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PsiKik
10 Feb 2006, 08:20 AM
I found this interesting because it fits into my view that we
are not created equal in the current system e.g. those who are more
J will be able to operate and be more succesful in a capitalist/free market/ruthless society than someone primarily P.
Also, the present so called 'democratic' system is really a farce.
The idea that we are represented by those we elect is complete BS.

Unfortunately the alternatives are just as bad or worse.

Bold text by me, not the original author.



Government without Representation: A Call to Action

By Charles Sullivan

02/09/06 "ICH (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/)" -- -- There are events in human history that galvanize a people into action. Such events are so profoundly wrong and troubling that they can no longer be ignored by the great majority of the citizenry. Instinct tells us that we are nearing a crossroads in the history of our nation, when we must decide upon a course of action. In this momentous decision there can be no neutrality. It is understood that there can be no reconciliation with corrupt power and authority. Either we stay the course and witness the systematic destruction of not only our own nation, but perhaps the entire world; or we refuse our allegiance to this system of inequity called capitalism and operate upon a new premise, or paradigm.

Upwards of eighty percent of the people recognize that they have essentially no representation in government. They appreciate the political process for the sham it is and many of them refuse to participate in it. In the process they allow a small minority to elect people to office, some of them as servants to the people, others not.

Let us proceed upon the assumption that all persons are created equal. Therefore, all people should be treated accordingly, regardless of their income, property holdings, race, sex or creed. Assuming that a great majority accept this credo, we must then recognize that the current system does not operate upon this principle. It favors those with wealth over people without wealth. It offers privileges and advantages to a small percentage of the citizenry that it does not accord to the great majority. Thus it is a paradigm that is inherently unjust and unequal. At this point we must ask ourselves: Do we believe in such a system? If we do not, then we must ask: Does an unjust system deserve and warrant our support?

Let it be understood that any system based upon a paradigm of inequity, and therefore injustice, cannot be reformed. Capitalism is an economic and social system based upon private wealth, not the commonwealth. It is inherently unstable and unsustainable .because it is based upon the idea of private greed and waste. The result is that power and wealth is concentrated into the hands of the few by exploiting the many, and by destroying the earth. It is the philosophical basis for trickle down economics that gives plenty to those at the top, much less to those immediately below the top, and virtually nothing to those at the bottom. Those at the top stand upon the shoulders of everyone below the top, which is an enormous burden for them to bear. This is also the psychological underpinning of plutocratic rule.

No matter how good the intentions of the thousands or millions of first-rate people operating in good faith within that system, it is inherently unfair and unjust. It cannot produce equity or justice because it was not designed to operate in this way. Expecting a different result than the kind we always get is like asking an oak tree to produce oranges. However we might wish it possible, it is not going to happen. Oaks can only produce acorns—the seeds of their own kind.

Tremendous amounts of energy and capital are spent waiting for our oaks to produce oranges, as the inequity gap continues to widen and the system spins wildly out of control. Meanwhile, the infection deepens and spreads violence and imperialism throughout the world, setting a chain of events in motion that has the potential to destroy us all. Under capitalism the rich are parasites that prey upon the labor of the poor; they continually bleed them dry and treat them as mere servants. War rages wherever there is social and economic injustice with its staggering cost in capital, misery, environmental degradation and appalling loss of life. In very simplistic terms, this is nothing more than the output of the input. Injustice can never create justice; inequity will never produce equity. If we believe in getting a better result, we must find a better paradigm such as Democratic Socialism.

So we come to the realization that the political process does not, and cannot work for us—the great majority of the citizens. It plays us against one another and distracts us from recognizing the root causes of injustice that is the source of our misery. Thus we come to realize that we do not live in a democracy, as we are so recklessly told; we live in a Plutocracy—a system in which those with wealth rule those without wealth. That is the kind of government we have. Let us have it no more. If the form of government we have offers little benefit to us, or does us great and irreparable harm, why should we support it? Plutocratic government does not and cannot liberate us—it enslaves us.

Nearly ninety percent of us have no more freedom from endless toil and sacrifice than the slave on the plantation. Under the enormous and oppressive weight of capitalism, we are nothing more than the property of our employers, who can and do terminate us at will without just cause or provocation. The system that created slavery is incapable of emancipating its slaves. The genius of the wage slave system is that the great majority of its subjects do not realize that they are in fact slaves to fraudulent corporate and plutocratic power.

We must also recognize that no political party, regardless how well intentioned it is, represents us by operating within the existing framework of capitalism, or wage slavery. The only representation we have is ourselves. Our power cannot come from the system that produces our misery and suffering; it can only come from without. We the people are our own power; but only if we act. It was this realization that gave organized labor and the civil rights movements their impetus for social justice. True grass roots movements understand that their power lies in direct action, not in waiting for corrupt leaders to give us what is already ours under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We must assert our rights, here and now, and without compromise. Nothing is given without a demand. We cannot cure one part of a diseased body—we must cure the whole organism in order to give it health.

The neocon cabal that is in power will not voluntarily step down. They must be forcefully removed from power by demonstrations and acts of civil disobedience on a massive scale. Let me stress that these demonstrations and marches are to be non-violet. Violence begets violence. These must not be sporadic events—they must be frequent, widespread and economically disruptive. As workers, our greatest weapon has always been to withhold our labor through the general strike, as well as our refusal to consume beyond the most basic necessities.

We have but a brief window of opportunity to organize and to mobilize against our oppressors, before dissent is criminalized and punishable by imprisonment. Beyond the Rubicon dissenters will be imprisoned and every channel of free and open communication will be commandeered and subverted to the service of empire. This is already happening on a large scale. Unless we appreciate the approaching danger and act to defend our human rights and our dignity, we will quickly reach the point of no return. We stand now at the brink of the Rubicon wondering how to proceed.

As we put our bodies on the line we will suffer many defeats and indignities. These events must be so widespread that even the commercial media cannot afford to ignore them. There will be beatings and attacks upon us. Our oppressors must be exposed and revealed for who and what they are. The world will be our witness. So great will be the force of worldwide opposition to this brutal conduct, that its perpetrators will be forced to relinquish their hold on power. This is the only way to bring the system down and give power to the people.

At this point a brief clarification is in order: Giving power is a misnomer. Power is never given; it is taken, or asserted. Let us take that which is rightfully ours and use it for the public good. We cannot afford to wait for our acorns to evolve into oranges. The window of opportunity is rapidly closing. It may not be available to us tomorrow.

Regimes such as the Bush cabal have always plagued America They are a recurring cancer that pervades every cell of society. They recur because we are treating symptoms, not underlying causes. A few decades ago it was Nixon and his henchmen. The cancer replicates itself through the capitalistic system of inherent inequity. The time has come to treat the disease, to rid ourselves of its scourge for all eternity, rather than treating the symptoms manifested in the present moment of crises. Otherwise, history is doomed to repeat itself in endless replicating cycles of want and waste and human misery. A long road to industrial and personal emancipation awaits our eager footsteps. Let the journey begin.


Original article to be found at
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11853.htm

Architectonic
10 Feb 2006, 08:31 AM
What blatant propaganda - winging, but no realistic solutions.

I'm guessing you never read any of my posts on politics (and reorganisation of the system with both devolution and a global alliance to deal with global issues) over the last few months?

To clarify, the organisation/distribution of political power comes first and ideology comes second in terms of importance. If the people in power are idiots, it doesn't matter what ideology they have. Devolution of government allows for more variations across locales and more social and economic accountability when putting ideologies into practise.

But we could also start a new topic, on variants and different aspects of democracy, such as representational vs direct. Or perhaps banning of political parties in certain Parliaments. Compulsory vs voluntary voting, preferential voting etc.


Edit - too many typos, because I'm pretty tired...

PsiKik
10 Feb 2006, 08:46 AM
What blatant propaganda - winging, but no realistic solutions.

I agree, no solutions offered, just the problems pointed out. This is what bothers me - all political systems so far developed have flaws. Democracy leads to authoritarianism and dictatorships while monarchies eventually host tyrants.

My main interests in the article were.

- People become so disenchanted with the system that they don't vote thus letting the wolves in by the back door.

Perhaps because the average voter has not the ability nor desire to spend time investigating the issues.
I would like to see a field of study called the 'Psychology of Politics' - college courses are called 'Political Science'.

- The current system has mutated into a plutocracy, those with money or the ability to make money (SJs?) have an increased chance of being succesful.



I'm guessing you never read any of my posts on politics (and reorganisation of the system with both devolution and a global alliance to deal with global issues) over the last few months?


You guess correctly, though the reason is that I had lost interest in politics for a while - was concentrating on programming ideas.
I am now reinterested in politics and will now read your posts seeing as you seem to have something to say on the matter.



But we could also start a new topic, on variants and different aspects of democracy, such as representational vs direct. Or perhaps banning of political parties in certain parliments. Compulsory vs voluntary voting, preferential voting etc.

This is a good point - there is not just one kind of 'democracy' as most people seem to assume.

In...TP
10 Feb 2006, 08:52 AM
Its not the plan, its the execution of the plan.

Hypnos
10 Feb 2006, 09:33 AM
Its not the plan, its the execution of the plan.
Many plans are begging to fail. Democracy and more authoritarian concepts like communism reward parasitism.

wildcat
10 Feb 2006, 12:08 PM
Of course Sullivan is correct in essence. No one in his right mind would deny this. Eisenhower saw the danger. You cannot compare the administrations of Nixon and Bush. Nixon did not start the Vietnam war. He ended it. Johnson started a social program. Nixon did not end it. Reagan did.
Goodbye Columbus.

Xander
10 Feb 2006, 01:52 PM
Surely the main downfall of any of these theories is the idea of treating the populace as an intelligent mass who care about their neighbours and can be trusted to make responsible decisions. The natural competetive nature of a human being and their desire to get one over on the next man would seem to doom any system to unequal treatment.

Pooja
10 Feb 2006, 03:21 PM
I think that our system relies on the notion, that if every individual were to act in order to improve their own personal welfare, then the utilitarian welfare of society would automatically improve simultaneously. Obviously this is BS...many people lack the intelligence to know what's in their best interest. And the ones that ARE intelligent are to busy taking advantage of the people in the previous sentence.

geniusndisguise
10 Feb 2006, 03:37 PM
I think that our system relies on the notion, that if every individual were to act in order to improve their own personal welfare, then the utilitarian welfare of society would automatically improve simultaneously. Obviously this is BS...many people lack the intelligence to know what's in their best interest. And the ones that ARE intelligent are to busy taking advantage of the people in the previous sentence.

Not only that, but many people are short sighted. They may see something as in their best interests but not the future ramifications that are not in their best interests. And the intelligent ones are gifted in hiding the real issues in order to take advantage.

Still, I don't see how democratic socialism is a step up in any way. Just a re-shuffling of the same crap.

Xander
10 Feb 2006, 03:41 PM
Not only that, but many people are short sighted. They may see something as in their best interests but not the future ramifications that are not in their best interests. And the intelligent ones are gifted in hiding the real issues in order to take advantage.

Still, I don't see how democratic socialism is a step up in any way. Just a re-shuffling of the same crap.
Can't remember who it was who said this but it meant alot to me...
How is it sensible to say that one thousand people are more intelligent than one?
It is sensible to say that one person is more intelligent than a thousand but which one.
(Well thats a rough approximation of the lines.)

geniusndisguise
10 Feb 2006, 03:58 PM
Can't remember who it was who said this but it meant alot to me...
How is it sensible to say that one thousand people are more intelligent than one?
It is sensible to say that one person is more intelligent than a thousand but which one.
(Well thats a rough approximation of the lines.)

And that about sums up the problem with any organized political system at all. Not that I advocate anarchy either.

Xander
10 Feb 2006, 04:06 PM
And that about sums up the problem with any organized political system at all. Not that I advocate anarchy either.
We need a new political ideal.

Procrastinationism.

Perfection is possible!!!

Pooja
10 Feb 2006, 04:28 PM
We need a new political ideal.

Procrastinationism.

Perfection is possible!!!

That's been mine for years... But I can't imagine SJ's going for it.

Xander
10 Feb 2006, 04:36 PM
That's been mine for years... But I can't imagine SJ's going for it.
We'll think about that later.....

geniusndisguise
10 Feb 2006, 04:44 PM
. . . if we must.

Lee
10 Feb 2006, 04:45 PM
That article actually made me laugh out loud.

geniusndisguise
10 Feb 2006, 04:57 PM
That article actually made me laugh out loud.

You're more calm than I. It actually made me angry. But then I got over it.

Lee
10 Feb 2006, 05:15 PM
You're more calm than I. It actually made me angry. But then I got over it.The article is like a parody, it's all irrational rhetoric, I almost expected it to finish with a wink, as if to say "only joking."

geniusndisguise
10 Feb 2006, 05:18 PM
The article is like a parody, it's all irrational rhetoric, I almost expected it to finish with a wink, as if to say "only joking."

Now that would have been a good finish!

Biff_Loman
10 Feb 2006, 08:21 PM
I've got to find some people to exploit.

Hypnos
10 Feb 2006, 10:44 PM
I think that our system relies on the notion, that if every individual were to act in order to improve their own personal welfare, then the utilitarian welfare of society would automatically improve simultaneously. Obviously this is BS...many people lack the intelligence to know what's in their best interest. And the ones that ARE intelligent are to busy taking advantage of the people in the previous sentence.
a) This attitude is very arrogant. It might be true, but liberty demands that individuals make their own mistakes. You, as the (allegedly) more intelligent consumer, will always have a market.

b) Collectivization leads to free-loading, and then decreased efficiency. History has demonstrated that people have little communal feeling and restraint on their own behavior when presented with an opportunity to take advantage of nameless, faceless people they don't know -- even if they are only a few degrees of separation away. You can decry this as "short-sighted" and malicious, but I think it's perfectly right to care more about those close to you.