ahh!! fuck fuck

[file cabinet]

I did...
chown -R asdfware.asdfware /*
Instead of ...
chown -R asdfware.asdfware ./*
just totally fubar'd permissions on the new server box we got at work :cry: :banghead:
response from a support ticket already came back:

You'd save yourself alot of work by reinstalling. That's a pretty nasty mistake I'm sorry to say.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

in the future I will be sure to do:
chown -R asdfware.asdfware *

:rant: :cry: :cry: :cry: :banghead:

please post your fuckups so I can feel better

to describe how I am feeling.. it feels like I just jumped out of an airplane.

[Melody]

hahahaha i laff at u

i onetime did something such that a girl i liked was physically hurt ;_; i feel so bad

not ahahahaha

cuz we was kids

[spirilis]

Yeah, that's pretty dumb. A slash has no business in a chown -R on files in the current directory (if anything, a "chown -R ." will suffice)
Lesson learned... :-D

(Trust me, this isn't as bad as one of our support specialists who wrote a cleanup script that flipped out and did a find / -exec rm -f \{\} \; if the directory it attempted to clean-up did not exist... we frequently pick on him for that)

[Melody]

thank god i dont use linux

that horrible linux

[file cabinet]

if anything, a "chown -R ." will suffice

I was logged in as root though.. unless I am confused by what you mean..

[int]

Why not restore from a few hours ago/yesterday? Limited backups, I suppose. Tsk tsk.

<shakes head/>

:)

[file cabinet]

we didn't have the backups running yet. my boss finds this humorous.. I will as well at some point.

[int]

It is funny. Don't worry about it.

I make those kinds of mistakes all the time. One site I work on is in Movable Type with <div> tags all over the place (CSS). I've saved and rebuilt the website a thousand times, but still manage to screw up (remove) those divs almost daily. The site will be all screwed up (left nav boxes in weird places, main body in bottom nav, etc) for a few minutes, if not hours, until I can track down what I did while I was zoning out.

This is why I hate mundane work that allows me to tune out while I'm doing it.

[Dunearhp]

I once set up a box to dial up and run fetchmail periodically, but didn't check that it had a maximum dialup retry limit set (never assume). The dialup password got reset from elsewhere. When the box tried to login, it failed and just kept retrying. I caught it after a weekend of dialling every 20 seconds. Does wonders for the phone bill. :rolleyes:

[spirilis]

if anything, a "chown -R ." will suffice

I was logged in as root though.. unless I am confused by what you mean..
If you're trying to recursively chown files in the current directory, instead of using ./*, you can just use .

e.g.

chown -R asdfware.asdfware .

[Melody]

u culd also use windows instead of linux

that horrible linux

wait windows cost more

nvm

[file cabinet]

I am detecting sarcasm..

cheaper to run linux+apache.. and the popularity of apache does not appear to be declining..
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

and..


Microsoft's excellent understanding of statistics, can be clearly seen in their claim that Windows NT Server 4.0 Provides better Price/Performance than Linux. For web servers even up to - we've seen the `up to' before - 623%. In this section I take a look at how Microsoft calculated the file server price/performance statistics. Microsoft calculates the price/performance ration by dividing the costs of the server hardware and software by its peak Megabyte per second throughput. If the hardware costs $10000, the server $1000, and you have a throughput of 200MB per second, the price/performance ratio is $55: it costs you $55 per MB. Microsoft makes the following claims:

1. According to Mindcraft, Microsoft costs $93 per Mbs.
2. According to PC Week, Microsoft costs $114 per Mbs.
3. The costs for Linux are about $182.

When people learn that NT Server has a better price/performance ration as a free OS, people react really surprised. How can something expensive have a better price/performance than a free OS? Learn how you do this when we entangle these figures.

As discussed above, Microsoft has paid Mindcraft to do a NT versus Linux benchmark. This benchmark was very favorable for NT. Later on PC Week was not able to verify the enormous differences Mindcraft found.

Anyway, what should one do to compete against a free OS? To get a higher price/performance ratio, you have to make the costs of the software insignificant to the costs of hardware. Microsoft does this by:

1. Choosing really expensive servers. Do you spend $20,851 on a file server? Or the even more ridiculous $35868 server?
2. Only counting the most basic costs of its Operating System. Add email to a Linux server. Costs you nothing. Add Microsoft Exchange Server to an NT Server and you got a monster, oops, I meant something expensive.

PC week commented that they got Linux most favorable results on a single processor server with 256MB of RAM. If we assume a $5000 file server (probably some 27GB disk, 256MB, and a Pentium II 400MHz or better), we get a $47 price/performance ratio for NT and $46 for Linux. Assuming the new NT NTFS tuning parameters of course, so NT outperforms Linux on file serving. How realisticly these NTSF tuning parametesr are, is still under debate.
src: http://www.berenddeboer.net/ntlinux.html

I've seen advertisements continuing the propaganda, it's really quite sad.

[Melody]

i wasnt being sarcastic
i was following my train of thought

=b

i was trying to provoke the linux/open-source pundits

aka
'freaks'
'those with nothing better to do than expect everyone to be a techie'

with 'that horrible linux'

[file cabinet]

i wasnt being sarcastic
i was following my train of thought

oh.. ok, lol, I wasn't really sure.. it's just hard to detect sarcasm on the internet.. yar. :cheers:

[file cabinet]

if anything, a "chown -R ." will suffice

I was logged in as root though.. unless I am confused by what you mean..
If you're trying to recursively chown files in the current directory, instead of using ./*, you can just use .

e.g.

chown -R asdfware.asdfware .

I just tried this. .'s permission needs to be asdf.nobody
the nobody is the apache usergroup..



drwxr-x--- 8 spp nobody 4096 Oct 10 21:55 ./
drwx--x--x 6 spp spp 4096 Oct 10 21:53 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 spp spp 614 Oct 10 14:56 404.shtml
drwxr-sr-x 2 spp spp 4096 Jun 25 19:29 admin/

[cloakable]

i wasnt being sarcastic
i was following my train of thought

=b

i was trying to provoke the linux/open-source pundits

aka
'freaks'
'those with nothing better to do than expect everyone to be a techie'

with 'that horrible linux'

Aha, but 'that horrible linux' is both easier to install and run than 'that horrible bug ridden monster Windows' oh, and more stable too.

And don't get me started on the activation code on XP :rant:

[file cabinet]

And don't get me started on the activation code on XP :rant:

you don't need activation code with Windows XP Pro.iso
keekle.

[cloakable]

And don't get me started on the activation code on XP :rant:

you don't need activation code with Windows XP Pro.iso
keekle.

You don't need an activation code for Linux iso's either, and they have the added bonus of being legal.

[jimkopelli]

Is keekle the new word or something? It seems to be in a lot of fc's new posts...

[file cabinet]

Is keekle the new word or something? It seems to be in a lot of fc's new posts...

actually the new word is jar!
jarokay? jarha jarha jarha jarrofl
jarnuary jarmping jarsleepy jarintp

[jimkopelli]

Someone's been chasing the oven cleaner again... but I like keekle. I think I'll try to get it started here.

[file cabinet]

Someone's been chasing the oven cleaner again... but I like keekle. I think I'll try to get it started here.

I prefer keekle-zed actually.. I am not sure why. I am not canadian.

[jimkopelli]

Where is it from? Some show, or personal experience, or what?

[file cabinet]

keekle is from another board I post on...
apparently, it is also a terrace
http://www.impacthousing.org.uk/keekle.htm

Keekle Terrace

6 x 2 bedroomed terrace properties situated on the main road just outside Cleator Moor.

All double glazed and centrally heated.

[Melody]

Aha, but 'that horrible linux' is both easier to install and run than 'that horrible bug ridden monster Windows' oh, and more stable too.

I dunno...man...

I accept that linux is more stable.

but windows xp has never crashed on me

it prolly would as a server

but im a home user

farthest i go is programming

and

no linux I've ever installed was easier to install than any windows I've ever installed, except knoppix

actually, i havnt installed any linux lately

i guess you might be insinuating how linux does not have to be rebooted repeatedly

also...lol...linux has a bit to go in terms of desktopping

that whole 'user friendly' thing that the proggers fuggetabout

if they handle the transition to the desktop smootherly than microsoft
i will be impressed

its just that i think certain crap is bound to happen to any operating system once you have to create stuff which a common person is allowed to touch

i hear ppl bragging about the stability, but i look at linux and think, 'this better be stable'

[int]

*removed*

I couldn't find the humour I was trying to lay out. Must've been bored. <shrugs/>

[cloakable]

Aha, but 'that horrible linux' is both easier to install and run than 'that horrible bug ridden monster Windows' oh, and more stable too.

I dunno...man...

I accept that linux is more stable.

but windows xp has never crashed on me

it prolly would as a server

but im a home user

farthest i go is programming

and

no linux I've ever installed was easier to install than any windows I've ever installed, except knoppix

actually, i havnt installed any linux lately

i guess you might be insinuating how linux does not have to be rebooted repeatedly

also...lol...linux has a bit to go in terms of desktopping

that whole 'user friendly' thing that the proggers fuggetabout

if they handle the transition to the desktop smootherly than microsoft
i will be impressed

its just that i think certain crap is bound to happen to any operating system once you have to create stuff which a common person is allowed to touch

i hear ppl bragging about the stability, but i look at linux and think, 'this better be stable'

Actually, the KDE (the desktop enviroment that I use) loads automaticaly once SuSE has finished booting. It has a graphical login that can even be configured to look like XP (as can the desktop). And Linux is user friendly if you stay out of the root login.

[Melody]

i dunno...man... im going to have to disagree to an incredible degree

the desktop boots up right away
i know that is doable, but
that doesnt help if the desktop sucks
i.e. just cuz it has a desktop does not mean
it is a match for windows or Mac OS X

linux is to user friendly what
diet pepsi is to healthy
i speak this taking into consideration kde/gnome

it is getting there but...eh...will be a bit...


expressing an above statement more clearly:

Windows has a sense of being robust. Linux has a sense of being utilitarian. Some will say something like, "Windows is big and fat, Linux is simple and fast."

The problem comes when a human who has never used a computer, and absolutely does not give a shit what "RAM" or "command prompt" or "driver" signifies, starts using one. This person will desire the computer be as easy to use as possible. To reach this goal, the systems the computer is composed of, particularly those whith which the person will interface to it with, have to be robust.

If they are utilitarian, it will be like talking to an INTP. The person will only get what they ask for. If they are robust, then it will give more, and many of those things will be appreciated by the person, even though they were not specifically asked for.

Some one who uses Windows takes many of those "unrequested gifts" for granted. A Linux fanatic on the other hand will consider most of it "useless crap."

I speak of things such as being able to cut and paste freely between a massive array of various programs with no problems, consistent window behaviour, etc. Things of this nature require more programming than a simple utilitarian thingie. Once Linux gets more and more desktopish, I feel they will have no choice but to create something that is "bloated," because there is no way around it.

[Groty]

please post your fuckups so I can feel better

to describe how I am feeling.. it feels like I just jumped out of an airplane.

Okay, I just had an all day fuck up...

My Cold Fusion app server resides in Wisconsin, at one of our call centers. The server admin is supposed to periodically reboot it on weekends. He apparently hasn't been. The damned thing was hangin pretty bad this morning.

So.... we bounced it.

And the Cold Fusion service wouldn't start again.

Or Again...

Or Again...

Well, after Googling error codes and log data all day, I finally found an interesting little tech note.

"If reserved words are used as data source names in Macromedia ColdFusion MX, you will have problems after restarting ColdFusion and will not be able to display any ColdFusion templates.

Do not use the following reserved words as data source names when creating data sources in the ColdFusion Administrator:

service
comp

The ColdFusion MX Application Server service will not be able to successfully restart if either of these reserved words is used as a data source name."

Well... we worked on a project for our SERVICE group 4-5 months ago. So we named the datasource SERVICE.

I learned 2 things today. Our Server Admin is a lazy, lying bastard (hasn't bounced the box in months), and Service is a reserved word. Who'd a thunk it?

It's not like I named it Delete or something.