Kwanzaa anyone?

[Kilby]

Does anybody here celebrate?
If so, please elaborate.
I like to know your thoughts and beliefs
or do you prefer presents bought and christmas wreaths
okay okay i know you can celebrate both
please speak the truth, no need to take an oath.

[joft]

"the plot thickens"

for some reason whenever I see people who speak in rhymes I think that line. this is awesome. ok, sorry, resume the thread

[Kilby]

thanks for the substantive reply. no, seriously though, i don't know what the racial make-up of this forum is so I may very well not get one true opinion, oh well, that's fine.

I'll just rap here to keep my thread going:

The plot thickens, like a novel of Dickens
the bird flu comes and the population sickens
blame it on the Wiccans
so merry christmas but not in the schools
keep it out of department stores and swimming pools
agnostic/atheist v. religion in the USA in a bout of repartee
it will come your way
gay marriage, a baby carriage, people don't know their heritage
where it is, what it means, live for themselves, don't wanna come clean.
remain anonymous, all words crafted to be synonymous,
liars speak the truth when the hero asphyxiates, can't communicate his ideas when his peers won't listen cause their loaded with beers to hide the fears, people open your ears.

[Rhu]

The holiday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwanzaa) is a secular one, which gains itself some points. It seems to be formulated to exclude me, though, which looses it some. I'd welcome any excuse for libation in December, or any other time of year.

Of course, the wikipedia article doesn't go into much detail on the the holiday and eventually gets sidetracked into popular culture's less than positive view of the occasion.

In the end, I'm left with little more than an understanding the lament of Kwanzaabot in Futurama, handing out the traditional book of the holiday:

[Kilby]

The holiday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwanzaa) is a secular one, which gains itself some points. It seems to be formulated to exclude me, though, which looses it some. I'd welcome any excuse for libation in December, or any other time of year.

Of course, the wikipedia article doesn't go into much detail on the the holiday and eventually gets sidetracked into popular culture's less than positive view of the occasion.

In the end, I'm left with little more than an understanding the lament of Kwanzaabot in Futurama, handing out the traditional book of the holiday:


Nice picture, it's funny, and yes the holiday involves no scripture.
I read the Wikipedia article as well, true, not much info, so it's hard to tell.
remember that libation, if not done in moderation, made lead to gratification with one not so deserving of admiration,
the next morning filled with consternation, you'll feel like leaving the country, taking a vacation, past the line of demarcation, what a sensation...

[INTrPosr]

I brought it up as a suggestion to my family decades ago, but no one wanted to give up the traditions. Kwaanza is rich in tradition and more economically prudent.

On another note, I applaud this group for asking the questions that society in general fear (regarding the Black community). As a Black person, I could be insensed by the subject, but you guys have kept the topics on an intellectual note. I proud of you.

[MacGuffin]

It is a fake and I refuse to recognize its existence.

[Helios]

It is a fake and I refuse to recognize its existence.



Sweet! I feel the same about X-mas!

[mgb]

Sweet! I feel the same about X-mas!

But Jesus was born then. Or around then. Or a few years later or something. But it was in a manger. And there were wise men. You can't just make this stuff up you know.

[PenguinHunter]

But Jesus was born then. Or around then. Or a few years later or something. But it was in a manger. And there were wise men. You can't just make this stuff up you know.

You forgot the stars.

And the robot ninja that comes back from the future to save his Mom, by the grace of God.

[eyebyte_atWork]

and this lizard came while I was in the desert and gave me water and comforted me... he saved me.

I do not celebrate anything really - well not anything traditional.

[Wiki]

Seriously I dont celebrate religious holidays because they are all compromises of the different faiths and therefore defiled.

The easter bunny is a clear example of this. How did this rabbit and eggs, symbols of fertility, end up hand in hand with Easter?

When the Roman catholics wanted to bring in the pagans (for money *ahem* I mean to save their souls) they accomodated them by saying you can have your Fertility God holiday celebration around the same day, we will just call it Easter, and put the emphasis on Christs resurection. And Christmas, instead of the SUN GOD, we'll celebrate the SON of GOD.

You think Im joking? Get your hands on a Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia.

I observe the last supper of Christ once a year with my wife at home, it is our only ritual. We open with prayer, we drink the wine, break the bread, wash each others feet, and close with prayer.

I have no problems with Birthdays, Thanksgiving, and New Years Eve. Some pagan holidays like 'harvest moon' also do not offend me.

Well happy holidays anyhow.