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Six
6 Oct 2004, 06:34 PM
when I watched "the truth about cats and dogs" the other day I had the feeling that "Abby" was somewhat INTPish...

or...what about "Lucy" in "two weeks notice"?

hm... I probably have to think about this some more... so I can come up with anybody outside of the romantic-comedy-genre... :D

Arioch
6 Oct 2004, 07:56 PM
The female character in Lost translation.

The directer of said film is a INTP in real life and also played the Dons daughter I believe in one of the Godfather movies.

Six
6 Oct 2004, 08:08 PM
Well, I guess I couldn't assist with the genre thing. On the other hand, I doubt there are any, say, action-movies with decent personality portrayals. :)

hm... what about "Ripley" in Aliens...?
;)

Slider
7 Oct 2004, 04:31 AM
or...what about "Lucy" in "two weeks notice"?


ENTJ

KentOhio
11 Oct 2004, 10:35 PM
Ever see "Only the Lonely?" It's a John Candy movie. The female character he starred opposite of seemed INTP-ish.

booyalab
11 Oct 2004, 10:38 PM
I bet the character Thora Birch plays in Ghost World is an INTP.

cajun
23 Jan 2005, 02:40 AM
Not a movie, but I think Seven of Nine from Star Trek: Voyager qualifies.

Oh, and she was totally hot. Not that that has anything to do with INTP. ;-)

Edmond Zedo
23 Jan 2005, 03:07 AM
hm... what about "Ripley" in Aliens...?
;)
Maybe...She reminds me of booyalab, now that you mention it. And me, of course.

"Well I can drive that loader."

Aliens? Beautiful film...'Mazin.

Crispy
23 Jan 2005, 04:17 AM
Well amelie from the film amelie automaticilly springs to mind ,But I think she may be a bit more feeling perceivng than thinking perceiving. She is defianly presented as being very introverted and anyalctal in the film though, like the way she always makes little observations about things and is somewhat of a loner.

Edmond Zedo
23 Jan 2005, 04:44 AM
Well amelie from the film amelie automaticilly springs to mind ,But I think she may be a bit more feeling perceivng than thinking perceiving. She is defianly presented as being very introverted and anyalctal in the film though, like the way she always makes little observations about things and is somewhat of a loner.
She's hardcore NF. Not sure right now on spec. type...INFP/INFJ?

Hyperion
23 Jan 2005, 07:12 AM
hm... what about "Ripley" in Aliens...?
;)

I think Ripley is ISFJ. Let me explain

I: she is not concerned with her external appearance and is not very sociable
S: she is very handy with various weapons and tools; and has good motor reflex
F: she is emotionally expressive, comfortable in expressing affection and anger. She made her most important decision not by logical analysis but by her emotional attachment to Newt.
J: she is confrontational and decisive

The cyborg Bishop is the most INTP-ish character I can think of on ALIENS. Contrast his behavior to Ripley's. An INTP would probably leave Newt and just nuke the infested colony from outer space. It is the logical thing to do. After all what is the realistic probability of pulling off what Ripley was able to accomplish? Virtually nil.

Edmond Zedo
23 Jan 2005, 07:30 AM
I think Ripley is ISFJ. Let me explain

I: she is not concerned with her external appearance and is not very sociable
S: she is very handy with various weapons and tools; and has good motor reflex
F: she is emotionally expressive, comfortable in expressing affection and anger. She made her most important decision not by logical analysis but by her emotional attachment to Newt.
J: she is confrontational and decisive

The cyborg Bishop is the most INTP-ish character I can think of on ALIENS. Contrast his behavior to Ripley's. An INTP would probably leave Newt and just nuke the infested colony from outer space. It is the logical thing to do. After all what is the realistic probability of pulling off what Ripley was able to accomplish? Virtually nil.

I completely disagree with you all over the place, but I'm having trouble picking points. Maybe because we have no common ground.

S/N: Many Ns are good with tools etc. I am, I'm also an artist who works with physical media.
T/F: Ever cared about anyone? Ever heard of a woman who was motherly? Right.
P/J: So am I.

ISFJ: An ISFJ wouldn't have survived Alien.
Bishop: Where is the contrast? Certainly no more than the world of difference between all the INTPs here. But Bishop acts more like an INFP.

CoHo
23 Jan 2005, 08:47 AM
...she is not concerned with her external appearance...

Man you hit the nail on the head with that one.

I always thought the scariest part of Alien was when Ripley was prancing around in her underwear

MasterMerk
23 Jan 2005, 11:00 AM
I completely disagree with you all over the place, but I'm having trouble picking points. Maybe because we have no common ground.

S/N: Many Ns are good with tools etc. I am, I'm also an artist who works with physical media.
T/F: Ever cared about anyone? Ever heard of a woman who was motherly? Right.
P/J: So am I.

ISFJ: An ISFJ wouldn't have survived Alien.
Bishop: Where is the contrast? Certainly no more than the world of difference between all the INTPs here. But Bishop acts more like an INFP.

ENTJ is my bet. She's one tough Woman.

purple13
23 Jan 2005, 06:09 PM
The female character in Lost translation.

The directer of said film is a INTP in real life and also played the Dons daughter I believe in one of the Godfather movies.

Wasn't that Scarlett Johanson?

purple13
23 Jan 2005, 06:12 PM
Ever see "Only the Lonely?" It's a John Candy movie. The female character he starred opposite of seemed INTP-ish.

I believe that was Ally Sheety.

Edmond Zedo
23 Jan 2005, 06:23 PM
Man you hit the nail on the head with that one.

I always thought the scariest part of Alien was when Ripley was prancing around in her underwear
Oh man, that was so hot. Zedo likes that kind of body.

Witticism
23 Jan 2005, 06:34 PM
Wasn't that Scarlett Johanson?

Yeah, but the character she played was called Charlotte, who I think was definitely an INTP. Everyone called her "mean".

Six
23 Jan 2005, 07:16 PM
Everyone called her "mean".is that an indicator? :blink:

Crispy
25 Jan 2005, 12:14 PM
What about wednesday addams from the addams family?

waxwing
25 Jan 2005, 05:36 PM
I'm thinking of a lot of possible ENFP females right now, sometimes playing opposite seemingly INTP males.

Garden State (Natalie Portman's character)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Kate Winslet's character)
Before Sunrise (and Before Sunset) (Julie Delpy's character)
Sweet November (Charlize Theron's character, although Keanu Reeves' character is not even close to INTP).
Dopamine (Sarah and Rand....Rand seems clearly INTP, and Sarah something NF).

I know the question wasn't about INTP males, but as I was thinking through some movies, most of the women struck me as NFs.

Hmmm.


Oh, what about The Dreamlife of Angels? Possibly Elodie Bouchez's character?

Swift
25 Jan 2005, 05:57 PM
Sandra Bullock in the first part of "Love Potion n°9".

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=movie&pid=1707885&cart=226741673

"When Paul, a lonely biochemist, and Diane, a socially inept comparative psychobiologist, come across a gypsy's mysterious potion, they're skeptical. But when chimps respond favorably, the scientists have no choice but to test it on themselves, with hilarious and charming results."

prometheusdestroyed
26 Jan 2005, 12:48 PM
I always thought the scariest part of Alien was when Ripley was prancing around in her underwear

The only thing scary about that is how much I want her.

What about the wife in "American Splendor". Not exactly a Hollywood style movie, but a movie none the less.

waxwing
26 Jan 2005, 11:38 PM
The only thing scary about that is how much I want her.

What about the wife in "American Splendor". Not exactly a Hollywood style movie, but a movie none the less.


Good movie. Hmm. Could be. I should watch that one again.

FishOutOfWater
10 Feb 2005, 11:57 PM
I think Amelie from "Amelie" is an INTP. Yes, she is a romantic, but she approaches love and life from an analytical perspective. Could you imagine an INFP doing some of the hilariously mischevous but mean and sneaky things she does to people? Not me - the INFPs I know would be more likely to try to change the person's nature -or to confront them in fumes of moral injustice.

Other female characters I'd consider INTPs:

Harriet from "Harriet the Spy" - a young budding INTP with an investigative mind. The sneaking around and the secret journals - so INTP-like! A great book and an average movie.

Michelle from the "American Pie" series - The absolute dorky but loveable geek who cleans up well INTP stereotype, and she's hilarious. See also: Alyson Hannigan's Willow from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," the TV series.

Lily from "The Princess Diaries" series - The snarky and sarcastic, intellectual but sweet Lily is a great foil as Princess Mia's best friend. (Mia is probably an ENFJ)

Ms. Norbury from "Mean Girls" - Tina Fey, a real life INTP, plays a great one here as the wisely intelligent but emotionally imperfect older INTP. She helps Cady, probably an ENTP, embrace her geeky NT self at the end.

Clara McMillen from "Kinsey"- Kinsey's wife is every bit the shy, dorky scientist her husband is at first. Clever, detached, and still motherly, she seems to be a big schemer in Kinsey's detached scientific sex experiments. (Kinsey is an INTP as well - at least he's portrayed as such in the movie)

Luna Lovegood from "Harry Potter"- okay, I realize the fifth book (Luna's first appearance) isn't out in the theaters yet, but I can't resist mentioning this character. Completely trippy, out to lunch, and no comprehension of social norms, but she always seems to solve problems anyway.

This is a short list, sadly. If I think of any more women from movies who might be INTPs, I'll post again.

songbird36
11 Feb 2005, 01:07 AM
I'm voting for Hermione Granger as an INTJ

And Erin Brockovich as a possible INTP

songbird36
11 Feb 2005, 01:08 AM
The wife in American Splendor is reserved and nutty enough to be an INTP, definitely

booyalab
11 Feb 2005, 01:28 AM
And Erin Brockovich as a possible INTP
I think ISTP

songbird36
11 Feb 2005, 01:37 AM
on what basis an ISTP?

booyalab
11 Feb 2005, 01:54 AM
on what basis an ISTP?
I think she's got the ISTP attitude, artisan style, concrete language but spontaneous like a P, and the first 2 paragraphs of the typelogic ISTP profile seem to really fit what I remember of that character.



Like their fellow SPs, ISTPs are fundamentally Performers (note the capital 'P' :-)), but as Ts their areas of interest tend to be mechanical rather than artistic like those of ISFPs, and unlike most ESPs they do not present an impression of constant activity. On the contrary, they lie dormant, saving their energy until a project or an adventure worthy of their time comes along--and then they launch themselves at it. The apparently frenzied state that inevitably ensues is actually much more controlled than it appears--ISTPs always seem to know what they're doing when it comes to physical or mechanical obstacles--but the whole chain of events presents a confusing and paradoxical picture to an outsider.
ISTPs are equally difficult to understand in their need for personal space, which in turn has an impact on their relationships with others. They need to be able to "spread out"--both physically and psychologically--which generally implies encroaching to some degree on others, especially if they decide that something of someone else's is going to become their next project. (They are generally quite comfortable, however, with being treated the same way they treat others--at least in this respect.) But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode). These territorial considerations are usually critical in relationships with ISTPs; communication also tends to be a key issue, since they generally express themselves non-verbally. When they do actually verbalize, ISTPs are masters of the one-liner, often showing flashes of humor in the most tense situations; this can result in their being seen as thick-skinned or tasteless.

FishOutOfWater
11 Feb 2005, 05:12 AM
I agree that Hermione is an INTJ, for starters.

I'd place Erin Brokovich as an ESTP, based on the movie and her speech at my college last semester. There's no way that woman is an introvert; I would place her as being quite extraverted. She's incredibly assertive, loud, schmoozy, and talkative with large crowds of strangers in a way even the most outgoing introvert wouldn't be. She likes to have attention drawn on her (in ways such as her dress) that an introvert usually wouldn't like. I'd also say a sensor because she stuck me as intelligent in a concrete, analytical fashion that goes along with the ST style. She also is a classic free spirit and rebel, and like many STPs, she had difficulty doing well in school because school is not well suited for SP types in general, since they live in the here and now and tend not to see the point of the school-based environment.

songbird36
11 Feb 2005, 08:03 AM
OK I'm happily overruled on Erin.

I guess I don't know the other types as well as others here.

songbird36
11 Feb 2005, 08:07 AM
What about Thelma and Louise then?

Could Thelma be an INTP? I reckon she's a J of some description - maybe ENTJ..

booyalab
11 Feb 2005, 09:02 PM
I agree that Hermione is an INTJ, for starters.

I'd place Erin Brokovich as an ESTP, based on the movie and her speech at my college last semester. There's no way that woman is an introvert; I would place her as being quite extraverted. She's incredibly assertive, loud, schmoozy, and talkative with large crowds of strangers in a way even the most outgoing introvert wouldn't be. She likes to have attention drawn on her (in ways such as her dress) that an introvert usually wouldn't like. I'd also say a sensor because she stuck me as intelligent in a concrete, analytical fashion that goes along with the ST style. She also is a classic free spirit and rebel, and like many STPs, she had difficulty doing well in school because school is not well suited for SP types in general, since they live in the here and now and tend not to see the point of the school-based environment.

That's probably so.

Boneca
11 Feb 2005, 09:58 PM
I agree that Hermione is an INTJ, for starters.Why? Just because she's smart?
I think she is way too talkative and outgoing to be an I, and isn't she also a bit too idealistic and caring to be a T? (House elf liberation, huh!?)
I think she seems more like ENFJ, heavy on the J.

Witticism
11 Feb 2005, 10:10 PM
I'd have to agree with Boneca; Hermione is definitely an F - she's quite emotional when the time comes (remember when she flung accusations at Lupin in PoA?)

I think Lupin is an INTP.

songbird36
12 Feb 2005, 03:47 AM
What about Jennifer Aniston's character in "the Good Girl" (and for that matter her neurotic, nutty young boyfriend as well)?

nancy_downs
20 Mar 2011, 08:26 AM
Anyone think alice of alice in the wonderland is an intp

she is so smart. She always dreams about some weird dreams and have a imaginary mind. Her father said that who have those crazy thought were genius. And she is one. She talk so strange and make people think that she is not normal. Her boyfriend told she not to think and say somethink so unbelieveable like that and please focus on what people care about but she was not.

Alice is one of my favorite characters. She impress of a lot. She is so courage and smart.

YHWH
20 Mar 2011, 04:32 PM
and doesn't afraid of anything?

Robb
20 Mar 2011, 08:32 PM
English isn't your first language, is it?

nancy_downs
25 Jun 2011, 04:41 PM
@Robb: ^^ Please correct me . That post has lots of mistakes, doesn't it?

Btw, did u get me?

YHWH
25 Jun 2011, 04:57 PM
Alice is INFP, the caterpillar is INTP.

I_Live_In_A_Van
28 Jun 2011, 07:56 AM
Yeah, Lost in Translation was directed by Sophia Coppola. Definitely shows signs of being INTP/J.

-hates being in front of camera

-loves deep intuitive communication free of traditional restraint

-strives for meaning and logic rather than emotion, although emotion to the INTP is expressed best as the frustration at not finding meaningful connection

kali
28 Jun 2011, 10:31 AM
I bet the character Thora Birch plays in Ghost World is an INTP.

imo so is rebecca doppelmeyer

skip
28 Jun 2011, 11:43 AM
Amelie = INFP, no question there.

Luna = I'm leaning towards INTP. Luna is a little more insightful and circumspect about others than I'd expect from an INTP girl her age. There's a wonderful description online somewhere by Rowling of when she first met Evanna Lynch. Rowling said she knew immediately that Lynch was Luna. Not that she would play Luna, that she was Luna.

7of9 = likely INTJ (P? Seven? Really?) but that character always annoyed the heck out of me and I've tried to forget her (Brannon Braga and his freakin' hormones... always ruining otherwise good scifi... That's no reflection on Ryan, however; she was good on SVU a couple of years ago. I wish she'd do more stuff that I actually watch).

kali
28 Jun 2011, 12:04 PM
Was Susanna Kaysen in Girl, Interrupted INTP...?

teleforce
28 Jun 2011, 12:10 PM
this is gonna be a crazy one, but i've thought of zooey deschanel's character in 500 days of summer as sorta INTP-like.

dawn weiner from welcome to the dollhouse is another possible one, lol.

pauline from heavenly creatures, maybe, but i've thought INFP before.

MacGuffin
28 Jun 2011, 04:53 PM
this is gonna be a crazy one, but i've thought of zooey deschanel's character in 500 days of summer as sorta INTP-like.

A bit, but mostly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

Oh, they even listed her in the article!

Also:


Arrested Development lampoons the MPDG archetype in the third season. Michael Bluth falls in love with a girl played by Charlize Theron who exhibits several of the tendencies of MPDG. She is child-like and whimsical. However, it is revealed after several episodes that she has these tendencies not because she is care free, but because she is mentally retarded.

lol

kali
28 Jun 2011, 05:01 PM
Manic pixie dream girls are usually INFPs or ENFPs that assuage the melancholy of an INTP male


also

<-------- Jane Lane!

greenblob
28 Jun 2011, 05:10 PM
I think Luna is too friendly to be INTP. I'd go with INFP. And Hermione is so SJ.

teleforce
29 Jun 2011, 12:41 AM
A bit, but mostly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

Oh, they even listed her in the article!
ugh, i know about that, which is why i don't like citing her as an example of anything and call it "crazy". that's basically her whole shtick (and how men wanna see her, imo).


<-------- Jane Lane!
hm. i've thought ENTP.

btw typing fictional characters is totally lol.