IQ, so therefore (logicaly, at least) the higher the IQ, the more logical you are. It has nothing to do with 'needing' or 'not needing' it just is. At least, that is what my trusty N is telling me. :D

[spirilis]

I always remember from HS psychology that IQ merely denotes your mind's ability to adapt, not judge logically. So IQ influences your ability to learn, your ability to adjust to situations, etc.

[Utopmk]

So, you just assume you're smarter than people who don't express themselves intellectually? How can you ever know?

Afterall, it's always the dumb ones who really make you think.

[Jezebel]

It depends. I don't care about book smarts and knowledge, or having a very high IQ. I believe there are other kinds of intelligence that I consider more important. It bugs me when someone can't seem to understand me though. I don't want to have to explain every little thing I say all the time, or when someone assumes I mean things that I don't. So, I can handle those who aren't intellectual geniuses (I don't consider myself one anway), just not people who are rampantly stupid.

[Johnny]

I enjoy taking a position and getting involved in arguments, but I'm not fool enough to think that I will be right in the end...even if my position appears incredibly favorable.

On reflection, I probably am an intellectual snob. :lol:

[Avengardh]

It really depends with the person.

I am usually pretty understanding and have quite a lot of patience with people who don't understand things and ask me about them (just this week I helped another person understand dimensional analysis), it's only when they attack me personally and act cocky about it that I get annoyed (if you are taking Calc I and are in Calc-based Physics and act like you know everything better than I...it will get annoying) and perhaps I will act on it, perhaps I won't.

It depends on what the outcomes could be and what I would get from it (not material), I guess you can say I am more cunning than an intellectual-snob.

~*Aven*~

[nobarcode]

I don't think (hope) anyone takes me seriously enough to be considered a snob. I know I don't. I generally consider myself dumb; It enhances the adventure. :)

[Vagabond]

I only mind those that are narrow minded and refuse to consider any options different than their own. I don't mind people that are not smart or that can't engage in intellectual conversations. After all, I can't engage in emotional discussions much either. Each to their own.

[Melody]

I don't think I am snobbish. Snobbery is something I hate. It is often that people prove me wrong and I am appreciative. However, some of them...some of the fuckers not only prove me wrong but go on to question my intelligence. That is snobbish.

[Daoloth]

Hell yes, I am an intellectual snob. But, er, I'd phrase it differently. Perhaps 'intolerant of a lack of intelligence'? Much like cloakable, I enjoy the company of the intelligent more than the company of those with dubious mental processes.

However, as long as said person is willing to learn, (eg, requests intellectual aid or is literally willing to learn) I am happy to associate with them. Hmm.

[s]

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yeah, I'm an intellectual snob, but I disagree that there is anything wrong with that. Therefore, there is nothing to heal, or correct, as it were. If you don't like the fact that I like intelligent people over stupid people, well, thats your problem, not mine.


:cheers: That's one way of putting it...

"Prowess: a superior skill that you can learn by study and practice and observation"

To some, honing their intellectual prowess is instinctual and compulsive. Snobbery or arrogance can be read into this exercise of skill, but is not necessarily the motivation or intention. "Dumbing down" is only constructive for keeping the peace and many INTP's are hardly interested.

Healthy competition is vital and can be great fun.

I have been called every kind of snob and generally see it as envy (unless I made an arrogant ad hominem attack and "snob" is retaliation).

:nerd:

[Lucas]

..... honing their intellectual prowess is instinctual and compulsive. Snobbery or arrogance can be read into this exercise of skill, but is not necessarily the motivation or intention. "Dumbing down" is only constructive for keeping the peace and many INTP's are hardly interested.
Healthy competition is vital and can be great fun.
:nerd:

I agree with s.

Intellectual one-upmanship? I do that, but I'm really good about not doing it in my day to day interactions with people. I really don't like people who always have to be right and seem to have the answer for every problem on Earth today.

There is a place for this competition. It is one of the most important parts of science, in my opinion. If everybody's opinions were all viewed as being equally valid, there could be no intellectual progress. PC garbage, with no resemblance of reality.

This almost cut-throat side of academia is what pushes things to that next level. Peek into some scientific journals, and you'll often find a ruthless competition that, in effect, sets the bar higher and higher.

That said, being an intellectual snob to people in your everyday life is a good way to become friendless and lonely. I just need to direct this natural tendency towards my studies, and LEAVE IT THERE. Easier said than done.

Whew! On to step 2, eh?

-Lucas

[s]

:blink: So THAT's why I am lonely... :cry:

:rofl:

[Division56]

I am an intellectual snob, but not to my friends. And if someone is trying to make a friend feel stupid or attacking them, I get very defensive.

[Aryan]

No I am not a snob
But i try to get people to understand something correctly
At some point i surely consider other people stupid, but if that's snobbery then ... well i can't say anything
But I very much like to put down egoistic people

[s]

Come to think of it, all of my friends are "intellectual snobs." :lol:

[libertarianjim]

I can be, if someone who won't understand what I'm doing asks me. Usually it's the wrong person to act aloof towards (i.e. a family member).

From "High Fidelity":
"You feel like the unappreciated scholars, so you shit on the people who know less than you..."
"Naw."
"... which is everybody."
"Yeah...."

[s]

Man, High Fidelity is awesome. I need to go back and read/watch that one again.

[synchronous]

..... honing their intellectual prowess is instinctual and compulsive. Snobbery or arrogance can be read into this exercise of skill, but is not necessarily the motivation or intention. "Dumbing down" is only constructive for keeping the peace and many INTP's are hardly interested.
Healthy competition is vital and can be great fun.
:nerd:

I agree with s.

Intellectual one-upmanship? I do that, but I'm really good about not doing it in my day to day interactions with people. I really don't like people who always have to be right and seem to have the answer for every problem on Earth today.

There is a place for this competition. It is one of the most important parts of science, in my opinion. If everybody's opinions were all viewed as being equally valid, there could be no intellectual progress. PC garbage, with no resemblance of reality.

This almost cut-throat side of academia is what pushes things to that next level. Peek into some scientific journals, and you'll often find a ruthless competition that, in effect, sets the bar higher and higher.

That said, being an intellectual snob to people in your everyday life is a good way to become friendless and lonely. I just need to direct this natural tendency towards my studies, and LEAVE IT THERE. Easier said than done.

Whew! On to step 2, eh?

-Lucas


Yes, I agree. there is a time and a place to use your intellectual prowess. It would be foolish to enter into the realms of academia, science, thinking you won't be challenged, or to refrain from using your intellectual sword to puncture holes in someone else's argument. "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't want to argue with you for fear of hurting your feelings..." You'd be the laughing stock of your section.

My enquiry about being an 'intellectual snob' implied being motivated to display your intellect with people in your everyday life. Society places high currency towards intelligence. I'd say, there is a temptation to flaunt your prowess to gain currency when there really is no need to. Like you say, it is a good way to become friendless and lonely. Interesting how a vacuum is created when you do this. lol.

[synchronous]

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yeah, I'm an intellectual snob, but I disagree that there is anything wrong with that. Therefore, there is nothing to heal, or correct, as it were. If you don't like the fact that I like intelligent people over stupid people, well, thats your problem, not mine.

The last part of my enquiry was meant as contextual playfullness, hence the " ;) ". No serious consumption required. Sorry you missed that. But, you bring up an interesting concept - stupidity.

How do you define stupidity? How can you tell when someone is stupid? When do you know to apply a dumbing down 'spanking'. Let's say a poster's mother tongue is not English, but, English is the common language used in the forum. He/she struggles with spelling and grammar in an debate, the result being that their argument does not sound all entirely cogent (you don't know the poster actually has a PhD in physics and can expertly address his/her argument in their native tongue). Would you place a judgement of stupidity against that poster? If a person is a visual spatial learner and has difficulty expressing themselves in writing or in speech, that they underachieve against the backdrop of more sequential style learning/expression (check out links below). That person could truly be gifted and remarkably intelligent but unable to have that converted into an IQ number to hand out to people and wear like a suit of armour. Would you be able to recognize that person, and would you apply a dumbing down 'spanking' then? Some biographers mention that Einstein was considered slow, perhaps autistic when he was young. If you met Einstein in his younger years, would you think of giving him a 'spanking'?

http://www.longleaf.net/ggrow/WriteVisual/Table1.html#anchor448429

http://home.wsd.wednet.edu/WSD/enrichment/gifted_visual-spatial_lear.htm

[cloakable]

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yeah, I'm an intellectual snob, but I disagree that there is anything wrong with that. Therefore, there is nothing to heal, or correct, as it were. If you don't like the fact that I like intelligent people over stupid people, well, thats your problem, not mine.

The last part of my enquiry was meant as contextual playfullness, hence the " ;) ". No serious consumption required. Sorry you missed that. But, you bring up an interesting concept - stupidity.

Ouch, your post indicates you have a good grasp of irony and sarcasm, but not 100% recognition rate of it. Generally, you'll find that I will respond to irony and sarcasm with the same, but deadpanned. You have to know me well to catch it though.

And thank you for casting doubts on my inteligence. B)

[booyalab]

I think the line between intellectual discourse and intellectual snob-ishness is crossed when one of the parties is not as interested in asserting themselves intellectually but is nonetheless being ridiculed by the other for not living up to the their own standard of intellect. If two people are mutually interested in challenging each other mentally and/or aren't taking it seriously, it's fine. But I think it's childish and arrogant(and I've sometimes been guilty of this, too) to hold someone else up to your own subjective standard of intellectual competency. Of course this only applies when one person is clearly not interested in being challenged mentally. There are times when obviously stupid people think they're intelligent and they invite criticism by those who know better.

[synchronous]

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yeah, I'm an intellectual snob, but I disagree that there is anything wrong with that. Therefore, there is nothing to heal, or correct, as it were. If you don't like the fact that I like intelligent people over stupid people, well, thats your problem, not mine.

The last part of my enquiry was meant as contextual playfullness, hence the " ;) ". No serious consumption required. Sorry you missed that. But, you bring up an interesting concept - stupidity.

Ouch, your post indicates you have a good grasp of irony and sarcasm, but not 100% recognition rate of it. Generally, you'll find that I will respond to irony and sarcasm with the same, but deadpanned. You have to know me well to catch it though.

And thank you for casting doubts on my inteligence. B)

Yah, sure pal, whatever you say. ;)

[cloakable]

Isn't sarcasm fun? :D

[Melody]

You guys should mud-arm wrestle.


How do you define stupidity? How can you tell when someone is stupid? When do you know to apply a dumbing down 'spanking'. Let's say a poster's mother tongue is not English, but, English is the common language used in the forum. He/she struggles with spelling and grammar in an debate, the result being that their argument does not sound all entirely cogent (you don't know the poster actually has a PhD in physics and can expertly address his/her argument in their native tongue). Would you place a judgement of stupidity against that poster? If a person is a visual spatial learner and has difficulty expressing themselves in writing or in speech, that they underachieve against the backdrop of more sequential style learning/expression (check out links below). That person could truly be gifted and remarkably intelligent but unable to have that converted into an IQ number to hand out to people and wear like a suit of armour. Would you be able to recognize that person, and would you apply a dumbing down 'spanking' then? Some biographers mention that Einstein was considered slow, perhaps autistic when he was young. If you met Einstein in his younger years, would you think of giving him a 'spanking'?

http://www.longleaf.net/ggrow/WriteVisual/Table1.html#anchor448429

http://home.wsd.wednet.edu/WSD/enrichment/gifted_visual-spatial_lear.htm

This relates to my perception that intelligence does not exist.

[Claverhouse]

This relates to my perception that intelligence does not exist.

Except in the eye of the beholder.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[s]

This relates to my perception that intelligence does not exist.

Except in the eye of the beholder.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

:rofl:

[Google Monster]

I consider myself a bit modest. Although there are times I must laugh when someone says something wrong or I take their words out of context.

[Boozer]

I also think of myself as being modest. And whatever intellectual snobbishness I've had has been squashed by you brainiacs :P

[cloakable]

That's what we're here for!

[file cabinet]

I suspect I can come off as a pretentious elitist asshole... and at a web programming/development forum I go to, I can be condescending toward people who know very little but because I know they know very little then sometimes I try not to be as harsh. It's hard when I understand programming infinitely better then my boss and he talks about stuff that I already know... I do not act snobbish toward him mainly because I know he has a lot more on his mind then programming(something he barely does although is capable) also because he is a friend.

[Boozer]

Also because he controls your paycheck. :D

[file cabinet]

Also because he controls your paycheck. :D

nah.. I'm his right man.. it's different... I am only critical when I need to be.

[synchronous]

How do you define stupidity? How can you tell when someone is stupid? When do you know to apply a dumbing down 'spanking'. Let's say a poster's mother tongue is not English, but, English is the common language used in the forum. He/she struggles with spelling and grammar in an debate, the result being that their argument does not sound all entirely cogent (you don't know the poster actually has a PhD in physics and can expertly address his/her argument in their native tongue). Would you place a judgement of stupidity against that poster? If a person is a visual spatial learner and has difficulty expressing themselves in writing or in speech, that they underachieve against the backdrop of more sequential style learning/expression (check out links below). That person could truly be gifted and remarkably intelligent but unable to have that converted into an IQ number to hand out to people and wear like a suit of armour. Would you be able to recognize that person, and would you apply a dumbing down 'spanking' then? Some biographers mention that Einstein was considered slow, perhaps autistic when he was young. If you met Einstein in his younger years, would you think of giving him a 'spanking'?

http://www.longleaf.net/ggrow/WriteVisual/Table1.html#anchor448429

http://home.wsd.wednet.edu/WSD/enrichment/gifted_visual-spatial_lear.htm

This relates to my perception that intelligence does not exist.

Look at it another way: consider that there exists at least 9 forms of intelligence. The two forms that are most recognized, rewarded and supported in western culture are verbal/linquistic and logical/mathematical. If you are blessed in these areas, you can afford to flaunt it somewhat since society values them above the others. You might feel you have the right to be critical towards someone that doesn't seem too logical (ie dumb). The Intelligence Quotient essentially represents your abilities in only several areas of intelligence - primarily the two most valued, and visual/spatial intelligence. The implication is that if you don't have these forms of intelligence to a measured degree (low IQ), you are considered dumb, below average 'intelligence'. In fact, what it means is that your strengths are not in these areas. If you travel primarily through body/kinesthetic intelligence, you could be out of luck - no high IQ for you. If you have visual/spatial intelligence, but, low verbal/linquistic intelligence or auditory/sequencing processes, you are also out of luck. Alot of VS learners are considered gifted 'intellectually' but fall through the cracks, underachieve because of low auditory/sequencing abilities.

If you read through the descriptions of the different forms of intelligence (see link below or do your own google search on multiple intelligence), you can start to see loose/informal correlations between MBTI type and intelligence type (or a combination of types). For example, Interpersonal and Intrapersonal forms most likely favored by NFs and SFs; Body/kinesthetic favored by the ISTPs/ESTPs and so on. If you are not getting along with your ISFP boss/friend/co-worker/parent and think they are dumb, consider rather that they are using another 'language' of intelligence.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rstack1/world/rss/files/intelligences.htm

[waxwing]

I was called a know-it-all recently. I didn't take it too seriously though because the person who called me that is ignorant and she really doesn't know me at all. If I am an intellectualy snob to her, then i don't really care. But most of the time I do care if people think of me that way. I can't help standing back so I can analyze a social scene. I think this is when I run the risk of sounding snobbish. Sometimes I jump in with a comment, realizing that it may come across like I think I am the only one who really knows, but at the time i always feel like I have no choice. Keeping quiet in those situations is too hard. I mostly only speak up like this when I am sure that "they just don't get it." Otherwise, I usually keep my learning "evidence" (i.e.books) out of sight unless someone seems interested in really getting to know me.

[file cabinet]

this snobbishnessd.. maybe a result of having very little tact ?

[Claverhouse]

The hyphen in the title is really bugging me.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Niflheimian]

The hyphen in the title is really bugging me.

Agreed. "Snobbishness" is a word, people. No need for the hyphen. :nerd:

[Johnny]

The only thing I don't like about the hyphen is that it begs the question: is the activity of snobishness and the attribute of being a snob one and the same? :nerd:

[jimkopelli]

Nah. You can be snobbish without being a snob... I think. Maybe being snobbish makes you a snob for the duration of your snobbery, and then you're done... you know, snob is a funny word. Snob. Snobby snobber of snobberation. Snobbity snob snob snob.

[file cabinet]

could you wipe off my snob? where's my snob ! ARGH THE SNOBBERY OF IT ALL!!! snobtastic

jimkopelli, I think you're onto something, just hold the snob this time, okay?

don't let the snob hit you on the way out

[jimkopelli]

Maybe it could be a new kind of bottled water or something... only available in overpriced vending machines in select country clubs.
"Why aren't YOU drinking Snob? Your neighbors started last month, and our stock options went through the roof! Buy Snob... today!"

[HairlessBluetick]

don't let the snob hit you on the way out

Lol... for some reason this reminds me of the joke about adding "in my pants" to advertising slogans.

[Claverhouse]

don't let the snob hit you on the way out

Lol... for some reason this reminds me of the joke about adding "in my pants" to advertising slogans.

I'm certainly not being snide or anti-American here, believe me, s'just that yesterday, brooding on the right-wing capitalistic bushites at another forum, I realised that in the more sententious and self-approving of quotes on the glories of being a Yank, you could perfectly well substitute 'Imbecile' for 'American' and it would make as much sense.



I was born an Imbecile; I will live an Imbecile; I shall die an Imbecile. Daniel Webster (1782 - 1852)


Why should we be frightened? No people who have ever lived on this earth have fought harder, paid a higher price for freedom, or done more to advance the dignity of man than the living Imbeciles, those Imbeciles living in this land today.
--Ronald Reagan


Sometimes people call me an idealist. Well, that is the way I know I am an Imbecile. Imbecilia is the only idealistic nation in the world. ~Woodrow Wilson


When an Imbecile says that he loves his country, he means not only that he loves the New England hills, the prairies glistening in the sun, the wide and rising plains, the great mountains, and the sea. He means that he loves an inner air, an inner light in which freedom lives and in which a man can draw the breath of self-respect. ~Adlai Stevenson



"Imbecile Girls and Imbecile Guys
We'll always stand up and salute
We'll always recognize
When we see Old Glory Flying
There's a lot of men dead
So we can sleep in peace at night
When we lay down our head."

"Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you'll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
'Cause we'll put a boot in your *ss
It's the Imbecile way" -- Toby Keith, Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue

As said, not anti-American cos' this could be done for any country: just that American ( & Irish ) patriots seem particularly prone to wind-blown rhetoric and embarassing sentiment.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Niflheimian]

Nice work, Claverhouse. *applauds*

[s]

I am proud to be an Imbecile, where at least I know I'm free...

...and I won't forget the ibeciles who died and gave that right to meeeeeeee.


....God Bless Imbeceliaaaaaaaaaa!



http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/eagle.jpg

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/bush.jpg

[Dunearhp]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/eagle.jpg

Aargh, Imperialist eagle. :shock:

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/Koala.jpg

Two can play at that game

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/Boxing-Kangaroo.gif


Don't worry, I'm not really serious B)

[s]

Hilarious. I wasn't serious either.



:rofl:

[flan2dave]

:lol:

Yes, I would say Big Fish chronicled somebody living out the imbecile dream.

[Johnny]

Well, as far as my question goes, I think that's 1 "yes" (Claverhouse) and 1 "no" (jimkopelli). :lol:

God bless Imbecilia indeed. :sombrero:

[MacGuffin]

The hyphen in the title is really bugging me.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

Snob. ;P

[nobarcode]

The whole title bothers me. It should have been "Whose snobishness will be revealed?"

[synchronous]

The hyphen in the title is really bugging me.

Agreed. "Snobbishness" is a word, people. No need for the hyphen. :nerd:

Well, English is not my mother tongue. You'll have to excuse my inappropriate use of the language. But, if any admins/moderators would like to change the title to some more pleasing title that is relevant to the topic, please feel free.

[Dunearhp]

If the title was changed then there would be nothing to complain about. Then how would we demonstrate our snobbishness-ness?

[synchronous]

If the title was changed then there would be nothing to complain about. Then how would we demonstrate our snobbishness-ness?

Good 'thinking'. lol. Alright it's settled. The irritating title should remain as-is. When there is nothing good to complain about on the forum, we can all jump back to this topic and complain about the annoying hyphen and bastardization of the English language. Here here!

[cloakable]

Seconded!

[synchronous]

Seconded!

What are you referring to - my last statement or someone else's reply? Best to connect your thought directly with a quote and use complete, grammatically correct sentences to ensure everyone understands perfectly what you mean. :devil:

[cloakable]

What are you referring to - my last statement or someone else's reply? Best to connect your thought directly with a quote and use complete, grammatically correct sentences to ensure everyone understands perfectly what you mean.

Your last statement.

And on the second point, why? Can you not understand what I meant? And what if I didn't want 'everyone' to know what I meant? :D :ph34r: :devil:

[synchronous]

What are you referring to - my last statement or someone else's reply? Best to connect your thought directly with a quote and use complete, grammatically correct sentences to ensure everyone understands perfectly what you mean.

Your last statement.

And on the second point, why? Can you not understand what I meant? And what if I didn't want 'everyone' to know what I meant? :D :ph34r: :devil:

Can you spell r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c-a-l? ;P :devil: :rofl:

[cloakable]

Nope, thats not in my vocabulary.
r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c-a-l? Whats that?
:D :rofl: :ph34r:

[synchronous]

Nope, thats not in my vocabulary.
r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c-a-l? Whats that?
:D :rofl: :ph34r:

I'm sorry, that was some intellectual snob-ishness-ness-ness on my part. Must mind my manners. :zzz: :devil:

[Groty]

Alright, be honest. We are thinkers, and like to intellectuallize. Who is prepared to admit they engage in intellectual snobbery, that they like to engage covertly or overtly in intellectual one-upmanship?

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

Yup! Definitely. I have become proficient at dumbing myself down in order to communicate with people at work.

On the other hand... I do enjoy talking to people that aren't so caught up in thinking. They tend to bring my feet back down to ground, simplify things... sorta... in a cosmic Twinkie kinda way.

Huh?

[Miss Padfoot]

Yeah, guilty as charged - a definite intellectual snob here. However, I take care to avoid being condescending about it. I hate condescension almost as much as I hate ignorance. So I just treat the incurably, stubbornly stupid with a quiet disdain, and try and encourage people to use their intelligence if I think they have untapped mental resources.

[Boozer]

I think I have a teaching streak and tend to try to explain things to people until thier eyes glaze over. Then I apologize and talk about movies. One advantage of working in IT is there are a good amount of NT's around so it's not too bad.

[Arcael]

Come to think of it, all of my friends are "intellectual snobs." :lol:

Agreed, I dont tend to put people down though I just dont talk to them :)

[lauriep]

I'll admit that you could probably call me an intellectual snob. I also tend to have friends that are also intellectual snobs and we often engage in friendly competitiveness (who got the highest test scores, gpa, etc.) in school. However I make a point to try not to criticize other people (it's not their fault if their dumb.)

[cloakable]

However I make a point to try not to criticize other people (it's not their fault if their dumb.)

But it's dammed annoying when they try to talk to you (however it can be amusing if you unleash the full power of your intellect upon them, the blank looks of incomprehension make me laugh, often out loud.)

[Dunearhp]

:blink:

[Almaviva]

I used to be an intellectual snob. Now I believe that the only meaningful definition of intelligence includes only that which can be used to accomplish something. By this token, anyone who thinks they're smarter than other people had better have some pretty impressive accomplishments to show for it, or I just sort of roll my eyes. Therefore, I'm pretty much average, although I have been able to do my own thing in a way that very few others would be willing to do.

[booyalab]

we should have an emoticon that conveys intellectual snob-ishness

[cjs55]

You could just replace every word in every one of my posts with that emoticon.

That would be easier than typing, so I'm all for it.

[Edmond Zedo]

we should have an emoticon that conveys intellectual snob-ishness
"stop digging up graves!" Is the - key right next to the b key on your 'board too?

[booyalab]

:rules: :spam: :whyi: :drool: :soap:
oh really? that's very interesting

[Ferrus]

I'm an intellectual snob; not ashamed to admit it either - it is a snobbery borne of talent, not random economic and social chance (which is all traditional snobbery was). I don't believe in equality of mind, indeed the many problems of our socities are directly related to the fact we have an economic and not an intellectual elite.

[songbird36]

Alright, be honest. We are thinkers, and like to intellectuallize. Who is prepared to admit they engage in intellectual snobbery, that they like to engage covertly or overtly in intellectual one-upmanship?

Admitting is the first step to healing. There is a 12 step program near you... ;)

It depends how you classify snobbery. It may well be simple truth to state that you know more about some topic than another person. Refusing to talk to people at large because you imagine they must be less intelligent than you is intellectual snobbery, but not wanting to spend time in the company of a person who has proven themselves an unworthy intellectual adversary, is not, IMO.

[lbloom]

Being born smart or talented is as random as being born poor or socially privileged. After all, you didn't exactly start pumping your mental muscles in the womb. You just happened.

[songbird36]

Being born smart or talented is as random as being born poor or socially privileged. After all, you didn't exactly start pumping your mental muscles in the womb. You just happened.

And this is relevant to what exactly?

[lbloom]

I'm an intellectual snob; not ashamed to admit it either - it is a snobbery borne of talent, not random economic and social chance (which is all traditional snobbery was). .

[Neppy]

I think the way I carry myself might suggest that I'm a bit of a snob. If I blatantly dislike somebody, then I'll act as snobbish as I please, just to establish how beneath me they really are. Before that though, they have to do something to make me dislike them. Usually I'm very friendly, no matter how stupid someone is. As long as they have no authority over me.

And I don't consider myself an intellectual anyway. :mellow:

[Snowflake]

I'm an intellectual snob; not ashamed to admit it either - it is a snobbery borne of talentYeah right.

That's like saying "I'm an asshole, because I was born that way," in reality, we all know how full of shit you are.

[Ferrus]

Yeah right.

That's like saying "I'm an asshole, because I was born that way," in reality, we all know how full of shit you are.
Do we?

[meshou]

Do we?If you've yet to impress with talent, I'd say we could guess.

[Ferrus]

If you've yet to impress with talent, I'd say we could guess.
It is hard to empirically prove one way or the other: what happened to the principle of giving the benefit of the doubt?

[meshou]

what happened to the principle of giving the benefit of the doubt?Does't apply to earned things. Style is hardly emperical.

[Architectonic]

we should have an emoticon that conveys pseudo-intellectual snob-ishness

Absolutely.

[wildcat]

I enjoy taking a position and getting involved in arguments, but I'm not fool enough to think that I will be right in the end...even if my position appears incredibly favorable.

On reflection, I probably am an intellectual snob. :lol:
Johnny:
Ach wie gut dass niemand weiss
dass ich Rumpelstilzchen heiss!

[Melody]

lolz i dun have 2show it cuz i know it muufuckas *guns blazing*

what that guy say yuppie oreo cool-aid muufucka *explosion behind*

[Dr. Haight]

*raises right hand*

Guilty as charged!

Now, ahhhhh... what's the penalty?

[Psy-goat]

I would never have considered myself an intellectual snob because I've never considered myself to be that talented. That hasn't prevented other people from interpreting my aloofness as snobbiness and within the last few years I've learnt that I don't have to bend over backwards to disprove them.

I am an elitist however, I believe that sharper minds should prevail and be prominent, even if it doesn't benefit my position. I expect a recognition of noblesse oblige on the part of the 'winners' in our society. In saying that yes, maybe I am an intellectual snob!

[Johnny]

Johnny:
Ach wie gut dass niemand weiss
dass ich Rumpelstilzchen heiss!

Hmm wildcat...better the devil you know than the devil you don't know?

[wildcat]

Hmm wildcat...better the devil you know than the devil you don't know?
Of this devil I saw only a glimpse of the hoof.

[Johnny]

Of this devil I saw only a glimpse of the hoof.

Truly I have never travelled so far either to see that place where foxes and hares say goodnight to one another.

[wildcat]

Truly I have never travelled so far either to see that place where foxes and hares say goodnight to one another.
You have not been to Moscow then.

[s0978]

I don't think of myself as a snob, but today I was told that when I get frustrated at tasks which I think should be easy, this is speaking to intellectual arrogance. Not sure I buy it, but it is interesting to chew on.

[Johnny]

You have not been to Moscow then.

True...but it is only my first day.

[wildcat]

True...but it is only my first day.
Jusupof shot Raspie, you cannot meet him any more. But I have heard rumors there is another Putin in charge now.

[Melody]

I don't think of myself as a snob, but today I was told that when I get frustrated at tasks which I think should be easy, this is speaking to intellectual arrogance. Not sure I buy it, but it is interesting to chew on.this is something i have noticed distinctly in my lil 6yr old bro [who is likely intp.] he gets very irritated at things which dont do what they should. dunno if it says anything about arrogance tho. i mean my lil bro prolly knows hes a lil different from his classmates but i dun think he thinks hes better than them

[skwayred]

Same here, I like being around with intelligent people. I get bored by people who get bored by intellectual conversations. But I am not an intellectual snob. I do get along with people who are not intelligent. I have no choice but to mingle. They predominate my world.

[s0978]

this is something i have noticed distinctly in my lil 6yr old bro [who is likely intp.] he gets very irritated at things which dont do what they should. dunno if it says anything about arrogance tho. i mean my lil bro prolly knows hes a lil different from his classmates but i dun think he thinks hes better than themYou're comparing me to a 6 yr old?!

Actually, I was talking about the tendency to grossly underestimate how long things will take, or the complexity of executing certain projects, or the lack of appropriate deference I may have for certain skillsets.

I am learning to calculate how long I think certain jobs will take and then multiply it by 4. Starting tasks earlier because I may run into unanticipated complications. Hiring others to do things better than I would in much less time (even if I feel like I should be able to do these things myself).

But I thought it was interesting that these are issues which may stem from something akin to "intellectual arrogance."

[C.J.Woolf]

I am learning to calculate how long I think certain jobs will take and then multiply it by 4. Starting tasks earlier because I may run into unanticipated complications.
Ever hear of the 90-90 principle? It goes like this: The first 90 percent of the job takes 90 percent of the time. The remaining 10 percent of the job takes 90 percent of the time.