Greetings

[heeroyuy]

Hello,

Known I was an INTP for quite awhile from several tests I have taken and I've had to take for jobs etc, but never really looked into it until one of my friends became obsessed, and then I found this site.

Reading through this forum a bit I found an interesting assortment of strangely funny and serious posts, so it sounded fun

....so here I am :)

a bit about me:
I'm 16, systems administrator part time for a few companies, obsessed with computers, electronics, philosophy, and anything else I can manage to get my hands on.

That is all.

[Six]

Welcome :hello:

[jimkopelli]

Your interests will definitely fit here... and hi.

[Universal]

Welcome to hell!

[heeroyuy]

I've been there since I was 8, I live in Nebraska ;)

[Avengardh]

Dude, awsome nickname, GW rocks.

And welcome ^^

~*Aven*~

[MacGuffin]

Welcome to hell!

:rofl:


Ummm, yes, welcome!

[heeroyuy]

Thanks Aven :D

Yes, I have an endless waltz DVD, when I saw a post by you a while ago it was like "Wai...oh!" heh

[file cabinet]

what sort of stuff do you do with computers/electronics?

[heeroyuy]

With electronics I am more or less just getting started into the more complex things, so I'm not very competent yet.

With computers I started out doing web programming and did that when I was younger, got into c/c++ and system programming, got bored with that. Right now I'm working doing system administration of Unix/Linux as well as Windows machines, and have a part time job doing web programming for the school district here.

I'm a FreeBSD freak, so I run a few servers off of my commercial broadband, which is mostly paid for by donations from users :)

http://travisbsd.org

I'm kind of getting tired of just systems stuff, so I've recently been doing more and more with switching infastructures, telephone systems, and lower level computer/electronic stuff.

Yup....

[file cabinet]

* jealousy rises *
web programming is a snooze. I picked up a used book about assembly(the book is almost 20 years old).. it's not about the x86 but some IBM thing(it was $4 and it's rare to see used computer books for sale since there is usually a very miniscule market for them and the majority of used book stores to do not buy computer books)... anyway, I've gone through about a third of it and have finally learned how to do binary/hex but I have no application for any of it yet.. the main reason I purchased it was so I could become a little more familiar with the asm syntax although I know it varies depending on the processor or.. yeah.. I want to see if I can get an IBM which the book applies to and try some of it out but my web addiction sometimes limits my freedom..

[heeroyuy]

I hear ya man. I learned x86ish asm and then picked up a book on embedded c/c++/asm. I suggest that if you really wanna learn low level hardware asm, pick up an 8088 board (a close relative of the 8086 architecture upon which x86 is based on) and have some fun controlling it. I used to know a company that sold them for like...$120, but they're pretty fun if you just have spare time and want to mess around with something flashy and electronicy :)

What languages do you do web programming in, and also what IBM does it apply do, I'm a bit of a collector of old equipment, and might have something heh (providing it isn't from mainframe era).

Also; yea, as long as you learned the number systems x86 asm isn't too hard to convert to. The other big beast to learn is the different memory models. 16 bit flat, 16 bit segmented, 32 bit protected...ugh...luckily we only deal with 32 bit nowadays (and soon to be 64 bit).

[Boozer]

Greetings, I'm a programmer as well though I admit to enjoying higher level languages like Java and C++, Assembler is just too much memory juggling for me (lazy bastard that I am). Still gotta get around to learning perl and php. It's funny how many intp are computer geeks and scientists.

[file cabinet]

> What languages do you do web programming in
PHP / MySQL / JavaScript(DOM 1 / 2)
Working with the DOM functions for JavaScript is kind of like low level HTML.

> what IBM does it apply to
The book is about IBM PC/XT/AT with an 8088/80286 chip ... I already posted on a local mailing list asking for one.. but they suggested an emulator which of course makes scores of sense.
I was referred to http://www.freedos.org/ for my needs.. but I feel like I will get lost since I all I want to do is try out the examples in the book.. argh.

what do you mean by number systems?

[heeroyuy]

By number systems I mean binary/hex. Alot of people find them akward, but if you can convert them in your head you're doing alright. That and memory models and just about every asm is the same other than some operations syntax. Hell, they vary by assembler of choice as well heh (I'm a netwide guy myself).

Yea; I used to like Java....then I kinda just...got sick of it :) I think my biggest thing is it doesn't really make sense to me to have the application itself be an object and more or less instantiate itself....just kind of bugs me I guess.

C++ is fun :) I must admit I'm a perl hack though, heh. It's the only language that I can say looks the same before and after rsa encryption (ruthlessly stolen from someone, if it was you tell me and I'll give you credit heh).

Yup...

[file cabinet]

why would you give credit to the person who originally stated it? It was Keith Bostic...
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=keith+bostic+%2B+perl+%2B+rsa
;)
so if I wanted to start doing assembly, where you would suggest I start?..as far as tutorial and examples.. and I would probably do this on some shitty linux box I have at home

[Dunearhp]

If you are interested in assembly then perhaps you should try using Forth. It takes you close to the hardware and shows you how the computer does data manipulation, especially using the stack. It is not an assembly language though, it just works at a similar level of abstraction.

When I first learnt assembly it was for one of the small motorola chips, and primarily as a learning exercise. I would find it hard to justify to myself using assembler for anything other than practice.

You can bit twiddle in C, and it is sort of portable. But if you want to work in embedded systems, assembler is a good skill that aids understanding. I'd prefer RISC to x86 however.

[s]

Howdy. :hello:

[franzgold]

Ah, welcome to another BSD geek. I like your beastie avatar.

Oh, and uh, hi to everyone else too. I don't really do introductions. :blush: