US educational system/Prussian mind control

[carmel123]

http://www.feltd.com/domo3.html

I read somewhere that the US system of education was developed from Prussia in the late 1800's, and after a little websurfing, I found that article detailing it. I ts very interesting, to say the least...

[KuJo]

public education has always tended to be anit-reactionary, in any state.

[sbw]

from the article:

"an important part of this new system was to break the link between reading and the young child, because a child who reads too well becomes knowledgable and independent from the system of instruction and is capable of finding out anything. In order to have an efficient policy-making class and a sub-class beneath it, you've got to remove the power of most people to make anything out of available information."

seems like young americans are doing the state's work for them.

Scott

edit: its possible that the biases of the author need to be considered...but it doesnt seem particularly outlandish, and I've long considered the possibity that there is a reason why most people dislike reading.

[Claverhouse]

Um, dumbing people down doesn't count as mind-control. And the fact that Prussia, and after '70 the Reich, had the most advanced education system in the world and had brilliant professors who shattered old ideas and shaped much of the the modern world, and alongside France produced the best technology in most fields, counts rather against the idea that they wanted a dumb nation.

Further the Prussians, like other then semi-Calvinist states, began compulsory education back in 1707 or thereabouts; partly in order to produce an intelligent population.


They also replaced the alphabet system of teaching with the teaching of sounds. Hooked on phonics? Children could read without understanding what they were reading, or all the implications.

Can't see what's wrong with that, nor why one should lead to the other.


This project also meant that one-room schoolhouses had to go, for it fostered independence. They were eventually wiped out.

Or perhaps dame-schools were inefficient.


In 1776, for example, about 85% of the citizens were reasonably educated and had independent livelihoods - they didn't need to work for anyone.

I sincerely doubt that. And what does 'reasonably educated' mean ? They were still whipping people in the stocks, just like everywhere else, and ducking scolds.


The bottom line is that we had a literate country in the United States before the importation of the German educational system, designed to "dumb down" the mass population. It was more literate that it is today. The textbooks of the time make so much allusion to history, philosophy, mathematics, science and politics that they are hard to follow today because of the way people are "taught to think."

I've got an American history book of the 1850's. It says CHarles III of Britain [ Bonnie Prince Charlie to non-jacobites ] was the son of James II.


Curiously, William Wirt was committed to an insane asylum around 1930, after going around making public speeches about his part in a large conspiracy to bring about a controlled state in the hands of certain people. He died two years later.

Maybe... he was insane ?


No one knew that the Communist revolutions were funded from the United States. The buildup of the Soviet Union, as well as that of Nazi Germany, would also be funded later from the United States in order to get a reactionary public to bend to the will of controlling political factions. It was a plan that worked well in the 1920's, and worked well again in the 1950's in the psychological creation of the "cold war", providing funding for the buildup of the military, industrial and pharmaceutical complex. The "non-thinking" American public never suspected a thing. Such a thing would have been "unbelievable."

Um... Well... You see... Oh, never mind.


Claverhouse :ph34r:


...and I've long considered the possibity that there is a reason why most people dislike reading.

Yup: they're stupid.

[sbw]

Yup: they're stupid.

ok, fine, I've considered multiple possibilities.

Scott