Just because math is interesting..

[MySavior]

ESFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - INTJ

ENFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - ISTJ
ENFP = INTP + (ESFP) - ISTP
ENFP = INTP + (ENFJ) - INTJ

discuss.

[Vagabond]

Hmmm. Explain this;

ESFJ + INFJ = INTp + ESFP

[Slider]

dammit, where is dr. kevorkian when you need him?

[nobarcode]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Keyser Soze".

[Sam172]

whoooa whoooa, i've heard that name before nobarcode...

that freaked me out

[MySavior]

Hmmm. Explain this;

ESFJ + INFJ = INTp + ESFPGoing too fast? Thats not an identity! Your dreams of them belonging together?

[nobarcode]

whoooa whoooa, i've heard that name before nobarcode...

that freaked me out
Don't ever say it OL. :D

[Vagabond]

Hmmm. Explain this;

ESFJ + INFJ = INTp + ESFPGoing too fast? Thats not an identity! Your dreams of them belonging together?
I didn't say what it is or isn't, I just said "explain"... :D

[MySavior]

Hmmm. Explain this;

ESFJ + INFJ = INTp + ESFPGoing too fast? Thats not an identity! Your dreams of them belonging together?
I didn't say what it is or isn't, I just said "explain"... :DOh.. it must have been all that feeling that fooled me. :devil:

[int]

discuss.

Don't tell me what to do!!

:)

Actually, I have no clue what you're getting at. :mellow:

[MySavior]

discuss.

Don't tell me what to do!!

:)

Actually, I have no clue what you're getting at. :mellow:I don't know, but there is something interesting there.. heh.

For example, the first one: ESFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - INTJ.

ESFP = INTP's perception + ESFJ friendliness - INTJ prickiness.

Its like, the I, T, and N are taken away from the INTP and the Judgemental attitude from the ESFJ, so all thats left is a friendly perceiver. :)

But I wonder, if we did some more math: ESFP + INTJ = INTP + (ESFJ). Its almost as though the union of the ESFP with its opposite would yeild a predictable change in both people; the INTJ becoming less judgmental and the ESFP learning to have strict values. They are still opposite :). Kicking the wind?

[last_caress]

discuss.

Don't tell me what to do!!

:)

Actually, I have no clue what you're getting at. :mellow:I don't know, but there is something interesting there.. heh.

For example, the first one: ESFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - INTJ.

ESFP = INTP's perception + ESFJ friendliness - INTJ prickiness.

Its like, the I, T, and N are taken away from the INTP and the Judgemental attitude from the ESFJ, so all thats left is a friendly perceiver. :)

But I wonder, if we did some more math: ESFP + INTJ = INTP + (ESFJ). Its almost as though the union of the ESFP with its opposite would yeild a predictable change in both people; the INTJ becoming less judgmental and the ESFP learning to have strict values. They are still opposite :). Kicking the wind?

Maybe I'm missing something, and pardon my honesty but this excursion seems entirely superfluous.
You could get rid of the 4 letter codes on one side of the equation and just leave some characteristics ie. ESFP = outgoing + friendly - pickiness, as an alternative to the usually verbose descriptions to make them more concise.
Because by including the 4 letter types in addition to the characteristics is like including another undefined variable ie. (those 4 letter codes imply a host of other characteristics which makes it ambiguous).
ESFP = Xoutgoing + Yfriendly - Zpickiness

But to me really it's like saying
((2x6)/3 - 3) + (9*9 - 78) = 4
instead of 2 + 2 = 4

Or maybe I'm just a prick. :nerd:

[Arioch]

Hmmm. Explain this;

ESFJ + INFJ = INTp + ESFP

Your INTp is actually MBTI's INTJ.

[Utopmk]

Math freaks me out. In one of my last years of 8th grade, I remember the teacher laying a pre-algebra test in front of me..."You should have this memorized by now." Which I would have, had the letters and numbers not been flying off the page and away from me.

Oh yeah, I don't think math was considered when creating type descriptions... I hope not atleast :ph34r:

[MySavior]

discuss.

Don't tell me what to do!!

:)

Actually, I have no clue what you're getting at. :mellow:I don't know, but there is something interesting there.. heh.

For example, the first one: ESFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - INTJ.

ESFP = INTP's perception + ESFJ friendliness - INTJ prickiness.

Its like, the I, T, and N are taken away from the INTP and the Judgemental attitude from the ESFJ, so all thats left is a friendly perceiver. :)

But I wonder, if we did some more math: ESFP + INTJ = INTP + (ESFJ). Its almost as though the union of the ESFP with its opposite would yeild a predictable change in both people; the INTJ becoming less judgmental and the ESFP learning to have strict values. They are still opposite :). Kicking the wind?

Maybe I'm missing something, and pardon my honesty but this excursion seems entirely superfluous.
You could get rid of the 4 letter codes on one side of the equation and just leave some characteristics ie. ESFP = outgoing + friendly - pickiness, as an alternative to the usually verbose descriptions to make them more concise.
Because by including the 4 letter types in addition to the characteristics is like including another undefined variable ie. (those 4 letter codes imply a host of other characteristics which makes it ambiguous).
ESFP = Xoutgoing + Yfriendly - Zpickiness

But to me really it's like saying
((2x6)/3 - 3) + (9*9 - 78) = 4
instead of 2 + 2 = 4

Or maybe I'm just a prick. :nerd:That was just an example. I put those words there just to show what I was thinking.. because in the INTP, the only letter that remains is P, for perception. Also, we could say that the letters in the MBTI type are additive (INTP = I + N + T + P), because its like:

INTP = uses iNtuition to react to what is Perceived, and then takes the perception and the reaction and feeds it to the Internal world where it is left for analysis using the Thought function.

ESFJ = uses Sensing to react to what is Judged, and then takes the judgement and the reaction and feeds it to the External world where it is left for analysis using the Feeling function.

huh? maybe? Yea, its superfluous; I'm just fooling around for the heck of it.

Well, anyway.. all thats left of the INTP is P, for perception, and whats left of ESFJ is ESF, which is unbelievable friendly. Combine the elements that have been taken away and you get the prick (I don't get along with INTJ's :))

I = 1, N = 2, T = 3, P = 4
E = 5, S = 6, F = 7, J = 8

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10 (INTP)
1 + 2 + 3 + 8 = 14 (INTJ)
1 + 2 + 7 + 4 = 14 (INFP)
1 + 2 + 7 + 8 = 18 (INFJ)
1 + 6 + 3 + 4 = 14 (ISTP)
1 + 6 + 3 + 8 = 18 (ISTJ)
1 + 6 + 7 + 4 = 18 (ISFP)
1 + 6 + 7 + 8 = 22 (ISFJ)
5 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 14 (ENTP)
5 + 2 + 3 + 8 = 18 (ENTJ)
5 + 2 + 7 + 4 = 18 (ENFP)
5 + 2 + 7 + 8 = 22 (ENFJ)
5 + 6 + 3 + 4 = 18 (ESTP)
5 + 6 + 3 + 8 = 22 (ESTJ)
5 + 6 + 7 + 4 = 22 (ESFP)
5 + 6 + 7 + 8 = 26(ESFJ)

10: INTP
14: INTJ, INFP, ISTP, ENTP
18: INFJ, ISTJ, ISFP, ENTJ, ENFP, ESTP
22: ISFJ, ENFJ, ESTJ, ESFP
26: ESFJ

Pair them down..

INTP + ESFJ
INTJ + ISFJ
INFP + ENFJ
ISTP + ESTJ
ENTP + ESFP
INFJ + ENTJ
ISTJ + ENFP
ISFP + ESTP

laugh..

and see if this is going somewhere.

[Claverhouse]

[ Looks in; sees a lot of math ]

=

[ And just like that, he was gone ].




Claverhouse :ph34r:

[last_caress]

discuss.

Don't tell me what to do!!

:)

Actually, I have no clue what you're getting at. :mellow:I don't know, but there is something interesting there.. heh.

For example, the first one: ESFP = INTP + (ESFJ) - INTJ.

ESFP = INTP's perception + ESFJ friendliness - INTJ prickiness.

Its like, the I, T, and N are taken away from the INTP and the Judgemental attitude from the ESFJ, so all thats left is a friendly perceiver. :)

But I wonder, if we did some more math: ESFP + INTJ = INTP + (ESFJ). Its almost as though the union of the ESFP with its opposite would yeild a predictable change in both people; the INTJ becoming less judgmental and the ESFP learning to have strict values. They are still opposite :). Kicking the wind?

Maybe I'm missing something, and pardon my honesty but this excursion seems entirely superfluous.
You could get rid of the 4 letter codes on one side of the equation and just leave some characteristics ie. ESFP = outgoing + friendly - pickiness, as an alternative to the usually verbose descriptions to make them more concise.
Because by including the 4 letter types in addition to the characteristics is like including another undefined variable ie. (those 4 letter codes imply a host of other characteristics which makes it ambiguous).
ESFP = Xoutgoing + Yfriendly - Zpickiness

But to me really it's like saying
((2x6)/3 - 3) + (9*9 - 78) = 4
instead of 2 + 2 = 4

Or maybe I'm just a prick. :nerd:That was just an example. I put those words there just to show what I was thinking.. because in the INTP, the only letter that remains is P, for perception. Also, we could say that the letters in the MBTI type are additive (INTP = I + N + T + P), because its like:

INTP = uses iNtuition to react to what is Perceived, and then takes the perception and the reaction and feeds it to the Internal world where it is left for analysis using the Thought function.

ESFJ = uses Sensing to react to what is Judged, and then takes the judgement and the reaction and feeds it to the External world where it is left for analysis using the Feeling function.

huh? maybe? Yea, its superfluous; I'm just fooling around for the heck of it.

Well, anyway.. all thats left of the INTP is P, for perception, and whats left of ESFJ is ESF, which is unbelievable friendly. Combine the elements that have been taken away and you get the prick (I don't get along with INTJ's :))


I'm not INTJ. ;P

Whats the logic behind the numbers assigned to the letters?
It seems kind of arbitrary.

[MySavior]

I'm not INTJ. ;P

Whats the logic behind the numbers assigned to the letters?
It seems kind of arbitrary.Arbitrary.